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  • Posted By: Mereb @ 11/29/2007 4:15:06 PM

    The problem of the DIA and DMZ is that they both came from Jungle. They became leaders of each country themselve instead of handiing the power to the people that they claim to free. Then they would have had a special pleace and respect in both countries by its own peple. But, they chose to be dictators of both countries sitting in the thorn wearing a crown. They made the law of the jungle to rule the civilize people. That's why, there is another war and rumors of war is going on again. Sad to say but not surprising. Eri. and Ethio. people are fed up with it. They want peace but not with those two cousins ruining each countries.

  • Posted By: Henock @ 11/29/2007 3:50:16 AM

    PART-2)
    Simply speaking Ethiopia is creating a vicious cycle to take as much time as possible so Eritrea would be frustrated and give in to their demands. Surprisingly, the plan was to hold Eritrea in no-war no-peace trap and bring the economy to a stand still (stagnant position), their plan was met with a re-arranging of the Eritrean force personnel. The Eritreans are extremely versatile, they changed the formula and used the military to watch from the side of their eyes across the 25 KM TSZ while being productive working on roads and buildings and fixing the cities and small towns Ethiopia bombed during the war. To the surprise of American and British financiers of the TPLF war machine, the Eritreans government re-arranged all the work force according to the need of the country's economic sustainability. Many of began working on the land while others continued to work on construction and roads to rehabilitate the land and keep the economy afloat. In the mean time, Ethiopia continue to receive massive cash injection into its economy and yet they are still dependent on foreign assistance ~ 70% of their economy is on life support while Eritrea is free of any form of support or assistance.

    Eritrea has always been advocating remaining within the disputed areas, while Ethiopians marched deep into Eritrean territories and looted everything they can and burned what they cannot take. Some 40 KM deep into Eritrean they looted and burned an evacuated town during the invasion of Eritrean. Ethiopia had never had upper hand during the war, Eritrea signed the agreement when the UN requested both accept secession of hostilities. The notion that Ethiopia won is flawed and for that reason they continue to feed the world that lie, and somehow they deserve to hold onto what they gained during the war including Badme. One more thing, when I got to what the lady in your report said, her son is in the army, and she is afraid of "cannon fodder," ask anyone you want even an Ethiopian, Eritreans do not use cannon-fodder, it is Ethiopia that use their soldiers to get into a fire, because they have more soldiers to spare. Eritrea could eject Ethiopia from Badme by force, but we have the law in the Eritrean side and there is no need to launch another war, but we reserve the right to evict them at anytime of our choosing. With respect to Assab, it is Eritrean territory. Ethiopia has more claim to Djibouti than to Assab, for the whole Eritrea only forced to merge with Ethiopia in 1962, and just prior to the merging the Eritreans run to the jungle to fight for independence. European colonizers made the whole of African map during the scramble for Africa meeting in Germany in 1884/85, and Eritrea was a colony of Italy since that time until the ousting of Fascist Italy by the Allied from all its colonies in 1942. So, please be sensitive when writing about historical facts, because, some of us get really offended by sloppy writing, please refrain from doing an incomplete job.

    • Posted By: Postdoc2007 @ 11/29/2007 3:10:11 PM

      I am an Eritrean who was trained to be in the Eritrean Army, but I am now living in the US. I could not help writing after I read Henock's piece which is full of out-of-reality Eritrean ultranationalism. I was especially struck when he wrote," Eritrea could eject Ethiopia from Badme by force, but we have the law in the Eritrean side and there is no need to launch another war." Leaving aside the stupidity and arrogance of assuming that Eritrea could eject Ethiopia just so easily, I would like to ask Henock who he referring to when he is using the pronoun "WE". Henock, are you a soldier in the Eritrean Army who is going to fight with Ethiopian soldiers if war erupts? My guess is that you are one of those diaspora Eritreans who do not care about the lives that are going to be lost if, God forbid, we find ourselves at war with Ethiopia. I know, I know are going to raise lots of money for the Eritrean regime. I also know you are going to post numerous articles in support of the Eritrean Defense Forces. But the one thing I know you are not going to do is fight as a soldier if war erupts. You defend Eritreanism via writng and money, but you want others (who were not luck to go abraod) to defend Eritrea with with their blood, limbs, and lives. The selfishness of the diaspora just amazes me!
      Solomon

  • Posted By: Norval @ 11/29/2007 2:55:55 PM

    Both countries would be well advised to ignore offers of help from the US. Look at what the US has done to Iraq. Monies spent on infrastructure rather than arms benefit the people rather than the arms dealers. Two of the largest arms dealers, the US and Germany, have a lot more to gain from selling arms to the emerging nations, first they loan money, then sell arms, then collct on loans. The emerging nations get the means to kill people, a debt they cannot pay, and no means of self development and independence from the former colonizers. Calling leaders dictators just plays into the hands of those who would like to see these two countries have at it again.

  • Posted By: eritus @ 11/29/2007 1:41:56 PM

    This article is one of the most balanced on Erit-Ethio conflict. Thanks you Jason. You got it right this time.

  • Posted By: moha @ 11/29/2007 5:50:08 AM

    being from Mogadishu,these two leaders are causing alot of problem for us by supporting the two warring parties..the government and the supporters of the Islamic courts.... let them put their house in order and leave we Somalis alone to solve our own difficulties..why don`t they take care of the millions of their fellow country men who are having a great deal of hardship to feed themselves and their families? instead of paying millions to cuse this mayhem

  • Posted By: Henock @ 11/29/2007 3:37:58 AM

    PART-1)

    The author of this piece needs to read more and research more before writing a news piece. One thing he forgot in this case is the April 2002 ruling is FINAL and BINDING. If the author of this report has difficulties of understanding it means, both nation governments signed to abide by the outcome no matter what, there is no ifs or buts, just accept and translate the verdict on the ground. Eritrea and Ethiopia confirmed their commitment just prior to the date the announcement was to make, as soon as the ruling announced both nation governments again confirmed their acceptance on April 13 2002. The accord calls for implementing the ruling within six months of the ruling as per FINAL and BINDING. Eritrea was waiting for the claims court to come with their finding, meanwhile Ethiopia requested clarifications to eighteen points in the ruling, although such request was not allowed, but the Eritrean Ethiopian Border Commission entertained the request and gave a thorough clarification, again they asked for clarification of the previous clarification, the commission understood the game was designed to delay, however understanding the destruction that took place during the war they patiently replied second clarification, and told Ethiopia there is no more clarifications can be submitted. Ethiopian prime minister angered by the reply and called the commission as "irresponsible" and "illegal."

    As you stated in your report, both nations hired lawyers to argue their point and both nations understand the document they signed is FINAL and BINDING. However, because the verdict did not go according to their expectations, hence they refused to abide by it. From April 2002 until November 2004 Meles Zenawi and his TPLF organization refused to accept the ruling, then Meles comes up with his own "resolution" with five-point precondition attached to it. Mind you this is taking time, making the situation very frustrating to Eritrea as she is unable to use the 25KM land the UN peace keeping contingent is stationed at, meanwhile the UN peace keeping violate the law of the land, some were caught abusing children, others were caught smuggling human cargo, others were caught spying for foreign agencies. Frustrated by do nothing policy by the UN personnel, Eritrean government requested in October 2005 those extra personnel from the UN who are roaming in the capital city leave the country within certain period. Just calculate the amount of time that took for Eritrea to be frustrated by do nothing UN personnel, While the agreement calls for six months time frame to implement the ruling, but the case took more than 3.5 years and nothing has been done. Now the Ethiopians are accusing Eritrea has violated the December 2000 secession of hostilities by bringing 200 military personnel to work on the land, which happens to be in the 25 km TSZ. This would not have happened had Ethiopia allowed the cartographers to come and demarcate the border according to the agreement.

  • Posted By: negusu @ 11/29/2007 1:25:04 AM

    The regime in Ethiopia is in power only for its own (the Tigrai region) and for the US interest. Zenawi jailed opposition leaders, silenced journalists and killed 193 people on the streets of Addis Ababa, invaded and committing war crimes in Somalia and genocide in Ogaden. Now it has refused to accept the UN boundary commission ruling and occupied sovereign Eritrean territories and is preparing for another war. But please don???t blame only the American absurd foreign policy who is behind all this. We all know US government and its amateur state department employees handling African affairs are responsible for all this .However, how about the UK???s double standard policy of continuously bashing Mugabe for human rights violation and ignoring the plight and atrocities in the Horn committed by Meles and co? Mugabe (never killed anyone) is an angel in contrast with the real devil in the horn.

  • Posted By: negusu @ 11/29/2007 1:24:32 AM

    The regime in Ethiopia is in power only for its own (the Tigrai region) and for the US interest. Zenawi jailed opposition leaders, silenced journalists and killed 193 people on the streets of Addis Ababa, invaded and committing war crimes in Somalia and genocide in Ogaden. Now it has refused to accept the UN boundary commission ruling and occupied sovereign Eritrean territories and is preparing for another war. But please don???t blame only the American absurd foreign policy who is behind all this. We all know US government and its amateur state department employees handling African affairs are responsible for all this .However, how about the UK???s double standard policy of continuously bashing Mugabe for human rights violation and ignoring the plight and atrocities in the Horn committed by Meles and co? Mugabe (never killed anyone) is an angel in contrast with the real devil in the horn.

  • Posted By: negusu @ 11/29/2007 1:22:58 AM

    The regime in Ethiopia is in power only for its own (the Tigrai region) and for the US interest. Zenawi jailed opposition leaders, silenced journalists and killed 193 people on the streets of Addis Ababa, invaded and committing war crimes in Somalia and genocide in Ogaden. Now it has refused to accept the UN boundary commission ruling and occupied sovereign Eritrean territories and is preparing for another war. But please don???t blame only the American absurd foreign policy who is behind all this. We all know US government and its amateur state department employees handling African affairs are responsible for all this .However, how about the UK???s double standard policy of continuously bashing Mugabe for human rights violation and ignoring the plight and atrocities in the Horn committed by Meles and co? Mugabe (never killed anyone) is an angel in contrast with the real devil in the horn.

  • Posted By: negusu @ 11/29/2007 1:20:48 AM

    This is the second time you have written negativley knowng that the people who support you and support the Addis Regime must be satisfied. Believe me Eritreans by thousand in every corner of the world along with the large majority in Eritrea stand by their President/Government. I can send you plenty of proof. On the other hand the dying regime in Addis does not have the support of the large (I mean Huge numbers) majority in Ethiopia and will soon realize that it is not in their best interest to meddle in Eritrean affairs.
    Jason please stop this madness and tell the story the proper way. By the way Mr. Afwerki who is a person of integrity recently had more that 10 diplomats confirmed to Eritrea and continues to expand the diplomacy of good governance to many other nations. May be the US should consider and build stronger ties with Eritrea, because Eritrea is a nation that will change the entire horn of Africa.

  • Posted By: negusu @ 11/29/2007 1:19:57 AM

    This is the second time you have written negativley knowng that the people who support you and support the Addis Regime must be satisfied. Believe me Eritreans by thousand in every corner of the world along with the large majority in Eritrea stand by their President/Government. I can send you plenty of proof. On the other hand the dying regime in Addis does not have the support of the large (I mean Huge numbers) majority in Ethiopia and will soon realize that it is not in their best interest to meddle in Eritrean affairs.
    Jason please stop this madness and tell the story the proper way. By the way Mr. Afwerki who is a person of integrity recently had more that 10 diplomats confirmed to Eritrea and continues to expand the diplomacy of good governance to many other nations. May be the US should consider and build stronger ties with Eritrea, because Eritrea is a nation that will change the entire horn of Africa.

  • Posted By: Hagos @ 11/28/2007 10:47:56 PM

    I wish if you understand Amharic. Prof. Tesfatsion on ETN described both Melese and Issays as the same dictotar. I read some of the comment written to your article but this it self will tell you how much distractive they are and ignorant. They think you will be intemidated like how they intimidate people in Ethiopia. Thank you for your article.

    http://www.ethiomedia.com/atop/ethiopian_video_clips.html

  • Posted By: alula @ 11/28/2007 10:34:23 PM

    for nearly 20 years during the cold war the two dictators had been leading two sequally fanatic marxist guerilla grinsurgent groups chasing after one and the same prey--Ethiopia--side by side harmoniously and in a hihgly synchronised military operations. They succeeded in 1991. One reigned in Asmara the other in Addis but still still their eye on one and the same prey--Ethiopia. During the initial years the victim seemed enough to fill the cold war shrunken bellies of the two poor, famished and skinny guerilla leaders and their millitia and ruled in harmony for few years. As the cold war hayenas eat more they needed more and Ethiopia gradually prooved not to be enough to satiate the two guerilla leaders turned dictators with proportionally bigger bellies, wider mothes, and gluttonous appetites.

    The Eritrean dictator first looked towards Yemen for more scavenging trash, but didn't succeed. The Ethiopian one looked to Sudanm but was not lucky. Both tried togather in Somalia which turned out to be much more barren after being continuosly disemboweled by its own hayenas. Finally the two dictators learned that the only lucrative venture is still fighting over the same prey--Ethiopia.

    Peace can reign in the region when the two psychotic, bloodlusted, mafiosi are dealth with by the combined muscles of the victims-the peoples of both countries.

  • Posted By: Abeden @ 11/28/2007 10:29:30 PM

    I beg to difer with your analysis which seems to me it was spoon-fed to you by people you unscruplousw jornalists like to refer as an anonymos. There is no comparisn between the law abiding Isaias on the service of his people and country and the lawless irresponsible at the service of foreign interest Meles. Eritrea will ferociousley defend its sovereignty come what may. don't you make any mistake about that. The problem probably would have been solved by now if it were not for empty head "Journalists" of the type of Jason that are consciously or unconciously seem to give credance to what the Weyane thugs spew out.

  • Posted By: Abeden @ 11/28/2007 10:29:12 PM

    I beg to difer with your analysis which seems to me it was spoon-fed to you by people you unscruplousw jornalists like to refer as an anonymos. There is no comparisn between the law abiding Isaias on the service of his people and country and the lawless irresponsible at the service of foreign interest Meles. Eritrea will ferociousley defend its sovereignty come what may. don't you make any mistake about that. The problem probably would have been solved by now if it were not for empty head "Journalists" of the type of Jason that are consciously or unconciously seem to give credance to what the Weyane thugs spew out.

  • Posted By: belul @ 11/28/2007 10:05:59 PM

    You explain very well the difference and similarity of the two leaders and countries people. Moreover, Meles is from Tigrai father and Eritrean mother. Most of Ethiopian ministers are mixed blood (Ethiopian father and Eritrean mother). Specifically, Berket Simoen is completely Eritrean borne in Ethiopia. This is very important if you know the nature and culture of the Eritrean people.
    One thing you need to remember is that the last 30 years Ethiopians paid millions of dollars and life that invaded Eritrea to get sea access. This mess was designed by king of Haileslassie without thinking twice. Ethiopians learned that because of this mess they live in poverty for ever. They know there was no reason to fight with Eritrea again! Ethiopian government and people knew to fight with Eritrea is not for their benefit.

    In addition, the officials in Ethiopia with Eritrean blood did not want to harm and heart Eritrean people again.
    Here is the Question for the editor:
    i) If Ethiopians know war with Eritrea is not for their benefit, whose benefit is it?
    ii) If Ethiopian officials didn???t want to harm their people (Eritrean) in blood, and if they still alarming war against Eritrean, who is the boss? Whose mouth do they use to beat war drum? Who is behind? Who want to harm Eritrean?

    Like other people of the world these people (Eritrean and Ethiopian) deserve to live in peace!
    I can???t imagine any benefit by making these two innocent people fight for life!

  • Posted By: Samuel4 @ 11/28/2007 10:05:23 PM

    what a ridiculous article!! to describe Meles zenawi as "dictator" equal to the one-party eritrean regime is unreasonable if not idiotic.
    the "only" problem in your article is there is a multiparty parliament in Ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY, there are dozens of independent media in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, there is full freedom for minority religions in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, opposition PMs vote for and against all government policies in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY....there are private radios and growing free press in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, there is almost 10% GDP growth in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY. ..all this making your claim that Meles Zenawi is "dictator" a complete joke!!!

  • Posted By: belul @ 11/28/2007 10:03:51 PM

    You explain very well the difference and similarity of the two leaders and countries people. Moreover, Meles is from Tigrai father and Eritrean mother. Most of Ethiopian ministers are mixed blood (Ethiopian father and Eritrean mother). Specifically, Berket Simoen is completely Eritrean borne in Ethiopia. This is very important if you know the nature and culture of the Eritrean people.
    One thing you need to remember is that the last 30 years Ethiopians paid millions of dollars and life that invaded Eritrea to get sea access. This mess was designed by king of Haileslassie without thinking twice. Ethiopians learned that because of this mess they live in poverty for ever. They know there was no reason to fight with Eritrea again! Ethiopian government and people knew to fight with Eritrea is not for their benefit.

    In addition, the officials in Ethiopia with Eritrean blood did not want to harm and heart Eritrean people again.
    Here is the Question for the editor:
    i) If Ethiopians know war with Eritrea is not for their benefit, whose benefit is it?
    ii) If Ethiopian officials didn???t want to harm their people (Eritrean) in blood, and if they still alarming war against Eritrean, who is the boss? Whose mouth do they use to beat war drum? Who is behind? Who want to harm Eritrean?

    Like other people of the world these people (Eritrean and Ethiopian) deserve to live in peace!
    I can???t imagine any benefit by making these two innocent people fight for life!

  • Posted By: belul @ 11/28/2007 10:02:56 PM

    You explain very well the difference and similarity of the two leaders and countries people. Moreover, Meles is from Tigrai father and Eritrean mother. Most of Ethiopian ministers are mixed blood (Ethiopian father and Eritrean mother). Specifically, Berket Simoen is completely Eritrean borne in Ethiopia. This is very important if you know the nature and culture of the Eritrean people.
    One thing you need to remember is that the last 30 years Ethiopians paid millions of dollars and life that invaded Eritrea to get sea access. This mess was designed by king of Haileslassie without thinking twice. Ethiopians learned that because of this mess they live in poverty for ever. They know there was no reason to fight with Eritrea again! Ethiopian government and people knew to fight with Eritrea is not for their benefit.

    In addition, the officials in Ethiopia with Eritrean blood did not want to harm and heart Eritrean people again.
    Here is the Question for the editor:
    i) If Ethiopians know war with Eritrea is not for their benefit, whose benefit is it?
    ii) If Ethiopian officials didn???t want to harm their people (Eritrean) in blood, and if they still alarming war against Eritrean, who is the boss? Whose mouth do they use to beat war drum? Who is behind? Who want to harm Eritrean?

    Like other people of the world these people (Eritrean and Ethiopian) deserve to live in peace!
    I can???t imagine any benefit by making these two innocent people fight for life!

  • Posted By: Samuel4 @ 11/28/2007 10:02:41 PM

    the only problem is there is a multiparty parliament in Ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, there are dozens of independent media in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, there is full freedom for minority religions in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, there are private radios and growing free press in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, there is almost 10% GDP growth in ethiopia FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY. ..all this making your claim that Meles Zenawi is "dictator" a complete joke!!!

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