A Catholic Dilemma: Can They Root for Rudy?

I am Catholic, and this is the way I look at it. I won't vote for someone who is willing to deny someone all of her rights just so someone else doesn???t have to have the "inconvenience" of allowing her to live. That???s what abortion does. It takes away all of the aborted person???s rights, including the right to live.

Giuliani's staff should get off the 9/11 strategy and begin emphasizing his 8 yeats as a district attorney in NY where he indicted and put in jail numerous members of organized crime. He gained valuable experience working in the Reagan administration in Washington. He reduced crime in NY and brought Broadway back to what it is today. I'm not happy with his stance on abortion but I can't abide his acceptance of gay marriage. The staff should emphasize his book, LEADERSHIP.

As an Atheist woman, with a firm belief that women should be in charge of their own bodies, I cringe at the idea that Rudy Gulliani should be in any position to tell me what to do in any sphere of my life. He is an opportunistic, fast talking, history re-inventing archetypal politician and lawyer. He brings to mind the ad featuring Tricky Dicky - would you buy a used car from this man? My answer is a resounding 'NO'!

He is married 3 times and for that alone he could not get Communion. His views are the least of what he is guilty of. And like Bush we are getting tired of 9/11 and terrorism being the majority of their campaigning, what about the economy, the illegal immigrants getting more than the US citizens, about big business taking advantage of its workers, of being taxed to death to pay for the corruption in state/city and federal government. And why are you people worried about abortion being the only impportant moral thing, Washington is as sinful as Hollywood.

How many time does this have to be answere. We Traditionalist Catholics have no problem. No one of us will vote for Giuliani, period. There is no squeeze play, and we will not be intimidated by saying, well if you don't vote for him, you will get Clinton. Well guess what, most will not vote at all.... Go ahead, jump out of your seats, and scream how silly we are..... Let me tell you, Rudi is no Catholic and I wish he would stop calling himself one. He is excommunicated . Any Catholic who expouses Abortion is excommunicated. Anyone who Marries his second cousin as Rudi did without a dispensation, as advised by a priest friend, who was later de-frocked because of pedophilia, and then uses this ploy to get out of the marriage and remarries is excommunicated. Now Rudy , did this little act 3 times, and married a divorcee and between them they have 6 kids. Do you still think he's Catholic ? Just now, a few Bishops are getting around to standing up for the Faith . Well most of us have already done so, and have called Rudi for just what he is, an exdommunicated Catholic. And if all this wasn't enough, how about his political career ? How about all the myths surrounding his great running cry. 9-11 ? Well for starters most of the rescue workers and responders are up to their ears with his lies...... When he answers accusations that the city failed to adequately to protect their health in the wreckage, he boasted that he faced comparable risks himself. In one appearance he declared that he had been in the ruins " as often as if not more " than the cleanup workers who logged hundreds of hours in the smoldering mess. And also said that his long hours put him susceptible to every health consequence that people have sufferd.... Well how much tim edid he spend at Ground Zero? As best as can be revised after the events from Sept.17 to Dec 16 , 2001, Shows he was there for a total of 29 hours in those 3 months. Often for short periods or to visit locations adjacent to the rubble. In that same period , many rescue and recovery workers put in daily 12 hour shifts......... Many workers logged in 30 hours in the first 2 days after the attacks, and most averaged 400 hours at ground Zero and in the debris pile at the Staten Island landfill. all these details seem most important to Giuliani as he seeks to win the candidacy. It has become the pillar of his case to become President, and he has been reminding we voters ad nauseum in his debates and speeches. About those 29 hours.... They involved 41 appearances, mostly to give tours to other officials and dignataries . And many entries involving his accounting of his service to ground Zero, include meetings away from the site before the tour, as in the instance where his has logged that on Nov 15 , 2001 when he was reported to have took Vladimir Putin on a tour for 30 minutes that actually lasted 13 minutes.
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It's interesting that Wiccan Woman doesn't support Hilary because she was cheated on and stayed with her husband.I've made fun of her myself over that due to her comments on 60 minutes about not being some little woman who would stay home and bake cookies and stand by her man before Bill was elected.
However, Rudy cheated on his first two wives and broke up his children's home. His first wife was also his cousin, I guess that relly shows his "family values."

Bishops should be more concerned with pedophile priests than people who exercise their right of free speech. Though we have no specific law against the rack, the Inquisition is over,
The hypocrites who head the Catholic Church (a church composed of mostly good people) don't understand that they cant legistlate their morality on Amerca. .They cant or don't try hard enough to legistlate their morality on their own priests.
Recently a Chicago bishop or cardinal ignored repeated warnings about a pedophile priest He was previously convicted but continued his dirty work wrecking children's lives,
Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) urged Catholic officials to force him to move into monitored secure treatment setting. The Group also urged parents whose kids attend Jesuit schools to be vigilant
At a sidewalk news conference in August, clergy sex abuse victims harshly criticized and prodded Catholic officials to put the convicted abusive priest in a remote, secure facility
SNAP also urgesd current and former staff and students at Chicago area Jesuit schools to help reach out to others who may have been molested, and prodded parents of current students to remain vigilant and push school adminstrators to report suspected abuse promptly to police. Do we really have to push the Church to behave while that same Church throws stones at consenting adults
Parents protested in August outside St. Ignatius high school, 1076 West Roosevelt Road, near downtown Chicago' After many months of delay, the church hierarchy was forced ro act. They had been apparently too busy chasing witches and devils like Guliani.

Our fore fathers clearly had a wonderful understanding of the many so-called religions when they drafted out articles of existence as a nation. It wonderful how they managed to hammer out the great document necessary to exist and become the world power that is now in disarray. Has any one noticed our current problems seem to have eroded to its current level about the time religion began to creep into our democracy such as adding the word ???God??? to our pledge of allegiance? Oh sure, a few of us has the upper hand in knowing they are very proper and right because its their God being reference here, and to hell with the other 500 ???God??? presently recognized in our nation.

Let us not forget the KKK still exist as does the bigotry and hate offered up in many religions of today. Does it go unnoticed that each religion models their fundamentals to aline closely to their rivals for the simple reason that should a competing religion become popular as the current religion of convenience none want to be very far behind. Indeed each of us will die in time and we should not fear the unknown when this approaches for its merely an extension of the same time each human had for the trillions of years before they were conceived here on earth.

I can only hope the Catholic church does not endorse this (insert whatever that drill sergant called the recruit in 'Full Metal Jacket') dirtbag. If that moron Pat Robertson and the Catholic church get on the same page, Christainity is in deep dodo. It will only enforce my belief that when God created man, that was his first and only mistake.

Not all Catholics follow the leader. seriously, some vote their conscious. Pope Paul told GeorgeJr. not to invade iraq, Why does Giuliani side with the iraq Invasion. This Pope is no different.

Some Catholics vote their conscience, not what some high official tries to dictate. If the church is smart it will adhere to the comon sense of ,the rule of Church and state.

Majority of Catholics voted for Democrats in 2006 election.
Catholics and Democrats are more closely aligned for their emphasis on social justice.
Read Matthew 25:31-46
The Sheep and the Goats
31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Why doesn't anyone talk about Chris Dodd, the pro-life democrat, who has all the bells and whistles to be a great president, but not much money?