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I am dismayed that so much anger is present here, but so few seem to be offering actual suggestions.
I for one hearken back to the likes of Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan, not because I supported their positions, but primarily because I felt within them a passion for change that has long since disappeared.
Somehow today's black leaders seem like caricatures of the past and although I never thought I might happen again, I am beginning to feel that the bright future of young American blacks is slipping away from them.
Unless change occurs, and occurs soon, today's youngsters will face the same destinies that where once common in the 1970's
If the culture can not find the courage to reject the false role models that professional athletes and musicians offer they will see several more failed generations, and all the efforts of the pioneers in the civil rights movement shall have been wasted.
As I am reading these comments I begin to realize what a sick, sad world we live in. Many of the comments that have been posted do not have anything to do with the Newsweek article! Nothing in this world will ever change as long as there are people who have some of the views that I have heard expressed in response to this article. Anyone who is raising children right now should be afraid, very afraid of the types of people, views and opinions that our poor children will have to encounter in life. Anytime a man being killed in his own home can spark discussions like the ones that I have read, it truly serves as a wake-up call for me. Another thing that I have realized is that there are way too many hateful people with way too much time on their hands!
I am done with this site. Obviously everybody blames black people even the blacks who BTW are not considered uncle tom's. The article wasn't even about all of this craziness that was posted on here. Just blame the black man for everything: global warming, the Holocaust, the war, the gas prices, Hurricane Katrina, just blame us for everything why don't you? Somehow I know that we had something to do with everything wrong in this world. Even though according to some of the posts we are on welfare. Yeah we have that much power in this world.
I am sure that you are referring to the much younger generation of black people. I don't think that speaking correct English is "white", but what I do believe is that there are some black people who follow the negative stereotype and look down on all black people. There are some who hate black people and they are black themselves. I have had black people tell me that they hate black people. Why is that? Because they follow the same idiotic vision that a lot of white people have about black people. No matter what good someone black does, when one black person messes up, then all of a sudden ALL black people are thugs or ghetto. I am a BLACK WOMAN with a BS in Computer Science. I may have had problems with black people and that negative thinking, but it was nothing compared to the way I was treated by a white person.
D. Affiliated please stop whining about how you were "ostracized" by women (I'm guessing black women). I suppose you are going to get on here and complain about the black woman and how they would prefer to date someone else. Just like all blacks could help by changing their perception of blackness, you could also change your selection of what type of woman you are attracted to. Maybe you are attracted to the wrong type of woman. Tell me what type of women are you dating now?
i absolutely agree. i live this world of split cultures and racism within one's own race day to day. i have been to college and am from the streets so i do see it from both sides. i wanna know whenit became mandatory you had to be "thugged out" to be a black man. it is a terrible situation because it's sensitive to discuss with either side of the spectrum. selling out to me, is not educating yourself and your people. selling out is selling crack to pregnant black women. truthfully, selling drugs at all is selling out whether you're white or black. now this is coming from a gentleman who has conspiracy convictions on my record AND just as many years in college under my belt. so hate it or love it i see it everyday. seriously...WHEN did speaking clearly be considered speaking "white"? i guess martin luther king was white then because he damn sure didn't speak the so called "black" way.
I had no idea that there were still so many racists in this country until I started reading message boards on the Internet. Anyway, racism does continue to be a serious problem, but ultimately, blacks' perception of ourselves is the biggest impediment to our progress. Why is that so many blacks think that any attempt at intellectual prowess is acting white and that being hard and being gangsta is acting black? I am a 29 year old black male and I, like someone else mentioned earlier, had to travel a lonely and ostracized road (the ostracization came mostly from women actually--I never hear this brought up in the media) for not accepting the asinine conception of blackness that's embraced by so many of my peers. If we'd change our outlook and our approach, then our situation would change. We need to start ostracizing criminals and those that think underachievement is something to be proud of.
Brilliant! It only begs the asking of one question, It appears to succeed in black culture requires one to escape from black culture. I am reminded of Woody Allen saying any club that would have me isn't worth joining.
I hope you have luck on your journey, but as a middle age wealthy white man I agree that the deck is stacked against you, both by my culture, and your own.
I'm just wondering...at what point do we get to stop referring to them as "African American". Black does not make you African! Ok fine, I insist from now on that for political correctness sake that I be referred to as German American. After all, what are we with out a label to live up to?? Hmmm, there's an idea. Drop the label and carve your own path in history and stop crying about the past.
The thug mentality here in the U.S. is largely a luxury born from the moral decay of decades of goverment subsidized dysfunction. In the U.S., you have to invent ways to stay poor beyond one generation. This is not South Africa, or Brazil, where unaplogetic governments and societies truly offer poor black males very little or no chance to succeed. Here you have to be proactive, and do things like intentionally becoming a single parent when you yourself are unskilled and undereducated, and purposely selecting mates who are unskilled and undereducated. If these choices led to where they ought to, instead of section 8 and other government programs designed to perpetuate this holocaust on the black urban poor, Darwinism would would take care of much of this "thug mentality" problem.
Here is a very brief list of the contributions of African-American people:
Disposable Syringe: Phil Brooks, Pencil Sharpener: John L. Love, Home Security System: Marie Brown, Pacemaker, Otis Boykin, Traffic Signal: Garrett Morgan, Heating Furnace: Alice H. Parker, Urinalysis Machine: Dewey Sanderson, Refrigerator: J. Standard, Helicopter: Paul E. Williams, Cell Phone: Henry Sampson.
Wow! What a drain African-Americans have been, but I am sure that biggots like you will always try to make yourselves feel superior with such lame and ignorant statements.
The AIDS issue: again you are wrong: Medical experts in the field of infectious diseases say that the virus was around as early as 1919 and a white man, a merchant sailor, is believed to be the first documented case of AIDS.
An African-American woman has proven you to be ignorant and to be a biggot.
I hate traffic signals! :-)
A pencil sharpener,Trafic signal, A refrigerator. A home security system to keep you out. Get real Put a man on the moon or develope a space station then flap your big lips.
Tanner: You would be the life of the party at an NAACP New Year's Bash! You would open your mouth, spill your guts, then run for your life to the nearest door! It would be too funny! LOL
Wow! So all of these achievements mean nothing. Interesting. There would be no man on the moon without the the achievements of African-American people. You too, need to learn how to spell.
I am an African American woman. You are not. Yes we have no dispute. We are bigots as you put it . Bigots because we do not accept the crap that you put out here and that makes you furious.. Things are changing in America. You can not stand this. Learn how to spell.
Tanner you would make a wonderful guest at a NAACP New Years Party! It would be funny to listen to you, then watch you run for your life after you open your mouth and spill your guts to them!
Interesting. I post facts only for them to be called crap. That is the only way a truly racist person can justify that horrible position. I don't wase my energy or emotions on racist ignorant people. I post the truth and that makes you furious. People like you will never see the truth and will never stop hating, which can be clearly seen by your posts. Truly sad.
Why is it you and Bizness chic dodge the obvious. No good person would argue that there has been incredible merit from all races in society. Its the counter-culture that makes it "cool" to be a looser that you need to fight. Would any of the inventors you mentioned above call people names like BiznessChic has? Why can't you address that? Why cant you respond to the comments that RAP music encourages the downward spiral of society? Do you think any of the people you mentioned above would think it was cool to spell Business BIZNESS or call themseves CHICS???
*would argue that there has not been
Many of these inventors did indeed call people names and stood up for inequalities that make it hard for people like them to go to school, get an education, and get deserving jobs in their fields. Rap music is purchased by more white children than black ones. Not so long ago people thought rock and roll music was responsible for the downfall of society. Rock and roll also denigrates women, making them a sexual object and glorifies behavior that is seen as negative in society as well. This is the same argument that will be going on long after this story fades from the headlines. If Bizness wants to call herself chick, it is her right to do so, and you can't alter her position.
Here we go again....Sean Taylor's death is symptomatic and routine for what ails us. .Lets be real about this, as black people. We want to have this view of ourselves as the this socially misjudged race, when in fact, we won freedom long ago and misused it. Yes, I said it. Some of it strove to do things the right way, follow the path, and do whats right, rich or poor. Others of us have chosen the easy wrong over the hard right decision. These choices defy class or economic status. When I was growing up, unmarried pegnancy and the Gangsta" life were stigmatized by low income blacks. As a child, I was not allowed to associate with people who followed these paths, and trust me, we were far from rich. Today it seems that black parents dont hold to the firm hand they once weilded, and in some cases turn a blind eye to their childrens activities (thereby endorcing it). When i walk down a dark street at night, I am not afraid of some white guy robbing or killing me, but a young black male. Racism aside (and it still exists), its an excuse, just an excuse, among the thousands we use for being screwed up as a group of people. We attack one another for not thinking in lockstep, and basically apply responsibility for the entire race on those who have succeeded. Politically, we let the white media dictate who our leaders are (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson etal), when most blacks cannot identify with them. This guy, like so many other famous blk males, made it, but couldnt escape the "keeping it real" attitude of blks, and devoid himself of thugs and their associates. I dont care if his father is a cop, a minister, or whatever, he was an adult, whose lifestyle and associations played a tragic part in his death. To those who blame rap music and media for the blk child ills, you folks have too much time on your hand. I watched the roadrunner as a child, but never thought that any pain I may have inflicted was glamorous. Its an excuse, plain and simple. If you dont teach your child to separate fiction from reality and to have a concious, then you are a poor parent. As the father of 3 younf blk males, I seldom filtered what they could see or hear, but made sure and questioned what they learned from it. as adults, I was sure they would see and hear much worse, so turning off and tuning out is NOT the answer. Basically, be responsible for your children blk people, as adults, that teaching will carry them a long way. As adults, they will stumble, but, I find that children as adults fall back to how they were raised. Do it right, and hope for the best.
A Stanley
Fredericksburg, VA
Thank you Mr. Stanley! We need more reasonable voices in our communities!!!! Unfortunately, if you don't scream "racism" your words go unnoticed.
Obviously, Mr. Taylor's death was unfortunate. I was not sure where you were going with your article but you really turned it around for me. The reality is that he did have some troubles in his life and that is news - for better or worse . The media's portrayal of Mr. Taylor will not affect me one bit. I pray his family and girlfriend find peace out of this tragedy.
For all the posters out there, instead of being so negative and spouting statistics (which are probably accurate), get out there and ask the right question like what can I do to make things better so there is no perception of the "black gangsta". I bet you can't answer that question. Honestly, I can't either.
I am not a Sharpton fan, but what Raina wrote makes sense. So I ask those reading this, stop projecting blame on others or convincing others to do the same, ask the right questions. Let's get over ourselves so we can progress in this society. It is getting old and as another poster stated "self-defeating". If we keep this up, latino americans (with or without legal immigration) are going to continue surpassing us economically, socially and politically because we can't seem to get over the idea that someone owes us something and we won't assimilate into mainstream because we'd be acting a certain way. We can either recognize this lace up our boots and get it together or just add lationos to the list of folks who are oppressing us - holding us back.
By the way, I am a black attorney, married for 14 years and have three kids who make straight A's (who have been teased because they are so smart - by other African Americans - never white or latino). I did not grow up in a wealthy family, as a matter of fact, right now my mother has a job making $9.37 per hour - she's 55 - had has worked for the same company for over 20 years and my father is a construction worker and will probably work until the day he dies. So no life of privilege here.
Hard work and not placing blame does the body and mind good. Stop placing blame, our youths buy into it...Ask the right questions...Move forward.... Have faith.
Peace be with you.
amen, and God Bless You, lobofan
I just completed reading many of the posted comments. One of the things that bothers me about this type of story is the comment section. A lot of arguing occurs, a lot of insults and racism gets tossed around between people. And nothing gets solved by the responders.
I would like to challenge my brothers to get busy in their respective communities. We have a problem that we are going to have to work on. We have our children lives to save. If the current system is not of the mindset to do so. Shouldn't we be the ones who step up in that role?
It is due time for the adults to show a different style of leadership. There is a real need to apply the African principles that never seem to be raised in a discussion like this.
These types of articles will continue to be published as long as we are not moving towards a solution.
It makes no sense in this century to spend a lot of time aruging about the root causes of racism. Our sons and our daughters are dying. If we really believe that they are worth saving~we need to be about the business of helping to set that foundation.
It is easy to sit and point out all the ills of this society. It is also easy to sit back and wait on someone else to work on solutions. Meanwhile our children are dying. That is one hell of a price to pay for inactivity.
It is time for us to step up and be about our collective business.
WOW! mswhyte -- finally a voice of REASON!!! Moving towards a solution rather than placing blame at someone else's doorstep. What a breath of fresh air. Thank you!!!
While I could argue on both sides of this article, and the related issues it raises, I have decided instead to ask a few questions of the group in hopes of hearing all the different sides.
Why do blacks seem to support institutions that betray their interests?
Why haven't they learned to pool their economic resources to demand change?
Why haven't they succeded in controling the self destructive elements within theri own ranks?
Why do they seem to value athletic prowess over intellectual prowess?
Why have blacks elected to handle the mantle of honor that belonged to MLK over to the likes of Al Sharpton?
Where is the unity amongst them? Don't they see without unity they can have no power?
Because, William, we're too busy blaming racism for all our problems. WAAAAAAAAA! Bunch of sad little crybabies!!!!
African Americans need to stop crying over the past, and start planning for the future. I'm sick to death of hearing a brother or sister cry "racism" everytime they don't get their way. Be a man! Be a woman! Quit crying over some perceived slight. Suck it up, make your own way. Quit using the color of your skin as a crutch!
Where is it written that middle class son's of police chiefs can't be ganstas?
In actuality, thugs use intimidation, manipulation and mis-information to extort -- all types of resources. Be care Newsweek, one would think there are some closet thugs without their pointed hoods, writing articles about things they themselves have maybe and possibly never had to experience. Lets not fall into the revisionist trap. Africans got to this hemisphere under the most thuggish schemes in history. Hmmm.
Yes Historian365, you are right. Africans came into this hemisphere under the most thuggish schemes......Africans themselves sold there own kind to the white man....that is thuggish commerce!!
I am amazed by the number of African Americans on here who point fingers at others for our problems. If there's problems in our communities, they are OUR problems. We created the neighborhoods we live it. We have to clean them up. History won't fix us. White people won't fix us, and blaming our skin color won't fix us. We need real action. And we need it NOW!
Yep, that's it, blame the "man" for creating negatvie black images and stereotypes. Don't try to clean up the streets and turn in the real "ganstas." Play the blame game. Point fingers at someone else. Never mind that God-fearing, honest, African American communities live in fear of the bad element that rules their streets and holds them hostage, and makes them afraid to testify in court. It's all a lie foisted on us by image makers. Until we accept responsibility for what we have become, there will continue to be stories like Sean Taylor's dominating the news. Stop pointing fingers at someone else for our problems, and start looking in the mirror.
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