Why Women Lose Weight—or Don’t

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  • Posted By: ashley4400 @ 12/07/2007 3:36:48 PM

    I am absolutely sick of overweight people saying that it's normal and that they ''love their curves.'' don't get me wrong, i totally don't believe in being overly thin. i know for a fact that there are a lot of thin people that work very very hard to stay the way they are. so they have the right to say "i'm hot" with confidence. that's the right way to do it. you can't have it both ways. either watch your weight, or get fat. but if you get fat, don't pretend that you're still hot. i'm only saying this because i am working on losing some weight myself. so trust me, i understand how hard it is to lose weight, and more importantly keep it off. now that i'm thinner and i've worked hard to get here, i get a little angry when people say that they're "beautiful no matter what you say" beauty...is 100 percent on the outside. however, good personality is on the inside...which is way more important. but being a good person doesn't make you beautiful, it just makes you a good person!!! the way you gain weight is by eating more than your body needs. i'm sure we all know that. its not all about genetics. some are more fortunate than others. however, what you look like is in YOUR hands. i'm not saying this to offend anyone. i see it as empowering........genetics is not an excuse at all. if you're fat, its your fault. and if you're thin, its of your doing as well. i know it may seem like thin people eat and don't get fat, but they probably exercise and it all evens out. so to wrap things up. you eat to much and don't work out, you get what you deserve. i've been there. i've been fat, and i know that it was because my calorie intake was way to high. so get a grip people! its your weight.....you make it whatever you want it to be.

  • Posted By: ecinaj55 @ 12/07/2007 3:30:24 PM

    While the BMI is,theoretically, a good tool, I have to say that, at 5 ft. even, when I weighed the 100-105 pounds I SHOULD to fit into the "normal" weight group, I looked like I was ill and felt worse--and ate hardly anything at all. Now, I eat healthy, no fatty, fried, fast, or white, weigh 125-130, and am in a lot better shape, physically and emotionally. Before, I also exercised up to 12 hours per week--I was additcted to both thin and some weird concept of "fit". I still have to fight the "idea" that I should look like a twig, and studies like these don't help!!

  • Posted By: rmalove @ 12/07/2007 3:01:56 PM

    This study is great. It's absolutely true that the better you feel about yourself the more likely you are to take care of yourself. Why? Because if you feel bad about yourself you're going to launch out onto a drastic diet, then get discouraged and toss in the towel. Then you gain more weight! It happens. It's possible to be overweight and still be healthy, as long as you eat right and exercise.

    Valhallan, first of all, good for you! It's great to see someone with a healthy attitude regarding weight. You're absolutely right. There are a number of factors that can contribute to obesity, and I don't know what entertains me more-when those people that are naturally thin try to degrade people who struggle with their weight due to factors beyond their control, or family members that degrade their children for struggling with the same issues they have. I have a friend who has struggled with her weight her whole life, and although she's very athletic and healthy I remember watching her obese mother put her on a diet all through high school in an attempt to get her to lose weight.

    That said, I have to disagree with you regarding the price of food. You're right in that it's expensive to try to purchase healthy foods; however, there are cheap alternatives without having to throw in the towel. I know b/c I have a health condition that makes it impossible for me to eat anything fried, processed or fatty, so I HAVE to have "healthy food". If you carefully explore and visit big chain food stores you're very likely to find healthy food that you can afford. It usually means cutting a lot of the fun stuff out of your grocery budget, but it can be done-for example, drinking water or iced tea (a box of tea bags only costs $2 or $3) rather than soda and juice and shifting that money over to the purchase of wheat bread rather than white and fresh produce rather than canned (salty).

  • Posted By: Valhallan @ 12/07/2007 2:19:06 PM

    Personally I think a lot of you are ***. Pardon my language, but a lot of you say you're size 0 or athletic and you try to 'educate' people on how they're overweight and what caused it, and how it can be helped. Well, here's something-- Try it yourself before you downgrade people because of their weight. Yes, it is a health issue, a big one, and people who are overweight should take better care of themselves, eat right, excersice, but the main problem is people like a lot of you. It's no wonder people who are overweight have low self-esteem, and virtually no self love. If people didn't base all this on IMAGE, then maybe people who are overweight would feel more confident to go to gyms, and work out more without having to be afraid of people seeing them. And I'm amused when a lot of you say that it's because they're lazy, didn't eat right, ect, ect. Think of the people who don't have the money to buy all those 'health' foods. Food and the cost of everything has gone up, it's becoming harder to buy the healthy food instead of the cheaper, more unhealthy lot.

    And this part is for billy_f14. Good for you... I am overweight, I have been eating healthy, working out, and I have lost only 5 pounds. It's a small amount, but it's something. And 1. I love myself. Not my image, but my SELF. My self-esteem is huge. 2. I do not have back, joint, or any sort of pain like that. At all. Only if I'm lifting something about 80lbs, but honestly, who wouldn't? I did not choose to become big. I am not lazy, I don't even watch TV. Ever. We don't even get channels, and I don't care. My father's side of the family has always had a problem with weight. Sometimes genetics play a role and it becomes harder to lose weight. No, it's not an 'excuse'. So maybe, before you shoot your mouth off on how lazy they are... Try it. Get fat, and try it before you attempt to educate people....

    Yesterday I was talking to a woman and we got into the conversation of diets cause she said she was on one because of Diabetes. She was not overweight really at all. And I told her my weight and she called me a liar. She said I did not look it at all and it made me feel very confident in myself. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop working out and eating right. It's just nice to know SOME people can look at you and think you're beautiful no matter how large, or small you are.

    True, overweight people, like myself, are at very high risk. I am at risk for Diabetes, not only because I'm over weight, but because it also runs in the family which I can't control that. But it's hard to lose weight, and without people to help them, they give up. If more people were willing to look past weight and help someone emotionally before helping them physically... then maybe the world, and the people in it, would be better off. But of course not. Millions of people are rude, mean, selfish, and they don't care.

    I'll know people will flame me, and probably say all my veiws are wrong, but I don't care. Go ahead.

  • Posted By: tu2gen @ 12/07/2007 1:46:02 PM

    This is ridulolous. People accusing overwieght people of not attempting to be thin.... I've battled with my weight all my life as a dancer. I am severly overwieght by dance standards, not as bad for regular people standards. I am 5'5" and wear a size 12-13. I am very curvy, but have never had a pudgy stomache. I just have enormous hips, a big butt, and very muscular thighs. Point is that I have tried recently exercising more and limiting my calorie intake. I even look at how much sodium and fat is in my food. I don't drink soda at all. My point is that I began to GAIN weight instead of lose weight. So yeah, needless to say I gave up counting the calories and eat what I want in moderation. I still weigh the same. I still do exercise because I do believe it is important for health reasons, but I don't kill myself in the process. So I think as long as a person attempts to make healthy choices, that is all that matters. Don't just assume all overwieght people are lazy.

  • Posted By: mainemooster12 @ 12/06/2007 3:08:01 PM

    I am a younger person (15) struggling with my weight. I have had this problem since I was about 7. No matter how hard I try, the weight doesn't come off. I eat healthy and exersize at least 3 times a week. I know that I am probably viewed as a lazy junk food eating person. Please, don't assume that an overweight person just sits and eats and is unhealthy.

    • Posted By: mrsavizdrav @ 12/06/2007 3:55:42 PM

      I find hard to believe that someone can eat right and excercise and be overweight. Don't get me wrong, but eating healthy means different things to different people. Find some books on nutrition, or look for information on the Internet, read the nutrition labels of packaged food, and than decide what is healthy and what is not. And forget about soda!

      • Posted By: tu2gen @ 12/07/2007 1:25:47 PM

        People do try to lose weight all the time and do sometimes fail. I am an example. I was a dancer, but didn't do very much exercise on the side. I was told I was overweight, which was true for a dancer. So then I started going to the gym about 5 days a week doing crunches, running, kickboxing, ect. I even started dieting and limited my calorie intake. Point is I GAINED weight instead of losing. So losing can be hard.

      • Posted By: candlefreak74 @ 12/06/2007 7:42:23 PM

        You can believe what you want. I eat very healthy and only drink water juice and soy milk and eat fresh veggies and lots of lean meats and fish. I excerise 3 to 4 times a week and I'm still a curvy size 18. It's also genetics people. Believe it. My son is tall and skinny because he too eats like me and his father was and still is a bean pole. Body size does have something to do with your genetics. I'm not saying you need to sit and give up trying to be healthy because I love the way I feel. I hike and run and kickbox. But more and more people are not just getting active and thats the problem.

      • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/06/2007 6:48:36 PM

        I have also eaten right (no soda, spring water with lemon, green tea, cranberry cleanse, raw almonds, raw broccoli, raw spinach, skinless chicken breast, etc....) and exercised (running 3 miles 3x a week) and have always been heavy. My thin friends have said, "O we wish we could eat as healthy as you..." as they stuff themselves with soda and chocolate. So, sometimes diet doesn't matter as much as genetics. But it is always best to do the best you can with what you have and do the right thing for health. You may not ever be bone thin, but you will feel better and be healthier. Sugar is a killer!

    • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/06/2007 4:13:22 PM

      You need to know that YOU ARE beautiful the way you are. But overweight is unhealthy. You need to surround yourself with encouraging people and be active, pay attention to what you eat (no excuses, ok!) Be physically active, and don't look for acceptance from useless people. Also, I don't know you at all so maybe this doesn't apply to you but - don't fall into the trap of looking for love, acceptance, and attention from boys/men and allowing them to use you in a sexual way. Even if guys "don't like heavy girls" they will use you for sex in private, and pretend they don't know you around other people. Those guys are NOT WORTH IT! Save yourself for when you are old enough and a guy is old enough to appreciate you, love you, and marry you. YOU ARE WORTH IT! Keep trying! Never give up! You go girl!

  • Posted By: ProudDadx3 @ 12/05/2007 3:32:53 PM

    God I hope that this isn't going to be the new women its discusting my wife had 3 kids and is still in great shape. By excepting this (new women) you are saying its ok to be lazy! If my wife can look good after three kids there is no excuse for these women 1 hour of exercise a day dont eat 10 times a day and just watch what you eat. If not people like my mom will be uncloging your heart down the road. Not ment to offend anyone just tring to help.

    • Posted By: nuwavegurl29 @ 12/07/2007 11:50:14 AM

      What's even more 'discusting' is your grammar! Worry about that first before you become totally consumed with how 'discusting' the obese are. Have a nice day!

  • Posted By: MaeDae @ 12/07/2007 11:49:44 AM

    I am 18 and 4'11 weighing about 130. Now, normally you would think that I should be 97 pounds and that is what the BMI tells me also. According to the BMI I AM obese because I am so short. Here's the kicker : I am a dancer and gymnast. I am nothing put muscle and there is hardly any fat on me. Am I still obese? No, the BMI is a flawed system. There is no way you can judge your Body mass by just your height and weight. What about muscle mass? What about larger breasts that add an extra 15 pounds?

    I believe that it is all just numbers. When someone looks at you, there's no way they are going to say, "Oh yeal, she wears a size 4" Nobody does that. It's just a number. What matters is when you get up and look into the mirror. If you are happy with how you look, then be happy. There's no since in placing yourself with a number, cause that's all it is.

  • Posted By: shadybara @ 12/06/2007 4:27:10 PM

    I'm 26years old 5'3" and I'm guessing about 160-165. I haven't stepped on a scale in a few months. I know that I'mnot at my best right now and I know what to eat and do to change that. I just like to enjoy the foods that I like to enjoy (namely the oh so evil Pasta) My point in writing this though is that I was always the "average" girl, not "too fat" but I never had rock hard abs either. As a youth I was an avid bike rider and my mother always cooked very healthy meals, we didn't drink too many sodas or eat fast food regularly. But I do agree whole heartedly with this article, it honestly makes sense to me and I've seen these trends within myself. When I feel better I want to continue that feeling, when I feel bad I pretty much just don't care. But what we needto start saying is just flat out healthy or unhealthy. This takes away the power of fat or skinny or even average. The important thing is health no matter the size.

    • Posted By: healthygirl86 @ 12/07/2007 11:36:23 AM

      VERY TRUE!!! :)

      Posted By: shadybara @ 12/06/2007 4:27:10 PM
      Comment: I'm 26years old 5'3" and I'm guessing about 160-165. I haven't stepped on a scale in a few months. I know that I'mnot at my best right now and I know what to eat and do to change that. I just like to enjoy the foods that I like to enjoy (namely the oh so evil Pasta) My point in writing this though is that I was always the "average" girl, not "too fat" but I never had rock hard abs either. As a youth I was an avid bike rider and my mother always cooked very healthy meals, we didn't drink too many sodas or eat fast food regularly. But I do agree whole heartedly with this article, it honestly makes sense to me and I've seen these trends within myself. When I feel better I want to continue that feeling, when I feel bad I pretty much just don't care. But what we needto start saying is just flat out healthy or unhealthy. This takes away the power of fat or skinny or even average. The important thing is health no matter the size.

  • Posted By: kiki @ 12/06/2007 1:20:18 PM

    Why is it that people in this country seem to think it is okay to think that fat is the new normal, it personally makes me sick. I am a thin person by choice, I work out and eat healthy. I only eat desserts and have alcoholic drinks in moderation and fast food is a no-go in my book. Why do people who actually care if they live or die like myself have to be labeled as the abnormal now...I have never met an overweight woman who liked being overweight and didn't suffer health problems because of it. My advice as a nutritionist and very health concious person- get off your asses and put down the doughnuts and 40 ounce sodas, work out and please do not make being overweight and obese the norm anymore. There are more deaths per year from obesity related causes such as dibeties and heart disease than breast, prostate, lung and liver cancer combined. Think about it, don't change your views, change your actions.

    • Posted By: potvinb @ 12/06/2007 1:31:40 PM

      I liked that last line a lot. It bears repeating.

      Don't change your views - change your actions!!

      • Posted By: alphasqix @ 12/07/2007 11:33:36 AM

        Kiki, I think the point of the article isn't that it's okay to be fat, but that we've obviously reached a point where the old paradigm of "you just need to eat fewer calories" isn't working anymore. If we keep doing what we're doing, we'll keep getting what we're getting (that is, an obesity epidemic.)

  • Posted By: notfromtheus @ 12/07/2007 6:30:25 AM

    maybe you should ask your fast food companies to replace the mayonnaise with margerine and the white bread with real bread (wholemeal bread). that way you would save more than half of the calories in one burger. instead of frensh fries you could eat "not fried but cooked" potatoes (which i have never seen in the us by the way). they are even tastier, except if you like the taste of fat. which i think is true for a lot of americans. did you ever try an apple or carrot instead of a twinky or candy bar? why does one society try to kill itself with food and try to spread it all over the world? as one could get from what i wrote, im not from the us, but from europe. i have never seen as many french fries in my life before i spent one year in the us. have you ever seen real bread? the family i lived with didnt until i made some for them. they didnt like it at first because it tastes like bread insted of no taste toast. but now they bake it themselves because the kids lost 20 pounds each only because they ate dark bread instead of toast. which by the way not only has taste by itself, it even fills you, so one or two slices are enough to not be hungry anymore... so before you blame some kind of psychological reactions as the reason for your countries obesity problem, ask yourself how it came that more than half of the food in restaurants or at homes in the us are either fried or without taste. and please stop spreading your unhealthy way of life throughout the world... thank you from europe

    • Posted By: alphasqix @ 12/07/2007 11:29:49 AM

      Egh, no margarine, please. Hydrogenated fats will kill you someday.

    • Posted By: American_In_UK @ 12/07/2007 7:46:45 AM

      Wop, that's odd. I am from the US but am currently living in the UK, which though they hate to admit it, is European. I have been here over three years and I have never seen so much fried food and especially french fries or 'chips' in my life. Every meal is served with chips, even lasagne! And I find it very difficult to find good bread. At home I always ate pumpernickle or wholewheat. Pumpernickle doesn't exist here and most of the brown bread is just over processed white bread that has been dyed. Plus at home it was alot easier to get local produce, as there are a lot of farms around so you direct to the grower, not so over here. I guess the grass is always greener...

  • Posted By: mdemouse40 @ 12/06/2007 2:08:31 PM

    Comment: AHHH H*LL NO! Put some meat on 'dem bones, saddle up along side me and let me feel what a REAL woman is! Dam! 99% of it all shows us skinny heroine looking crack hoes as models. GREAT! role models for todays young ladies... Like I said, pack on some pounds and make your rounds! By the way, my GF has put on 15+ in six months and there is NO other woman like her! Eat on ladies!

    • Posted By: MikeK. @ 12/06/2007 2:25:51 PM

      Ridiculous urban banter. You are out of the intellectual loop my friend. Models are skinny because advertisers have studied men's tastes and know how to sell to them. Models will never be fat b/c men don't want to see fat women or see clothes worn by fat women. The market just responds to demand.

      • Posted By: alphasqix @ 12/07/2007 11:28:19 AM

        Wait ... models are skinny because advertisers are trying to sell women's clothes ... to men?

      • Posted By: potvinb @ 12/06/2007 3:09:22 PM

        Urban banter? The intellectual loop? What's intellectual about skinny models?

        And if you're really a man, you should know that men don't all like the same body type in women anymore than women do in men. Fashion designers set the skinny standard years ago and women bought into it.

        We go on about teaching our little girls that healthy, not skinny, is the ideal, then defeat ourselves by buying them Barbie dolls and mini-slut clothing that teach them the opposite.

        You sound like a mean-spirited person with too much time on your hands.

  • Posted By: amycross @ 12/06/2007 10:52:37 AM

    Great Article I love how you emphasize at the end "to love ourselves enough to be the healthiest we can be, instead of constantly beating ourselves up that we're not a real size 2." Lets not make SIZE the issue any more and focus more on our HEALTH, Mostly for our children if we can teach them now how to love themselves, and how to choose the right foods they won't suffer with Diabetes and Heart Disease.

    • Posted By: nuwavegurl29 @ 12/07/2007 11:26:24 AM

      That's the best thing I've heard so far in this post! Kudos, dear!

  • Posted By: billy_f14 @ 12/06/2007 7:33:54 PM

    You're kidding right? Fat is not normal, fat is UNHEALTHY. Why do you insist on perpetuating the myth that people will eventually find fat attractive. A person's health is evaluated by the opposite sex based on emotional, mental and physical health. That means, stable, intelligent and fit. If you're overweight you are more than likely suffering from self-esteem issues (strike one), and chronic pain in the joints, back and muscles (unfit- strike two). Whether you want to accept it or not, the looks are what get you "in the door", then factors like personality and intelligence keep you in the game.
    People who are unfit are in denial. Anyone can find time to work out and eat healthy. I'm a 44 year old, married professional and both my wife and I have made a healthy diet and activity a key part of ours and our children's lives.
    Big bones, metabolism problems, no time, etc, are all excuses. Articles that imply that being unhealthy is the "new norm" only perpetuate the obesity problem in this country. We should be teaching children that obesity is not healthy, then, teach them how to be healthy.
    Trying to convince overweight teens that it's OK to be fat, is not good for them. You're not helping their self-esteem or their future. You're leading them down the road of future health issues and even a pre-mature death.
    Finally, being healthy is not a function of simply weight loss. Anorexia is not healthy either. Everyone needs to evaluate their own individual body type and target the weight that's right for them. Ask a doctor of fitness professional if you're not sure.
    Anyway, I'm getting tired of articles that "normalize" obesity. It's an epidemic and normalizing it makes the problem worse.

    • Posted By: nuwavegurl29 @ 12/07/2007 11:20:08 AM

      So people who are not overweight or obese don't suffer from low self esteem, sickness and other factors that are always connected to being fat. Got news for you, dear: YES THEY DO! I know plenty of "hot" women who ar edepressed, self-loathing lonely women who would give their right leg for a glimpse of someone who wants them for being human, not an image! People always want to make this whole 'obesity epideminc' to be about health. In some cases it is, because most of us are fully aware what an unhealthy lifestyle can do to a person's quality of life. But that just doesn't stop with bad eating habits. It also refers to excessive alcohol and narcotic consumption. But because people who suffer from those addictions are not 'showing' their 'problem' on the outside like fat people do, the world pays no attention to it, and the corporations keep making millions of dollars on cigarettes and beer, and the pharmeceutical companies continue to put one dangerous weight loss supplement on the market just for it to be removed later due to the fact that it may help you lose weight, but you'll lose your hair, eyesight, and sex-drive in the process. You'll be thin, but also a bald, blind and sexually frustrated hermit. But just as long as your thin, right? That's all that matters! Give me a flippin' break!

  • Posted By: billy_f14 @ 12/06/2007 8:09:15 PM

    and I'll be happy to let it alone as long as you don't come asking for my tax dollars to pay for your medical bills later on.

  • Posted By: billy_f14 @ 12/06/2007 8:07:49 PM

    You're in denial. I learned from my Mom and Dad who both died at an early age due to their unhealthy lifestyles. Dad died at 46 and Mom at 61. I could be obese too had I not woken up.

  • Posted By: witty1 @ 12/06/2007 7:55:15 PM

    Get off your horse, billy_f14, and live where the "real" people are; that is, the people with the weight problem. I'm so happy for you and your family to be living such a healthy lifestyle. Good for you. But please don't enter a comment debasing others who are not as fortunate as you and your family to have such positive eating habits. Many people were led astray early in life, and now have an uphill battle to straighten themselves out. It's like having a smoking or alcoholic addiction, except you can't quit eating cold turkey. I'm not overweight, but several members of my family are, and I have seen them struggle with this issue for most of their life. I understand your tired of articles normalizing obesity, but I'm tired of "healthy" people telling overweight people they are that way because they're lazy. Just handle your family, and let the obese and overweight peole find hope where they are able.

  • Posted By: MikeK. @ 12/06/2007 1:48:20 PM

    I think it's important for women to understand a man's perspective regarding the ideal female body type. We prefer women thin with large breasts. And remember, the thinner you are, the better we'll treat you.

    • Posted By: invaderoperaghost @ 12/06/2007 7:46:00 PM

      Why exactly should what men think about my body be of any importance to me?

      I'm skinny but that comment was kind of disturbing to me. I don't exist for men to look at, and I don't want them to look at me for that sort of reason. Women aren't meat, and their self-esteems should not be determined by whether men think they're attractive or not.

  • Posted By: Sailfast @ 12/06/2007 6:06:09 PM

    Pullease! I don't want to be crude or rude but I have to be, while attractive, the two women used in the photo really need to apply for license plates before they end up on my health care bills because of they're hearts, blood pressure or get blood sugar problems. Yes jeannean, women are supposed to have curves and there's a seat for everyone, but I like most men, draw the line at S.U.V. a small bus is a bit too much!

  • Posted By: jeanneen @ 12/06/2007 5:32:04 PM

    I have always been a size 0 or at the most two. I had 2 children. But in the last few yrs. I have just accepted I am NOT a runway model type, I have curves, I am more of a pin-up girl look. If we just accept we are women and we are sopposed to be curvy, we'll be happy-- confidence and don't look sloppy, take care of one's self no matter the size.

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