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  • Posted By: mikihooker @ 11/27/2007 8:01:35 PM

    WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS WHEN CREDIT SCORE DROPPED FROM 750 MID SCORE TO 550 MID SCORE DUE TO SIGNING UP W/ATTORNEY NETWORK? PERFECT PAYMENT HISTORY PRIOR TO SIGNING UP 4 CREDITOR ACCTS W/THIS AGENCY. BECAUSE THE AGENCY DID NOT GET CREDITORS BUY IN W/IN 30 DAYS, MY CREDIT WAS IMPACTED NEGATIVELY. WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS AS I AM NOW UNABLE TO A LOAN APPROVED FOR OVER $800k IN MORTGAGES IN PROGRESS PRIOR TO SIGNING UP W/THE AGENCY.

  • Posted By: kcoleman0921 @ 11/27/2007 6:17:26 PM

    Getting a subprime rate @ 9.5% and not knowing if taxes were inclued is her fault, not the broker or bank. The HOA is not part of the impounds anyways for condos. They always claim I was lied to when they get into trouble, but the facts are this lady went ahead and bought a home under those terms. Deal with it, this is a grown up world and we need to keep our obligation to lenders/ banks and not just walk away when it is no longer convienient to make the mortgage payments.

    • Posted By: Don Camillo @ 11/27/2007 8:00:13 PM

      I agree, it is just too easy to abandon your responsibilities.

      I grew up in a country where individuals cannot declare bankruptcy. If you cannot service your debts you will inherit them to your kids, grandkids etc. There is a very different level of accountability ! That does not only apply to loans but also the property itself and its title. If there is an issue with the house or its title then you are liable as a seller. Of course, there is no need for title insurance, title companies, home inspection etc etc and closing cost on a property are a few hundred $ for notary fees. Your collateral for your loan is not only the property but also your entire income and you have to open a life insurance in the name of your lender to make sure you can keep them harmless in case of a tragic accident.

      In that environment our housing market crisis is completely unthinkable. I have bought several properties without ever having seen them and I don't even have the slightest concern about that. Alegal system based on civil law is a lot more effective protecting all parties in a property transaction

  • Posted By: Cfields @ 11/27/2007 7:59:27 PM

    Ummmm... cbloom57, your arrogance is totally unneeded on this blog. Who cares that you have an MBA. That fact offers no help to those in this unfortunate situation. I hope that in the future you will use better diplomacy (obviously not gained through your studies acquiring your MBA) and much more sensitivity. I guess your mother never taught you that old saying "If you do not have anything nice or positive to say, then do not say anything at all". Besides, it is obvious by your remarks that you are weak in other areas, otherwise you would not need to knock others down to make yourself seem intelligent and informed. I hope you have a beautiful day as you bask in the only accomplishment of obtaining your MBA. But, I digress?????????..

    I send blessing to all of you currently facing stressful times due to the housing market .

  • Posted By: Realestategame @ 11/27/2007 10:25:26 AM

    someone please annswer this question. How does a for closure affect your financial situation. approximately how many points are lost on your credit score. consider this question if the foreclosure wouls be on a second property you inverted in. How long would it take to recover?

    • Posted By: roseycheeks @ 11/27/2007 7:52:51 PM

      A foreclosure is one of the worst things on your credit report and it drops at least 100 points just from the lateness on the credit report. I don't know how much further it would with actual "foreclosure" on your credit but it has to be at least another 50 or so points.

  • Posted By: k-dee @ 11/27/2007 6:22:30 PM

    It is unfortunate that so many of us don't learn to handle our money and credit better. I think so many are used to living above their means that they don't consider the cost should their lifestyle take a hit for the worse. We need to be careful that we don't condition our children to think that it's okay to live on credit. Best bet to avoid this for our children is to teach them to manage their money properly and expect the unexpected, don't spend more than you make and have an emergency fund. We could all learn from others' mistakes. We need to get out of the mentality of "instant gratification". We would all benefit from it. These are very hard lessons to learn and I'm sure many would turn back the hands of time if they could to make different decisions based on their knowledge from the future. As they say, hindsight is always 20/20. This is a good wake up call for all.

    • Posted By: mrs12106 @ 11/27/2007 7:41:36 PM

      Also keep in mind, not all foreclosures are due to bad money management. What about people who have to relocate. My husband and I are in a bind and really struggling to make this house payment. We had to relocate for his job, in which he makes really good money, but we were stuck with a house payment and now new rent in the area we currently live in. We had renter's for partial of the house payment (because who would want to rent when you can buy for the same price?) We can't sell because of this market. Its not all because people do not know how to manage money. Some people have different circumstances...

  • Posted By: foreclosurecoach @ 11/27/2007 6:22:43 PM

    This forclosure epidemic comes as no surprise to me at all. I worked in the mortgage industry from about 10 years. When I started out in the mortgage industry in Alabama in 1992 we had to learn the business from the ground up. I started with a small mortgage broker. We had to learn the business from originations to satisfying post closing conditions. We were in business to make our customers lives better. Then i moved to Georgia and started with a larger mortgage company. The mentality of that company and so many others was about making money. When the interest only loans and other type of sub-prime loans came about it got worse. Everyone was so busy trying to make a dollar. The loan officers and mortgage brokers were busy trying to make a commission. The loan clients were trying to get all the house they could for the smallest amount of downpayment and the smallest monthly payment possible. It became like a "don't ask, don't tell" in the mortgage industry. The mortgage clients did not ask a lot of questions and the mortgage companies did not offer a lot of information. All involved parties were just focused on closing the deal now. no one was looking at tomorrow. No one was even wanting to think about tomorrow. It was such a good ride as long as everyone closed their eyes and rode blindly. Just like all blind driving then came the crash. Now America is facing he fall out from such unthinking behavior. I left the mortgage industry in 2003 because i saw the disaster coming. I am back in the service business though in the capacity of helping people save their homes from foreclosure. I am willing to help anyone with a foreclosure issue. If you have any questions or issues you may contact me at kaizenfinancialmanagement@yahoo.com. Just because you are in a foreclosure situation does not mean all hope is lost.

    • Posted By: troy555 @ 11/27/2007 7:36:57 PM

      you are an idiot, if you want to blame some one blame your self not the mortgage industry. I can see you now, riping off home owners who are about to loose their home.

  • Posted By: roseycheeks @ 11/27/2007 7:23:28 PM

    My husband and I are awaiting Sherriff's sale on our home in March. We had a buyer for our house which fell through less than 24 hours before settlement. We have had our house on the market for over a year. We had a mortgage broker who "added" to our income in order to get the approval for the mortgage. When my husband was not being paid correctly we fell behind and were never able to catch up.

    My advice is to sell it and try the short sale. It actually takes over a year for the foreclosure procedure to start to when the sherriff's sale actually occurs. We have just received an agreement of sale and have submitted it to our lender for a short sale. With the short sale, you will save your credit and in some cases your default may be completely erased from your credit. We were told by a friend in the mortgage business that if you have a foreclosure on your credit, especially with the market and the financing today, you will not be able to purchase a home within at least the next 3 to 4 years let alone get any credit for anything. A foreclosure on your credit is one of the worst things you can have. Also, if you just walk away and give the lender your deed it will still show as a foreclosure on your credit. Best of luck to everyone in our situation out there. I hope you are all blessed with the wisdom needed for the situation.

  • Posted By: Discussed with the American Way @ 11/27/2007 6:52:07 PM

    foreclosurecoach - Thank you for your honesty and life lesson. I hope many people read your message and it opens their eyes.
    To all others - Thank you for your stories. I have learned alot today.

    • Posted By: redunder @ 11/27/2007 7:06:43 PM

      Discussed, I'm embarrased that I've taken such a combative approach to debating with you. Thanks for taking the high road and have a good day.

      • Posted By: Discussed with the American Way @ 11/27/2007 7:15:04 PM

        REDUNDER: Back at you!

  • Posted By: Discussed with the American Way @ 11/27/2007 6:14:08 PM

    cbloom57
    I worked for Realtors and I know how mortgage companies get their business. When was the last time you were given your closing papers in advance to read (which would take 6 months) and read them all? Heck, none of us would purchase homes then. The contracts are to protect the lender, not the buyer.

    • Posted By: cbloom57 @ 11/27/2007 7:13:30 PM

      I've purchased three homes in my lifetime and always knew the terms of the contract before signing the closing papers. I knew the interest rate, the principal, the term, the monthly payments, the cost of insurance and property taxes, and whether I wanted them impounded or not. I also knew if the loan was fixed, adjustable (if adjustable, what the index was, the margin, how often it would adjust, etc.), if it was as negative amortization loan, if PMI was being charged, how much money I would need at closing, etc. In other words, I did my homework and understood 100% what I was doing. Also, the escrow company can give you an estimated closing statement before you sign the papers. Too many people blindly go into purchasing the largest asset they'll ever own, and don't know what the heck they're doing. Maybe it's because I have an MBA that I'm thorough about these things, but to me, it's just common sense.

    • Posted By: redunder @ 11/27/2007 6:46:12 PM

      Discussed, contrary to your prior statement, apparently not all men are created equal. I would wager that your mortgage is (by far) the biggest in your life and you are claiming that you didn't even read the loan agreement? You're a joke.
      And while we're at it, please enlighten us all as to how mortgage companies get their business.

      • Posted By: redunder @ 11/27/2007 6:48:08 PM

        My apologies, biggest investment.

  • Posted By: hot tamale @ 11/27/2007 5:37:58 PM

    I am in a bad spot and decided to walk away. I have the same struggles and I ll make a long story short. I jumped in the sub prime craze and lost. I have talked to everyone I can think of to help. My mortgage moved from accredited to cit group and was making progress in getting a deed in lieu. As my mortgage has been behind for about 6months yes 6months. I thought some resolution was in sight and guess what. Cit group was able to sell my loan to someone else and now the whole process needs to happen all over again. Everyone including me are dancing around the fire pit seeing who will get burned last or the least. I finally got an apt and walked away. It doesn't lesson the financial loss or how I have no credit now and probably for a long time. My house is sitting vacant waiting the outcome of what the final chapter will be. My mind, health, and ability to learn from a lesson and pass those lessons on however make it worth the decision. Material things can be replaced the stress and loss of life can't. Go with your gut instinct and do what makes you live again!!!

    • Posted By: YAB2007 @ 11/27/2007 7:02:11 PM

      I'm with you!!! I am going through something very similar right now. I already know I will be losing my home. My mortgage company has filed foreclosure proceedings against me. I have decided to walk away. My husband and I are filing chapter 7 and yes it is a lot. I see no other viable options. Like you, my peace of mind is more important to me than trying to fix a situation that, unless God decides to bless me financially ASAP, cannot be fixed. You see, I fell into a bad refinancing deal that caused me to owe more on my home than it's worth, along with an Adj Rate Mortgage. My home is currently in desperate need of repairs which I also cannot afford. So, it makes since for me to walk away. Not to mention, my mortgage company would not even work with me within reason. All of their options were not helping me in the long run only themselves. Now they want to talk. Too late!! This may not be everyone's option, but some of you may want to be careful about judging others. I was someone who thought it would never happen to them because I believe in paying my debts... but it did. Just be mindful and prayerful about your decisions!

  • Posted By: pitrow @ 11/27/2007 6:41:00 PM

    I was a single mom in a similar situation. I got a second job. What has happened to our pride? We did this to ourselves, therefore suck it up and keep going. It has taken me three years and I am back on track. My credit is perfect and never had a late payment. Too many people want to take the easy way out.

    • Posted By: redunder @ 11/27/2007 6:47:28 PM

      God bless you, you're the type of individual for whom home loans are designed. Congratulations on getting through tough times and for having the heart and backbone to maintain honor and dignity through a difficult period.

  • Posted By: notaflipper @ 11/27/2007 6:51:13 PM

    There is one other aspect of this crisis that I never see talked about. What about all of those people who are not in danger of losing their housees, but are stuck there indefinitely because of this market? I would guess that most people affected by this are young people in their 20's and 30's (like me) who bought a house at the point in their life when all of our parents did, not because we wanted to flip it. We were just looking for a home. Anyway, not its a few years later and the chances of selling your house are about zero. This affects peoples lives, not just their credit. I know three people (myself included) who had to forego taking jobs that paid much more because we can't move. So in a small way this also slows down the economy because people can't move forward with their careers, thus contributing more money to the economy from a higher income. Just for the record, I am not in danger of losing my house. I will be making my payments on time to this house that feels more like a prison everyday.

  • Posted By: pitrow @ 11/27/2007 6:45:34 PM

    I was a single mom in a similar situation. I got a second job and if I had needed would have gotten a third. What has happened to our pride??? We did this to ourselves so we need to suck it up. It has been three years and I am back on track, perfect credit, and not one late payment. Seems most people want to take the easy road out.

  • Posted By: KimberlyWasHere @ 11/27/2007 5:36:44 PM

    I find myself unable to pay my mortgage. I don't think I was ripped off by mortgage brokers or anything such as that. I had a very good broker who really looked out for me, Bryan Smith with Conrnerstone. he is fantastic. He made sure to get us an FHA loan with a fixed rate. What has hurt us is that in the last two years my property value actually increased by nearly $45,000 (this happened just one month after purchasing the home) therefore raising our taxes and our homeowners insurance went up twice as well, therefore making our mortgage increase from $1100 per month to nearly $1500 and our son is a cancer patient. With the increased mortgage and the doctor bills, we just can't make it! If I am not paid up by December 11, 2007, Countrywide will begin foreclosure proceedings. Do you think they will take a smaller payment temporarily and will that come back to bite me as well with the continued interest accruing?

    • Posted By: kcoleman0921 @ 11/27/2007 6:34:23 PM

      the property taxes only get re-assesed 1 time per yr- the increase was due to the purchase price. The broker should have told you that

  • Posted By: cbloom57 @ 11/27/2007 6:00:37 PM

    After reading many postings, it's quite apparent that most of you (or us) are illiterate! The misspelled words, the bad grammar and sentence structures are embarrassing. No wonder our country is screwed up -- and no wonder people are losing their homes due to pure stupidity (not reading the contracts, not doing the math, and looking for an easy way out).

    • Posted By: DIABLO @ 11/27/2007 6:16:10 PM

      U HAV A SEERYUS PROBLIM GUY - THAT IS IF U R A GUY. THE ATICUL IZ ABUT YOUR MOM SELIN HIR AZZ 2 KEP THA HOM U GRU UP IN AND OBLIUSBEY U R 2 INTISTED IN MIS PELLED WURDS AN GRAMER 2 GIV A CRAP!! GET A LIFE TRUMP!!!!

      • Posted By: redunder @ 11/27/2007 6:31:16 PM

        This article is about which manner of not paying back borrowed money is best. She's not paying the debt because she's not selling her ass (or getting a 2nd job or taking on a roommate).

  • Posted By: Bluehorse1964 @ 11/27/2007 5:49:07 PM

    How can I find out if my (Florida based) mortgage co. is running in the black? Eight months ago I called them for a payoff. Within 30 minutes a loan officer called me offering to change my loan from the 5/1 ARM into a fixed rate loan, waving appraisal, inspection, credit report and only charging $500 in fees.

    Two months ago when I called them again, I asked them in 2 phone calls about the same or similar offer and can't get a return phone call. I'm asking myself if it's because they're so swamped with similar calls? And/or are they themselves on the brink of closing their doors?

    • Posted By: redunder @ 11/27/2007 5:53:23 PM

      On the brink of closing their doors...

      • Posted By: kcoleman0921 @ 11/27/2007 6:26:40 PM

        Guess what- the market changed. The deal is off the table

  • Posted By: coocoot @ 11/27/2007 6:22:02 PM


    a person and there family has to work 2 or more jobs to keep there head above the water theses days

  • Posted By: sundevil_44 @ 11/27/2007 6:17:58 PM

    The problem is the system. 2% of the people have more than 50% of the wealth and the wealth continues to shift toward the richest 1%. How long will we take it?

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