Anatomy of a Turnabout

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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 11:41:15 AM

    I like that quote. Unfortunately, some people know we have a big stick, but do not respect it. So sometimes you have to use it, if not they will continue with their madness. Iran is just a little part of a much larger problem. China's technological advancement and Russia's volatile break-away republics pose a serious threat to America. I am not trying demonize these people, I am just stating the facts. WE HAVE TO OBSERVE POTENTIAL THREATS AND keep them in check. We need a President who can successfully manage these relationships so we do not have to annihilate anyone. However, some people have to learn the hard way and force is the only thing that will keep them in check. Bin Laden is in check, now it is just a matter of finding him. By brut force we were able to scare Bin Laden and the Taliban organization. People are scared to have anything to do with that organization because they know the result, BARBEQUE.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 4:25:15 AM

    Kindablue your comment are not correct. You need to understand that CHina and Russia are potential threats and if their arsernals which include nuclear, biological, chemical weapons along with plans detailing ttechnological attacks are shared with terrorist organizations then we are in trouuble. That is not demonizing the people ot these countries. It is merely stating the facts that government officials in these countries are exposed to massive corruption. Russia is not a stable country and they are rule by oligarchy. This is not a FABRICATED CRISIS; I guessed you missed the article on the three men last week, all from eastern european descent, who had weapons grade uranium. This Zionist crap has to stop. Communism collapsed in Russia; WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT KINDADUMB. I guessed they bowed down to westernization. You whole argument is KINDADUMB and please read what I say and do not invent. You too offer no solution just useless babble.

    • Posted By: Fatalbert @ 12/06/2007 11:25:59 AM

      Eddiewhere

      I beleve Teddy Roosevelt's "Speak softly but carry a big stick" could be even more relevant today than it was 100 years ago +/-. If the situation in Iran was so dire because of nukes that Dubya and his Axis of Stupidity (himself, Cheney and Rummy) needed to go to war, why did they pick on a 5th rate dictator in Iraq wher he thought there were WMD rather than taking on Iran or North Korea, where they "knew" there wer WMD? That question seems to be overlooked consistently. You imply that Iran stopped their nuke program in 2003 when we invaded Iraq, but why did we not go right to the roots of the problem and take on the big guys? Dubya and his ilk are no more than petulant schooly yard bullies who pick on those they think they can beat up. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED??!! Yeah, right.

  • Posted By: glyon17 @ 12/06/2007 10:57:53 AM

    Yeah! Iran gave up nuclear weapons in 2003!!! Now, if we can only remember what year it was that we invaded Iraq, and then maybe ask ourselves, "why did iran give up nuclear weapons?"

  • Posted By: jstepp590 @ 12/06/2007 9:13:18 AM

    Yeah! Now if we can get Israel to give up the West bank, all their prisoners, end their Zionist efforts and start treating the Palestinians like human beings maybe we will finally have peace in the middle east.

  • Posted By: tyler214 @ 12/06/2007 9:08:19 AM

    The whole frame of these comments is insane. "Which country should we destroy next, before they can try to destroy us?" This is the attitude of a violent paranoid madman, not a rational being. Our country has the largest military force in the world, bases in over 100 other countries, and yet we are afraid, always afraid. The lives lost on 911 have been avenged 100 times over but in Iraq, which had nothing to do with that attack on our soil. How sad that our once proud country now resembles a lunatic, heavily armed and having killed already, and muttering about who he will kill next in deluded "self-defense".

  • Posted By: pjoe2 @ 12/06/2007 9:02:27 AM

    After all the bluster about the international community meaning Israel and tha U.S. not allowing the Iranians to acquire nuclear weapons, threatening to blast their nuclear sites with bunkerbuster bombs, reminding how the Isralies were able to take out Iraq's nuclear sites, and sending our detroyers to the persian gulf to menace the Iranians, to do nothing would have made our threats to look hollow. But, since people with some sense like defense seratery Gates persuaded the boss that taking on Iran while still bogged down in Iraq and Afganistan would be an unmitigated disaster, they needed a face saving way out of not attacking Iran. Hence the disclosure. Joseph Puthenpurayil, Pittsburgh

  • Posted By: ayoss58 @ 12/06/2007 6:34:03 AM

    Eddiewhere, what tragic facts?. The only facts permeating your "FABRICATED CRISIS" is your anti-Zionist, anti-western stances.What's more, your bias and ignorance smacks of Arabism, the worst kind of racism on earth today !!!.Have you ever heard about fee-speech?. This forum is not in your totalitarian Islamic states but in the west.Why stop Zionism?. Zionism has not declared war on the West,Islamo-fascism and Arabism have and that's why we Zionism more than ever to defeat Islamism and Arabism!!!.

  • Posted By: ayoss58 @ 12/06/2007 6:04:00 AM

    Why should we believe the new and not the old NIE???.Remember how Iraqi exile opposition figures like Dr. Ahmad Salabi were able to dupe and mislead US intelligence???. Working on the premise that the new CIA is still the old CIA, it didn't take much imagination for Ahmadinejad to order his scientists to complain loudly about the "shut down" of the nuclear program(planting disinformation) and getting some top General(Ali Asgari) to stage a defection. Classical textbook disinformation campaign executed with shia precision.How Ahmadinejad must be dying of laughter isn't difficult to imagine!!!.
    What are the assessement of Isreali, french and British intel?. How much of Iranian nuclear weapon secret did Asagari know? Nothing!!!.Where's Ali Asgari now?.Has he not been spirited back to Teheran to be executed to give more credibility to the lies he spread???.
    Like Saddam, Ahmadinejad cannot keep his mouth shut.So why is he claiming victory now and vowing to continue.....continue what???.Do we really believe Iran with the second largest oil reserve in the world, needs to develop nuclear energy???.One must be a moron to believe that!!!.
    I say now is give him the surprise of his life; a surprise, lightening air-strikes to take-out once and for all his nuclear capability!!!.The arguments that Iran will counter-attack by disrupting oil supplies and mount terrorist attacks in the West are all redundant because oil prices are at all time high and will continue climbing with or without a strike; and Iran now is terrorising the world both psychologically and physically as shown in Iraq,lebanon and the Gaza.What is new, nothing but the continuation of psychological and economic terror from Islamic Republic of Iran.Unless, we bring into play our greatest advantage,military machine, of which the Hayyatohs are scared to death of; we shall be inviting the envitable----a dirty bomb exploding in our midsts!!!.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 4:03:52 AM

    UKRAINE IS A BEAK_AWAY RUSSIAN REPUBLIC I NEVER SAID IT WAS ONE OF THE 5 MUSLIM STATES IN CENTRAL ASIA. UKRAINE IS IN EASTERN EUROPE. I DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION.

  • Posted By: kindablue72@hotmail.com @ 12/06/2007 3:54:36 AM

    Eddiewhere: Ukraine is not a "Muslim state;" it's about 90 percent Christian,.

    The attempt to demonize Russians, Ukrainians, and other people of the Former Soviet Union comes from the same countries, organizations, and people who want us to bomb Iran -- namely Israel and its suppoters -- regardless of whether or not Iran has nuclear weapons or the ability to produce them. Without these elements this fabricated "crisis" (not to mention the very real one which we have wholly produced in Iraq) would not exist in the first place. These are the trajic facts that, to most Americans, remain obscured. To discover them we will need to make war with another one or more of Israel's -- ahem, excuse me, "our" enemies.

    Sounds far-fetched? Conisder that Russia and China are the last countries to have yet to bow down at the alter of Zionist power, and the Russia and its people are the age-old enemies of Israel's primary constiuency -- the Jews.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 3:10:55 AM

    IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND CLEARLY WHAT A CANDIDATES SOLUTON ARE, THEN HOW CAN YOU VOTE FOR THEM?

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/06/2007 12:19:57 AM

    WHICH CANDIDATE CAN HANDLE THIS SITUATION BEST AND WHY? Provide PROOF; WHO HAS THE BEST SOLUTION??
    WITHOUT RUSSIA IRAN WOULD HAVE NOTHING. Why can't the pubic see that the real threat are the break-away republics of Russia(most notably the 5 Muslim States in Central Asia and the Ukraine)crime families in Eastern Europe and the technological advancement of China. Iran, Pakistan, India, all countries in Africa have no means of deploying a successful nuclear attack. Let's take care of the nuclear, chemical and biological weapons that already exist not on those that do NOT EXIST. Once a new regime takes form they have to seperate church and state in a moderate fashion. We have to do this right, we cannot afford to go into Iran blind we have to do it intelligently through conduits of success. The fact are THAT RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE THE KEYS TO KEEPING THAT SIDE OF THE WORLD TAME. AfriCA is an enigma in that it there is not solution to there problems; I guess the global community is just hoping more die than live in Africa; and that the 1st world can continue their research projects. We really need to pick the best candidate. Be honest.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 12/05/2007 11:01:50 PM

    But the majority of Americans are indifferent towards the whole issue, thus it will make no difference whatsoever to the presidential campaign, American presidency and policies towards Iran. The people will still be manipulated and be lied by the president, and they will not give a damn. It will therefore be the same for who ever becomes the next president. He or she can do whatever, tell lies everyday and definitely will get away with it, all with the consent of the majority!

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/06/2007 12:15:41 AM

      Many ignorant, few indifferent. I have no emnity to Persians. I went to school with them during the time before the revolution. This madness is a waste and wrong. I believe there will be change, and I hope for the good. I feel a revolution building here. One fo our Presidents warned about trying to fool all the people all the time. This has been done for too long. It is the innocent who suffer the worst.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/06/2007 12:11:54 AM

    To scare the *** out of everyone, as it goes nicly with the Bin-Lauden-who tape, this week or last. so you vote for the GOP as they did vote Bush, the second time around, cause a Bin-who tape mysteriously appered, just before the election and he voted Bush, and Bush told of doom, if, and we ate it up, popping in our pants and all! Fear is the mind killer! now we are willing to bleed big time for a thought, and a maybe, and around 2012, if ,so we need to crap our pants now, and launch cause they wish to have 1/850th the American arsonel and 1/95th as strong as Israel, why do we not treat Israel as a threat!!! Because we need to bleed for the largest military in the region-why? FEAR FEAR FEAR eat it up its what they feed on FEAR without it the GOP does not exist!!

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