Why Women Lose Weight—or Don’t

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  • Posted By: lolgirl13 @ 12/08/2007 10:57:40 PM

    i think that many over weight woman said they did not want to lose a significant amount of weight [in the range of not being obese}, beacause they are happy just being themselves. I have no clue why you would find it so shocking that some woman are happy not being a size 0. Mabye you have information from REAL PEOPLE, and that is why you are so shocked.

  • Posted By: 50something @ 12/08/2007 10:55:13 PM

    Why is it anyone's business what another person looks like? Do you pay their bills? It sounds like most of you that are so critical have some issues that are more serious than what someone else should look like. Others have tried to make a "superior " race. (Hitler). It could be that you are just plain ugly INSIDE, and that's MUCH worse. Besides- no matter how beautiful you are, you will get old and die too.

  • Posted By: rose_bud09 @ 12/08/2007 9:40:07 PM

    Being big doesnt mean you are not healthy. One thing a lot of people dont know is that the unhealthy fat is the fat the builds on your abdonim and stomach, in other words around your organs. A lot of it depends on you height and build og your body. I am 5'10 210lbs I do 1-3 hrs of yoga a day i am vegetarian and eat no white breadsor pastas, and all of my food is natural. And I and plenty healthy.

    • Posted By: AM82 @ 12/08/2007 9:51:19 PM

      I believe that very much! Like I said, I used to have no stomach, looked good, and had no health problems. Now I feel that after having my kids, I have stomach that will never go away and an addiction to food that makes me depressed and I know some people say they cut everything out of their diet, but oh my GOD!! How can you cut everything out, I would be so completely depressed if I could not go out at night and eat something, or go to a birthday party and not eat cake, I mean how do you do it?? Lean Cuisines has helped me lose so much weight, and they are so easy, with two kids, full time college and work, I do not know how I would do it without Lean Cuisines and easy to grab on the go food. Someone please give me some advice.

      • Posted By: rose_bud09 @ 12/08/2007 10:53:28 PM

        When i got myself down to a healthy weight ( I used to be like 270) i learned to eat things i liked in a healthy way like i love dairy products but soy based ones are much less fat. same thing with exercise i dont like competitive sports so I thought there was no hope for me untill a friend told me a about a book called Mega Yoga by meagan Garcia who does special plus sized yoga program, I loved it and it is so relaxing and it makes me feel better about myself.

    • Posted By: la123We @ 12/08/2007 10:17:37 PM

      Keep telling yourself that...no yoga or vegetarian diet will drop the weight. Only exercise will get results. You're an unhappy person trying to meet your weight half-way with new age tricks.

      • Posted By: rose_bud09 @ 12/08/2007 10:49:14 PM

        Ummmm... Yoga is exercise smart***

  • Posted By: whiteboyrob @ 12/08/2007 10:49:33 PM

    All this argument about weight really just comes down to what level of risk you are comfortable living with. The simple facts are, if you are overweight you have are at a higher level of risk for CHD, diabetes, hypertension, renal disease, and a slew of other chronic conditions. Obesity is really the only valid cause of Type II diabetes and the BEST way to get rid of it is to lose 10% of your body weight. As a medical professional it hurts to see obese people who are on 10 different kinds of medications and eventually progress into renal disease, need dialysis, lose appendages and become a health care burden to their friends, family, and health care providers all because they didn???t/couldn???t lose some weight. If you are ok with that kind of risk then neither I nor anyone else in this discussion will be able to convince you to lose weight.

    Miracle diets and BMI numbers are thrown around by so many people but it really just comes down to simple biochemistry and physiology. Your body has a basal metabolic rate and once you add your activity level to that you get a pretty specific calorie number. If you eat more than that number you gain weight, if you eat less you lose it???simple. There are tons of different body-weight equations that DO take into consideration body frame and muscle mass; they just require a little digging.

    There are so many angry people in this debate and so many people who are saying ???you don???t know my situation,??? and to them I say I do know science and I do know that no one can force you to make a long term change. That kind of change has to be self-derived and it can only be realized if you take an honest look at your lifestyle.

  • Posted By: hollybug85 @ 12/08/2007 10:45:44 PM

    It wasn't a very bright observation. It was a false sterotype that you are touting because you have a beef with fat people.

  • Posted By: codefool @ 12/08/2007 10:38:07 PM

    I see a couple of things here I want to comment on. The first thing I see is that people say that most overweight people keel over before 60. I'm taking the person who posted this hasn't worked around many older people. I hear some of the older set get this non sense from thier doctors that say oh well (if your 60) they say I don't see many people your weight at 70. Its crap, just think of all the 'normal' weight people that develop type two diabetes, all of the runners who drop dead of heart attacks. Fact there there is no hard connection between being overweight and an increase of disases, its based mostly on corrilations, which is like saying that everyone who has every drank water will die, therefore water kills.

    Next is the crap of good food, bad food. Overweight people more so than anyone else torture themselves over I can eat this food its good and I can't eat that food it's bad. Plus calorie and calrioe out has been busted for such a long time. If you exercise for one hour, on average thats about a calroie burn of 200-400 calories but yet for a male they recommend 2000 calroies, or for women 1200-1600. Something doesn't really add up there. Nothing ever worked for me before I discovered hill sprints and fasting. There's something about a 3 day fast and intense exercise that worked more so than anything else.

    Then there's the assumption of the ignorat that all overweight people eat junk food all day long. Actually this is mostly further than the truth and is fuled by ignorance more so than anything else. I've worked with weight loss clients over the years and I find in many instances the amount they eat isn't that far off from what a normal person needs. I find first they need to just clear out extra gluecose through a fast and relaize that fat burning has more to do with the amount of oxygen you expend versus what they are taught to waste hours on end on treadmills.

    But going back to good food and bad food. Heck I maintain my weight at 6' 180 and I eat at Burger King once a week and I still have sweets. I also do my hill sprints in the morning too but I just go crazy when I hear good food vs bad food. Sometimes I think people have to learn scale though, like say for instance if its 9pm and you want something sweet, a bowl of cerial is better than a candy bar given that they are the same amount of calories.

    Last I would like to leave those in the 18-30 group, no matter how you maintain things no, just wait until your body starts to slow down and you gain weight. Then wait for all those people to criticize you for being lazy. There are those out there, heck even was I was 18 I didn't have to do much to be 160, but as you age you have to do a bit more work. Sometimes I wish though that people would gain some knowledge before they spout out crap.

  • Posted By: msherrill @ 12/08/2007 10:19:09 PM

    Are you kidding me? Fat as the new normal? That is one of the most disturbing things I've heard in quite some time. On what planet is it okay to be obese? It is incredibly unhealthy for the obese person and uncomfortable for all those around them. Their loved ones cannot say much for fear that they are being too superficial and critical and strangers are at a loss to speak because it will be said that they are acting in a discriminatory manner. Let's cut all the politically correct bs. If you are more than 10 pounds heavier than you should be for your height and bone structure, you are in an unhealthy place and need to take action to lose the weight. Period. If that is the case, don't get upset when someone calls you fat. You are. Deal with it or do something about it.

    • Posted By: rose_bud09 @ 12/08/2007 10:36:35 PM

      Before you say fat is "Disturbing" look into anorexic and bulimic women, I think that is what is "disturbing. There are so many women, especialy the young, who see and hear comments like this that make them feel like freaks for their size and take drastic measure. You should realy start to think before you comment.

  • Posted By: la123We @ 12/08/2007 10:35:45 PM

    Holly Bug, I have volunteered in a nursing home for 2 years. I was just stating my observations. I am part of the public health system and it sickens me to see obesity at the rate it is today. I accept your statement that a lot of obese people could make it to nursing home age but that would also be bound with genetics and geographic location. I have a qoute for you: Robert Frost once said that education is the ability to listen to almost anything without loosing your temper.

  • Posted By: Vigil @ 12/08/2007 10:30:55 PM

    I am really bothered by all this big talk about BMI and how it is used to determine who is overweight and who is obese. BMI has never worked for me and I know I am not the only one. I have a waist 32 and a 51 inch chest. So this would Indecate that I work out often. I weigh 195 and I am 5'9. BMI claims that with those stats I am over weight actually borderline obese (29 BMI). How can someone with a size 32 waist be considered overweight or borderline obese? I don't know how this type of information can be a positive influence on anyone, let alone used to determine the level of obesity and overweight in America. I don't doubt that there is a problem with excessive comsuption of food and the lack of nutritional knowledge in our country, but to use the BMI as a tool to determine the reality of the weight problem in our country is not reality, and to some people could be really harmful. As a dietitian student, I don't agree that the current BMI works , thus, using this system to indicate the actual amount of the people out there with overweight problems is invalid. Furthermore it sure does not feel good to be told that I'm overweight because I happened to have muscles in my body. I know that there is a disclaimer, but how do the people that are taking those poles know to whom they apply? There has to be a better system out there.

  • Posted By: tat2dteacher @ 12/08/2007 10:30:06 PM

    Couple of points:
    There are medical conditions that do make weight loss (or keeping it off) very difficult. However, in tis country, far too many people use "health problems" or "genetics" as an excuse for why they are overweight. The truth for most is that no one made them overweight but them - their lifestyle, their lack of exercise, their poor food choices. I realize it's hard to make time to get moving, and that there is a LOT of misinformation out there. The food industry (not just fast food, but what's on the grocery store shelves, as well) definitely shares blame for the status quo.

    The truth is, even when most people think they're eating "healthy," they're not. The products being touted as so often have large amounts of sugar (High fructose corn syrup, anyone? It's in EVERYTHING.) But, with that said, it is very disturbing that there is a push to convince people that being overweight or obese is OK. IT IS NOT.

    Self-esteem and being healthy are two separate issues. Is every woman going to be a size 2 or every guy look like an Olympic swimmer with a total 8-pack? No. Does that mean it's OK to give up and stop striving to be the best YOU that you can be. Absolutely not.

    I get it that it's hard to make time in busy lives for working out, and it's much easier and more cost-effective (not to mention tastefully satisfying) to eat foods that are quick and easy. I'm a college student, working to put myself through school, and I ALWAYS find time for the gym. People look at me and say, "But you're skinny. You were born to be that way. I don't have those genes." To me, that is an insult to all of the blood (yes, blood), sweat, and tears that I have left behind on the gym floor to be in the kind of shape I'm in. I've EARNED this body.

    But too many people would rather try to shift the social mentality by preaching acceptance than to do the hard work and maintain the discipline it takes to get where you want to be. Being in shape isn't easy. If it was, we'd all look like Brangelina. But the hard work is worth it.

    For anyone interested in an eating lifestyle that actually works with what your body is biologically programmed to do, rather than try to bend it to your will through some new fad diet or some new magic pill, I recommend "Eating for Life," by Bill Phillips. Nothing to personally gain here; he's just a hero of mine.

    Check out my website @: www.xtremeworkoutgear.com

  • Posted By: gorgeousgeorge @ 12/08/2007 10:27:38 PM

    There's one problem with this whole piece: The automatic assumption that if a woman is fat, it MUST be because she does not eat "right" or exercise. I'm sure that's true of some fat women. But it's also true of plenty of thin women. It would also be nice if at least one reporter could grasp that BMI is simply a measurment of mass, not of health. It is never--NEVER--OK to comment on a stranger's body, no matter how big or how small that body is. And that is because you cannot tell a person's health, let alone his or her morality, from size alone.

  • Posted By: skinnyass @ 12/05/2007 1:21:43 PM

    Why would a person be obese if they don't need to be? Why don't you just stop eating twinkies it's not that hard? have some self controll you overweight freaks.

    • Posted By: kz4_jersey @ 12/08/2007 10:26:48 PM

      Unfortunately it is that hard for some people. Overeating is an addiction just like alcoholism. Eating causes your brain to produce that "feel good" feeling that everyone has. The only problem is that the more you eat the less this receptor works in your brain, meaning you need to eat more in order to get the same feeling. Its an endless cycle and for people who don't have other things to fill that feeling, they continue down what is called a "slippery slope". I have done a lot of research into obesity because my mother struggles with it and has for as long as I remember. When Iwas young I remember her weighing aound 200-250 lbs, and since I have become and adult and started a family of my own, her weight had reached a drastic amount of 360lbs. She was a single mom and was miserable, she wasn't alway overweight either. Even after having her first child she weighed only around 115lbs, but after two more kids and a failed marriage she got depressed. Thankfully she has lost around 80lbs over the past year but its difficult. Its like telling an alcoholic, ok you shouldn't get drunk but you have to drink atleast 3 glasses a day, and then you expect them never to slip up. A person has to eat to survive so its harder for them to quit the habit of overeating, especially if they have to cook for other people. When my brother was living with my mother she found she couldn't diet because of the foods HE brought into the house, it was too much for her. The only way she managed to lose the 80 lbs was to throw out anything that was tempting in the house, and you can't do that when you live with someone else.

    • Posted By: kz4_jersey @ 12/08/2007 10:25:02 PM

      Unfortunately it is that hard for some people. Overeating is an addiction just like alcoholism. Eating causes your brain to produce that "feel good" feeling that everyone has. The only problem is that the more you eat the less this receptor works in your brain, meaning you need to eat more in order to get the same feeling. Its an endless cycle and for people who don't have other things to fill that feeling, they continue down what is called a "slippery slope". I have done a lot of research into obesity because my mother struggles with it and has for as long as I remember. When Iwas young I remember her weighing aound 200-250 lbs, and since I have become and adult and started a family of my own, her weight had reached a drastic amount of 360lbs. She was a single mom and was miserable, she wasn't alway overweight either. Even after having her first child she weighed only around 115lbs, but after two more kids and a failed marriage she got depressed. Thankfully she has lost around 80lbs over the past year but its difficult. Its like telling an alcoholic, ok you shouldn't get drunk but you have to drink atleast 3 glasses a day, and then you expect them never to slip up. A person has to eat to survive so its harder for them to quit the habit of overeating, especially if they have to cook for other people. When my brother was living with my mother she found she couldn't diet because of the foods HE brought into the house, it was too much for her. The only way she managed to lose the 80 lbs was to throw out anything that was tempting in the house, and you can't do that when you live with someone else.

    • Posted By: Shannonigans @ 12/05/2007 3:27:49 PM

      Wow! I hope your family member aren't as completely ignorant as you are.

  • Posted By: AzAppySunset @ 12/08/2007 10:22:51 PM

    I have been reading these postings and the first thing that comes to mind as I scroll through them is the sad fact that a persons weight is NOT the biggest cause for concern here. The true cause for concern here if you really stop and listen to people, their comments, and what they are saying.. there is very clear forms of hatrid, cruelty, saddness, hopelesness, fear, anger, and untold quiet. It is amazing to me that here we are drawing battle lines in the sand. Thin versus Heavy. Some being cruel verbally with short narrow minds, some with an extreme amount of knowledge to share, and some who are living day to day with something that is not an "easy fix" that they can "just do it" and take off the pounds. I understand being unhealthy is an issue, and I am not saying that it is not. However, when did it become acceptable to say to each other some of the cruel things that are in these postings? Everyone here has issues in their own life they face every day. Weight may or may not be one of them. Here it is Christmas time and does it feel warm and loving when you meet strangers on the sidewalks? Do people smile at you and say hello when we pass by each other (heavy or thin)? Stress is everywhere...for the heavy person there are restaurants you can't eat in because all the restaurant cares about is how many people they can stuff in little boothes to make money. Clothing is most always a nightmare unless you really enjoy hawaiian flowers painted across your whole body, and finally the people. Head to toe looks that people just like the ones in here give in disgust. What right do you have to judge? For extremely thin people there is more discrimination as well, just in reverse. People think they must be throwing up everything they eat to look like that. WHAT right does anyone have to judge? Love is a very powerful thing..so is lack of it. When people want to take the time again to care about one another, then attitudes and in turn self images will improve. For everyone out there reading this...STOP....THINK!!! Think about how you effect others as well as how they effect you. Think about your issues before you are so quick to judge others issues. Love more, laugh more, be kind to one another!! Ignore the crap that dictates what we "should" be, and let's work on ourselves to be the best person we can be....starting with our hearts. Merry Christmas to all I hope each and every one of you have a safe and happy holiday!

  • Posted By: shelia0505 @ 12/08/2007 10:18:58 PM

    To Mr. Rugbyfit, who the hell are you to say Big is not Beautiful? You are one person with one little opinion. As far as fat people draining the health care system, I don't believe there is a certain size that's draining the health care system. Alcoholism and gambling is also a disease, and they come in all sizes, so maybe instead of doing away with the "fat people" stores, we should quit selling alcohol and LOTTERY TICKETS! As your standing in the checkout line next time, instead of being noisy and seeing what the other customers are buying, you should be practicing your own literary skills. So get off your ass and start studying.....

  • Posted By: hollybug85 @ 12/08/2007 10:16:58 PM

    Yla123We - LOL! You have OBVIOUSLY never stepped foot inside a nursing home! My mother is an RN, my husband is a CNA and I practically grew up in a nursing home visiting my grandmother. In fact, skinny old people in nursing homes are rare. So, before you try to sound smart, maybe you should re-count your brain cells and decide it's best to stay quiet!

  • Posted By: katy_igit @ 12/08/2007 10:13:56 PM

    Ok so this makes me mad, i'm underweight and have tried to gain weight my whole life and being told im unhealthy is wrong even my doctor says im fine that every person is unique some a bigger and some are small and you can not put a bmi or healthy weight lable on anyone.

  • Posted By: hollybug85 @ 12/08/2007 10:13:49 PM

    Yla123We - LOL! You have OBVIOUSLY never stepped foot inside a nursing home! My mother is an RN, my husband is a CNA and I practically grew up in a nursing home visiting my grandmother. In fact, skinny old people in nursing homes are rare. So, before you try to sound smart, maybe you should re-count your brain cells andddecide it's best to stay quiet!

  • Posted By: la123We @ 12/08/2007 10:05:13 PM

    It comes down to the law of natural selection. Let people become obese, they'll be dead before age 60. You don't see many obese people in nursing homes because they're dead way before that age.

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