Something that must not be ignored is that JFK, RFK and MLK all had great aspirations. But their future endeavours were cut short because of God's hate of adultery. He hates it so much that He made the sin one of the Ten Commandments! John McCain is and was an adulterer. The Republican evangelicals are trying to put an adulterer into the White House! The media decided to squash it; act like it never happened. Favoritism for McCain obviously. But I have not forgotten. As far as I know, Obama is not an adulterer. God lets us do our thing, campaigning, voting and such and then He gives us who He wants to lead us. Not my words. They are in the Bible, as you well know! So the chances of McCain becoming president are slim and none because God doesn't like ugly, which adultery is! If McCain were to win as far back as I can remember this would be the first time a known adulterer would be allowed to go into the White House as president. The sin may have been committed afterward, but not before entrance.
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She's being accused of pandering, of coming to Saddleback to court the evangelical vote. What do you think about that?
[Laughing.] If you look up politician in the dictionary, there are plenty of synonyms and one of them is pandering. A wise politician wants to cover all the bases, there's no doubt about that. We wanted to give people a chance to hear what she'd say she'd do about AIDS if she was president.
Were you disappointed that the others didn't come?
I was, I really was. To me, in some ways, it might have been short-sighted. I do know [the Republicans] had the YouTube event the night before, but the bottom line is, I counted 13 television cameras at the back of the sanctuary, there was wall-to-wall media. The fact is, it was free publicity—on the occasion of World AIDS Day.
After last year's conference, you got heat from some conservative Christians for inviting Barack Obama, a pro-choice Democrat, to speak at Saddleback. What did you learn from that experience?
What I learned is, no matter what you do, they're going to criticize you. There were only about a handful of critics, and three or four were bloggers—it's very easy to give yourself a title these days and be this or that. One of the things they were saying last time was, "Rick Warren allowed Barack Obama to use his pulpit and preach to his congregation." First, we didn't have a pulpit, second it wasn't a church service. It was a conference, bringing in people from every walk of life from around the world. I would never, ever have a politician address the congregation in a worship service. I do not mind a politician coming to talk about AIDS if they're running for president.
This conversation and others you've had recently make me wonder whether you're planning to vote for a Democrat.
I have no idea, and I certainly wouldn't tell you. I'm registered Independent. I have friends on both sides of the aisle. I am a pastor. What do pastors do? Pastors encourage leaders.
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