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  • Posted By: tom_paine @ 12/06/2007 7:40:52 AM

    The question that one must ask is "When, exactly, did the President receive this assessment?" Because, if he received it in August, as is widely believed, his saber-rattling throughout the Fall is a deliberate falsehood, and likely an impeachable offense.

  • Posted By: American 100% @ 12/05/2007 9:21:16 PM

    amen

    • Posted By: fabby41forlife @ 12/06/2007 4:49:42 AM

      Some of you folks that post comment on this site sound more like the people who they claim hates america. They talk about nuke another nation as if they think it's that easy to kill an entire nation of people at get away scotch free. Just remember america never faught many of the conflicts they get into on their soil. But don't believe it can't happen. No one is safe nowhere on this globe. So you should all stop talking crap about attacking other nations.

  • Posted By: allant9 @ 12/05/2007 10:23:34 PM

    Bush is an idiot ,as a canadian I am constantly worried that our nieghbors not by choice will get us all into a war that none of us should ever have to deal with. I never cross the boarder not even when our dollar is worth more. I have no use for the Americans! I wish they would all stay on there side and leave us decent countries alone and clean up there own mess they have in there own back yard instead of making new ones all over the world. We say God save the Queen I say God get rid of Bush!

    • Posted By: cordeb63 @ 12/05/2007 10:36:35 PM

      If it was not for us Americans, you French would be speaking German. Maybe we should stay in our own country and let you try to fend for yourself.

      • Posted By: leodelaney @ 12/06/2007 12:27:04 AM

        Actually Germany had lost the Second World War when they failed to defeat the British in the Battle of Britain. Once they couldn't cross the channel then the war was all over but the shouting and that was long before the Americans became involved. This is not to degrade the performance of America but all we did was hasten the defeat of Germany and did not save Britain, France or anybody else from the Nazis. The defeat was already in the History books over a year before our arrival (Battle of Britain ended September 1940; US declared war on Germany December 1941).

        • Posted By: fabby41forlife @ 12/06/2007 4:38:41 AM

          I say leave the Canadians alone because most of you americans never seen mayham and destruction at biblical proportion. You drop an atom bomb on Japan and live with the fear of someone dropping it back on you all. Don't fool yourself's what goes around comes around. That we do not know, where and when it will happen. So you all need to quit bragging about what America is, and start figuring out where America is heading. If you are all God fearing and read the bible, it speaks of all the great empires that came and went. And all had there share of people like you all, boastful and full themselves, and all fell to other empire. Take note America is not the world or the saviour of the world you all need to know that.

      • Posted By: t9900 @ 12/05/2007 10:53:54 PM

        No, Hitler was stupid enough that the third Reich would have fallen by 1950. You would be speaking about how great communist is in French, of course while being brainwashed.

    • Posted By: topdollar112 @ 12/05/2007 10:35:34 PM

      You have to be the most ignorant moron or the most idiotic fool i have ever read. By the way, can we send back the traitors? Jimmy Carter can drive the Bus, Free peanuts!!!

      • Posted By: rdenning12 @ 12/05/2007 10:57:08 PM

        Topdollar, using terms like "ignorant moron", "idiotic fool" and "traitor", undermine your argument. Please try to be more civil.

    • Posted By: badgerpack @ 12/05/2007 10:42:43 PM

      You are correct. Bush is an idiot. It is as if he is insisting that the world is flat in the face of evidence from his closest confidants that it is round. However, your comments reveal your own ignorance. You managed to include at least ten spelling or grammatical errors in one small paragraph, and to conclude that all Americans are idiots in lock step with Bush. I have no use for bigoted, small-minded idiots who cannot form a simple sentence. Thank you for not crossing the "boarder".

    • Posted By: cordeb63 @ 12/05/2007 10:40:04 PM

      Glad you dont come south. Sounds like your brain is froze in the stupid mode.

    • Posted By: fireball777 @ 12/05/2007 10:36:43 PM

      You are Canada, the white Mexico. Go milk a moose and leave the discussion to us Big Brother. Keep it safely behind our back like always.

  • Posted By: cnctech @ 12/06/2007 4:00:54 AM

    fvmaster no sir i was speaking to the illiterate bottom feeding liberal match

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 3:58:56 AM

    WE MUST CONTINUE TO POUND AWAY AND FIND SOLUTIONS. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND A CANDIDATES SOLUTION CLEARLY THEN HOW CAN YOU VOTE FOR THEM. THIS REGIME IS A THREAT. IT MUST BE DEALT WITH FROM WITHIN. THE AUTHOR NEEDS TO EMPHASIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE WORRIED THAT THIS REGIME IS NOT RESPONSIBLE AND MUST NEVER BE IN CONTROL OF ANY TYPE OF NUCLEAR PROGRAM. THE FACT THAT IRAN SHOULD KEEP SOME PARTS OF IT"S ARSENAL IS ABSURD, as suggested by the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER. IF YOU WANT PEACE YOU CANNOT GIVE IN TO DICTATORSHIPS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ELECTED. THE SOLUTION IS TO WORK WITH OUR ALLIES AND CUT IRAN OFF and force a REVOLUTION FROM WITHIN. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE TYHE NOBEL PRIZE WINNER THAT CATERS TO THE WILL OF THESE EVIL EMPIRES. WE MUST STAND FIRM AND KEEP OUR EYES ON ALL POTENTIAL THREATS(RUSSIA AND CHINA) NOT JUST SOME> AND CONFRONT THE THREAT HEAD ON. OUR ALLIES WILL RESPECT US IF WE STICK TO OUR WORD NOT FLIP FLOP WITH DICTATORS, and not sell out to the INTEREST IN DUBAI AND SAUDI ARABIA. Unfortunately, our politicians want to confront terrorism, but they do not want to force governments to implement change so the causes of terrorism are eliminated. MONEY IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL IT EVEN CONTROLS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CAUSES THEM TO TURN A BLIND EYE. IF PEOPLE IN THESE COUNTRIES HAD HOPE THEY WOULD NOT BE THREATENING THEIR NEIGHBORS AND DESTABILIZING THE REGION

  • Posted By: fvmaster @ 12/06/2007 3:51:10 AM

    hey CNCTECH ,,,sir i dont know you talking about me or not,,,but i have Bs in nuclear physics and steal i cant work in my own country,,,because there are a lot of things that i should not to know inside,,,,,,,,i hope you feel about,,,,,,,

  • Posted By: cnctech @ 12/06/2007 3:40:29 AM

    match206 I see you capitalized on the fact my typing is vulnerable to criticism. Speaking of (Vulnerable) A vulnerable species such as yourself is a species which is likely to become endangered unless the circumstances threatening its survival and reproduction improve which will never happen to pathetic bottom feeder's like yourself,I think it is so entertaining that you conceder me, somebody that writes ladder logic for cnc machine control's uneducated? Do you have a collage degree? I earned a MBA in electronics engineering, what does a imbecile like yourself do for creative engagement? Do you hold picket's at our soldiers funerals ? Bow to the republicans we may allow you to continue sweeping our streets and inbreeding with the farm animals

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 3:33:13 AM

    IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND A CANDIDATES SOLUTION CLEARLY THEN HOW CAN YOU VOTE FOR THEM. THIS REGIME IS A THREAT. IT MUST BE DEALT WITH FROM WITHIN. THE AUTHOR NEEDS TO EMPHASIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE WORRIED THAT THIS REGIME IS NOT RESPONSIBLE AND MUST NEVER BE IN CONTROL OF ANY TYPE OF NUCLEAR PROGRAM. THE FACT THAT IRAN SHOULD KEEP SOME PARTS OF IT"S ARSENAL IS ABSURD, as suggested by the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER. IF YOU WANT PEACE YOU CANNOT GIVE IN TO DICTATORSHIPS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ELECTED. THE SOLUTION IS TO WORK WITH OUR ALLIES AND CUT IRAN OFF and force a REVOLUTION FROM WITHIN. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE TYHE NOBEL PRIZE WINNER THAT CATERS TO THE WILL OF THESE EVIL EMPIRES. WE MUST STAND FIRM AND KEEP OUR EYES ON ALL POTENTIAL THREATS(RUSSIA AND CHINA) NOT JUST SOME> AND CONFRONT THE THREAT HEAD ON. OUR ALLIES WILL RESPECT US IF WE STICK TO OUR WORD NOT FLIP FLOP WITH DICTATORS, and not sell out to the INTEREST IN DUBAI AND SAUDI ARABIA. Unfortunately, our politicians want to confront terrorism, but they do not want to force governments to implement change so the causes of terrorism are eliminated. MONEY IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL IT EVEN CONTROLS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CAUSES THEM TO TURN A BLIND EYE. IF PEOPLE IN THESE COUNTRIES HAD HOPE THEY WOULD NOT BE THREATENING THEIR NEIGHBORS AND DESTABILIZING THE REGION.

  • Posted By: rrats0966 @ 12/06/2007 12:34:04 AM

    Does this ring a bell? Remember now The reason we have spent almaost 750 BILLION Dollars so far is becuase Iraq had WMD's . Kust like Iran - Does this president offer anything up to the american people other than WAR, WAR, WAR? We can't fund our schools, roads, health care, and a tom of other domestic projects but we have no problem borrowing and spending TRILLIONS of dollars over the last 7 years. This adminstration has been a joke from day one. Thankfully I can at least say I didn't vote for these a$$ holes either time. So tell me america? Do you feel safer now than you did before 9-11?

    • Posted By: PatrioticDreams @ 12/06/2007 3:30:48 AM

      Rats, this administration is a joke, and anyone who thinks otherwise cannot see the forrest from the trees..We were once a world power both militarily and economically...Since Cheney has been in the white house - Our military is deminished - we're resorting back to the idea of a citizen soilder and the U.S. dollar is becoming worthless..It's impossible to go abroad w.o paying an arm and a leg...and that, I can thank this administration for...Although to you little hermits who still believe this country is on the up and up and ahead of the curve - get with the times or move out of the south..its right infront of you, why can't you see it?

    • Posted By: runtshaw @ 12/06/2007 1:30:02 AM

      YES, YES YES YES

      • Posted By: f*ckliberalmedia @ 12/06/2007 2:16:23 AM

        To rratso966: Obviously the school you attended desperately needed funds, the PC's you used must not have been equipped with spell check. You blame the President for so much, but what have the Democrats accomplished for the past year in their majority ran Congress?.............oh thats right nothing!

  • Posted By: why??? @ 12/06/2007 3:27:45 AM

    Is it just me or or did America become the most defenseless and weak nation in the world that we have to jump the gun and attack first? It seems to me that with the defensive weaponry and superior technology that our country has I find it hard to believe that even if any of the middle eastern nations at question were to acquire nuclear weapons that the chances of one of them even making it to U.S. soil is utterly remote at best. The only thing our preempted attacks on other nations, that so far have only appeared to be a danger to us, has done is disrupted our allegiance with the rest of the world. Here we sit now and listen to people praise Bush for making the U.S. a safer country when we are hated by more people now than ever for the actions he and his administration have taken in the past and the now present on these so called threats to society which now has put us in danger with all corners of the world. Some may say well what about 9-11, thats a reason to attack these other nations because that may happen again. Well sorry to say, but when it comes to terrorists attacking a nation and a nation attacking another nation there is no comparison. You are talking about two highly different scenarios. A dangerous nations probablitiy of launching a full or even small scale 'secret' nuclear war on the U.S. without the U.S. knowing it is coming, like a group of terrorists would do if they even had access to nukes, and not being able to defend itself against their attack and counterattack them to the point of extinction is about the same as the threat of saddam hussien coming back from the dead and conquering the U.S. with his so called weapons of mass destruction. I think it would be better for us to let them go ahead and develope their nukes if they dare and see what happens when they decide to try and use them against us or any other nation. I have a feeling that if we had a full allegiance with the rest of the world, unlike the divided allegiance now, that they would not stand much of a chance. If the president really really just wants to get rid of their leader why not just do it the old fashion way and send a single unit with a good sniper or two in there to do the job instead of an entire army and make better use of our army by using them to find more credible threats like terrorists who pose an actual threat to our nations security. Another note also, the whole Godly comments thing should never be brought up with this except to mourn the dead from all of this and pray for the safety of our troops and the safety of our world and our people as a human race. There is no Godly when it comes to war and the power struggle over who is wrong and who is right, because none of it is right or Godly...plain and simple.

  • Posted By: gfwritingservices @ 12/06/2007 2:42:35 AM

    The facts remain facts: Our reason for invading Iraq was to remove Saddam Hussein because he was hiding WMD's. None were found. Our economy is going to hell as we continue to fund this war.

    Iran made it clear from the outset that 1) they did not want a war AND 2)they were not producing WMD's. We never had the proof, like Iraq, that Iran has any such weapons despite all the claims. Now I read this, and I am astonished that anyone can actually support this administration any longer. Bush's strongest supporters will remain the ones with no fear of being drafted to fight in another illegal conflict overseas.


    Our countries fervor over 9/11 led us on a terrorist hunt in the wrong country.

    • Posted By: Carolyn215 @ 12/06/2007 3:08:20 AM

      To understand what is happening in Iran you have to go back a few decades. Back in the 50s, Iran had a democratically elected president who was good for their country. The problem was that he was taking national control over the oil production. The oil companies wanted him out. Our own governemt deposed him and installed the Shah, who was great for the oil companies but terrible for the Iranian people. When the Iranians overthrew the decadent Shah they wanted a return to morality, but most never dreamed how bad things could be under the Ayatollah. But it is also bad for the oil companies. Now they want to get control of all of it. That is what all of this fuss has been about. But they have to hide the truth from the American people, and wrap it in a banner of patriotism. Even 9/11 was staged. There is no way that planes hitting the buildings could have caused the towers to fall. Jet fuel simply does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel. The buildings were brought down by controlled demoltion. The whole thing was an inside job to decieve the American people, to get them to buy into the big oil agenda.

  • Posted By: Elzohoor @ 12/06/2007 3:07:26 AM

    The best way to establish peace in the middle-east is to get rid of the US in the talks.. Yeah, I'm an American, but I don't live in the US anymore, primarily because this "administration" is a joke and has ruined what was once a great country. This great country has been a laughing stock and pathetic in the eyes of the international community. George Bush has ruined and turned to stone everything he has touched, including America. I can't believe there's people out there that can still support him and believe anything he has to say. I can't believe America hasn't tried to impeach him long ago, especially after 9/11. Everyone in America should wake up and smell reality; your president has ruined your country and will continue to do so until his last day in office. Not only are the American people the ones who are suffering at his hands, think about the troops over there in Iraq losing their lives based upon what they know now to be total lies. May God protect the US troops and keep them from harms way, may they not be punished or harmed because they are mere pawns in the administrations sick war-games.

  • Posted By: hellbreaksloose @ 12/06/2007 3:05:40 AM

    move the world beyond oil. oil is killing us.

  • Posted By: Elzohoor @ 12/06/2007 3:04:41 AM

    The best way to establish peace in the middle-east is to get rid of the US in the talks.. Yeah, I'm an American, but I don't live in the US anymore, primarily because this "administration" is a joke and has ruined what was once a great country. This great country has been a laughing stock and pathetic in the eyes of the international community. George Bush has ruined and turned to stone everything he has touched, including America. I can't believe there's people out there that can still support him and believe anything he has to say. I can't believe America hasn't tried to impeach him long ago, especially after 9/11. Everyone in America should wake up and smell reality; your president has ruined your country and will continue to do so until his last day in office. Not only are the American people the ones who are suffering at his hands, think about the troops over there in Iraq losing their lives based upon what they know now to be total lies. May God protect the US troops and keep them from harms way, may they not be punished or harmed because they are mere pawns in the administrations sick war-games.

  • Posted By: fvmaster @ 12/06/2007 3:04:02 AM

    it is most dangerious when you cant see the enemy,,so dont turn on the lights and keep walking closed eyes

  • Posted By: billd @ 12/06/2007 3:02:10 AM

    Sure - no war with Iran. Iran isn't building a bomb. Iran is just refining the nuclear material and selling it to whomever would build a bomb. What those dummies are dis-regarding is that the first such bomb that can be traced to Iranian nuclear cores will result in the destruction of not only Iran and the country using the bomb but some city in Israel and some city in the U.S. and some two or three countries in the Muslim world.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 3:00:44 AM

    ONCE AGAIN YOU OFFER NO SOLUTION WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HAS BEEN SAID.
    WHICH CANDIDATE CAN HANDLE THIS SITUATION BEST AND WHY? Provide PROOF; WHO HAS THE BEST SOLUTION??
    WITHOUT RUSSIA IRAN WOULD HAVE NOTHING. Why can't the pubic see that the real threat are the break-away republics of Russia(most notably the 5 Muslim States in Central Asia and the Ukraine)crime families in Eastern Europe and the technological advancement of China. Iran, Pakistan, India, all countries in Africa have no means of deploying a successful nuclear attack. Let's take care of the nuclear, chemical and biological weapons that already exist not on those that do NOT EXIST. Once a new regime takes form they have to seperate church and state in a moderate fashion. We have to do this right, we cannot afford to go into Iran blind we have to do it intelligently through conduits of success. The fact are THAT RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE THE KEYS TO KEEPING THAT SIDE OF THE WORLD TAME. AfriCA is an enigma in that it there is not solution to there problems; I guess the global community is just hoping more die than live in Africa; and that the 1st world can continue their research projects. We really need to pick the best candidate. Be honest.

  • Posted By: fvmaster @ 12/06/2007 2:56:12 AM

    no,,i dont,,,i'm just an Iranian guy who knows his people and what his government think,,,,you must beleive it,,,i'm so close to them

  • Posted By: iluvsnoridin @ 12/06/2007 2:53:47 AM

    Comment: America has spread itself so thin that we forgot what it is that matters! Let us not make another mistake such as Iraq, but let us worry about real issues such as education and healthcare. So the Bush adm. has made another mistake but to be realistic is there anyone out there thats surprised? Mr. Bush does what Mr. Bush wants and thats the facts. If he feels the need to go war with Iran do any of you feel he wont accomplish it, not only that, but who would stop him? I feel Iran should be allowed to have whatever it is they want just as our gov. has and does whatever they want. Who are we to judge people when we cant even see the horror of our own ways...

  • Posted By: wonderfulend @ 12/06/2007 2:52:09 AM

    It's easy to say that this war coming next to Iran with a total assuredness of 100% range, was already planned so far, as Iran acts as a treat etrammeling US global tutoring project. Really sad to say that it'll lead to a world's end. The decepteve believing in power's power gets also high minded people to be blind. That's nature's bad side. And it is necessary. Mr Bush, ask for a miracle. It's better for you too....

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