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  • Posted By: maxxpup @ 12/08/2007 4:08:03 PM

    The only reason Romney's speech fell flat was the author of this article doesn't like Mitt Romney.
    A better title might have been: " Why Mitt can't do anything right in my eyes". I' doubt I'll be voting for Miitt but even to me Woodards agenda was pretty clear. I will say this article dovetails perfectly with Newsweek's proud history of intellectual dishonesty.

  • Posted By: standinginsomething @ 12/08/2007 3:49:31 PM

    The "white horse prophecy" made by joseph smith some 175 years ago:
    the time would come when the Constitution and Government would hang by a brittle thread and would be ready to fall into other hands but this people the Latter day Saints will step forth and save it.

    Go Mitt Go.

  • Posted By: vincevance @ 12/08/2007 10:22:07 AM

    This whole presidential campaign is supposed to be about where the country is headed and who will lead it. Well the leaders dont give a sht?t about where we are headed, only about who will have the last gallon of oil aftger the sh?t hits the fan. My poor mother would roll over in her grave if she saw whats on TV these days. I dont agree with the radical muslims Jihad but they have a point when they call the US decadent and Infidels. My word look at the shows on TV. I mean when they can show naked fags kissing and hugging but you cant say the pledge of allegiance or the word Chrismas!!!!! We need a drastic change in our policies by a true blue American with Godly views and good morals or you can kiss this ,rapidly going down the sh?tter quick, country goodbye. Yea go ahead and call me whatever you want to. I dont care. What I hate to think about is what our kids will have to see and endure in their lifetime. PS: It wont matter who has the last gallon of oil anyway with the Global warming excellerating like it is.

    • Posted By: Demeter @ 12/08/2007 12:20:12 PM

      The real moral and ethical failings of this nation are sourced in the White House. These are the people with the power of life and death and they made an unholy bargain when they decided that they could get a hold of Middle Eastern oil at the cost of a few hundred American lives while at the same time enrich their corporate friends through out-sourcing government contracts. That two guys kiss on TV is utterly without importance since you can change the channel. Anyone manage to turn off the war yet? We have 3,000 dead Americans, 30,000 plus maimed for life, untold Iraqi dead, borrowed to pay for the war up to our eyeballs and can't leave the place because even worse will follow in the wake. Whoever becomes President after these collosal failures won't be able to count on the economy to pay off the debt because of global competition and the loss of our manufacturing base. We are in considerably deeper "doo-doo" than the corporate owned media are going to say and worrying about lost "morality" is worry about closing the barn door after the horse is out!

  • Posted By: Kodebri @ 12/08/2007 11:27:40 AM

    I do not feel that Mitt Romney's speech fell flat nor do I think he missed any opportunities. I think if any one has failed, it is the person who wrote this article. I have lived in the State of Utah my entire life, and while I am not a Mormon, I have known, and have many friends who are. I have found that while there are several things that I disagree with in the mormon faith, you will not find a faith with such high morals and values. I believe that it is unfair to criticize Mitt for his strong stance with his faith and pressure him to defend it with a speech, when you have a phony candidate like Hillary Clinton who can stand in the front of a black Baptist church, claiming that's where she comes from, or Obama who reportedly was raised as a Muslim, and not ask them to defend their faith. I believe Mitt's speech was a success in that he showed a restless and weary nation that he is a man of stability, and that he could possibly bring some of that stability and high moral values to a nation who is in desperate need of it.

  • Posted By: padmasambhava @ 12/08/2007 10:42:21 AM

    Mitt Romney was a poor governor of massachusetts, I lived there throughout his tenure, in fact he was never there and did nothing for the people of Mass. He would be an even worse president. who cares about religion, the guys a moron!

  • Posted By: vincevance @ 12/08/2007 10:28:04 AM

    When you cant get gas for your beemer, or get to the hair dresser, or shop at the local Kroger,you'll be committing suicide anyway.

  • Posted By: Twister52 @ 12/08/2007 10:05:15 AM

    For "Jdubyabates" and any other similar person ...
    You say "azkid" is a Romney campaign worker. How do you know? Do you have proof? To not know but to claim you know is only showing your lack of intelligence. Will Romney win the nomination? Don't know tho I personally hope he does. Will he win the Presidency? Don't know, but again, I hope he does. I find it irritating tho that if he does you're already foolishly convinced that he will have "bought his Presidency'" with money instead of having convinced the electoral college members that he is the best person for the job by the repeated display of his intelligence, wisdom, moral conviction and character during his campaign as well as during his personal and public life. The "magic underwear thing" (your term, not mine)...OK, here it is. When a worthy Latter-day Saint (Mormon) goes to the Temple for the first time, they do indeed receive, as part of the religious ceremony, "garments" (also sometimes referred to by the religious bigots of the world as "magic underwear"). These garments are intended to remind faithful LDS members of certain promises they make to God while attending the Temple. What promises? Sorry, can't say, but I will tell you that they most certainly do NOT have ANYTHING to do with multiple wives, money, sex, secret plans to take over the world, the "worship" of Joseph Smith or any other secretive, cult-like, deceptive or ungodly type of activity that so many "traditional Christian" preachers often pound into their members about Mormons on Sunday. Yes, faithful LDS members are promised that if they wear the garments faithfully and strive to do the will of God that they will be protected from the evils of the world. Some people think that Mormons wearing these garments consider themselves literally "bulletproof" (will they protect a faithful Mormon against a bullet? Don't know and don't want to find out but I will say that if God willed it to be I believe He could do it.....He parted the Red Sea for Moses by having him hold up a stick, caused the walls of Jericho to fall for Joshua and the Children of Israel by shouting and blowing horns and His Son, the Savior of the world, raised a man from the dead by telling him to come forth, so why can't He stop a bullet if He desires it?) however, the REAL protection Latter-day Saints receive from wearing the garments is spiritual protection. How so? Because as I said earlier the garments themselves are a constant, outer reminder of inner promises of faithfulness to God. It is harder to stray when one is constantly reminded of their duties. Do you wear a cross around your neck? A wedding ring on your finger? Those also are "outer" reminders of inner promises YOU have made. There is so MUCH more to Romney and his religion than "magic underwear" yet for you to focus soley on that is much like one who chooses to do nothing but play in the mud while simultaneously demanding to be deemed by the world as intelligent and matur

  • Posted By: DM_Georgia @ 12/08/2007 7:43:35 AM

    The shows your personal views which are powerful in shaping the ideas of peoples minds. Let's see you analyze the personal faith of the other individuals and how in-line they are to their belief standards. YOU keep alive an issue that shouldn't be an issue. You and those who mastermind the media agenda....get over this subject and move on! If you don't, while it is a drop in the bucket....I will research all the money ties Newsweek (print, media or other industries) and not view or purchase anything from those entities. Plain and simple you are all doing us a disservice by keeping this subject alive!

  • Posted By: DM_Georgia @ 12/08/2007 7:27:33 AM

    Let's get to the point...you, the media keeps this religion issue alive only on Romney by constantly printing and talking about it! Where are the personal and private views of each other candidate. You (media) have great power and are shaping the American peoples ideas by your OWN personal feelings and agendas. People who live and breath the founding fathers principles would be disgraced by today's media.

  • Posted By: CLF0921 @ 12/08/2007 7:25:51 AM

    I think that people need to make an effort to remember that we have a seperation of church and state in this country, and for good reason. I am a christian and believe that religion is important, but it has no place in politics. The leader of our country should be chosen based on their leadership ability, experience, ability to make positive change for our country, and their views and plans for the issues that our country is dealing with right now. OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD NOT BE CHOSEN BASED ON WHAT RELIGION THEY PRACTICE. I do not plan to vote for Romney either, but it has nothing to do with the fact that he is Mormon. I watched the CNN youtube republican debate not long ago and was dismayed to see that one of the questions posed to the candidates was if they believed in the Bible. If you want to ask a candidate about important ethical/value related isssues such as abortion or same-sex marriage that is fine, but it is important that we stick to the specific issues and not to what religion the candidate happens to be. Refusing to vote for a candidate based on his religion is no different than your boss refusing to give you a raise or promotion because you are not the same religion as him/her, and I think everyone would agree that is discrimination. In this country we pride ourselves on the fact that we do not practice religious persecution and discrimination, our founding fathers made sure of that, but that is exactly what we are doing by judging our candidates based on their religion instead of on the issues.

  • Posted By: kitesurfer @ 12/08/2007 4:49:12 AM

    YEs Blogdog education is a great thing...please follow your own advice and gain some education about mormons. Not from ministers for other religions who have a financial stake in people leaving or never joining a mormon church. But if you want to know what a mormon beleives or their church believes then ask them. Or go to their web site. Believing that books that have been written about mormons will tell you what mormons believe is ludicrous.

    My favorite exampel of this is the often touted claim that mormonism is a cult. This demonstrates a thoughtless use of a pwerful word that is meant to scare people. A cult conjures up images of satan worshipers, or individuals who committ mass suicide. Have you ever heard of mormons engaging in anythin of the like.

    Yes Blog Dog. Get educated. But make sure your education is not founded in the finacnial prosperity of those who are doing the teaching.

  • Posted By: thefrogofheck @ 12/08/2007 3:16:24 AM

    It really sounds like you missed the point of the talk. It was about people like you. Hes not a spokesman for his religion. Hes a presidential candidate and its a shame that he has to defend himself so much. One of the main points of the speech was how prejudice some poeple are being about religion and you pepole commmenting prove his point perfectly. Seondly I dont see how in any way his speech portrayed him as a godless individual when he states very clearly that "Jesus Christ is the son of God and the Savior of mankind" and to top of your ridiculous statements you end with a completely invalid point that Britain is %70 muslim. I think this shows the validity of anything you know about religion and consider the conversion to Hindu as "selling out". Ridiculous blogdog.

  • Posted By: Justanotherguy @ 12/08/2007 3:16:24 AM

    BlogDog My friend. I've been a 'mormon' for 27 years. Pretty much everything you've stated here is close to the truth, and so, I give you credit for trying to understand something new to you, however those are gross over-exagerations of the doctrines of the church. Just thought you should know. And Britain is 70% Muslim....really.....I mean really you believe that?
    Also since when does a bookstore define who's Christian and who's not?? I go to a catholic school and their bookstore only sells books with catholic doctrine so all protestant's must not be Christians either right??

  • Posted By: mintosh @ 12/08/2007 2:33:53 AM

    Britain is 70% Muslim, Blogdog123? Really? Hahahahahahahahahaha! How about 2.7%

  • Posted By: Blogdog123456 @ 12/08/2007 2:13:42 AM

    Yeah, Mr. Romney showed his true colors of faith when he was posed with the online You Tuber question, "Do you believe every word in this book?" refering to the Holy Bible..His comments started with "Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh..........
    The fact is, that as a Mormon he does NOT believe every word in the Holy Bible...most Mormons do not. They believe it was incorrectly translated and that is why they have "The Book Of Mormon" in which Mormons hold in higher regard than the Holy Bible. They believe that when THEY die, they will also be gods equal with God. They believe in baptism for the dead and you will only enter heaven if you are a Mormon or the wife of a Mormon....No wonder he stumbled upon that simple question.........His true colors will be revealed soon enough. Mr. Clinton has already destroyed any world respect for our U.S. presidency.
    If we place our country in the hands of a godless individual we will eventually become a completely godless
    nation. If that happens, then may God have mercy on us all. P.S. Great Britian has already sold out.their countys belief system and they are now 70% Muslim as a nation...It's a true fact.

  • Posted By: Blogdog123 @ 12/08/2007 2:11:51 AM

    Yeah, Mr. Romney showed his true colors of faith when he was posed with the online You Tuber question, "Do you believe every word in this book?" refering to the Holy Bible..His comments started with "Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh..........
    The fact is, that as a Mormon he does NOT believe every word in the Holy Bible...most Mormons do not. They believe it was incorrectly translated and that is why they have "The Book Of Mormon" in which Mormons hold in higher regard than the Holy Bible. They believe that when THEY die, they will also be gods equal with God. They believe in baptism for the dead and you will only enter heaven if you are a Mormon or the wife of a Mormon....No wonder he stumbled upon that simple question.........His true colors will be revealed soon enough. Mr. Clinton has already destroyed any world respect for our U.S. presidency.
    If we place our country in the hands of a godless individual we will eventually become a completely godless
    nation. If that happens, then may God have mercy on us all. P.S. Great Britian has already sold out.their countys belief system and they are now 70% Muslim as a nation...It's a true fact.

  • Posted By: Twapwee @ 12/07/2007 11:45:47 PM

    I think it was a very well written and delivered speech. It achieved what it was meant to achieve. Given 18 minutes, it cannot be everything that everyone wants to hear. So - i strongly disagree when you say that "the speech went flat, missed opportunity ..etc." What America needs now is a moral and God-fearing / God-abiding President - as well as someone who can turn America around ( China and India will eat the USA alive - given the rate they are going. Remember- the USA is the world's LARGEST debtor country) Someone who can strengthen the family, and the military - i strongly believe Mitt Romney can do all these better than any of the candidates. God Bless America.

  • Posted By: TrueHawk @ 12/07/2007 11:00:12 PM

    Yep, Romney's opportunistic publicity stunt of a speech (in which he cited the obvious) did little to change the minds of those wondering why he changes his mind so much. Sincerely, TrueHawk

  • Posted By: george54321 @ 12/07/2007 10:09:51 PM

    When Mitt said, "Liberty is a gift of God," he was not paying homage to George Bush.

    Romney was quoting Thomas Jefferson:
    "...these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever.???
    (Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781; The Founders??? Almanac, 156)

  • Posted By: george54321 @ 12/07/2007 10:06:51 PM

    I had to chuckle at the author's assertion that Romney was quoting W. Bush when he said, "liberty is a gift of God."

    Romney was quoting Thomas Jefferson who wrote, "God who gave us life, gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are a gift of God????

    Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, 1781; The Founders??? Almanac, 156)

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