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Messiah On A Hill

Billionaire Munib al-Masri looks to capitalize on Palestinian anger.

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  • Posted By: thebullss @ 12/03/2007 2:37:41 AM

    Annapolis, was grate start for promising the Palestinians their long over due land. In fact to date was the 60th anniversary of such decision by the UN, Sixty years of war and peace talk and a few UN resolutions to that effect which the U.S. would not bother to enforce unlike the resolutions that would like to enforce.

    Palestinians have come to conclusion that Israel and its supporters just talk for the sake of talking and do not wish to end this conflict. Notice I said Palestinians and NOT Mahmoud Abbas. They (Palestinians) have been toyed with not only by Israelis and Americans, but also by their own leaders, by other Arab countries, each for their own political reasons, and also by Islamic Republic of Iran.
    If sixty years ago the UN told the Palestinians and the Israelis to go and negotiate a peace based on two state solutions, and sixty years later they are still at the exact same place that they were, what make them to do this now?
    Does the Palestinian have something this time around to offer for the negotiation to go forward that they did not have for the last 60 years? Probably not.
    Does the Israelis have more incentive to offer the Palestinian their statehood? Definitely yes.
    The problem is that the Palestinians do not have anything to offer at the peace negotiation or anything that they could negotiate with, or any bargaining chip, except to say what they want. For instance if Israel would not give the lands before 1967, and say, we can only give you 90% of them, could the Palestinian counter offer and say okay will give you??? this??? and you give us the whole 100% of the 1967 land. No, they can not, since they do not have any chips to negotiate with. And because Palestinian believe, by virtue of their rights and a few UN resolutions to the idea that Palestine must have its 1967 boarders in order to say we have a just peace.

    That is the essence of the problem. The Israelis has taken so much from the Palestinians that they have not left anything for negotiation. Then you might ask how this could be solved? As always most difficult problems have simple solutions;

    That simple go back to 1967 boarders would solve most of the problems, except the older problem of the refugees, which goes back much further. That problem also should be look at in the most simple way, some ideas have already surfaced, compensation for those people and their family, in fact it should be a very generous compensation offer that they(refugees) can not refuse.

  • Posted By: thebullss @ 12/03/2007 2:03:00 AM

    Annapolis, was grate start for promising the Palestinians their long over due land. In fact to date was the 60th anniversary of such decision by the UN, Sixty years of war and peace talk and a few UN resolutions to that effect which the U.S. would not bother to enforce unlike the resolutions that would like to enforce.

    Palestinians have come to conclusion that Israel and its supporters just talk for the sake of talking and do not wish to end this conflict. Notice I said Palestinians and NOT Mahmoud Abbas. They (Palestinians) have been toyed with not only by Israelis and Americans, but also by their own leaders, by other Arab countries, each for their own political reasons, and also by Islamic Republic of Iran.
    If sixty years ago the UN told the Palestinians and the Israelis to go and negotiate a peace based on two state solutions, and sixty years later they are still at the exact same place that they were, what make them to do this now?
    Does the Palestinian have something this time around to offer for the negotiation to go forward that they did not have for the last 60 years? Probably not.
    Does the Israelis have more incentive to offer the Palestinian their statehood? Definitely yes.
    The problem is that the Palestinians do not have anything to offer at the peace negotiation or anything that they could negotiate with, or any bargaining chip, except to say what they want. For instance if Israel would not give the lands before 1967, and say, we can only give you 90% of them, could the Palestinian counter offer and say okay will give you??? this??? and you give us the whole 100% of the 1967 land. No, they can not, since they do not have any chips to negotiate with. And because Palestinian believe, by virtue of their rights and a few UN resolutions to the idea that Palestine must have its 1967 boarders in order to say we have a just peace.

    That is the essence of the problem. The Israelis has taken so much from the Palestinians that they have not left anything for negotiation. Then you might ask how this could be solved? As always most difficult problems have simple solutions;

    That simple go back to 1967 boarders would solve most of the problems, except the older problem of the refugees, which goes back much further. That problem also should be look at in the most simple way, some ideas have already surfaced, compensation for those people and their family, in fact it should be a very generous compensation offer that they(refugees) can not refuse.

  • Posted By: awnevip @ 11/27/2007 2:15:42 PM

    MOneeb Al - Masri is A good Man and he give and stile give what he can give for the Palestinian i love this man and i hope we have many people like him .

    Awne Abu Zant - Nablus/Palestine

  • Posted By: Abdullah the Butcher @ 11/27/2007 12:58:21 PM

    This conflict has always possessed deep seeded issues that are difficult for Americans in particular to understand. We belive in seperation of church and state and the right to freely gather and worship as we please. When Israel became a "state" or a state of dissarray, the palestinians were "displaced" and put on land they didn't want to occupy. Reminds me ALOT of what the new settlers and "americans" did to the NATIVE indians here. The bible speaks of this conflict many years BC and it STILL exists today. We fight prejudice, in vain mind you, in our country but believe that the prejudice in the Israel / Palestinian debate needs to be quelled. What is the answer ? How do they find peace? How does an Israeli child know to hate the Palestinian and the Palestinian to hate the Israeli ? They are all armed to the gills. Soon, Iran will proliferate a nuclear threat. Are we going to wait until this happens ? The only way to negotiate peace is to give up some power, sometimes the upper hand. Both sides believe the other has something they want. When we are dealing with Islamist Militant groups that brandish govermental power, negotiating is nothing more than formal terrorism. They won't agree. They won't negotiate effectively and Iran will have the last say unless someone or some entity of someones makes a stand. It's inevitable and it is going to happen. Open your eyes and get ready for WW3. I'm not a doomsday scholar or someone that wishes this. I'm just a realist, terrorists don't negotiate or perpetuate a better life. They kill indiscriminately and will continue to do so until the state of Israel doesn't exist. Period.

  • Posted By: Shankardada2 @ 11/27/2007 12:25:36 PM

    Why are we Americans giving billions of dollars in support and food to these Palestinians? They were cheering and firing their guns into the air when the World Trade Center fell. I guess it is because we are trying to keep our oil feifdom, Saudi Arabia happy. To bad we Americans are so addicted to cheap oil that we give money and food to these barbarians who would cheer our deaths to the man.

  • Posted By: mishnyel @ 11/27/2007 12:23:00 PM

    Palestinians and the radical groups which both fuel each other's egos, regardless of sanction or otherwise - will always have some Syrian based financial backup that will further their so called plight to establish rulings against Israelis and Israel as a nation. It's not surprising that some moron would seek to benefit off of it, but even posting this article promotes it and idealists who support things of this matter. Iran financially backs Syria, Syria in return backs fundamentalist extremists in the Palestinian governments, and no one who is a true Muslim of their nation would ever let Israel be recognized as a separate individual state. What most Americans don't understand is that this is mostly a religion biased region - and that Israel and its people are the 'enemy' of this, being seen as invaders of that area. Peace summits and talks are all bogus - and like in the past will continue to make little headway as long as 'religions' are in the forefronts of the people of that region. This guy who is made out to make profits off of the sufferings of the peoples in that area is nothing more than a simple opportunist - and should be spat upon like anyone else who dares to make profit off of people who are on the front lines dying. I myself have studied the politics of this region with some intensity - and can recall Palestinians burning the American flag broadcasted on their stations with support from their local authorities. Israel is the victim - but cannot seem to make headway because wanting to maintain military support from the United States. After all - we did arm Israel with a lot, and even make budget to do so. Truly, if Israel really did have its way - fullscale, all-out war would have occured long ago... Unfortunately, Israel must think about its impact of trade relations with its neighbors and how - Israel still being the new neighbor re-established in the region - that its own survival in a very hostile, religion-biased area can remain as a functioning nation for its own people.

  • Posted By: Cesaria @ 11/26/2007 6:45:18 PM

    I cannot stand the same old line that nothing will work unless the Palestinian people accept Israel's right to exist. Israel on the other hand doesn't accept Palestine's right to exist and if we want to go tit for tat on violence, Israeli's aren't babies here - the only difference with their mass and indiscriminate killings is they have US backing and go in the name of 'protecting' themselves. Israel completely disregards the Palestinian viewpoint and it's sad how the blame is always on the Palestinian' peoeople.

  • Posted By: mbronner @ 11/26/2007 3:38:13 PM

    Talking is always better than killing, especially when the killed are your family members. That said, this conflict will only be resolved when and if the Palestinian people reject violence and accept Israel's right to exist. Anything less than that will not succeed. Not now, not ever. As long as Palestinians blame other people for their pain, there will never be a resolution. If the Palestinians are just stalling for the time when they can destroy Israel with modern weaponry then they shouldn't expect the USA to help them. Regardless of the inane comments made by former President Carter, the peace process has always been in the hands of the Palestinians, only to have their peace slip through their fingers. Blame yourselves and not others, and stop shooting guns in the air every time you celebrate. Finally, if the Palestinians choose to live as a third world country with a token Billionaire, that's their choice, no matter how incredibly stupid it is.

  • Posted By: adirondack_1 @ 11/26/2007 7:54:22 AM

    Everything looks up from the bottom. Are the radical powers ready to concede fighting will improve nothing? Apply that test to the entire region and you have the answer to peace. Some factions do not mind life in a cave though and this is an important point. It shows that poverty is already tolerated such that it is less a convincing force than a driving force. The unity they have is in religious terms and that is fractured badly. One might be better off attempting to turn the hands of time back rather than attempt to mend the hearts and minds. That leaves exile, the complete and total isolation of those who wish to no longer participate in the activity of those who prosper from civil relationships. Mr Al-Masri is about to inspect the proportions of those who fit each category and I hope he is ready to accept what he finds.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 11/25/2007 4:23:09 AM

    I just hope that he can succeed where others have failed. There is no harm in trying. He cannot bring all his money to the grave anyway.

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