Why Women Lose Weight—or Don’t

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  • Posted By: seattlesoutenou @ 12/08/2007 3:56:26 AM

    why would you date anyone, if you are married?

  • Posted By: jamiechristen @ 12/07/2007 4:16:43 PM

    I think that if people work out and eat right then they should be happy with what ever size they are. Also who would want to be a size zero? What is zero? Zero hips, zero breasts, zero curves, and zero body. And if anyone feels fat and they are a size zero then they may need to see a doctor about their eating disorder.

    • Posted By: amandaba @ 12/08/2007 3:51:09 AM

      Jamiechristen, it is hypocritical to claim that "if people work out and eat right then they should be happy with what ever size they are," and then to make derogatory comments toward those who are a size zero. Some of us who are a size zero *do* work out and eat right. And trust me, I have curvy hips and am a 32D, so I have a "body." I do not feel fat at the size I am at either. If you want to be accepted at whatever size you may be, learn to except others as well.

  • Posted By: zoearizona @ 12/05/2007 7:50:22 AM

    90 days ago -- and for the previous 4 years -- I carried 200 lbs on a 5'4" frame. At a postmenopausal 55, I had a BMI in excess of 31 and a family history of cancer, heart disease, and diabetes. It was small consolation that every member of my immediate and extended family (except my nieces) was shaped the same. Even my doctor was heavier than me. Finally, I realized that I was killing myself with fat. My company offered to pay the $180 fee for any employee who wanted to participate in a 17-week Weight Watchers at Work program. I leaped at the chance. Today, I am in my 13th week of that program and have lost 18 pounds and 4 dress sizes. My BMI today is down to 30, which isn't great but is better than it was 3 months ago. My ultimate goal is 130 pounds, which would make my BMI 22.3, about the middle of the "normal weight" range. I am wearing clothes I haven't been able to get on -- much less actually wear -- in 3 to 5 years. I have 51 more pounds to lose, and I mean to reach that goal by mid-April, 2008, my birthday month. When the Weight Watchers scale says 130, my promise to myself is a 1-carat diamond stud in each ear to celebrate being newly healthy and much more in control of my future. ECM

    • Posted By: rigormortis @ 12/08/2007 3:43:21 AM

      Personally, I'd never date a fat woman. But then I don't have to. One of the joys of having moved to Asia.

      That said, if my size 0 wife ever became fat, I wouldn't leave her. Of course it's unlikely she would ever become fat: she eats healthily-- a reasonable amount of meat, lots of vegetables, a bit of rice, no sugary beverages.

  • Posted By: Testnom @ 12/08/2007 3:18:25 AM

    The simple fact is this: BMI indexes are a load of Bullsh**. At the age of 26, I became a Type I diabetic (Insulin Dependent)...I wasn't overweight (save for maybe what remained of the "freshman 15" that I got in college. But I didn't know I had diabetes for several months, and my weight dropped down to 143lbs before I was able to get to the doctor (I was waiting for my health insurance to kick in...long story, and beside the point). I am 5'10" tall. I was skin and bones. Walking up a very slight incline wore me out. As I kid, I could run up an entire mountain without hardly losing my breath. Now standing for very long was painful. My knees were so bony I had to sleep with a pillow between my legs because it hurt when I laid on my side. My point is this: The BMI calculator says that at 5'10", and 143lbs, I am a healthy weight. In fact I'm a good 2 points above the "low" end of the healthy scale...yet I was probably weeks from death. Don't throw BMI calculators out there because they're crap. They don't take into account muscle mass, fat %, etc...You realize that according to that scale, Arnold Schwarzenegger is obese! I'm not blaming the authors, just the stupid people who tout the BMI calculators!

  • Posted By: RoTTnDvL @ 12/06/2007 8:33:33 AM

    I am 5' 7". I weigh 228lbs. I have a 4 year old that keeps me going from sun up to sun down. I am a very active person who does not eat right. I am able to admit that. Not so long ago I was so depressed over my weight that I quit eating other than 1 meal every other day. I drank so much water I could have filled my pool. I lost 43 lbs. in a little over a month. I ended up at my Dr. and got chewed out for the rapid weight loss. My whole life I have been overweight. My sisters teased me so badly that it did affect my self esteem and caused me to become a house ridden teen. Are you familar with the game Hungry Hungry Hippo? That game was the beggining of my end. All through high school I ran cross country, played feild hockey and lacrosse. I weighed 155lbs and was still teased quite a bit. In 2003 I starved myself into conjestive heart failure. I almost died trying to make everyone look at me in a different way. There are those people out there who think they are perfect. Because they are so perfect they feel that gives them the right to make the not so perfect misserable. BULLIES! That is what you are. I am sorry if my FAT BUTT OFFENDS YOU SO MUCH! I now understand that not everyone can be perfect like you. I am overweight and I am alive. I love the outdoors and I refuse to give into your steriotypes any longer. I will continue swimming in my pool. I will continue camping, hiking, shopping, playing in the snow, riding a bike with my daughter,ect. I refuse to remain outta sight outta mind just to make others happy. I AM FAT AND I AM BEAUTIFUL! Oh....PS. I did join Gold's Gym in Martinsburg WV. They have this so called rule of If any member is caught making fun of any other member they could loose their membership. BULL. The last time I attended I overheard Staff making fun of people. You PERFECT people are so wonderful. Fat people are not even welcomed into your gyms to try and do something better for themselves. This is a NO Win argument

    • Posted By: freak @ 12/08/2007 1:45:45 AM

      I am 5 '2 and currently weigh 178 lbs. I go work out at the gym 4 times a week. I am working very hard to lose this extra weight. I walk around in my bikini, and I don't care if anyone there looks at me and thinks I'm fat. If someone were to make fun of me at any time, i would give them a dirty look and tell them to mind their own business. I pay good money to go, and I will get my money's worth out of it.



  • Posted By: benzeel77 @ 12/06/2007 2:48:15 PM

    Hey Mike K, where do you get your info? A lot of guys out there, including me, like some fat on women. I can't stand the sucked up skinny look of models! Women should stop reading those stupid magazines by the checkout and just remember that they don't have to lose weight (unless they are severely overweight) and just remember that a lot of guys like fat women.

    • Posted By: MikeK. @ 12/06/2007 3:11:20 PM

      If "a lot of guys" like fat women, why don't the clothing lines hire fat women to model their clothing? Answer: BECAUSE MEN DON'T WANT TO SEE IT! You are an example of the feminization of the American male, a sycophant kissing up to The Oprah and women of the world. Be an honest man. It requires less Prozac.

      • Posted By: freak @ 12/08/2007 1:21:54 AM

        Mike, For the love of god, shut the *** up. Every time I come across one of your posts, I feel like puking. It's obvious you have nothing to add to this board, and no one wants to hear your lame opinions. All I can say is this: You don't have a chance with any of these "thin, beautiful models." They'd be sickened by you.

  • Posted By: Avidreader82 @ 12/08/2007 12:31:59 AM

    I think the main problem is that people focus on a certain 'look' instead of a person's actual thrive toward a healthier lifestyle. If a man or woman excerises regularly and eats healthily and yet still isn't considered to be 'normal' looking (in other words thin) then they are immediately classified as unhealthy. However, there are people who, no matter, what will have different body types. Some women are meant to have more curves while others are meant to be in-between and some are just destined to be thin no matter what they eat or do. Genetics plays a large part in it as well as lifestyle. There aren't many women out there who are happy with their bodies despite what they look like. Even the thinnest of celebrities want a 'better' body. Even the skinniest of women want a 'flatter stomach'. It's insane and will never end until women start worrying about their health regardless of the size of their tush. You can be thin and be considered 'normal' but be the unhealthiest person out there. If you aren't active, eating healthily or exercising regularly then you aren't living a healthy lifestyle and therefore aren't as healthy as you could be. So thankfully there are researchers who are acknowledging that there are women and men who do live healthier lifestyles and who are healthy despite the fact that they don't have the 'BMI' that scientists have come up with.

  • Posted By: RoTTnDvL @ 12/06/2007 2:49:31 PM

    WTG MikeK...you really put woman in their place don't you??? Men like you are the reason woman feel the need to starve themselves. You said it all and I quote"Comment: I think it's important for women to understand a man's perspective regarding the ideal female body type. We prefer women thin with large breasts. And remember, the thinner you are, the better we'll treat you."

    • Posted By: MikeK. @ 12/06/2007 3:16:35 PM

      Somebody needs to tell women the truth. Women are surrounded by thin models in magazines, movies, and TV because MEN WANT TO SEE THIN WOMEN AND WILL WATCH THE SHOW IF AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN IS ON THE TUBE. This is not a difficult concept. This is not media conspiracy. This is the free market reacting to demand. THIN=ATTRACTIVE. FAT=TURN OFF THE TV THAT CHICK IS FAT.

      • Posted By: troller @ 12/07/2007 9:29:46 AM

        Hey Mike K: Someone needs to tell you the truth: Women like men with washboard abs, a movie star smile, perfect hair, a great a** and a big bank account. You know, someone resembling Brad Pitt or George Clooney. Measure up, Mike?

        • Posted By: freak @ 12/08/2007 12:31:01 AM

          Not even close!! More like a beer belly, a crooked smile, thinning hair, no ass and an overdrawn bank account. :)

      • Posted By: freak @ 12/07/2007 11:58:28 PM

        Mike, you are so braindead. Can't you come up with something better than, "Men want to see thin women and will watch the show if an attractive woman is on the tube." I can hear you now: "Look, that chick has big ***!" I don't give a *** what or who you want to see on "the tube." And, your average "fat" person has more personality than you do. I bet you can't even attract the ladies, not with a shallow attitude like this. I can tell by reading your post, YOU NEED TO TURN OFF THE TV AND PICK UP A BOOK.

      • Posted By: potvinb @ 12/06/2007 3:30:34 PM

        I just read this on a de-motivational poster:

        If you're attractive enough on the outside, people will forgive you for being irritating to the core.

        Hope your attractive enough Mike.

  • Posted By: Avidreader82 @ 12/08/2007 12:29:11 AM

    I think the main problem is that people focus on a certain 'look' instead of a person's actual thrive toward a healthier lifestyle. If a man or woman excerises regularly and eats healthily and yet still isn't considered to be 'normal' looking (in other words thin) then they are immediately classified as unhealthy. However, there are people who no matter what will have different body types. Some women are meant to have more curves while others are meant to be in-between and some are just thin. Genetics plays a large part in it as well along with lifestyle. There aren't many women out there who are happy with their bodies despite what they look like. Even the thinnest of celebrities want a 'better' body. Even the skinniest of women want a 'flatter stomach'. It's insane and will never end until women start worrying about their health regardless of the size of their tush. You can be thin and be considered 'normal' but be the unhealthiest person out there. If you aren't active, eat healthily or exercise regularly then you aren't living a healthy lifestyle and therefore aren't as healthy as you could be. So thankfully there are researchers who are acknowledging that there are women and men who do live healthier lifestyles and who are healthy despite the fact that they don't have the 'BMI' that scientists have come up with.

  • Posted By: freak @ 12/07/2007 11:25:55 PM

    I am a 28 y/o who works out regularly at a gym, because I'm trying to lose the 45 lbs I've put on the past couple of years. But no, I don't care if I ever fit into some "perfect" size 2. I just don't want to be overweight anymore. I CERTAINLY don't want to walk arould looking like I'm starving, or look like some supermodel. I could care less about such superficial junk.







    so

  • Posted By: luvnmyself @ 12/07/2007 11:03:49 PM

    I totally agree with babs1971. I started losing weight back in 2005. I was 249 lbs and totally unhappy. I joined a gym and started working out. I also watched everything I ate. I got down to 180lbs. For my height of 5'8 I thought I looked good. That didn't last long. I used to hate to shop for clothes when I was "fat", but when I lost the weight, I was able to wear fashionable, "normal", clothes. But, because of society, I started being unsatisfied with my weight again. I started working out even harder. When I thought that wasn't giving me the results that I wanted to see, I began to take diet pills. I didn't know how skinny I wanted to be. Ijust knew I wasn't happy with where I was. I started hating myself because it just seemed like I would forever remain fat. I didn't know what to do. I stsrted withdrawing from everyone because became too depressed and obsessed with losing weight. Finally, a good friend of mine told me I should probably see a psychologist. I did. That was the best thing I ever did. I found out my unhappiness was not because of my weight, but had to do with my past. I now visit my therapist regularly and I love myself! WOW! What a difference a therapist makes. Good luck to everyone!!!!

  • Posted By: babs1971 @ 12/07/2007 7:49:24 PM

    I agree that people, females particularly, are caving to society pressures. I once weighed 345lbs at 5'11". My height helped 'hide' the fact I weighed that much. My family/friends were shocked. Once I lost the weight and I am now down to 180-190 lbs I have friends that will comment when I gain a little. I just say it is none of the business and it is between my doctor and I. I didn't use surgery or pills but good, old fashioned diet and exercise! I watched what I ate and went to the gym. I wasn't embarressed. I gained the weight following medical issues. The problem with today's society is fast food and the fast paced society we live in. Parents can't or don't want to take the time to cook meals. I don't have children but I do have 7 nieces and nephews. The oldest is 8 and he will eat a salad over chicken nuggets. My sister/brothers are raising their children how we were raised: McDonald's and dining out in general is a once a month treat. They don't allow the children to sit around playing video games all night/day. The kids get out play. Even when its COLD outside. It's called putting on a coat and hat. Remember those??? You have to motivate you children and teach them proper eating habits when they are young or you end up with the society we have now. I work in the medical field and see it all the time. Teenage girls wanting to see a dietician to lose weight when for all intent and purposes they should gain 10lbs! But, try to tell them that!
    You don't have to be stick thin. What happened to the day when a size 8 or 10 or 12 was acceptable?? My boyfriend doesn't care that I was once heavy and still have the "after effects" from the weight loss. He commends me for being able to keep the weight off when too many people gain it back. For me it's easy...I want to stay healthy and not have ongoing pain issues, etc.
    Who cares what society thinks, they are not you or your family. They are not the ones that love you or will care for you when you are sick from going to extremes to be thin. They are not the ones who will cry at your funeral for going to far.....
    Bottom line: Eat healthy and exercise without thought to society pressure!

  • Posted By: babs1971 @ 12/07/2007 7:37:37 PM

    I once weighed 345 lbs and now I'm at190 and I am 5'11" tall. My height helped distribute the weight so my family/frieds were shocked once I disclosed how much I had truly weighed. Now when I lose/gain the littlest bit comments are made by 'friends'. I then say to them that my doctor is comfortable with my weight as am I and to leave me alone. I don't fall for society pressure and never have. I lost weight after gaining it after medical procedures. My cholesteral was never high when I was heavy and I was never diabetic. that is a false assumption society makes as well.
    It is a shame designers are changing the sizing to make society "feel" better. It is a yet another false perception women/girls do not need at this time. The "Hollywood' people put enough pressure w/out the stylist doing it to. I work in the medical field and have seen one too many teenages come in wanting to see the dietician to 'lose' weight. They don't need to!!! Society has changed for the worse regarding this issue. When I was young we were always outside on our bikes and we walked to a lot of places with our friends. Now, kids play on the computer and play video games and eat junk food. I don't have children of my own by have a total of 7 neices and nephews who are learning at young ages to eat healthy. Just like when we were kids, for them going to McDonalds is a once a month treat rather than a daily meal. That is the problem today.

  • Posted By: janmarc @ 12/07/2007 5:35:08 PM

    I think the author has a good point that the thinnest women are more susceptable to "societal pressures" to be thin. I am 5' 3" and am 51. Eight months ago I weighed 125 and looked and felt great. Then I had surgery and lost 18 lbs. My family and friends all rave about how I look now, leading me to wonder if they thought I was fat before surgery. Certainly, I now feel much more pressure to remain "thin." I hate that regardless of who we are, how old we are, and what we have accomplished, everyone, including me, thinks of us as a dress size.

  • Posted By: brownskinbabygyrl @ 12/07/2007 2:54:33 PM

    I looked over many of the comments (not all, just many) and I have yet to see any one question the charts or the docs that make them up...no I realize I have a few pounds to lose, but does anyone say, 'wait, this group or that group is genetically predisposed to carry more weight? I 've seen studies that say black women are heavier on average than our white and Hispanic counterparts, but besides blaming education, financial, and dietary standards in the black community, does anyone say why? Just my observation, black women seem to have larger breasts, thighs and behinds than any other race; where's the BMI calculator that takes that into account? You want me to believe that the extra "junk in the trunk" that I'm hauling around behind me is the same as the "spare tire" that some of my white and hispanic sistahs are carrying, and that makes me overweight? That doesn't sound quite right to me....

    • Posted By: isaxgrl @ 12/07/2007 5:13:23 PM

      i was reading your comments--and as a nurse of neary 20 yers--getting to see lots of people of all races in various states of health--I must say your comments--and several others hit some nails that i think "researchers" completely miss. The BMI thing is not an "end all--be all" tool. I am white--5'6" and weigh 160 pounds--at the beginning of this year I wore a size 12. I am currently a size 8. I exercise little (running 4- miles a week) more and eat differently--and I have not lost one single pound!! I look different in the mirror and my curves are more in the "right" places--but I weigh the same--and my BMI is down only from 31 to 29. Many of us--for genetic (ethnic and familial) reasons carry our weight differently. BMI doesn't account for that at all. if you have bigger boobs, or hips--your BMI will be higher--and you may be just as healthy as slim jane in the next office. I --yes a nurse--don't know that my supposed ideal weight of 135 is really any better than my current 160. but i know my sixe 8 is better than my 14 --because of where the fat is. and size 8 is where i want to be because of how i look--not because of the scale. and size 6, 4, 2, 0 are sizes i will probbly never see again--because I would no longer look healthy--or female.

  • Posted By: hfrank9 @ 12/07/2007 4:13:15 PM

    Where does it end? You get a little junk in the trunk and everyone wants to say that your obese. Well that just toasts my muffins. Perhaps if I walked around like a used stick from a orange sherbert then everyone would be happy.

  • Posted By: ecinaj55 @ 12/07/2007 4:05:52 PM

    So, now does EVERYONE need to be a size 0 because if one is not, then they are lazy???? )-:

  • Posted By: Stephipoo57 @ 12/07/2007 4:01:15 PM

    I don't like what is being said here, because I am a size 0. And hearing that a larger person can fit into a size 2 wich is the next size up, well that just makes me feel fat. Hearing that a regular size 8 can fit into a size 2. that just makes all the people who try hard to get there size 0 now dont get all the credit. If you keep tricking the mind that your thin when your really over weight thats not healthy at all.

  • Posted By: ecinaj55 @ 12/07/2007 4:00:41 PM

    From experience, I know that "too thin" is NOT attractive, and neither is "too fat". But to say EVERYONE has to be within a certain range irregardless of genetics, age, body build, etc.--there should be more than just one tool. It is the lifestyle that matters, and moderation is the key to everything--too much exercise is not always healthy, neither is too little. Too much food, and the wrong kinds of food, are not healthy. But, neither is too little (there are people out there who don't eat enough to maintain their bodies and totally rely on supplement. And, for us "recovering" (even though you never really recover) anorexics, eating and exercising "normally" without becoming OC about it, is difficult enough, as it is.

  • Posted By: tjmontoya @ 12/07/2007 3:52:28 PM

    to the person below me I would highly suggest that you do some more research... In your OPINION what you stated may very well be true. However there can be many contributing factors. I know that in my personal experience I am over weight, nor considered obese by any degree but do not over eat in any regard, I exercise 5 days a week and I have a healthy diet where as my sister who is a size 0 does none of the above. there are genetic factors and there are also other things to take into consideration. Your problem may have been that you were over eating and not properly taking care of yourself however that is not everyones issue... Do some reseach on medical sights it may open up your eyes a little

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