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  • Posted By: giton @ 12/06/2007 11:36:38 AM

    The molesters of boys are usually found (those that are caught) in the ranks of men who deal with boys such as coaches, priests, scout masters, counselors, etc. It would be better for those in authority to monitor them than to instill in children the idea that all adults are predatory. In a sense this is making it look like "everybody" does it. Obviously, children need to be warned about strangers.

  • Posted By: Vatican II Mark @ 12/06/2007 3:31:04 AM

    In my book, if something such as that MUST be printed and distributed...then there's something wrong with the entire 9 yards...think about it.

  • Posted By: robinsoncom @ 12/05/2007 10:36:20 PM

    this is sickening

  • Posted By: Kaelinda @ 12/05/2007 6:19:03 PM

    When God created humans, He created them with free will. Any human can choose to do good or evil, and God won't get in his way. Satan can tempt all he wants, but it is humans who make the decisions. When priests and other clergymen choose to do evil, they are judged much more harshly by the human world than are other people who choose to do evil. It's hard to know how God will judge them, since He doesn't tell us on a case-by-case basis what's on His Mind.

  • Posted By: elisa32 @ 12/05/2007 1:19:29 PM

    I think it is a good idea, but that won't change the damage that has been done or make people that have separated themselves from the catholic religion, like myself, change their minds. Priests that abuse children, being probably the biggest problem for the catholic religion, is not the only problem.

  • Posted By: Rizor @ 12/02/2007 3:36:58 PM

    Of course it's the child's responsibility to make sure they are never alone with an adult. I think its the adult's responsibility not ton put themselves in that kind of compromising situation......

    • Posted By: Nancy Campbell @ 12/04/2007 8:22:02 PM

      It's the parent's responsibility to make sure their child is never alone with an adult. To put the responsibility on the adult leaves the abusers free rein. I agree adults who don't want to commit these crimes or be accused of them should ensure they are never alone with a child.

  • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/04/2007 2:49:46 PM


    The idea that ANYONE would permit a dialogue between a child, and representatives of this organization is child abuse of unbelievable proportions. It is the equivalent of taking a child to a NAMBLA convention! Recognize it is not the deviants I most violently object to, it is the money changers who prostituted toddlers to avoid scandal. Mental illness in the form of pedophilia is complex and best left to doctors, but perjury, conspiracy and complicity in the rape of children by a multi-billion dollar glorified ponzi scheme is unacceptable. These men who where aware and did nothing need to be held accountable. Anyone who has a clue about victimization should realize that the majority of victims never say a word, because these degenerates give them the impression they need to choose between sodomization and eternal damnation. It seems quite reasonable based on available statistics to say that hundreds of thousand and possibly millions of children from the last century have used as sex toys by the pious parasites in this glorified chicken shack. And to top it off, for decades they used donated money from the most ignorant and weak within our society to bribe the victims, bury the scandal and protect these monsters with a taste for young flesh.

  • Posted By: PyretQueen @ 12/04/2007 1:34:51 PM

    How delightfully realistic - but painfully closed-minded. We have to start somewhere, don't we? If this will open a line of communication and dialogue with children, then isn't it wonderful? Clergy are not the only, not the majority of such abusers. Religion is not the root of every problem in the world. All governtments are also corrupt organizations, but I don't see you attacking them. I do agree with you, that organizations who choose to place themselves above the law must be dealt with, and sadly, children are still suffering.

    Thankfully, I, abused by a family friend who had nothing to do with any church, have been able to grow as a person. A priest, and a good man, helped me get away from my abusive husband and rescued me and my children from a life of terror. They're not all bad. Think of the 96% serving and the horror they and their parishes are going through - It's not an all of nothing.

    Support those suffering - and Punish those who break the laws. How hard should that be??

  • Posted By: PyretQueen @ 12/04/2007 1:24:03 PM

    I was abused by my atheist husband, and a priest saved me from it. It's not the group who commits these acts (usually) - it's individuals. Clergy are not the only abusers. Children are being raped as I type this, but not due soley to religious beliefs. I believe in much tougher penalties for crimes, and I vote for them. Until people start taking this seriously, there will be no relief for the suffering.

  • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/04/2007 8:34:30 AM

    How delightfully naive. While I believe your heart is in the right place, trading one omnipitence for another shall do no good. God is a lie perpetuated by people with an agenda. In this case the sodimization of children and the financial exploitation of fools. If this is not obvious by now then their is no reaching any of you. We need to identify the individuals involved and prosecute and imprison them, especially those in the Vatican. Then we need to tax this corrupt organization out of existence. All religions are corrupt to some extent because the concept of divinity leads to corruption (Think absoulute power), but when an organization created of men chooses to place itself above the law it must be crushed for the sake of the children who are STILL being raped as you read this

    Here are some FACTS

    US clerics accused of abuse from 1950-2002: 4,392.
    About 4% of the 109,694 serving during those 52 years.
    Individuals making accusations: 10,667.
    Victims' ages: 5.8% under 7; 16% ages 8-10; 50.9% ages 11-14; 27.3% ages 15-17.
    Victims' gender: 81% male, 19% female
    Duration of abuse: Among victims, 38.4% said all incidents occurred within one year; 21.8% said one to two years; 28%, two to four years; 11.8% longer.
    Victims per priest: 55.7% with one victim; 26.9% with two or three; 13.9% with four to nine; 3.5% with 10 or more Abuse locations: 40.9% at priest's residence; 16.3% in church; 42.8% elsewhere.
    Known cost to dioceses and religious orders: $572,507,094 (does not include the $85 million Boston settlement and other expenses after research was concluded). (Hartford Courant, 2/27/04) It should be noted that 30% of all accusations were not investigated as they were deemed unsubstantiated or because the accused priest is dead.

  • Posted By: cowboy_at_the_falls @ 12/03/2007 5:50:40 PM

    "The only problem in the world today is that we have lost the ability to look upon our fellow human beings and see the face of God." - Karol Jakowski, The Silence We Keep: A Nun's View of the Catholic Priest Scandal

  • Posted By: cowboy_at_the_falls @ 12/03/2007 5:48:12 PM

    "The only problem in the world today is that we have lost the ability to look upon our fellow human beings, and see the face of God.." - The Silence We Keep: A Nun's View of the Catholic Priest Scandal by Karol Jackowski

  • Posted By: rolandovillones @ 12/02/2007 7:02:21 AM

    Priests are also humans subject to the same weaknesses and concupiscences that the rest of humanity have to contend with. A reading of the lives of the saints instruct us that the struggle they underwent last up to their last breath.A strong spiritual life, mortification and other religious practices HELP them contain their weaknesses. We, too, with our prayers can help them succeed in their daily struggle as they help ours. Making our young people realize this truth could help them maintain a respectful and healthy relationship with those who devote their lives for our edification. They know that they need our prayers and understanding. Let us be generous to them.

    • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/03/2007 11:33:24 AM

      Glad the prayer helped the saints, bug how come the prayers of the children who where being raped where ignored by your god?

  • Posted By: the tree @ 12/03/2007 10:09:10 AM

    One local priest complained recently that the "pro-gay" law that was passed in this border state of Coahuila, MX., had brought the "wrath of God" onto the communtiy in the form of 2 F-4 tornadoes 0n 4-24-07 killing 100+. As I read the article in the local paper, I could'nt help but believe that his "Pious Spin" was really rooted in the fact that now the field of competition had been broadened by passage of the same law.

  • Posted By: boog81 @ 12/02/2007 4:50:45 PM

    Priests arent the only ones molesting. Teachers, parents, relatives, family friends, counselors can all be molesters, just read the news. Teaching children to be alert of all adults wont cause them too much harm it makes them be aware of their surroundings so that they dont end up being victims. We all know molesation doesnt just happen in the church, it happens everywhere. Just look at all the school teachers that are in the news for molesting students. Or does that nbot count?

    • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/03/2007 8:16:45 AM

      Yes, but few children are brainwashed into believing lay people have a divine relationship with God. Shameful really but the priesthood is the PERFECT hunting ground for pedophiles

  • Posted By: tomtom @ 12/03/2007 7:02:32 AM

    Cole Black: Windfall for some? You are not very specific, so I must assume you mean that therapists who treat abused children,often for many years, enjoy a " windfall". After all, if the priests did not molest the youngsters , there are that many less children to treat. So, yes, therapists do enjoy a windfall. Is this what you had in mind?

  • Posted By: Jake Lippschittz @ 12/02/2007 8:14:43 PM

    This is probably the lamest and stupidest idea to come from a church trying to cover it's collective butt, that I have seen. Let's just shift the responsibility .... OK, now we got 'em (Now it's THEIR fault if they let us do it!). boog81 you're an idiot. This is not a school book. Dope.

    • Posted By: boog81 @ 12/02/2007 11:10:21 PM

      no need for name calling. children should be aware of their surroundings. they're not shifting responsiblity they are trying to prevent it from happening again. nobody's going to tell these kids hey its your fault you put yourself in that position. they telling them to make sure someone knows who they are with just like parents make sure who theyre kids go out with. or are parents to blame when they're kids get hurt while hanging out with friens?

  • Posted By: butterfly6da @ 12/02/2007 9:30:09 PM

    I think this is nothing but a bunch of bull! It is NEVER the childs fault if a sicko adult man has those kinds of urges. DO NOT BLAME OR MAKE THE CHILD THINK THEY ARE NEVER SAFE. Since this has come open to the public about this scandal, I lost total respect for the catholic religion and the priests. GOD is NOT religion! GOD is love and kindness and would never hurt a innocent child.

  • Posted By: Cole Black @ 12/02/2007 6:50:26 PM

    Parents first should always be the first educator of children. Also, this scandal has also been a windfall for some.

  • Posted By: blip @ 12/02/2007 5:41:13 PM

    For that coloring book to make sense, it would have to warn against not generic adults, but against Catholic priests.

    Further, it is abominable that an organization that has been found to protect pedophiles warns the victims, in effect, to watch out for itself, but makes no substantive changes to its policies. "Yes, we're going to rape you and cover it up: here's how to help prevent that."

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