At last, intel agencies seem to be on the right track about Iran's nuke program. Inside the latest assessment.
Comment: 'It's tough when you've been a president with a faith-based foreign policy and the facts get in the way. ' Beautiful!
Comment: Do you know that 80% of the world's capital is owned by 12 families. They already run the world through organizations like the Paris Club; who inturn fund the IMF and World Bank. Look at the power oil companies have on the world. You are confusing conspiracy with reality. But thank you for your commentary EUB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft_family-If you go to this website or url, you will notice the development of the Taft family one of the most poweful families in America. Along with a few other families, they were able to establish a number of fraternities which contorl both parties political machinery.
Comment: Remember, that George Bush is a Russel Trust member. Research the
Astor Bundy, Collins, DuPont , Freeman, Kennedy Li Onassis Reynolds Rockefeller Rothschild
Russell Van Duyn families.
Bush's fraternity now dominates his administration. You will find no matter who is in power, these fraternities are represented by a family member in any administration CAN ANY of these Candidates Bring these fraternal orders together in order to improve the LIVES OF ALL AMERICANS.
Comment: The Mormon president Ezra Taft Benson (considered a prophet by Mormons) was a fan of the John Birch Society.
The Taft is Heusen???s name is because Ezra Taft Benson is a descendent of Alphonso Taft, who along with one of the Russell family started the Order of the Skulls and BOnes (legally it has been known as Russell Trust). Remember, . Research the
Astor Bundy, Collins, DuPont , Freeman, Kennedy Li Onassis Reynolds Rockefeller Rothschild
Russell Van Duyn families.
"There are many reasons Mormons will not come forth even though they know of the corruption in the Mormon church. One is due to their belief in Mormon scripture which they associate with the Mormon church. The leadership has usurped power and authority over this scripture. Thus, the members of the Mormon church think that God expects them to support their misguided leaders. This is much the - rationalization that many Americans make about our government. They all know of the corruption, but rationalize that it is unpatriotic to talk against the government or ungrateful to complain when they enjoy superficial prosperity."
Comment: i realy admired and enlightened by your article
Comment: To both Republicans and Democrats: A curse on both your houses. We ought to get rid of the CIA and just let you go straight to believing whatever you want to believe without all the parsing and pussyfooting. That's what you've always done anyway. Intelligence is just a one word oxymoron -- whether it applies to gathering information or to how you choose to interpret it.
Comment: All of you liberal "turn our country into europe before world war II people"....Wake up and smell the coffee. Islamic Facism is real; and will someday turn our children's perfect world into ashes; while you sit around and debate over whether they really mean it....
Comment: All of you liberal "turn our country into europe before world war II people"....Wake up and smell the coffee. Islamic Facism is real; and will someday turn our children's perfect world into ashes; while you sit around and debate over whether they really mean it....
Comment: The Bush administration can spin this situation all they want, but the truth is they no longer have the people in place to get the kind of intelligence they want especially when you have an administration bent on regime change in Iraq, Iran and Syria. The intelligence service certainly have had their share of failure, but was it an intelligence failure or political accomodation that led to those failures? Only time will tell what the answer to that question will be.
Comment: In Mr. Bush???s speech the other day, he made comment that he was not informed about Iran any earlier because they were making sure they had the correct information.
Why did he not use the same method when it came to Iraq?
At the time of the invasion, were not the Inspectors still looking for PROOF?
The biggest loose on this matter is not Mr. Bush, it OUR COUINTRY!
Can our Country???s image survive another year of Mr. Bush?
Comment: I know you have thoroughly thought about the consequences, where our country will be and what will become of our families. But provoking more war will only lead to ***. And you know the only people benifiting from it are the ones that are comfortable being in control, and have eaten their share of the plate. Naively thinking that the rest of the people are retarded and that they are all pets. Well when those pets become hungry and want to eat off the plate there is going to be chaos. And its crazy because the public is as "special" as you assume them to be. Society has made it such a taboo to think outside of the box. What is even crazier, is that the smart few, the ones that can truly shape the future, are responsible for this country's suicide. And it is sad to know that the country i love is destroying itself from the inside. ITS LIKE YOUR FATHER HAS LUNG CANCER. AND YOU PUT A CIGARETTE IN HIS MOUTH AND AND LIGHT IT YOURSELF!!!!!!!. And you are tryly pitiful if you take in all the nonsense coming out of mr. dickey's keyboard.
Comment: You cite the CIA as being brave and different now vs. pre Iraq yet they are the ones with the caveats about the NIE report being wrong. Sounds like the kind of cherry picking you accuse your political opponents of (and yes you are a Democrat).
Comment: Mr. Dickey, there's something very dangerous about believing something because you WANT to believe it and the truth. To suddenly believe the U.S. intelligence community after years of failure because you are so invested in seeing Bush humiliated is both perverted and irresponsible.
Get down off your high horse Mr. Dickey and try to actually look at things beyond your 2008 aspirations for a Dem in the White House.
Comment: Anybody Remember Rudy telling Ron Paul he was crazy? Now look the KOOK was right again.
Congressman Paul issued the following statement in response to the report:
???We needlessly and foolishly threaten Iran even though they have no nuclear weapons. I find it incomprehensible that as the failure of our Iraq policy becomes more evident, some want the same kind of policy toward Iran. A policy of peace, trade and diplomacy, is superior.???
The report???s finding that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 supports Congressman Paul???s view that military action against Iran is contrary to American national security. The report found that any Iranian nuclear weapon capability is not imminent, and noted that the State Department???s Bureau of Intelligence and Research judges that Iran is unlikely to have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon before 2013.
???While candidates with virtually zero foreign policy experience like Rudy Giuliani are advocating escalation, Dr. Paul ??? an Air Force veteran and member of the House Foreign Relations Committee ??? has been a staunch opponent of expanding war into Iran,??? said Ron Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. ???More than any other candidate, Ron Paul understands that America cannot afford to make the same mistakes with Iran that were made with Iraq.???
Comment: Remember when they all laughed at Congressman Paul? Do you still think he is crazy?
Congressman Paul issued the following statement in response to the report:
???We needlessly and foolishly threaten Iran even though they have no nuclear weapons. I find it incomprehensible that as the failure of our Iraq policy becomes more evident, some want the same kind of policy toward Iran. A policy of peace, trade and diplomacy, is superior.???
The report???s finding that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 supports Congressman Paul???s view that military action against Iran is contrary to American national security. The report found that any Iranian nuclear weapon capability is not imminent, and noted that the State Department???s Bureau of Intelligence and Research judges that Iran is unlikely to have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon before 2013.
???While candidates with virtually zero foreign policy experience like Rudy Giuliani are advocating escalation, Dr. Paul ??? an Air Force veteran and member of the House Foreign Relations Committee ??? has been a staunch opponent of expanding war into Iran,??? said Ron Paul spokesman Jesse Benton. ???More than any other candidate, Ron Paul understands that America cannot afford to make the same mistakes with Iran that were made with Iraq.???
Comment: You are falling in the same category you claim Bush to be in. You, too, are inclined to hear and accept only a certain version of the story. How sure are you that the intelligence reports about Iraq were not as sincere as these you are now trumpetting about? Do not fool yourself. The truth is that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. The other truth is that Ammadinejad really wanted a nuclear bomb!
Comment: You seem to be as biased as the Bush administration you are trying to paint in bad picture. You too want to hear only what pleases you. And that may not be the truth on the ground, especially as far as Iraq is concerned
Comment: first a war on an adjective should have raised flags everywhere. its a combat tactic not a way of life. Second he had to declare war, due to his deep involvment in Enron and Worldwide ie: Ken Lay, and a sitting president cannot be tried in a court of law during a state of war! go figure it took 7 years to find out what was on CNN in 2003 and told its up to the politicians in a place where they say no, BUT, we kill just for thinking about being 1/235 of Americas nuclear arsonel and counting. what me worry! we own the largest nuclear arsonel in the world, in fact it takes most of the known world to equal ours, as we don't disarm as we signed a treaty stating we would, but hey ask the Indians how many treaties we made good on! Iran, even a nuclear Iran, cannot hit American soil, and that's all we should care about, as we have 80 year old ladies living in the streets, here, at home, to care for FIRST! So now we know what we knew, 2012, and maybe, they might, is not worth a drop of American blood,today, as GW would love to accoplish. Fear is the mind killer, and it's toll is over 4000 American lives taken, and thousands of families broken. When will your own shadow stop scaring you to death!? when all terrorist are dead, is not the right answer, due to one fact. if any country breachs my shores or borders, even if i'm an EX-Marine, and I prefere EX, no rules, and as a terrorist i will make Bin-Lauden look like tinker bell, and so would you!!! Iran has the same right and we don't have the right to say different! Consider how many years old it [Iran] is, and how many times they have been invaded, and remember they are still there! After all is said and done. I'm not interested enough to waste American Blood! So I guess it not an American intrest only Israel is-why without the words God or 3000 years of history just why do we need to bleed for the strongest country in the middle-east and nuclear at that? the mullas and GW have one thing to remember which they have forgot, No one should ever be scared by it's government, the government should be scared of it's people!!!
Comment: If Bush was told in August or September that Iran had halted it's weapons program, and then a month later told the press that a nuclear armed Iran could lead to World War III, was he just not listening to his experts or was he being dishonest....that is...dare I say it.....lying.
There. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Comment: It has been very well documented that much of this report has not been declassified. That said, if the resolution produced is a statement equating to, Iran in the long run will determine whether or not Iran will pursue nuclear weapons, than I view that as a waste of, not only alot a gov employee time, but tax payer money. I'm 19 years old and could have said in a 100 page report, that after much painstaking research and intel, only the Iranians will determine their future in the nuclear arena.
Comment: Before anyone jumps to any conclusions or makes more comments that they are not qualified to have an educated opinion about please keep in mind that this was just the "unclassified," report that leaves out all of the sources and details. There is a much longer report that is issued by the NIC.
I realize that people might not have time to do their own research nor have the desire/capability/resources to do so but it would be a mistake to fault a report that nobody actually reads. While this article gives some analysis of what this author thinks, he too has only read the released "9 page unclassified report."
Comment: what qualifies you to tell me i'm not, been there,meet the people,teach the people to kill or live,eat or break bread with these people, respect there religion,rely on them for your own life, no,well "I'm not at liberty to say" but the people i trust! Like any governemnt, them I don't, but, they to, still remain a renewable source, even in Iran!
Comment: Thought I'd offer a few thoughts on your comments thus far:
1)Love the clear passion you have on the subject, too many are detached and unconcerned about this.
2)Hate the monolithic single paragraph style you've adopted. Separate your points with blank line if you truly want them read, as it makes it considerably easier for a reader's eyes to maintain positioning within the post.
3)Give your post a quick read outloud before submitting, it will dramatically decrease the number of sentences harboring content with indecipherable meaning.
Comment: In reading this article, I find myself in a state of disbelief. This is the point our country is at, a point where 16 of our nations security and intelligence agencies come to the conclusion that, and I quote, "only an Iranian political decision to abandon a nuclear weapons objective would plausibly keep Iran from eventually producing nuclear weapons." WOW is that so, this is the "intelligence" these agencies have to offer?
A sad day when stating the obvious is national news.
Comment: considering it's age as a country i wounder if they [Iran] said the same of us, at the time we did? after all we did drop an atomic on a civilian target to creat fear. i also wounder if this is when they got the fear, and relizied they to might need protection, from us, one day.
Comment: Last comment to think on
NEVER forget, there was not ONE country in the middle-east whos people did not dance in the streets when the WCT fell, NOT ONE, including Israel, Iran, Iraq [who we bleed for today ] and lets not forget the country where the terrorist CAME FROM, SAUDI ARABIA, our friends? None of this counts today, compared to ALL the American blood spent on those who danced, and still bleeding American red on forign soil, where we have no right to make laws we don't have to live by! Ask yourself would you approve of laws passed in Russia, we must live by, or else, cause we are an intrest? What would our intentions be? FREEDOM just like them! I have no intrest in Israel or anyone else over there, till we interfered there was a light but stable peace including Iraq. Yes Hussain was either a just ruler for giving what was given ie: a head for a head, or a madman, who did not have the problems we have there today, he had stability, by terror, but stable none the less! To save an American child from a sure death in Iraq, i'll ride a bike, so oil is not the moving force behind this INVASION. What are you willing to do to remove Iraq, Iran,Israel,Saudi Arabia,Syria and so on as an American intrest, as OIL is our ONLY intrest??? Finaly where is the missing 4 TONS of RX EXPLOSIVES missing from day one, enough explosive to make IEDs, RPGs and so on for 150 years?
Comment: WHAT IS MORE EFFICENT- send solar and wind supplies, which are bought from the US and engineers if needed, rebuild Iran totaly solar and wind powered, no nuclear waste, no nuclear reactor, OR war against 1 million strong, costing hundreds of thousand American lives, and a few TRILLION dollars a day! You chose but only if you have children to lose, cause we all know those who have nothing to lose will always chose war.
Comment: Israel has nukes and long range missles, neither country can come close to our borders and, that, IS ALL that intrest me and by what proof does anyone offer that Israel is not a threat!!! They posses more than Iran and do not reconize a democraticaly elected governments ie: the Hammas? if it [Israel ]were to be toppled stop making folks feel like every Jew will wither and melt, if Israel was taken AGAIN. Iran does not sell weapons to the Chinese aganst the arms bann as Israel does today right under our noses. We will not even allow Iran to go solar or wind, all componets are outlawed! why??? Can anyone in the middle-easty who is from there claim no terrorist connections-no-not after 3000 years of warring with everyone there! Kill for a thought, should only be used for pedifiles and baby killers, not countries, or WE would be the biggest threat world wide! Excuse me we allready are!! Bushs actions prove this!! Sanction Iran on the same day N Korea launchs missles for testing, very close to the coast of Hawaii??? Run the country not rule the world!!! UNTILL THERE ACTIONS SHOW-WE WILL NOT ALLOW ACTIONS! WE KILL FOR A THOUGHT!!
Comment: 1) You can bet that Robert Gates has blown his shot at a Medal of Freedom. They seem to be reserved for CIA heads like George Tenet who knuckle under to political pressure from Blair House.
2) I'm not at all confident that in the long term Iran would ever trade its capacity to develop nuclear weapons for security guarantees. That's because Iran's only imaginable need for nukes -- even with Shia clerical paranoia as a prime directive -- would be offensive, not defensive (e.g. to obliterate Israel once and for all and thereby gain public relations supremacy for itself and Shia Islam throughout the Muslim world).
We can anticipate this will change only if the Musharraf government falls and the US invades Pakistan to prevent its nukes from falling into jihadist hands -- and suddenly Iran finds itself squeezed with US troops and US-dominated governments on its eastern and western borders.
Comment: "Iran's only imaginable need for nukes -- even with Shia clerical paranoia as a prime directive -- would be offensive, not defensive ... "
Now, here's where it really gets interesting, since W's conception of warfare is that a pre-emptive strike is, indeed, a defensive, not an offensive, measure -- and is therefore totally justifiable on any scale you wish to employ.
The only grounds a nation needs is the belief that some other nation may, at some time in the future, represent a genuine threat to Nation A's security or existence. No hard proof is required, since nonbody wants to wait around for the mushroom cloud of absolute proof.
And therefore, since Israel has nukes, they may possibly, at some point in the furure, use them against Iran (or anyone else). Remember, suspicion alone unbacked by hard fact is all that would be required of Israel's supposed intent.
Israel is thus, by BushRules, a likely candidate for a defensive pre-emptive strike!
That's what's in that Pandora's Box W opened -- congratulations, ***-head!
Comment: you really want to put our troops in between warring factions i guess being blown away from all sides never occured to you, or you could care less if we get caught in the middle AGAIN! Did you not learn from history that being in between is the wrong place to be? What an attack from the USA or anyone else who wishs them to be gone from the planet, as we wish today, is not a defensive action? Invaders are not welcome in any country in the middle-east and never followed into battle. Israel lobs nukes into Iran so Iran does not have the right to defend its self, as we will not! If today Israel had more nukes than we do, Iran and all Arab nations would be gone, and we would not be able to stop them, as Israel can NEVER do no wrong EVER! WRONG! Today we can stop them by force, this is the only reason they are not at war with every country over there. They are Gods chosen, so let them fight there own battles, if God will save them, and give them victory, why do they need us to bleed for them?
Comment: One year ago, this same author wrote, with respect to the violence in Baghdad and the surge, that "A few thousand more Americans on the streets aren???t going to change such savage arithmetic."
We didn't know then what would happen with the surge, and we don't know now whether the Iranian on the street will keep a leash on the freak with the halo. I sure didn't hear any outcry when the freak announced that its neighbor oughta be blown off the map.
Comment: The surge did not work, WE, TAUGHT THEM PATIENTS. THEY LIVE THERE, WE DO NOT. THEY HAVE TIME, WE DO NOT. THEY CAN WAIT, WE CANNOT. THEY ARE GOING TO WIN, AFTER 3000 YEARS OF IT THEY KNOW FAR MORE ABOUT THERE OWN SURROUNDINGS THAN WE EVER WILL OR EVEN CARE TO! HOW WOULD YOU ACT IF RUSSIA WAS IN CHARGE OF REBUILDING AMERICA???
Comment: Ok, so Iran stopped their Nuclear arms program in 2003 only after some serious pressure from the Bush Administration and International community. They have since continued to defy UN resolutions, arm and fund the terrorists in the region that are willing to blow up American soldiers, and refuses to "suspend" their nuclear enrichment program in order resume negotiations. In addition their leader calls for Isreael to be wiped off the map, the holocaust a myth, and supports Hamas and Hezbollah. On top of all that the NIE reports that they continue to develop long range ballistic missiles. How can anyone state that they are no longer a threat? Just because they halted their nuclear weapons program does not mean their intent has changed. Until their actions show us their intent is peaceful we must keep up diplomatic and economic pressure.
Comment: And the truth sall bring our boys home from a region we have no reason to stay or even be there! Iraq built it's self at one time and many times more, and they can do it again! without our help taking all there oil money they use to buy supplies and products needed to rebuild there own country with there own people, you know the one thing America WILL NOT do for its self!!
Comment: The past seven years have given us terrorist attacks and wars all based on "flawed intelligence" or "faulty intelligence" or "massive intelligence failures." Is it just a conincidence that George W. Bush Jr. was president at the time?
Comment: Everything is a joke or funny punchline to Huckabee. He has not said one straightforward meaningful thing yet. In all his debates, he has not answered a single question seriously. While I appreciate a sense of humor, I want a straight, serious answer out of Huckabee concerning what he will do about terrorism, foreign policy, healthcare, education or gas prices. Would you trust Colbert or Stewart to be president? This funny guy act is wearing thin.
Comment: Uhh....given the current occupant of the oval office, the two "clearly you can't be serious" candidates you try and negatively associate with Huckabee do not quite convey the sense of ridiculousness you intend.
Comment: Faulty intelligence???go figure. At least we didn't go to war or even have a pre-emptive strike based on this defective information. Imagine if we went to war due to faulty intelligence.
Comment: By gully they (Bush Administration) finally got it as major intelligence agencies put the fact right that Iran does not prove to be a threat to the United States. It took them six and a half year to realize that after making a blunder in Iraq. This article positively distinguished between a botched intelligence by those on the side line in this administration and the real agencies that do so well in analyzing the integrity of intelligence. It is unfortunate that such ideological corrupt people were given the trust of governing this country.
We all hope that from now on a responsible governing body that can bring about a transparent policy toward any state before making a fool itself.
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