A Catholic Dilemma: Can They Root for Rudy?

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  • Posted By: LUISGLAWYER @ 11/20/2007 2:22:01 PM

    I think here why instead of abortion we dont teach our children love instead of lust?
    Why is so absurd to ask fathers and mothers to teach more conciouness to the girl and to the boy so they dont star sex at 10 years old ?Oh and when i tell sex I am not telling introduction
    But since the schools in the us teachs sex education each time earlier ...
    Do the parents REALLY believes that the children do not tries at least part of the things that are learned and improves the other part?
    Today in this country people have to to take care with what they think and say.
    Have to be politcally correct.
    Do not be morally correct.
    Do not be ethically correct but politically correct yes.
    You can defend murder but not an education to restrain sex to when you are REALLY PREPARED TO ASSUME its consequences.
    SEX IS FOR ADULTS.
    Always was.
    Who are adulds is a matter of culture.
    May be an 25 y o or a 16 or a 14y o.
    Depends in the age and place.
    Greece indians galacians etc.
    What they all had in commom is that adulthood had in commom....The ability to do things for themselves to sustent themselves.
    A girl with 14 16 can sustent her and a possible baby?then go ahead.
    Besides is their only choice?Without the say of the father? Then why should he pay allimony?
    Was not HER decision and her decision alone to have or not no have?
    NO
    she receives because its not her say.
    Its not for her
    its for the developmente and education of another liofe another personality.
    You cant have both ways.
    If you are PROCHOICE you HAVE also to defende NO ALIMmONY and also many other alterations in the legislations that gives womem unfair benefits detrimental of MEN
    Either way I stand by what I ALWAYS HAVE SAID .
    LIFE CANT BE CREATED BY ME.I CANT GET IT BACK.

    • Posted By: LUISGLAWYER @ 11/20/2007 2:57:38 PM

      So if I can not give i CAN OPT TO TAKE IT FROM OTHER ONE.
      The simple is being complicated simply because today in america the politically correct formula does not permity you to correct fisically your breed doesnt permit you to have with you in your enterprise people that you confide.Makes the place to work not a pleasure place (and should be since work in what you like is a must and makes enjoyable) but a place where you should watch your steps your words and your eyes as well one word out of place and you can be sued and not only you but the company.What makes the company takes measures preventing it.
      Today the word of women worths more than men .
      The word of black more than white.
      Etc...
      In certain places you have days that commemorate the day of the afroamerican (not black because black is not a color but is perceived as an insult but white isn't why?)
      However I AM NOT AWARE that in any place you have a day that commemorate the day of the white.
      There is the day of the gay. but there isnt of the strait.
      WSo BEING NORMAL NOW A DAYS IS what is strange....
      From being normal to being a strait male or female now its strange to not have at least one experience homosexual.
      And if you say the word black or if you say a gentle word to a woman in the company premisses or if you give a look or any other contact cluwe to your male conterpart that induces him to perceive that is being molested sexually even thoug what you want is just a healthy not forced interaction.
      Oh and when the woman desires and her contact is not received well... then the man is in trouble because she can reverse the situaion and will be almost impossible to prove othersie.
      What we need is someone that have the guts to reverse the situation completely in every field but this is not a work for a single term.

  • Posted By: theodore j @ 11/20/2007 12:16:16 PM

    You are absolutely right...I do live in a glass house and I'm willing to be held accountable when my deeds don't follow my words. I've made mistakes and I will continue to, unfortunately, do so. The difference is that I don't claim sins as rights and I certainly don't hold evil out as virtue. Simply said, God's way is what matters and abortion is murder....always has been and always will be. You may hide behind words in this world but you will never be able to say you didn't know when asked in the next.

  • Posted By: theodore j @ 11/20/2007 12:08:49 PM

    Are you paying for yourself.....or is somebody else? Who decides if you should continue to live? Fact is people will pay for themselves just like they always have. Why don't we also kill all prisoners if that's your sole criteria....they certainly don't pay for themselves and they actually committed a criminal act. they are not innocent like the unborn.

  • Posted By: jfrost52 @ 11/20/2007 11:47:31 AM

    you wanna pay for em

  • Posted By: theodore j @ 11/20/2007 11:29:15 AM

    The thought that being a religeous zealot hinges on my profound belief that abortion is murder stands as a sad commentary on how far we've come in allowing anyone to do anything. I believe that Jesus Christ is who he said he was....the son of the living God. As a Roman Catholic I find that the church, while not perfect, is a sound moral authority and I take her admonitions seriously. Pro-life Democrats held their collective noses when their party became pro-abortion and voted for flawed candidates who had "the majority of other issues right." Today (2002 statistics) we murder over 42,000,000 babies every year in this world with over 1,000,000 killed in the United States. If we Pro-life voters of the Republican party do likewise, we will find that in the future we will never have a pro-life candidate or platform again. I will choose to not vote rather than help a pro-murder candidate with an R beat a pro-murder candidate with a D. It is God's path that we follow no matter the outcome. I vote with God.

  • Posted By: Takeapause @ 11/20/2007 11:29:08 AM

    Killing someone based solely on their request to die is neither legally nor morally acceptable. How can one or two persons conspire to kill another - without the victim's consent - and rely on the fact that the victim has no ability to defend himself or herself and claim legal or moral justification?

  • Posted By: CobtheCrazed @ 11/20/2007 10:34:57 AM

    As a faithful Catholic, I am disturbed that abortion has never erred on the side of caution and studied what I consider to be an evil practice. On the political front though I know that Hillary would be the biggest mistake in general, much less to my ahtred of abortion. I like Rudy and appreciate most of his political positions. because he doesn't have the same thought process as me on abortion, will that make me not vote for him?? Abosolutely not. The stupidity of some zealots out there who say they will never vote for Rudy merely means they are basically casting a vote for Hillary or some other Democrat by not voting. (Or by voting for a person with no chance to win.) We all know the lesser of 2 evils story. Is Rudy perfect? No. Is he perfect for what this country needs right now? I believe so, and I think the majority of other Catholics in this country would agree.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 11/20/2007 5:26:55 AM

    None of these candidates will overturn Roe vs. Wade. So what difference does it make. Hopefully abortion and religion are not the deciding factors for this Presidential election. These should be factors in the parties nomination process but not on the national stage/ remember gay marriage was the deciding factor in OHIO in 04. Although it is a polarizing issue states should handle it. To win the Republican nomination you have to secretely reveal that you will lay the foundation for the reversal of Roe vs. Wade. Solutions: Roe vs Wade is so polarizing that it has sparked terrorism in this country, so Has the gay issue. A President must be clear. That gays whether you support them or not have penetrated every race, creed, and gender on this planet. They are Republicans, democrats, congressmen,FBI, CIA, Military, teachers, professors ect.. Therefore, unlike the civil rights movement this issue affect all races. A CANDIDATE SHOULD RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE BY STATING "As President I must do what is in the best interest of America, although my personal view is that gay marriage is a very uncomfortable subject, it is a very devisive issue. The church should not be forced to preform gay marriages. However, a gay church might perform their own marriage. Inotherwords, all Americans have the right to freedom and privacy. If gay people want to woship amongst themselves they have that right. Gays are Americans too and as President we must find solutions for all. Although one might not agree with another person lifestyle, it no reason to promote hatred and violence

  • Posted By: JScheid @ 11/20/2007 2:59:54 AM

    Rudy is not a Angel but then again neither are your Roman Catholic Priest. Some of your own Cardinals ( Keeler ) covered up what some of your Pedophile Priest ( Father John G. Allen of Harrisburg ) did by moving them instead of punishing them or defrocked them. what if it was your young son that the Priest sexually Abused?? Sorry, But your religion needs to make some major changes. Google Father John Allen of Harrisburg and look at the results. I do believe in God and Worship God but that is just wrong!!

  • Posted By: Whistlen @ 11/20/2007 2:50:53 AM

    Abortion is genocide. It is a weapon used mainly against poor minorities. Margeret Sanger, Hitler and other racists like them wanted to use birth control and other forms of euthenasia to wipe out all racial and ethnic minorities. Abortion is racism. Keep having babies! Don't let the majority wipe your peoples out!

  • Posted By: Whistlen @ 11/20/2007 2:50:12 AM

    Abortion is genocide. It is a weapon used mainly against poor minorities. Margeret Sanger, Hitler and other racists like them wanted to use birth control and other forms of euthenasia to wipe out all racial and ethnic minorities. Abortion is racism. Keep having babies! Don't let the majority wipe your peoples out!

  • Posted By: Whistlen @ 11/20/2007 2:49:35 AM

    Abortion is genocide. It is a weapon used mainly against poor minorities. Margeret Sanger, Hitler and other racists like them wanted to use birth control and other forms of euthenasia to wipe out all racial and ethnic minorities. Abortion is racism. Keep having babies! Don't let the majority wipe your peoples out!

  • Posted By: JScheid @ 11/20/2007 2:45:40 AM

    Rudy is not a Angel but then again neither are your Roman Catholic Priest. Some of your own Cardinals ( Keeler ) covered up what some of your Pedophile Priest ( Father John G. Allen of Harrisburg ) did by moving them instead of punishing them or defrocked them. what if it was your young son that the Priest sexually Abused?? Sorry, But your religion needs to make some major changes. Google Father John Allen of Harrisburg and look at the results. I do believe in God and Worship God but that is just wrong!!

  • Posted By: JScheid @ 11/20/2007 2:34:14 AM

    Rudy is no Angel, But your Roman Catholic Priest are no Angels neither. Pedophiles and everything else.

  • Posted By: uke1979 @ 11/20/2007 1:29:12 AM

    The Bible does not say that a baby has no soul until it takes its first breath. It says that the first man, Adam "became a living soul" when God breathed into him the breath of life. There are other passages that show how God regards the child in the womb. John the Baptist leaped in the womb at the sound of Mary's voice. God spoke of knowing Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb. And surely you've read the prescription for criminal punishment, "life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." I suggest you go back and read it again, and take note of the verse before which shows these punishments are prescribed with regard to a child in its mother's womb. (Exodus 21:22-25)

  • Posted By: ZIONISTSDID911 @ 11/20/2007 1:23:16 AM

    SEE LOOSE CHANGE AND TERRORSTORM BOTH FREE ON YOU TUBE TO KNOW WHO OUR REAL ENEMY FROM 911 IS. WAS NEVER A GANG FROM A CAVE. THE WORLD KNOWS KRISTOL WHAT YOU AND ZOMBIE SHARON GANG HAVE DONE.

  • Posted By: ZIONISTSDID911 @ 11/20/2007 1:20:05 AM

    GOULIANI THE PHONEY HERO AND ZIONIST STOOGE WHO ONLY SAVED HIMSELF
    TO MAKE MILLIONS ON HIS FAME
    AT THE COST OF 3000 OF OUR HONORED DEAD FROM 911.

  • Posted By: ZIONISTSDID911 @ 11/20/2007 1:17:44 AM

    RUDYS A PHONEY HERO WHO ONLY SAVED HIMSELF
    TO MAKE MILS. ON HIS FAME AT THE COST
    OF 3000 LIVES ON 911.

  • Posted By: The Skittles Kid @ 11/19/2007 11:08:33 PM

    I find this whole article appalling. Not because of Rudy, but because of the "Big Brothers" (a reference to George Orwell's novel 1984, check it out), um I mean the Catholic officials. First of all, I thought we had seperation of church and state. What about the first ammendment? You know, freedom of speech, religion, and the press. This also includes freedom FROM religion. In other words, Americans are guaranteed by the First Ammendment that they cannot be forced by the government to have to live by religious values that they do not agree with. Let's face it folks, abortion is a religious issue, not a political one. If you don't believe me, look who's trying to outlaw it, the Religious Wrong, um I mean Right. It is a mysogynistic agenda. These Pro-Lifers just cannot stand to have women in this country, or any other country for that matter, be able to enjoy their sexuality without having to go through unwanted pregnancy after unwanted pregnancy as punishment.

  • Posted By: Elizabeth43 @ 11/17/2007 11:11:42 PM

    Why doesn't anyone talk about Chris Dodd, the pro-life democrat, who has all the bells and whistles to be a great president, but not much money?

    • Posted By: droopydrawers @ 11/18/2007 3:22:10 AM

      Citizen, be a friend first to those who are in such a hellish state of mind. Crxiifying a mentally sick person takes dialog. If you're such a great person, than you will be able to convience your sister or brother. Other than that, we must let the maker have a part in the circumstance.

      • Posted By: bonas50 @ 11/19/2007 6:05:30 PM

        Elizabeth 43.... Probably because Cris Dodd is as big a phony as Rudy.... He is also divorced and his second marriage is to a Mormon. He has made the ridiculous statement that he is not bringing up his children by this marriage, Catholic as commanded by the Church, because he is waiting for them to become old enough to make up their own minds. He also states he is a Catholic. He is no more Catholic than Rudy is. He is as excommunicated as Rudy is, so I wish he as well as Rudy would stop saying they are Catholic.....

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