Fighting Words

Hillary has demonstrated that when the chips are down her dark furious side of hidden agendas flowers forth. You do not need a psych degree that she still harbors deep resentment at her husband for his years of running around with women that has shamed her privately and publickly.It shows in her face and especially her demeanor under stress. It is not the fault of the American voter that she didbt do the right thing and divorce him and noone gives her credit for staying in that shame of a marriage.
Becoming President is NOT Hillarys reward for putting up with Bill. The country needs and deserves a mature strong emotionally under control candidate. It obviously isnt Hillary

There is something I have never quite inderstood about Hillary's claim to fame being all the great economic things that happened during the Clinton years, and how those years were so great for the middle class. I guess people have simply conveniently overlooked the fact that Enron, Worldcom and IPO Securities Fraud and stock option backdating activities all took place under the Clintons' watch. As a result of the failures of the Clinton administration to properly prompt the SEC and other regulators to check these excesses, or to force Congress to enact legislation that would ensure small investors (who were also workers at such companies) did not have all their eggs in one basket, millions of middle income americans lost not only their jobs but literally billions of dollars they had invested for their retirement; jobs and retirement money they will probably never recover. With that kind of track record in management experience, understanding of economic forces, and leadership ability on important issues, is Sen. Clinton really the one to lead us in the global economy and protect the economic future of the middle class in this country? Of course we wont trully know her role in those failures as the Clinton library has made sure documents concerning her real role in decision making during the Clinton years will not be accessible until AFTER the election.

Sen. Clinton had my vote until she attacked Sen. Obama. It is not the type of politics I want to be associated with.

I agree with you that the candidates are starting to feel the heat and have stepped up their attacks. The competition is so intense that these candidates are fighting "punch" for "punch". Hillary Clintorn has proven time and time again that she can handle adversity( Bill Crisis) and still make successful decisions. Personally I think she is "battle tested" and has proven she can lead. However she is a very polarizing figure for reasons I think are frivilous and without merit. It is this polarization along with her vote on Iraq that has given the Obama campaign life. Obama's argument is that he can UNIFY different factions for the common good and that his experience as a Senator has proven that he is up too the task. Hillary's argument is that Barak is dreaming and he could never implement what he is proposing. It's getting down to crunch time and "Hillary and her people know what to do". It looks like a Hillary /Biden ticket. On the Republican side I think Nick Romney will probally end up winning that nomination. It is sad but true. When candidates gets too nasty it does not make them look good. People with big ego's always react the worst. It makes them look bad just ask Howard Dean. I think the longer Obama stays in the lead the faster the Clinton camp will due a "job" on him.

Interesting. I think Hillary made some good points. Most notably, when she mentioned that herself(Hillary Clinton), Bill Richardson, Dodd and Biden have been making decisions that affect this country for a long time. She's good at it. Another tremendous point she made is that you cannot learn to be President through a book, you need experience in the "trenches".It's like becoming a General without ever serving in the army. We need to give Richardson some credit, he is very intelligent and is a solutions oriented person, he is able to bring factions together and provide solutions. He has proven that in New Mexico and he was a star member in the Clinton administration. I also like his persona, he's cool, gentlemen like. He would make a great Vice President. Another facinating point that was mentioned was bloodlines. Bloodlines are very important in American Society. It detemines which fraternity you belong too. This is why the rise of Bill Clinton was so impressive, he did not come from the "traditional fraternity". Look at Kerry, Gore, Bush, Kennedy these are all people who come from powerful fraternities. Clinton was able to play his way in; Amazing I do not think that has ever been done. Unfrotunately, the heirarchy of fraternities is a secret world and therefore is subject to a lot of conspiracy theories some have merit some do not. We will never know because the information that way we have access too is limited. A big reason Bush became President was he was able to "milk" these fraternities for unprecendented amounts of money. If you do not come from a fraternity it is difficult to compete; you end up being like Guilliani and end up "selling" your soul for money. What choice do you have. No money, no penetration, no access to the Presidency.

Those good points you refer to seem like bad points to me. She always says she's been fighting for healthcare for 15 years. She says she been fightining republicans and winning all that time as well. Where is the healthcare or the fruits from these wins? 15 years proved not long enough, is 4-8 more going to do it? I would have to say no and I'll use her words to prove it. "I'd rather be fighting republicans." That fight signals the very gridlock we know and can continue to expect from Washington.. Will it be more effective to make real change actually happen if the President is respected and not loathed by the side across the aisle? And one more thing, on this grade school paper, if a young bi-racial boy decided he wanted to be President, it proves to me that by even having the thought, he is someone that is of the first generation that may be able to transcend the racial bickering that has brought about some of our greatest division and blocked any hope of true and complete change for the common good of all Americans. It also shows me that regardless of how many perceived strikes Obama may have had against him, he is at the cusp of realizing his vision, accomplishing what he set out to do on his own merits, by hard work and dedication to a noble cause, not the coat tails of someone else's accomplishments. That is a guy I can trust will follow his dream and make it a reality. Fortunately for us, his dream should be our dream, a unified America striving to better our reputation in the world and make us safer, an America yearning for a better life for our next generation, an America leading by deed and example, an America where everyone can have a purpose in rebuilding our legacy, an America where education and healthcare is not a crap-shoot if you are not in the top 10% of the financial columns. If you can't rally more than 51% of America at most on any issue, in four years we will be debating the next candidate of change. Gas will be over $6.00 a gallon, the toll in Iraq and maybe Iran will be quadruple plus of what it is now, your house will be foreclosed on, your unexpected operation will devastate the finances of your family and your children are going to be left behind in the global economy because they are less educated than the competition. Let's just hope that "Voter's do learns" and take hold of the opportunity that we have right now. Obama '08

Those good points you refer to seem like bad points to me. She always says she's been fighting for healthcare for 15 years. She says she been fightining republicans and winning all that time as well. Where is the healthcare or the fruits from these wins? 15 years proved not long enough, is 4-8 more going to do it? I would have to say no and I'll use her words to prove it. "I'd rather be fighting republicans." That fight signals the very gridlock we know and can continue to expect from Washington.. Will it be more effective to make real change actually happen if the President is respected and not loathed by the side across the aisle? And one more thing, on this grade school paper, if a young bi-racial boy decided he wanted to be President, it proves to me that by even having the thought, he is someone that is of the first generation that may be able to transcend the racial bickering that has brought about some of our greatest division and blocked any hope of true and complete change for the common good of all Americans. It also shows me that regardless of how many perceived strikes Obama may have had against him, he is at the cusp of realizing his vision, accomplishing what he set out to do on his own merits, by hard work and dedication to a noble cause, not the coat tails of someone else's accomplishments. That is a guy I can trust will follow his dream and make it a reality. Fortunately for us, his dream should be our dream, a unified America striving to better our reputation in the world and make us safer, an America yearning for a better life for our next generation, an America leading by deed and example, an America where everyone can have a purpose in rebuilding our legacy, an America where education and healthcare is not a crap-shoot if you are not in the top 10% of the financial columns. If you can't rally more than 51% of America at most on any issue, in four years we will be debating the next candidate of change. Gas will be over $6.00 a gallon, the toll in Iraq and maybe Iran will be quadruple plus of what it is now, your house will be foreclosed on, your unexpected operation will devastate the finances of your family and your children are going to be left behind in the global economy because they are less educated than the competition. Let's just hope that "Voter's do learns" and take hold of the opportunity that we have right now. Obama '08

I think Hillary made some good points. Most notably, when she mentioned that herself(Hillary Clinton), Bill Richardson, Dodd and Biden have been making decisions that affect this country for a long time. She's good at it. Another tremendous point she made is that you cannot learn to be President through a book, you need experience in the "trenches".It's like becoming a General without ever serving in the army. We need to give Richardson some credit, he is very intelligent and is a solutions oriented person, he is able to bring factions together and provide solutions. He has proven that in New Mexico and he was a star member in the Clinton administration. I also like his persona, he's cool, gentlemen like. He would make a great Vice President. Another facinating point that was mentioned was bloodlines. Bloodlines are very important in American Society. It detemines which fraternity you belong too. This is why the rise of Bill Clinton was so impressive, he did not come from the "traditional fraternity". Look at Kerry, Gore, Bush, Kennedy these are all people who come from powerful fraternities. Clinton was able to play his way in; Amazing I do not think that has ever been done. Unfrotunately, the heirarchy of fraternities is a secret world and therefore is subject to a lot of conspiracy theories some have merit some do not. We will never know because the information that way we have access too is limited. A big reason Bush became President was he was able to "milk" these fraternities for unprecendented amounts of money. If you do not come from a fraternity it is difficult to compete; you end up being like Guilliani and end up "selling" your soul for money. What choice do you have. No money, no penetration, no access to the Presidency.

Why indeed is Hillary, the --picture perfect campaigner -- suddenly making such an obvious misstep as "too harshly going negative on Obama's character?" Thereby giving voice to an all too human frustration and anger with the Tefloned and saintly appearing Obama who is poised to snatch the Iowa prize from her. Could the strategy be that Hillary should be seen as a flawed human being, who sometimes gives way to human emotion and in the heat of campaign battle can even make a glaring misstep --just like the rest of us humans. After all, there is enough time before January 3 to say, I???m sorry. And, we all know everybody loves a repenting sinner. Question is, is she a flawed human being who needs forgiveness for real, or is this another coldy calculated campaign ploy?

This reminds me of the line of mainstream gossips-- er pundits, who always see the next political development, as "good news for Republicans." MSNBC and this organ were practically begging Obama to go negative on Hillary. Matthews and Russert have jumped in as apparent members of the Obama campaign. But when Hillary hits back, it's "risky." Why? The man, and Newsweek and MSNBC, have been lying about her. She's learned the lesson of the old War Room, remember? You let something sit out there for too long and people think it's true. So, now she hits back, and Jon Alter gets a case of the vapors.

Same ol' Hilary the political pro. She's wanted to be close to the power position or in it since she was in the womb.

"Anus"

What is with this lovefest for Obama. Why is it he can attack her but she cannot respond. How about the fact that its true that this guy always ducks rather then leads. teflon..are yoiu kidding me. I thought Newsweeks job was to hold ALL candidates accountable.

The problem with Hillary is that she always sounds calculating. I don't feel like she speaks from the heart. If she focused on what really mattered to her, then may be I'd pay attention to her. But by attacking Obama, she ends up not talking about herself and what she thinks can accomplish for this country. She is just giving Obama a chance to make her look stupid. Obama, on the other hand, always sounds genuine and seems to be listening to the voters. He says a lot of the stuff that i've been thinking. Hillary might want to call him "naive," but I think most of what he says makes sense and that he will bring back hope and respect to our country.

Does Obama have the skill to overcome gridlock if elected. The facts are that Obama has recieved support from Republicans in Iowa. And we all know what the Republican party thinks of Hillary Clinton. This is actually and advantage for Obama he can say that Hillary and the Republicans have been unbale to work together in the past especially on health care(1994). Working with Republican in New York is quite different than working with Republicans on a national level. Obama can ease gridlcock. Hillary needs to constantly remind people that she never forgets and that she can improve people's lives.

Excellent commentary. I agree with you that the candidates are starting to feel the heat and have stepped up their attacks. The competition is so intense that these candidates are fighting "punch" for "punch". Hillary Clintorn has proven time and time again that she can handle adversity( Bill Crisis) and still make successful decisions. Personally I think she is "battle tested" and has proven she can lead. However she is a very polarizing figure for reasons I think are frivilous and without merit. It is this polarization along with her vote on Iraq that has given the Obama campaign life. Obama's argument is that he can UNIFY different factions for the common good and that his experience as a Senator has proven that he is up too the task. Hillary's argument is that Barak is dreaming and he could never implement what he is proposing. It's getting down to crunch time and "Hillary and her people know what to do". It looks like a Hillary /Biden ticket. On the Republican side I think Nick Romney will probally end up winning that nomination. It is sad but true. When candidates gets too nasty it does not make them look good. People with big ego's always react the worst. It makes them look bad just ask Howard Dean. I think the longer Obama stays in the lead the faster the Clinton camp will due a "job" on him.