Anatomy of a Turnabout

I see !!! The u.s. of a. did the right thing (disclosed that iran discontinued its nuke program; for fear that the information would be leaked anyway. Makes me soooo dam proud. Brings a patriotic tear to me eye, I tell ya.

Then, we are told that the embargo of $$$, medical supplies, food and so on (euphemistically called sanctions) was the main reason that iran stopped its program. Excuse me if I am a tad skeptical, but bull butter !!!! When (and if) the true is EVER told, iran stopped its program because it wasn't feasible for THEM, at that time.

And to compound the injustices of that soveriegn nation by the good ole u.s. of a. -- provocative 'demands' about 'full disclosure' and continued inflammatory rhetoric streams from the white house. Nor, does the administration have the 'confidence' needed to begin talks with that nation.

As the man said: decadence is when the masses accept futility and absurdity as the norm. I'd say we've reached that point. Bill S. Missouri

You know, maybe Iran does not have to make it's own nukes. Seems they are pretty tight with Russia. The sudden end to an aggressive nuclear development program? Hummm. Hypothetically speaking, if the US had knowledge of a nuclear transaction would we publically declare it only to be scoffed at by the those who seek igorance. Maybe Iran knows what its talking about when they say Isreal will be wiped off the face of the map. Don't let the news of "no evidence" vindicate Iran. Judge with your ears and eyes. Why is Syria suddenly going so hush hush. Look at story about MySpace being shut down. Could it be they are worried abourt loose lips?

People need to know that the Jews and the Arabs have the same father, Profit Abraham, peace be upon him. Profit Abaraham is from Ur, Mespotamia (Iraq). Therefore, Arabs and Jews are stepbrothers, both are Semites and Arabs!

Thanks Keith Obermann, I couldnt have said it any better myself
MSNBC, Keith Obermann dated December 6, 2007 8:PM.

I am more concerend with why it is coming out now.I believe we need to first take care of the american people . Our jobs and resources are farmed out over see . The coust of living is raising , jobs pay less.Benifets and health care suck.We are being flooded with immagration burdens.Still we turn everything over to china. The great china.They own our factories.They were given our tecnology. They own most of our companys .They bought our oil, coal , copper , and steel resources. They have bought our trade roughts and now control our ports. They are growing there military.Building tanks and ships. Training there military . Increasing there tecnology. Shooting satilites in space with lasers. You are looking at the wrong military.

i am tired of people comming into our country and taking our rights from us.We have the right of our religon in public. we have the right to freedom of speach, and we have the right to protect our familys. So take your gods and your beliefs back to your backward countrys and leave. Americans have been tolerant for there past evils. We have made mastakes we held onto savery , we killed indians, and hispanics and took there land. We have acted like savages just like all other countrys have .We do not wish to continue in imperilism. but we americans grow tired of forien views in our country. i will warship my God in my country .

My comments are not meant to scare anyone, there purpose is too provide AWARENESS. We must not be scared but vigilient. We have to pay attention to what going on in the world so we can prevent disasters. Unfortuantely, there are people in this world who only know how to criticize; they cannot offer any solution. Let's take the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. There are factions on both side that never want peace. People on those country have to want peace. There has to be committees made up of common people on both sides and they have to demand their governments work out a pece negotitation. Our allies have to be strong and the world must demand that these two side come to some sort of agreement for the better good. We do not need to get in ZIonism and all this we need solutions. We need to make peace a popular choice, not some complicated plan that divides peopole. One two parties have been fighting for thousands of years then we must accept that peace won't come easy and that both sides must give up something. There is no way one side can get completely what the want. The next President must be able to put pressure on both sides and the international community to solve this problem These problems are all interrelated. My comments are meant to move the argument to a solutions discussion. Every criticism I read today I have read before it is nothing new or enlightening.

It is most deligtful to go through life as an american ,being leed to live in constant feer of geet nuked by anyone at any time. The United States created this horror and now causes its citizens to live with this on a daily basis. Happy Holidays

Well eddie, at least we agree about the Patriot Act. The truth is that Americans are now and always have been far more paranoid about our own government than we will ever be about some foreign "terrorists". Do me a fovor and define terrorist, would you?

As for critisizing Israel, well, it's hard not to. I take it you still haven't studied yet have you? We just get lumped in with them because of our blind support for them in their illegal actions. Have you looked up Zionism yet? Ever wonder why the Christian organizations in Palestine support the Arabs and not the Israeli's? I can tell you it's because Israel is doing it to them as well as the Arabs. Basically, if you aren'y Jewish and you live on land they want, well, you get the picture.

We have a lot of guilt in this country about how the Nazi's treated the Jewish people but that doesn't give Israel the right to act like Nazi's themselves. You do know what lebensraum means, don't you. A perfect definition for Israel's actions since their founding.

"No one can PROTECT US" Too BAD. WHat kind of statement is that, you need to go live in The Middle East you do not belong in this country. It is the terrorist that need protection now. There only option is suicide. Only people who want to committ suicide would be dumb enough to join a terrorist movement. Once again people are scared to with these twisted organizations because they fear America. WE are the good guys but we are not your mother. We cannot spoon feed your people. You have to feed your own people. We can help you get rid of your evil regimes so your people can get decent jobs, buy a pair of shoes and some food. I would donate can goods to these countries but the people getting the donations are the terrorist and selfish regimes. Why are you not criticizning the government of the Middle East why are you criticizing the one country that can help you achieve salvation here own earth. Your people are starving and their you are committing suicide in the Name of God. You need to go to the Middle East and help your people. While you stuff yourself full of American TURKEY, your people are starving. And the only thing you can do is criticize AMerica and Israel. Just like Middle-Eastern governments. I like the point you made about civil liberties. Securtiy measures taken here at home do infact have the potential to threaten our civil liberties. ie. Patriot Act. This is a legitimate concern and an issue I have been monitoring closely. It is very important who we elect ot office. New security laws allow the government to infiltrate dangerous organizations however if this power is abused, civil liberties would be in jeopardy.

"what about the problems I mentioned face America. You want to Camaflouge the real problem."

What real problems face us? If it's terrorist threats and Iranian defiance, TOO BAD. You can't punish people for crimes they haven't committed, and when it comes to terrorists NOBODY can protect us from people willing to give their life to make a statement. I personally think that demands that we allow intelligence agencies to violate our basic freedoms to "protect us" are fundamentally flawed.

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin


"Their people are poor and starving, so they find an enemy like the United States or Israel and use religion to insight anger against us."

Even were this insulting statement true, wouldn't the "good guy" tactic be to address the root cause by providing relief and focusing on aiding their development, rather than blindly strongarming them into submission? The focus would have to be overwhelmingly positive on our end to inspire any trust in our interests there. As it stands, we're overseas for the simple goal of securing the oil resources that constitute the lifeblood of our economy.


"Religion is a tool to control the masses. "

Absolutely agree... I hope you realize the implications when you push your personal beliefs in public forums. You are practically begging people to view your outlook with disdain. I do not appreciate any attempt to use fear of imaginary consequences to cause me to cooperate with corruption.

This country was founded by pilgrims who came over on the May Flower. They were not Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu. They were Christians. Christianity helped to unite this country. It is not the only thing that this country was founded on however it was a very important entity in uniting the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IN GOD WE TRUST. I am in the security field. And I am trying to get people to move from criticism to solution. We need to find solutions to problems but we cannot do that if people are in denial. Once again the break-away republics of Russia and the technological advancement of China are potential threats. We need a President who can manage these relationships so we can avoid using force, however some organizations and factions need to be forced. What is your solution. My Teddy name is BARBECUE.

Someone is little bit misguided. First, if "In God We Trust" is true then we would need not lie in order to got o war. Second, if this was truly "our country" those who came before with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other would not have murdered, raped, and robbed the people who were already here. Third, again, if the Iranians or any other country want to have a country with the freedoms of the U.S. they have to fight for it, not us. This country can only do so much after that it's up to the people of that nation. We have our own problems with "big brother" watching us.

You go live in the Sudan then come back and tell me what you think. I am not critizing any religion. I am just asserting that people need to understand that we will not continue to have these threats over our shoulder. They have to be dealt with. Force is the last option. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS; and we will attack if necessary. Christianty is a tolerant religion. America is a very tolerant country we allow people to disrespect our our founding religion in our own country. In America we have free will. We do not want people to be forced to adhere to anything we just want them to love their country like their forefathers before them. I can tell that all you care about is religion, what about the problems I mentioned face America. You want to Camaflouge the real problem. The strategy of Middle East countries is too divert attention from the real problem which is people are sick of being poor. Their people are poor and starving, so they find an enemy like the United States or Israel and use religion to insight anger against us. Religion is a tool to control the masses. Unfortunately, there is no seperation of church and state or mosque and state. So people leave their country come to America and then criticize us and our religion. IN GOD WE TRUST. I hope you can respect that.

By the way eddiewhere, what is the rest of what you just quoted about the "big stick"? The real expression is "Walk softly, but carry a big stick". Is everyone in the world supposed to fear us and be scared of us? Guess what, the rest of the world aren't cowards any more than we are. By all means, I'll be the first person to kill people who blow up civilians with bombs but are you planning on nuking every country that doesn't like us or disagrees with us or doesn't "toe the line".

Do you do this in your personal life or are you writing us from prison?

The question you need to ask is why doesn't Iran like us? Why did they take hostages after they kicked out the Shah of Iran? How did the Shah of Iran get in power in the first place? Why is it that Arab extremists lump us with Israel in their hate propaganda? Do you think it's a fluke? Do you think that we are blameless shining angels and that our political leaders never do anything wrong in our names and that they always tell us the truth? Do you think that Israel isn???t stealing land and that we are not covering for them while they do it? Do you believe that the U.N. doesn???t rank Israel #4 in human rights abuses and that the rest of the Middle Eastern countries don???t have so much animosity for us because of that? Do you not believe that Israel has the largest lobbying group in Washington and that it???s said that a politician cannot get elected president of this country without their ok? Have you ever looked up the definition of Zionism in the dictionary? How about ethnic cleansing? Don't be naive!

Do you think that Arabs are inhuman monsters bent on world domination and hate us just because we stand in their way? Don't get me wrong; I served my country in the military and love it as much or more than any of you here. It's just that I actually know something about history and while I'm a patriot, as I have already proven the hard way (which is more than most of you can say), I don't allow that patriotism to be manipulated by the powers that be to support their own agendas. When you can answer the questions I posed above you will start to have some idea of what the rest of the world already knows and that Americans are misled by. Have you ever even looked at maps of the Palestinian issue and the Apartheid Wall to determine for yourself what the issues are?

Use your brain and learn something instead of being told what to believe and then you will have some idea what the rest of the world and I are talking about. If you decide not to study the issues and learn from them to make your own decisions then you will always be easily confused and misled. The only difference between some of our leaders and the extremists their purport to fight is a different flavor of the same nuts.

The people living under fundamentalist regimes must fight for their own rights as the people in the U.S. did. The U.S. was not founded as a Christian nation. The people in power, the forefather's, were for the most part Christians, but they made sure that when they wrote the Bill of Right's that it would ensure a separation of Church and State because they too ran and fought against the Crown which was overwhelmingly run by religious fundamentalists; let us never forget the Crusades for if you was a Jew or any other religion you would have been tortured, had your tongue cut out or even beheaded. So let not Christians be so self-righteous. The U.S., although through lies and deceit caused the war with Iraq, it shook the foundations of the Middle East especially that of Iran, thus if the people feel that they want a regime change and want to get away from fundamentalist rule it is wholly their choice and their move to do what is necessary. It is up to them to sacrifice thier lives for their families, thier future, and their country. Whether right or wrong, our job is done. It is time to reconciliate with other countries and repair the damage caused by this regime, restore credibility with other nations, and together there can be a united effort toward a resolution concerning Iran and its nuclear program.

"It is important that certain countries understand that they face annihilation if they continue to threaten us"... "We are the good guys."

I hope you can appreciate the conflict in those statements. Good guys don't immediately jump to the most violent means possible.


"It is time people start respecting Christianity, the religion that this country was founded on. Citizens of any other country would not tolerate this blasphemy. They just locked an English lady up for naming her Teddy Muhamed."

Did you REALLY just criticize people for not adhering your religion as blasphemers, than criticize another religious group for religious intolerance? You sound just as dogmatic as any other lunatic zealot. And our country is NOT founded on any religion, other than a belief in freedom from oppressive thought just like this.


This reactionary nonsense makes my head spin. Get some perspective.