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FactCheck.org: "Outrageous" Exaggerations

McCain's ad revisits some oft-mentioned examples of pork, but is he really the one who rooted them out?

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  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/27/2008 9:04:13 PM

    Obama has 63 Nobel Laureates working on his policy team. They are developing a plan to push America back to the top. Who is responsible for McCain's planning? Americans would be shocked to find that Douglas Holtz-Eakin is the sole person responsible for planning McCain's policy for America's future. Holtz-Eakin is also McCain's economic advisor, filling two full time positions on McCain's team. How can one single man (an economist) be responsible for developing a viable technology plan for our future? Obama has an enormous pool of the most intelligent, talented men and women in America working for him. Soon, they will be working for US.

    And let's not forget that the McCain campaign spent more on Palin's makeup artist than it did on it's foreign policy advisor. When you pay your makeup artist DOUBLE what you pay your foreign policy advisor, it is time to start examining your priorities.

    You look just fine without makeup, John. And Sarah is young enough not to need any. So cut the crap, and start paying some good ECONOMIC ADVISORS so you can have a fiscal plan to present to America. We're in the middle of a huge global financial meltdown, and you are worried about hair and makeup? PLEASE start worrying about the middle class, John. Please.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 8:35:30 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Citizen Radio Interview criticizing the Warren Court as not radical enough for not pursuing redistribution of wealth.

    Says that community organizing is for the purpose of assembling the political power to force redistribution of wealth.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 10/27/2008 9:03:15 PM

      Obama has 63 Nobel Laureates working on his policy team. They are developing a plan to push America back to the top. Who is responsible for McCain's planning? Americans would be shocked to find that Douglas Holtz-Eakin is the sole person responsible for planning McCain's policy for America's future. Holtz-Eakin is also McCain's economic advisor, filling two full time positions on McCain's team. How can one single man (an economist) be responsible for developing a viable technology plan for our future? Obama has an enormous pool of the most intelligent, talented men and women in America working for him. Soon, they will be working for US.

      And let's not forget that the McCain campaign spent more on Palin's makeup artist than it did on it's foreign policy advisor. When you pay your makeup artist DOUBLE what you pay your foreign policy advisor, it is time to start examining your priorities.

      You look just fine without makeup, John. And Sarah is young enough not to need any. So cut the crap, and start paying some good ECONOMIC ADVISORS so you can have a fiscal plan to present to America. We're in the middle of a huge global financial meltdown, and you are worried about hair and makeup? PLEASE start worrying about the middle class, John. Please.

  • Posted By: zenoreo @ 10/27/2008 1:33:40 PM

    Time FOR SOME STRAIGHT TALK!!
    Okay, I'm a Republican by ideology. In fact, I???m a rare breed of Republican ??? I???m highly educated, smart, insightful, successful and very cultured.
    I???m QUESTIONING that out of all great GOP leaders in our party, the BEST CHOICE was McCain ? And Palin?
    McCain is an OLD fool that does not seem to be in his right mind. McCain cannot even keep his own set of lies straight, or even seem to know where or what he is doing at present !
    And for his judgment, just one word ??? Palin!
    Come on, Palin !
    Palin is a train wreck; SPIN any which way you want she is a HUGH mistake!
    Palin is an embarrassment to professional women, the state of Alaska, the GOP and to America.
    Is this the BEST my party can do?
    WHO EVER is running the show at the GOP, needs his/her head examined?
    AND FOR THE RECORD G.W.Bush is much more qualified to be president than McCain or Palin !
    Bush was just a little stupid, and that???s not a crime in America, because if being stupid was a crime then 93% of people in America should be locked up !
    One final word, I cannot believe that the GOP has become so BADLY misguided that the ONLY SUPPORTERS we really have are the WACKOS and FREAKS !
    Only a couple of years ago, those were the types of people we called Democrats, and NOW there are Republicans ??? the losers of society !
    Colin Powell, my apologies, I was anger at you, but NOW I understand you !

  • Posted By: Westof405 @ 10/27/2008 2:29:53 AM

    Nowforthetruth-As Jack Nicholson said, "The truth, you can't handle the truth." Your comment about Obama's tax plan is nonsense. You are clueless and don't understand his tax plan at all. Here is how it really works:
    If I have a business, and I have an employee, like an accountant or lawyer with a secretary, or "Joe the Plumber" with an assistant, or storeowner with a clerk, that employee's salary, plus employment taxes, worker's comp, health care, etc., plus all my business expenses, such as a car, truck, rent, supplies, etc. are deductible under my Schedule C. If after all that is deducted, I net over $250,000, whatever I net ABOVE the $250,000, I will pay an extra 3 percent over the current tax rate (39% instead of 36%). If I net an extra $50,000, then I pay an extra $1,500 on my PERSONAL INCOME, not my business income.

    Obama's tax plan would also give me, as a small business owner, a 50% credit for the health care payments I make for my employee.

    So, in other words, your claim is just plain wrong. If you actually bothered to look at Obama's plan on his website, like I just did, instead of just making it up or listening to Sarah Palin, who also knows nothing, you'd know the difference. It took me less than five minutes to figure this out. The site even has a FAQ for small business owners. Given the way you phrased your comment, I doubt you even own a small business because you don't seem to know anything about how small businesses are taxed.
    www.barackobama.com

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/26/2008 8:30:57 PM

    This is real simple economics. How many full-time employees with benefits does a person with a $50,000 income personally employ? For most, none. How many does a person with $250,000 employ? One less under Obama's tax plan, two less if you include Obam's health plan.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/26/2008 5:04:57 PM

    See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html


    And again what was Frank saying at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. in 2005 to fix Fannie and Freddie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

    So which party is really the liar that soaked the American people?

    See also: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/08/politics/main2335631.shtml

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/26/2008 1:38:34 PM

    GOP: We federalized credit. Nationalized the banks. Grew the National Debt and the size of government to their biggest size ever. Now emagine what that Socialist Obama will do!!

    The links below to legitimate news sources that show that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions of dollars while the Rs were in control of the executive and legislative branches, lobbying Rs only, to prevent regulation of the financial practices that caused the global financial crisis.

    One of the biggest recipients of those millions is Rick Davis, McC's campaign manager, who has been recieving up to $35k/mo. since '00 right up to the present. Freddie continued to pay Davis while Davis managed McC's campaign.

    And Freddie donated $250k to the R convention.

    These facts are everywhere in the legitimate news. You can start at http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1 There's much more legitimate news on this.

    But "Nowforthetruth" wants us to believe that it was the Dems' fault, and that we must fear "that one".

    I was a solid McC supporter and voter until I found out about who paid whom millions to be allowed to loot trillions from our economy, and until I realized how McC sold out to the the most extensive and virulent propaganda machine I have ever seen.

    Ken Peterson, a 40 year republican


    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/26/2008 3:32:47 PM

      p1-2 Quote:

      Unknown to the senators, DCI was undermining support for the bill in a campaign targeting 17 Republican senators in 13 states, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. The states and the senators targeted changed over time, but always stayed on the Republican side.

      In the end, there was not enough Republican support for Hagel's bill to warrant bringing it up for a vote because Democrats also opposed it and the votes of some would be needed for passage. The measure died at the end of the 109th Congress.

      p5 Quote:

      "Democrats did not like the harshest provision, which would have given a new regulator a mandate to shrink Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae by forcing them to sell off part of their portfolios. That approach, the Democrats feared, would cut into the ability of low- and moderate-income families to buy houses."

      The political backdrop to the debate "was like bizarre-o-world," said the second of three people familiar with the program. "The Republicans were pro-regulation and the Democrats were against it; it was upside down."


      p6 quote

      Sen. Richard Shelby, the committee chairman at the time, underscored that in a statement Wednesday, saying that with Democrats already on their side, it was not surprising that Freddie Mac and Freddie Mae went after Republicans. "Unfortunately," said Shelby, R-Ala., "efforts then to derail reform were successful."

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/26/2008 3:30:20 PM

    "Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported. In a communication which serves to put all other media on notice that an Obama administration will exercise media blackmail in response to tough questioning, the Obama camp killed a WFTV interview with Biden's wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.

    "This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/10/obama-campaign.html

    See the interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/26/2008 1:29:02 PM

    There hasn't been a Democrat majority in Washington since 1965, and before that, 1933. It looks like we are about to see another such event take place. By November 5, 2008 both houses of Congress and the Presidency will be in Democratic hands.

    For those readers who can think for themselves, think back to 1965. Kennedy and the Civil Rights movement. A pivotal time in our history, one we can all be proud of. And 1933, when FDR gave us the New Deal and turned around the Great Depression. If you think about the past century, the only two times that we have had a liberal Democrat majority, America got STRONGER and BETTER.

    Obama '08

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 8:18:32 PM

    Obama in this video is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other Community Activist's organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President and pledge to meet with leaders of Acorn and the others present at the convention in his first year, Obama says, quote:

    "Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition, we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda."

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama has promised that Acorn and other groups like it will a part of his transition and setting his agenda if elected:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

  • Posted By: secretrat @ 10/25/2008 7:52:25 PM

    Canadians ended up with a conservative (small c) government, but it was chosen by only slightly over 30% of those who bothered to vote (which was under 50% of those eligible). The fact that Canada has a Conservative government (large C) is a more the result of disproportional representation. Centre and left of centre parties garnered substantially more votes, so if anything, the Canadian people are becoming more socialist than they were previously.

    Here in the US, even the most right wing Republican of them all (Alan Greenspan) has finally admitted that deregulation and corporate greed are the root cause of the current financial crisis. The fact is that the current Republican administration as well as those previous to the Clinton administration, have been the worst manager's of the public purse in history. It has taken Democratic administrations to repair these trainwrecks every time.

    So, to "Concerned Canadian", be thankful you have a health care system that is four times more efficient (years of life expectancy per dollar spent) than what we have here in the US. You may also wish to get up to date politically as well. The PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE party ceased to exist after the merger of the former Progressive Conservative and Reform (Alliance) parties.

  • Posted By: secretrat @ 10/25/2008 7:52:03 PM

    Canadians ended up with a conservative (small c) government, but it was chosen by only slightly over 30% of those who bothered to vote (which was under 50% of those eligible). The fact that Canada has a Conservative government (large C) is a more the result of disproportional representation. Centre and left of centre parties garnered substantially more votes, so if anything, the Canadian people are becoming more socialist than they were previously.

    Here in the US, even the most right wing Republican of them all (Alan Greenspan) has finally admitted that deregulation and corporate greed are the root cause of the current financial crisis. The fact is that the current Republican administration as well as those previous to the Clinton administration, have been the worst manager's of the public purse in history. It has taken Democratic administrations to repair these trainwrecks every time.

    So, to "Concerned Canadian", be thankful you have a health care system that is four times more efficient (years of life expectancy per dollar spent) than what we have here in the US. You may also wish to get up to date politically as well. The PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE party ceased to exist after the merger of the former Progressive Conservative and Reform (Alliance) parties.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:13:22 PM

    CANADIANS HAVE REALIZED THAT SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK. WE JUST VOTED IN A PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT AGAIN. IT???S THE EQUIVALENT TO YOUR REPUBLICAN PARTY. CANADIANS ARE GETTING FED UP WITH RISING TAXES TO SUPPORT SOCIAL PROGRAMS LIKE EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND WELFARE. THESE ARE PROGRAMS WITH GOOD INTENTIONS BUT THEN TOO MANY PEOPLE BOTHERED NOT LOOKING FOR WORK AND OTHERS WERE CHEATING THE SYSTEM JUST TO COLLECT "FREE" MONEY.

    OUR ECONOMY STARTED SUFFERING, THE MIDDLE CLASS WAS BEING SQUEEZED AND BUSINESSES WERE DOWNSIZING OR CLOSING. THATS WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOCIALISM WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA WANTS TO IMPOSE ON THE USA...AT THE WORST POSSIBLE ECONOMIC TIME ON TOP OF THAT....OBAMA IS ABSOLUTELY NUTS !! HE'S GONNA SMASH THE USA TO BITS!

    AND YES, SAME PROBLEMS WITH OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. WE KEEP PUMPING IN TAX DOLLARS YET THE GOVERNMENT IS MESSING IT UP AND THE UNIONIZED WORKERS IN THE HOSPITALS ARE LAZY AND PROVIDE LOUSY SERVICE. IN CANADA YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE PRIVATE MEDICAL CLINICS OPENING UP WHERE CANADIANS WITH MONEY CAN GO FOR IMMEDIATE HEALTHCARE. MORE OFTEN,
    CANADIANS WHO CAN AFFORD IT GO TO THE STATES FOR IMMEDIATE HIGH QUALITY HEALTH CARE BECAUSE IF THEY STAY HOME AND WAIT THEY WOULD DIE.

    CANADIANS VOTED A GOVERNMENT THAT IS ON THE RIGHT TWO TIMES IN A ROW NOW. WE KNOW SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK.....DON'T KNOW WHAT ON EARTH THE AMERICANS ARE DOING GOING DOWN THE SOCIALIST PATH DURING THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS OF ALL THINGS. OBAMA IS A VERY UNWISE RADICAL....BETTER WAKE UP FOLKS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE...AND THAT???S NO JOKE.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:12:35 PM

    GUESS WHO THE UNIONS DONATED $300,000,000.00 TO? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO WANTS TO "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" & RAISE TAXES? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO JOE BIDEN SAYS IS NOT READY TO BE PRESIDENT? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHY FINANCE MARKETS ARE STILL REACTING NEGATIVELY? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO STARTED THEIR POLITICAL CAREER IN A TERRORIST'S HOME? -OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO SAYS US TROOPS AIR RAIDED VILLAGES & KILLED CIVILIANS? -OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO VOTED VS A BILL TO PROTECT BABIES BORN ALIVE IN ABORTION? -OBAMA!

    GOD BLESS AMERICA.....HERE'S YOUR NEW PRESIDENT....ENJOY!!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:12:05 PM

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL SUFFER FROM THE "NOBAMA EFFECT???...TOO BAD...HE WILL LOSE!!

    TODAY, AT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S DAMAGE CONTROL PRESS CONFERENCE HE ATTRIBUTED TO JOE BIDEN'S "RHETORICAL FLOURISHES" RELATING TO HIM NOT ABLE TO HANDLE THE PENDING CRISIS IF HE WERE ELECTED. OBAMA MADE HIS BEST ATTEMPT TO SPIN HIS WAY OUT OF THIS BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE BUYING THIS BS ARE THE NO BRAINS OBAMABOTS.

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA GOES ON TO PROMOTE HIS ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY OF "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" SO THAT HE CAN CREATE AN AMERICAN SOCIETY WHERE ALL CITIZENS ARE AS EQUALS AND ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IN ORDER TO PURSUE PERSONAL PROSPERITY. WELL, IN OTHER WORDS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS TELLING TO EVERY AMERICAN'S FACE THAT HE WILL BE "DICTATING" YOUR PERSONAL FINANCES. AND ALL YOU GUYS ARE EATING IT ALL UP.

    THIS POLITICAL DOCTRINE THAT OBAMA WILL IMPLEMENT IS KNOWN AS SOCIALISM, MARXISM, COMMUNISM, OR WHATEVER TERM ONE WANTS TO USE...BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS AN AFFRONT TO THE FOUNDATION OF AMERICA...CAPITALISM.

    TO IMPOSE THESE DRACONIAN MEASURES SUCH AS RAISING TAXES TO SUPPORT THOSE IN SOCIETY WHO DO NOT EVEN WANT TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES BUT OBAMA DECLARES "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" WILL LEAD TO AN ECONOMIC ABYSS.

    IS THIS THE IDEOLOGY OBAMA ADOPTED FROM HIS CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH WILLIAM AYERS WHO ALSO IS A BIG PROPONENT OF MARXISM?

    AMERICANS, IF INDICATIONS ARE CORRECT AND OBAMA GETS ELECTED, IT WILL PROVE TO BE THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW THAT AMERICA REGRETS WHO THEY ELECTED AS PRESIDENT.

    AN OLD WISE MAN ONCE SAID ..." BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ...."

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:11:28 PM

    You're really in the tank with Obama and the rest of the left-wing radical Marxist media networks. Too bad. I can't believe a bloody word you say because it???s total garbage.

    Anybody who supports Obama is anti-American, a Marxist Socialist and a terrorist sympathizer. Its documented that Obama was influenced by Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Frank Davis Marshall, Pflegger, Louis Farrakhan, Tony Rezko, PLO terrorist , etc., all of these people who Obama takes his talking points from and incorporates into his stump speeches and then communicates this to the American people in a tone like a Martin Luther King. Barack Hussein Obama is dangerous, he has an agenda and a bunch of dumb Americans like you Jonathon Alter are voting for him. You should be ashamed of yourselves for the great harm you are about to subject your country to.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:10:48 PM

    THERE IS NO JOURNALISM IN THE USA ....JUST NAZI 'I LOVE TO FRENCH KISS' NEO MARXIST OBAMA PROPAGANDA MACHINE ....GOODBYE GOOD OL USA AND HELLO
    BANANA REPUBLIC....THERE'S MORE FAIR AND BALANCED JOURNALISM FOUND IN
    CASTRO'S CUBA OR PUTIN'S RUSSIA!!

    SIGNED

    INTERNATIONAL WATCHDOG OF JOURNALISM ETHICS IN WESTERN DEMOCRACIES

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:10:10 PM

    FOR WHAT ITS WORTH....CANADA WAS UNDER A SOCIALIST TAX POLICY THAT WE SHOOK OFF BUT THE USA FOR SOME INSANE REASON WANT TO EMBRACE IT IN THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS.

    IN CANADA, SOCIALIST PARTIES LIKE THE LIBERAL PARTY AND THE NDP (NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY)
    ARE OUT OF FAVOUR. THEY 'VE RAISED TAXES TO SUPPORT SOCIAL PROGRAMS LIKE WELFARE, INTRODUCED POLICIES TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNIONIZE ETC., THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLS TO THIS DAY ITS OWN NATIONAL TV BROADCAST NETWORK CALLED THE CBC. FURTHERMORE THEY HAVE FEDERAL POLICY IN PLACE THAT CONTROLS THE AMOUNT OF FOREIGN CONTENT THAT MEDIA OULETS LIKE RADIO AND TELEVISION CAN BROADCAST. IT MUST COMPLY WITH A SPECIFIED AMOUNT OF CANADIAN CONTENT.

    WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IN THE USA IS THAT THEY ARE ADOPTING SOCIALISM WHICH MIRRORS OBAMA'S POLICY HE IS SELLING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. WHY DOES THE USA WANT TO GO DOWN THE SOCIALIST CANADIAN ROAD? WE CANADIANS JUST VOTED IN A CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT TO THE USA'S REPUBLICAN PARTY ....TO GET TAXES LOWERED AND REDUCE WELFARE BECAUSE IT ENCOURAGES SECTORS OF SOCIETY TO NOT LOOK FOR WORK. IT WAS A DRAG ON THE CANADIAN ECONOMY BUT OUR COUNTRY HAS IMPROVED ECONOMICALLY BY MOVING AWAY FROM THIS IDEOLOGY BUT THE STATES IN ALL THEIR WISDOM ARE MOVING TO THE LEFT-WING SOCIALISM AGENDA....AND I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:09:35 PM

    WHEN OBAMA WAS IN TAMPA BAY ON HIS CAMPAIGN STUMP HE SAYS HE???S CHEERING THE DEVIL RAYS.

    WHEN OBAMA WAS IN PHILADELPHIA ON HIS CAMPAIGN STUMP HE SAY???S HE???S CHEERING THE PHILLIES.

    WHAT HAPPENED TO OBAMA???S ???WE DON???T NEED DOUBLE-TALKIN POLITICIANS ANYMORE IN DC????

    OBAMA SAYS HE???S A WHITE SOX FAN...ASK HIM TO NAME SOMEONE ON THE TEAM...HE DOESN???T KNOW.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 7:09:04 PM

    NBC=ACORN=LEFT-WING NUTJOBS=ANTI-AMERICAN=NY TIMES=SOCIALISM=CNN=OBAMA

    DOES ANYONE DISPUTE THIS? ....THOUGHT SO ....ENJOY REID=PELOSI=OBAMA REGIME FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS...YIKES!

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