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  • Posted By: Wundawoman @ 12/29/2007 2:47:23 PM

    After losing 60 lbs over a number of years by diet and exercise, I'm still considered to be overweight (by about 25 lbs.) and I struggled every day about what I eat and about whether I've moved enough just to maintain the weight loss. Meanwhile, I have an overweight co-worker who took the easy way out -- surgery. Yes, I said easy and I mean easy. While I have to use every fiber of my being just to keep weight off, she blithely never tried watching what she ate beyond a fad diet or two and always offered excuses not to exercise. In my opinion, everyone should be able to get by-pass surgery if they want it, or no one should. I'm trying not to be bitter about it, but it's unfair.

    • Posted By: SingingWoman @ 01/05/2008 3:58:09 PM

      I wholeheartedly agree. I am so sick and tired of people touting gastric bypass surgery as this wonderful thing when no one talks about the real dangers of it. All many recipients of this surgery are really thinking about is what size they wear and how they look to other people. Not long-term health and happiness. And even if you do lose 120 pounds in a year, thin does not equal happiness or being healthy. In this looks-obsessed country, all that really matters is the end result, and no matter how you lost the weight, all some people care about is how you look afterwards. I don't give Megan a high-five. She did take the easy way out. Come back to me when you have taken the time to really try to lose the weight without surgery or quick fixes or pills. Do Tae-Bo 4-5 times a week, try to eat better and see if that works. I am also tired of the blatant fat hate that this country shows for fat people. Most people would rather have cancer than be fat. Fat = bad and thin = good, no matter what, right? Some of you who are cheering Megan have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE!!! And NO, not all fat people can simply lose weight by changing their eating and exercising. Sometimes, more is needed to get their metabolism going, but surgery is not the way!!! Some of you really need to get over your prejudice of fat people!!!

  • Posted By: wallybare @ 12/12/2007 7:55:45 AM

    ecause some 'thin' people who feel they are the epitome of beauty and health and who apparently have a medical condition that forces them to respond repulsively towards the obese (it must be a medical condition. Why would these normally kind 'thin' people choose to be so unkind? Right?) regardless of whether a persons obesity is medical or choice, they will all be lumped together as one can not tell them apart - and don't ask these 'thin' people to behave like civilized adults and to stop being so cruel. It will never happen. Unless of course a cure is found (for the 'thin' person condition that is).

    The obese need to lose the weight - any way they can, but preferably by means approved of by the 'thin' people. Surgery is not allowed. That's not ok with them.
    Need to quit smoking? Use a patch or a pill. You don't need self-control. Need to prevent a birth? Take a pill or use a condom. You don't need self-control. Need to get rid of a birth? Get an abortion! Stomach falling apart after years of abuse? Take a pill! Don't change your eating habits. Blood pressure up? Take a pill! Don't change your life style. Can't stay awake? Drink coffee, take an upper, drink some redbull. You don't need to change your life style. Got wrinkles? Going bald? Teeth falling out? Boobs drooping? *** too small? Or doesnt work anymore? All issues that can be altered by surgery. Hey! Break your leg skiing - now that is a 'choice' - ya know, you chose to go skiing, do you deserve a cast? Or surgery to repair the bone? Im thinking that because all of these things can happen to a 'thin' person, they are all acceptable cures. But for some odd reason, some 'thin' people do not approve of surgery to lose weight.
    We teach our children how to deal with these types of kids when they are growing up. We call them 'bullys', 'trouble makers'. But I guess that all changes when you grow up. When you grow up, they are called 'thin people'.

    • Posted By: HeatherC46 @ 01/01/2008 5:29:10 PM

      I am glad that you used the word "some" in your last paragraph when referring to "thin people", because all the other times, you lumped us all together. Yes, I am one of "those" people. Not all of us are bullies, not all of us disapprove of surgery as a means to lose weight, and not all of us turn our noses up at obese individuals. I do find it interesting however, that it is so important that we "thin people" do not lump together or stereotype the obese, but in turn, most thin people are stereotyped as disapproving of the obese population.

      The only time that I take up issue with overweight people is with my father, who desperately needs to lose weight. I fear that he will not be around to do such things as walking me down the aisle. Those individuals do have the power to change their lives and I can only hope to be encouraging and supportive throughout their struggle.

  • Posted By: HawkeyeGirl @ 12/28/2007 9:03:01 AM

    Donna Knight-Health Insurance companies being rich is one of the most pervasive myths out there. I work for an insurance company, and I've seen the profit margins. Yes, there plenty of other illnesses contributing to the high cost of health insurance, but obesity and the associated illnesses-heart disease, diabetes, etc.-is the most pervasive and the most preventable with a little willpower.

  • Posted By: HawkeyeGirl @ 12/21/2007 4:20:49 PM

    I am thin myself, and I work my tail off at the gym and watch what I eat to stay that way. I have nothing but respect for the heavy people who come to the gym and do what they can on the treadmills. They are doing something about the fact that they are unhealthy.

    What burns me are the excuses the morbidly obese make. At what point does acceptance become harmful to society? My health insurance rates are through the roof because I am subsidizing the extreme health needs of the obese. My secretary is a great person, but she is morbidly obese, and she refuses to exercise or cut back on the constant eating of junk food. She cannot walk up a flight of stairs. She walks in to work from the parking lot red and sweating from the exertion, and she has a close handicapped spot because of her obesity!

    I despise the way our society approaches weight. The too-skinny ideals of Hollywood aren't possible without eating disorders and structured diets and exercise that normal people can't afford, but the push to simply accept obesity with open arms is just as bad! I am 5'8" and I weigh 140 lbs. I exercise all of the time, and my body fat is about 18%. That is somewhere between normal and excellent health, but I still get snickers that my muscular frame is too large, and that makes me hate my body too.

    Why can't we all aim for healthy? Compliment and praise the people who work hard to be healthy, and encourage the too thin and the too fat to get there. Most of all, STOP showering the too thin with compliments, and STOP rewarding the obese with subsidized health insurance and handicapped parking passes.

  • Posted By: sonia8 @ 12/14/2007 2:35:54 PM

    Congratulations on your success, your obvious clarity and your continued sensitivity towards the prejudice overweight people endure. At the root of weight problems- too much weight or too little- is invariably psychological issues that need examination and working through. Throw on top of that our screwed-up sociatal fixation with physical perfection and it's a wonder anything gets accomplished sometimes. As for the Bevery Hills parents who did not want "fat" people as a nanny- I think we have to open our minds a bit to other possible reasons besides snobbery or prejudice. Being excessively overweight usually signals an addiction or other psychological strugges, just as excessive drinking or doing drugs does. In addition, the parents have a right to want their children's caretakers to model healthy habits (nutrition, exercise, lifestyle) to their kids. Sorry if that sounds insensitive. But their is another side to the coin of sheer ignorant disdain- which I abhor.

    • Posted By: perm3800a @ 12/20/2007 1:21:13 PM

      sonia8 writes that 'being excessively overweight usually signals an addction or other psychological stugges [sic]...." immediately following her comment on the BH matron refusing the size 16 nanny. Siz sixteen is not necessarily 'excessively overweight' as I once carried 178# of LEAN mass, back when I was into weight rooms and long distance walking and, at 117#, I still required a size fourteen in trousers to accomodate a very wide pelvis and very strong thighs. I also had to take them to the tailor to have the basketball sized gap in the waist reduced. There is no one-size-fits-all and I still can't see where Tara Reid, Terry Hatcher or Kate Moss can inspire lust in anyone - in me they inspire an urge to donate to Feed the Children. They don't remind me of beauty and glamor, they remind me of the Holocaust.

  • Posted By: qbertina @ 12/19/2007 4:09:15 PM

    "I said nothing about clothes sizes"

    But the article did.

  • Posted By: betsypickles @ 12/18/2007 4:21:01 PM

    People can be amazingly heartless, as both the article and many of the comments below illustrate. To those of you who advise "self control"--has it ever occurred to you that reformed alcoholics, smokers, and drug users can stop by never touching the problem substance again? But fat people must eat. I seriously doubt any of you self-righteous folk can imagine what it is like to constantly control what you eat, how much you eat, and to feel unsatisfied most of the time. I'd like to see an alcoholic have one drink a day. It's no wonder we lapse!!! Oddly, I am losing weight right now because I am full really quickly these days. So I don't really deserve "credit" for the loss, and I probably have some dreadful disease that is causing the weight loss. But all I hear is how "wonderful" I look. Nuts to the nay-sayers.

  • Posted By: tonigrace @ 12/17/2007 5:16:00 PM

    Bravo Megan!! I had gastric bypass, too. I was 22 at the time and I just had my 5-year "anniversary" yesterday. Sometimes I can forget the "fat girl" I used to be. Most of the people I am around on a daily basis never knew "her." But, I do tell almost everyone I meet (eventually) that I've had "that surgery" and I get mixed reactions. Mostly shock that I was ever large enough to need it. I tell people because I hope that the more people learn about it and meet post-op patients (and see that we're "normal") the less stigma there will be. Thank you for being one of our voices.

  • Posted By: sonia8 @ 12/17/2007 1:25:58 PM

    qbertina- you've gotten totally off my point. I said nothing about clothes sizes, and you are debating BMI which has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I said that being excessively overweight indicates some underlying issues and unhealthy habits. And, you may notice that I included being underweight and overweight as similar problems in their basis. Regarding your couch potato theory, there are people who have slender builds, but they can still gain weight. There are others who have healthy lifestyles and are in GREAT shape, but have more "stocky" builds. If they are others lump them into the "fat" category, they are just idiots. For their own good they need to get a perspective, focus on more interesting things and reject society's current ideal of the ultra-slender build.

  • Posted By: qbertina @ 12/16/2007 12:07:36 AM

    Sonia8, you honestly think a size 16 person is more likely than a size 6 to be a trainwreck? Lots of vegetarians and runners wear bigger sizes than that -- you don't even have to hit the "obese" BMI category (which starts smaller than where you'd think-- google "BMI Project") to be a 16. And it's about as hard to overeat and couch-potato yourself fat if your body really wants to be thin as vice versa.

  • Posted By: thelmalouise @ 12/14/2007 5:12:27 AM

    How AWESOME for you! Congradulations on the success of your surgery! I too have recently had gastric bypass, and it took me quite a number of years to decide to go through with it. A majority of people would just ASSUME that people who become obese, are just lazy, lay around watching t.v. eating everything in sight! Nothing could be farther from the truth. We are all different, we who SUFFER with this affliction! I know because I have been going through it most of my life! While I have lost 79 pounds thus far (27 before surgery), it is a LIFE-LONG adjustment to getting healthy again and remaing that way so as not to end up with Diabetes, High blood pressure, High cholesterol, acid reflux, artritic hands and knees, fibromyalgia (and that's just to name a FEW) AGAIN! Although there was ALOT of PAIN involved in the surgery and many unpleasant things you have to go through afterwards, I would do it all again! I did not have this surgery to LOSE weight, NO, I did it so I could LIVE AGAIN and be a HEALTHIER and HAPPIER person. I resemble alot of the comments on this page and identify with more than I wish to admit to! But the people who think it's just a matter of "putting down the fork and getting up off our ASSES" need to be EDUCATED about people with obesity. I want to thank you for wiriting this article and I wish you every sucess in life! You look MARVELOUS!
    One day soon, I too wish to be among those who are considered one of the "beautiful" people again, BUT I have ALWAYS been beautiful on the inside! As for other people, I haven't a clue what their problems are, but they need more help than I!

    Sincerely,

    A fellow bypass Patient

  • Posted By: ansextra @ 12/13/2007 2:56:55 PM

    I've been morbidly obese for most of my life. Over the past 2.5 years I've lost just over 100 pounds by using diet and exercise and following Weightwatchers Online. It can be done without surgery!
    The difference in lifestyle is amazing!

  • Posted By: ansextra @ 12/13/2007 2:54:50 PM

    I've been morbidly obese for most of my life. Over the past 2.5 years I've lost just over 100 pounds by using diet and exercise and following Weightwatchers Online. It can be done without surgery!
    The difference in lifestyle is amazing!

  • Posted By: nanon @ 12/09/2007 12:58:05 AM

    jared_b... sigh. The *pancreas,* via cells called the Islets of Langerhans, make insulin. The kidneys function is to regulate salt and water content in the blood. Geez, at least do a google search before you start pontificating on your medical opinions. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/438368 Oh, and "choise" is actually spelled "choice."

    Type 2 diabetes is often caused by being overweight, which can be remedied by diet and exercise, but often the first thing that needs to happen is that a person gets their diabetes under control. Diabetes has an effect on all of your systems, and having diabetes is, in fact, a reason that a person may not be able to exercise for weight loss. Dieting can also be problematic, unless it's followed by a good endocrinologist. And finally, diabetes can wreak havoc with mood stability, which is directly tied to energy levels and food intake.

    There are no simplistic answers to this, but your lack of basic physiology can lead to simplistic thinking.

    • Posted By: amosdee @ 12/13/2007 2:24:36 PM

      Thank you for your comment. jared_b needs to brush up on his biology/ human physiology.

  • Posted By: Bullsfan @ 12/13/2007 10:09:07 AM

    There are stereotypes against both fat people and thin people. I have been ridiculed for being thin my entire life. God forbid I skip a meal... I am obviously aneorexic! It's not just obese people that suffer ridicule for the way they look or eat. I don't think this prejudice is discussed nearly enough. All of these comments are very interesting! I actually see a little bit of hypocrisy. The obese people say to "bring on the cookies and chips before joining the skinny people world." Well, even though I am natrually skinny.... "bring on the treadmill, lean protien and veggies before joining the obese world."

  • Posted By: Getreal00 @ 12/09/2007 12:52:05 AM

    Being fat is a choice. I have severe hypothyroidism and still maintain a healthy weight. If you choose to be overweight, you better be able to handle hearing what other people think of your decisions. Fat people are a burden on the healthcare system, the workforce, and therefore the economy. It is your choice, deal with the repercussions.

    • Posted By: Smokewagon90 @ 12/09/2007 1:32:14 AM

      Posted By: Getreal00 @ 12/09/2007 12:52:05 AM
      Comment: Being fat is a choice.

      Agreed. I am a guy who had finally reached 210 pounds on a 5'10" frame (50 pounds over the "ideal" weight set by health sites everywhere) when I decided I did not want to be fat anymore. I decided not to eat the extra candy bar, eat fried and processed foods to excess, drink beer everynight and sit on my fat ass all day. I decided to get up, start working out and eating right. You know what? It was hard, very hard. Working out is hard and at times painful. There were no easy days because all around me were free samples of everything from donuts to ice cream. Cakes that co-workers brought in and TV ads trying to overtly and subliminally trying to tell you, "Eat more of our product". I looked at all the diet products and saw that most of them were flavor less, reduced sized versions of the real thing. So in order to satisfy any craving, you had to eat two of them ??? which means calorie wise, you might have well just have eaten the real thing. I realized you could eat that ???real thing???, but you had to take the stairs instead the elevator. For every action, there is a reaction. I realized that portion control and regular exercise worked, some thing I knew all along. So I decided to restrict my diet to healthy foods and indulge only when I deserved it. At first I went to bed hungry because I was not used to eating the right way. I decided to drink a glass of water in the middle of the night and not raid the fridge.

      I decided all this and lost the weight ??? and you know what? It was worth it. I???ve lived all over the world, including Europe which has every modern convenience including McDonalds and you know what, they are no where near as fat as Americans. America is fat because it???s easy ??? and we all know it???s easier to eat that extra cookie than run that extra mile. So I am critical of overweight people because I know the vast, vast majority of them choose that lifestyle ???you either run/walk/bike/row/climb your fat ass off or you sit it in front of the TV. Which is easier? You decide.

      • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/13/2007 6:08:35 AM

        Good job on your hard work and weight loss. What if you exercised and ate right and planned on losing 50 lbs and only lost 5 lbs no matter what you did? Would you continue to run and work out, give up all the food you love, or would you eat how you always ate and keep the 5 lbs. What if you had to take a medication that the side effect was to put on 20 lbs in one month! What if people were continually nasty, hateful, critical, and opinionated toward you and treated you as unintelligent and disgusting the years before you finally decided to change the way you ate and exercised? No one knows all that goes on in someone's life which casuses them to be overweight and it's unnecessary to share your story with such disdain toward others.

    • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/13/2007 6:01:32 AM

      Ignorant people are a burden to us all.

  • Posted By: jvalen @ 12/09/2007 1:02:15 AM

    Thank God for Fat people...they are the only people it is still acceptable to discriminate against...well not counting Christians.

    • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/13/2007 5:56:54 AM

      It amazes me how openly ignorant people can be. When you hear someone, either openly or on the sly, being hateful, critical, or nasty about you or someone you truly love (sorry, I'm making a big assumption here) remember, say to yourself "I deserve this. My child, mother, whomever, deserves this. Oh, this is what it's like to be treated so horribly!"

  • Posted By: toadinahole @ 12/09/2007 2:07:39 PM

    Wow, too bad your surgery didn't do anything for your voice -- the one you don't seem to be using to stop the inconsideration of people like your MD date, etc. By remaining silent, you're part of the problem now. Gee, thanks.

    • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/13/2007 5:48:18 AM

      You speak with such ignorance! You really are a toad in a hole.

  • Posted By: justmechekinin @ 12/13/2007 5:35:59 AM

    I think you were brave to write this article. These forums are interesting but it amazes me that people can be so nasty and critical, accusing you of being critical! Americans seem to be a group of haters, don't we? Society as a whole needs to be more respectful and treat each other with dignity...fat, thin, big busted, or no busted, whatever race or religion, level of education, elderly or young child. Megan Northrup did a good job in sharing her own experience and whatever your own personal experience, share it respectfully Americans!

  • Posted By: Lard Butt @ 12/12/2007 5:43:51 PM

    I am what some people would call FAT! But I have always been a very BIG man I have never had any Health problems like some of my other SKINNY friends, as a matter of fact Ive out lived most of them. I come from a Family of very BIG people most of us weight in at at least 350 LBS.I am 6' 3" and my shoulders are a LARGE size 58. I am a Vegitarian and I dont Smoke or drink. So being big is not so bad at all! As a matter of fact Id rather be FAT than be SKINNY and I hope I never fit in with the SKINNY crowd!!

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