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  • Posted By: Bigpapajoe @ 12/20/2007 12:44:09 PM

    Hopefully the adoption agency responsible for this child has done some kind of analysis of this situation. It is obvious that Mrs. Hilt was struggling with this child and the issues that are prevalent in this kind of adoption. It is important for any couple that is going to adopt from a third world country to understand the issues that will be obvious and furthermeor it is up to the adoption agency to have resources in place for such instances. It is a sad story for all involved and I believe it could have been prevented.

  • Posted By: wlitke @ 12/20/2007 12:19:30 PM

    We have two domestically adopted daughters who went through the fostercare system and while we love our girls, everything in this article is very familiar. I think it should be mentioned these issues are not specific to international adoption.

  • Posted By: gearchick @ 12/20/2007 12:08:20 PM

    Lonewolf Ted,
    You are an inspiration ! I encourage you to act upon your desire to help kids in foster care. Your life experiences and choices set a rare and prime example for kids in the system surrounded by few or none they can look up to. While you cannot change all of their lives, they might listen far better to someone who has been in their shoes and can show them life CAN be good . This "light" in their lives could become a goal for some, who otherwise have no direction.

  • Posted By: gearchick @ 12/20/2007 12:07:56 PM

    Lonewolf Ted,
    You are an inspiration ! I encourage you to act upon your desire to help kids in foster care. Your life experiences and choices set a rare and prime example for kids in the system surrounded by few or none they can look up to. While you cannot change all of their lives, they might listen far better to someone who has been in their shoes and can show them life CAN be good . This "light" in their lives could become a goal for some, who otherwise have no direction.

  • Posted By: wishforaname @ 12/20/2007 11:25:34 AM

    I have been very blessed with my 2 foreign adoptions. I have a 23 year old son from Korea, who is now
    in his 5 year of college and doing wonderful. My 11 year old daughter is also doing very well. I love these
    children. They have been the most positive part of my life. I'm sure there have been problem adoptions, and
    I thank the good Lord above for my children. Any child needs compassion and foremost love. It is sad that
    there are those souless people, and they are not just in foreign countries.

  • Posted By: RMI00 @ 12/20/2007 10:32:11 AM

    We adopted an older child from Russiia in 2003 and we've been blessed that he didn't have all the problems that some children come bundled with...not to say he's not had some problems..he's doing well and in a Junior at a Jesuit High School. However, our double nightmare was with the adoption agency in the USA and the INS. The adoption agency delayed the adoption by 5+ months and that is a long story...
    The INS is in violation of Federal Law that went into effect in 2001. The law is simple - when a child is adopted from a foreign country and the parents are bonafide US Citizens, then upon entering the USA, the child is automatically a US Citizen...however the INS to this day still classifies our son as a "Premanent Resdient Alien".... Funny, the US State Dept. readily gave our son a US Passport, the SS Dept a SSN, and all other Federal and State agencies recognize our son as a US Citizen - ALL BUT THE INS!!!...if you thought you feared the IRS...the INS is much worse and if you want the real source of the imigration problems in the USA to go away...FIRE ALL THE INS EMPLOYEES and let's start over with people that care! Oh and to have our son's status changed takes 15 pages of paperwork and $600.00. The INS is a department of the Federal Government operating outside of the laws of the USA and is the biggest scam to date of the unsuspecting adopting parents.

  • Posted By: Jafo29 @ 12/20/2007 9:15:14 AM

    My wife and I adopted a one-year old girl from Kazakhstan. She's now a heathly, beautiful five-year old and we couldn't imagine our lives without her. But we know we were lucky. Things could have turned out far differently if we had to deal with attachment issues. But going into it, we had our eyes open. We avoided Russia for the very reasons listed in the other comments. We read every resource out there on attachment disorder and what we may potentially face. But again, we were lucky.

    This story is a tragedy, but a prevantable one. Knowing attachment issues are a real possibility, prospesctive parents need to know the risks and, more importantly, they need to know what to do when there are problems. It's a bit like the deinstitutionalization problem we created decades ago. We reintegrated people into society with severe emotional and mental problems with little more than a prescription in their hand, and many failed. The adoption agencies need to vigilantly read the post-placement reports provided by the parents and ensure they are getting the support they need, and the parents need to educate themselves about what they're getting into. Adoption is a long, difficult, and expensive process with no guarentees - but in many cases, the rewards are well-worth the risks.

    One last thing - a mother with an emotional disorder who gets drunk and kills her daughter speaks to more relevant issues than international adoption.

  • Posted By: Nat61 @ 12/20/2007 9:08:28 AM

    This child had Attachment Disorder which is very common with children who never bonded as an infant to a caring care giver. It is devastating for a family that adopts a child with this disorder. This disorder can occur in children who have been adopted from fostercare or even if a child has been in anyway from bonding with a caregiver. It does not only happen in foreign adoptions. Unfortunately it appears that the child did not have appropriate treatment. Even with treatment many times children do not recover and they go on to become very damaged adults who have no conscience. I am not excusing the mother. She should of reached out and gotten help for her family. But then where is the father in all of this? Surely he knew his wife was falling apart. He should of reached out and gotten help for his family as well.

  • Posted By: fostermom @ 12/20/2007 9:00:53 AM

    Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD) is the correct diagnosis. I have been a foster parent for 7 years and have had children with these symptoms. We have had individual training with one of the very few experts in the field Sarah Owen from Colorado Springs. The children were not able to bond with their mother at birth and a portion of their brain does not develop correctly. Please read "Love is Not Enough" by Nancy Thomas who is one of the nations leading experts in this field. If you can get the children young enough there is a good chance with the correct techniques that you can have a loving child again. Here in Colorado there is a place called The Evergreen Center that works exclusively with children with RAD. Most therapists and counselors are not trained in this field ask them if they even know what it is. No I am not a counselor or hold a PhD but experience and research have made most of us foster parents and adoptive parents knowledgable in this field. Please read Nancy's book. THERE IS HOPE!

  • Posted By: twistedsister1027 @ 12/20/2007 8:47:46 AM

    This article is heartbreaking. Let it be known that the majority of foreign adoptions are positive experiences! Research your adoption agency carefully and the type of orphanages they work with. Know what you can and cannot handle in a child. There are many ways to "build" a family; doesn't have to be by blood or genetics. My late husband and I adopted a 3 yo little boy from Karelia (former USSR) who has Kabuki syndrome, after losing our birth daughter at the age of 6 from complications following open heart surgery. He is now almost 16 years old and is the light of my life, even when he's driving me nutz! He is my SON.

  • Posted By: Clearconscience @ 12/20/2007 8:02:27 AM

    Stories like this reinforce my decision to disengage from any child rearing activities.
    Why is it that people who have children always try to make childless couples wonder what they are missing? Is this out of meanness?

  • Posted By: hstruman @ 12/20/2007 7:48:29 AM

    It's called, "Rage Reduction therapy", a gentleman by the name of Foster Cline has been doing, and teaching, it for years (and so have I), it is not new, and it is not a favored technique these days. Why? BECAUSE IT WORKS! it is also used with children with APD (Antisocial Personality Disorder). Most therapists do not use it, because they claim that it has too much chance to get out of control, if not done properly. (Law and Order, the T.V. show, also had an episode on the technique) But it does work quite well with unbonded and personality-disordered children- especially those who have been adopted from other countries. And as far as the untruthfulness goes, do you really expect a foreign agency, which likely does not have the same priorities as you do, to tell you the truth about the child you're adopting? Mostly, they view you as a, "foolish American", with more money than sense!! Especially the Asian countries; they just want to get rid of their, "problems". The problems with foreign adoptions stem directly from the lack of historical knowledge of most of this generation of American parents, and their inability to place things into any sort of historical and/or behaviorial contexts because they do not have any understanding of the countries from which their kids are adopted.

  • Posted By: peganwench @ 12/17/2007 7:03:59 AM

    Not to be the bearer of bad news Abdulmumin....GET A CLUE DUMBASS!!! There are people who can NOT have chilren of thier own! HELLO!!! Thats why a great many adoptions take place!!! There are many chiuldren in this world who need a family and DO appreiciate what they have been given by thier new family and grow to be wonderful adults thanks to that new chance at life! This story is tragic and unfortunate yes, but it is not the norm! My main issue is with the fact so many adopt out of this counrty when we have millions of chilren HERE that need homes with a loving family! WHy do so many go out of the US to adopt? And that has NOTHING to do with race I assure you! ONly hte fact we have so many homeless kids here that need families why go elsewhere?! Help the children here first and when they all have homes, then look overseas!!!

    • Posted By: JaneSV @ 12/17/2007 9:02:16 AM

      I adopted internationally because the barriers to adopt from the US are astounding! My husband and I actually went thru' all the classes, etc. to become foster parents, hopeful to adopt one of these children. We were discouraged repeatedly by those that run the foster care program that this was not a good idea and would be too difficult to accomplish. So we tried but were turned away.

      • Posted By: peganwench @ 12/17/2007 11:12:20 PM

        What state are you in hun? I hate to hear you had this trouble with your foster care system. Perhaps the state had enough honesty, however to know the chilren there where not suited for adoption, at least not just yet anyways! I adopten my son from the Indiana foster care system and frankly wish they had been that honest with us! They lied to us and led us to believe all would be great after the adoption went through and he knew it was forever! Yeah right!!! Now we ar in the position of placing him in a rex cener cuz he tried to blow our home up and kill me because he projects his Bio mom onto me and the abuse he did to him, I take the brunt of his hatred for HER. He may never be able to come home and may end up there til he is 18 and they chuck him out into the world for it to feast upon him and devoure him like a piece of meat! We have nearly 2 years invested in this child and now we are heart broken that he may never be safe to come home.

        On the other hand...the adoption was a breeze!!! The county paid for it all and sent us on our merry way with a child that never should have been up for adpotion at all. We went through training for fostering just to get him after we met him through our youngest son form school and scouts. We learned of his being taken form home to home and wanted to help the charming little boy we knew. Only after we got him in our home and the "honeymoon" phase wore off, did we knwo what we had gotten into with a angry, agressive and volitile child. By then we had fallin in love with him and hoped our love and help would bring him around like they told us it woudl!!! We were nieve and the system took advantage of us in every way to get this child out of the system and out of thier books!!! We are still fighting for hima dn hope to help him as we know we are his only hope now! If we give up on him...he will not have a chance at a normal life ever!!! How do you give up on that even after he did what he did? As a mother, I can't allow myself to give up on the hope he can be helped!!!

        AS others said...you can not judge until you have lived in our shoes with a child like this! The difference is...we got help and asked for everythign we could get from the system and used his still being on Medicaid to our advantage to get him hospitalized and helped! If he had not been a high risk adoption we might not have had that Medicaid for him to pay for treatment and we would never have afforded it on our own! We make way too much money on our own for assistance therefore, we would have had nothing to get him the help he so desperatly needs!!!

        • Posted By: JaneSV @ 12/19/2007 9:30:25 AM

          We are in Indiana too.

  • Posted By: lyosha'sdad @ 12/19/2007 8:07:37 AM

    My wife and I adopted a 15 year old from Russia. He is now 17, on the varsity wrestling team at his high school, a very safe driver , and making A's and B's in his school work. He's warm and loving, kisses and hugs on the family dog (his best bud) and is the light of our lives. It hasn't been perfect but pretty much the same levels of frustration we occasionally experienced with our two biological sons. We didn't go out looking to adopt a child at all and particularly a child from Russia. Many years ago we had considered a third biological child or adopting from Romania. We just didn't follow up on either, life moved on.

    We met our son when he came over on a hosting program from an orphanage in Russia. When the people were interviewing kids to bring over, he was initially overlooked because of his age but a miracle happened when they made the choice to invite this "over the hill" kid (14 years old) to come to the US. We had a month to get to know him and see his behaviors while we spent some fun times with him. He was warm, loving, caring for animals and younger children and easy to get along with. Realistically, I don't understand how adoptive parents can just accept a child referred from an orphanage without getting to know them and assessing the risks. That's why I'm a fan of hosting programs.

    While our adoption was in progress, we also hosted another child later who obviously had emotional problems and just didn't want to be adopted. We knew we couldn't handle him on a long term basis but we parted as friends. I'll never forget the last night he was with us, he wrote into a translator that he loved us and would never forget us - pretty special coming from a 10 year old. However the next day, he was packed, smiling and ready to go home. We still check up on him but he didn't want to be adopted.

    I always have to laugh when people get the dig in about children being available for adoption in the US. That's true I guess but I don't see the critics going out there and adopting US kids from foster care, just telling others what they should do according to their personal view of the world - as many people feel free to do today. I don't see them getting to know these kids or talking about the problems experienced when the parents hit the wall with them.

    Anyway, I'm sorry these adoptive parents have had such a horrible experience with adoption but for every horrible story, there are dozens, maybe hundreds of stories that worked out. Critics say that hosting programs that bring kids over for time in the US with a real family raises the hopes of the kids and then dashes them when they aren't adopted but I've seen it work out for many families and for others. The positive side is when the realization that the kids need more help than the potential parent can give prevents a disaster from happening.

  • Posted By: GrainOfSalt @ 12/17/2007 11:42:42 PM

    A child is not any "better" or more "deserving" than an adult. A sociopath is a sociopath at any age. In many cases, such as when alcoholics, prostitutes or other unadjusted people unfit to be parents fail to use contraceptives or have an abortion, such children were doomed from the start; it would have been better for everyone, including themselves, for them to have never been born. I am more sad about the miserable life little Nina had than her death. Someone who is damaged beyond repair, whether by unfortunate genetics or lack of proper environment at an early age, would probably only grow up into a full-fledged criminal. What was this horrible thing that Peggy Hilt had done? She put a miserable creature out of its misery, possibly preventing it from causing more harm to more people in the future. She did far more devastating damage to herself by killing the child than to anyone else. So many people hold life as sacred, no matter what the cost, but I think that if someone brings nothing but devastation to themselves and all others around them, they are better off dead. The fact that the person in question is a child should make no difference. It's not their "fault" that they are the way they are, but that is no less true for an adult sociopath.

    • Posted By: besposlen @ 12/18/2007 1:50:15 PM

      You are sick! Are you related to Hitler?
      According to your opinion all the mentally ill kids should be put to deth so they don't grow up to become criminals. And maybe all criminals should receive deth penalty, just in case!!!!

      • Posted By: grain_of_salt @ 12/18/2007 10:11:04 PM

        Not all people who are mentally ill (whether children or adults) are violent sociopaths. Furthermore, I did not actually suggest that all violent sociopaths should be put to death, only that when one dies, it might be for the best, even if it is very sad.

    • Posted By: frankenstein42 @ 12/17/2007 11:54:12 PM

      I totally agree with you!

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  • Posted By: nicklisa64 @ 12/12/2007 3:24:07 PM

    I am very offended by your article on adoption. My husband and I are in the process of adopting a little boy from Guatemala. I am on a couple of Yahoo groups about adoption and when you hear the stories of parents that bring there children home it is mostly all positive. Of course there could be problems with children but it also depends how they were raised orphanages or private foster care. Luckily my son is in a foster home and he seems to be doing very well. You also have to take into consideration the ages of these children when they are adopted. I am not saying I am not going to have problems but you can having problems with biological children as well. And, to blame this women because the baby was adopted is an outrage. This article made adoption look like it was a bad thing when it is the total opposite of that. My husband and I have had so much support from not only our family and friends but people we hardly even know saying how wonderful we are to be adopting. My son is going to be one very lucky little boy and I know my husband and I will be very lucky as well to have him in our life. So, therefore you should publish a positive article on adoption as soon as possible.

    • Posted By: katep @ 12/18/2007 7:58:55 PM

      nicklisa64 I hate to burst your bubble, but abuse (sexual, physical, emotional) can and DOES happen in foster care as well. A paid "home" vs an orphanage is no guarantee of anything.

    • Posted By: InterestedReader @ 12/13/2007 10:52:25 AM

      nicklisa64, you sound like my ex-husband and I did when we started our international adoption process.
      We thought everything was going to be wonderful. After all, won't any problem go away if you only love the child enough? Doesn't always work that way. We, too, had the support and admiration of family and friends. We were assured by the agency and the other adoptive parents that it would be a great experience. Our two children were very damaged by their abandonment by their birth mother. A child therapist, who specialized in international adopted children could not help us. Later, a psychiatrist told me my daughter's RAD was untreatable. I was devastated that she would never be able to attach to me.
      Finally, a national magazine has exposed the other side of international adoption and helped parents like me know that we are not alone. All of the adoption stories I have read have been overwhelmingly positive, which only made me feel like a bigger failure. Thank you, Newsweek. I hope you have a good adoption, nicklisa64, but get your heads out of the sand. You will be better equipped to handle any problems that may come along if you have realistic expectations.

  • Posted By: Anonymous54 @ 12/11/2007 6:42:43 AM

    I am amazed at the fact that so many of you feel so inclined to comment on an issue when you clearly have no experience and have done no research. This article brings to light the fact that there are adoptive parents and children who are struggling, and their struggle could end in tragedy. Rather than making jump conclusions about how this problem could be "sovled", i.e. people should adopt from the U.S., people should adopt infants, etc., perhaps you should do a bit of research before shoving your foot in your mouth.

    Regarding the question of adopting from the U.S., many folks opt to adopt from other countries because the red tape for a domestic adoption can be far worse. There are many other reasons for adopting foreign children, i.e. certainty of getting a child, waiting times, etc. Google will provide you with a long list of reasons from a wide spectrum of adoptive parents. Regarding the question of being "so desperate," there are many families who adopt children because they want to be parents. Period. Not all adoptive parents adopt their children because they are biologically incapable of producing children. Regarding the suggestion of adopting kids who are not infants or old enough to have "common sense," what exactly do you propose as the fate for all of those in-between kids? A lifetime commitment to an institution? Years of bouncing around in the foster care system? Be realistic.

    I'm glad that the lack of education in the adoption networks has been brought into the limelight. Perhaps the problem will dissolve, and more children and parents will get the help that they need, as people become more aware of what they might be getting themselves into.

    (My credentials on this subject: My son and daughter were adopted from Ethiopia. I extensively researched options for a domestic adoption, but found that we would encounter far more roadblocks in the process of adotping from the U.S. My kids are amazing.)

    • Posted By: Get More Abortions @ 12/12/2007 11:12:52 AM

      I bet you also claim that you'd do ANYTHING for you child, when in fact, you wouldn't go so far as to get them in the first place.

      • Posted By: katep @ 12/18/2007 7:45:53 PM

        I know what you are saying, but it isn't a fair comparison. With the foster system, which is what everyone keeps referring to as being where there are "so many babies here who need homes" the want-to-be parent has precious little control over anything, the least of which is the care of the child and the most important being... the are unlikely to be granted the right to become that child's parents at all.

  • Posted By: tornado0000 @ 12/10/2007 11:46:34 PM

    This comment is in response to juztliz's question about "why are women so desperate to have children?" I think that is a sad statement from someone who claims to have personally experienced motherhood. I feel bad for you if you do not realize how lucky you are to have a child. It is the dream of many women to have children..and it can be heartbreaking when a women finds out she can not get pregnant. Obviously, some people realize what a blessing having a child is..I guess not you!!! I guess we are lucky that there are others out there who will adopt..

    • Posted By: AlexD @ 12/11/2007 1:09:29 PM

      yea but fromw atching a lifetime movie of a real mother riskiing the life and saftey of her fa,mily just to have an adopted russian baby is ridiculous. When you cannot have a child, just accept the fact that you cannot have kids and move on. God does things for a reason;....and he meant for you not to be pregnant....stop trying to get what you cant have...

      • Posted By: jnr1062 @ 12/11/2007 10:28:53 PM

        For AlexD: Yes, God does do things for a reason. And I believe that he allows some women not to be able to have biological children so that they can provide a home for another child. You don't just become a parent by having a biological child. You become a parent when you love, take care of, and provide for your child...however that child comes to you. There is no doubt in my mind that my daughter (adopted from China) is mine. After trying for ten years to have a biological child, God continued to impress upon my heart to adopt and we were lead to China. From the minute I first saw her, she was mine and I knew that. If you really want to know what God says about adoption, please refer to your Bible. God adopts us into his family, so how is it possible that he would not support adoption?

        • Posted By: averagegirl @ 12/17/2007 10:18:10 AM

          This is the "Other Side of the Adoption Issue". I've read all the comments and to this one I HAVE to respond. Complete the argument please that God does things for a reason. If he ment for you to become an adopted parent... this also means that he ment for the birth parents to have to lose their child and for the adoptable child to have to go through some period of trama (losing your birth parents does not create a happy infant just waiting for you the choosen one to sweep in an take them out of their terrible life and give them a grand American home) Adoption, Foster Care, and orphanages are a stop gap used to cover up the real problem. Yes, infertility sucks, but so does unwanted pregnancy and the inability to care for the children you have. I feel like I can speak from an informed position since I was in the American Foster Care system from age 11 - 18, I have lived in the American Juvenile system when I was removed from my birth parents home multiple times, At the age of 37, I have a healthy marriage and 3 young children of my own, AND my husbands brother and SIL have adopted from Russia. I can assure all of you that God did not intend for my biological mother to be abused by my biological father, he did not intent for my biological father to rape a woman and go to prison just so that my infertile foster mother could provide a home for another woman's child. Please stop using God as an explanation for faulty biology. Some people are short, some are tall, some are black and some are white, and some are fertile and some are not. Being able to raise children is not a God given right.

          • Posted By: katep @ 12/18/2007 7:41:34 PM

            Believing in God's plan does not mean that you believe every bad or tragic thing was done by His will. Human's have Free Will, and as a result we cause innumerable heartache and tragedy for ourselves. God allows it... he doesn't cause it. But I believe God's Hand can be seen in the reaction to tragedy and the goodness of people in the face of Evil. He doesn't set the house on fire - the arsonist does - but He definitely can and does lend strength to those called to fight the fire, clean up the mess and take care of the families affected.

            I have no doubt in my heart that God prepared and led us to the adoption of our second son. Of course it was not His plan for this precious child's birth to be surrounded by such tragedy and loss. However, He forsaw that it would happen and began preparing us to parent His percious child long before he was born. Not just infertility but numerous things that happened over the years led us to this particular adoption, this particular child. God in Heaven weeps for the woman or parents who - for reasons we will never know - gave him up (as do I). It is our job to do the best we can to raise this precious child granted to us for safekeeping and I feel extraordinarly blessed to have been called to do so.

          • Posted By: ashleym @ 12/17/2007 1:38:42 PM

            I'm really curious as to why that argument got to you above all others. I'm really sorry you had a terrible experience; I've known people in the same alley who didn't turn out nearly as well as you. Does your opinion come from the bad experiences in your past? You certainly don't sound like an atheist. Personally, I do believe that the bad things happen for a reason -- while the bad parts of my childhood don't quite live up to yours, they did have a purpose and I would not be who I am or where I am today without them. I think that matters for something.

            (Just to make it a little clear, I have no real experience with adoption -- my boyfriend's mother was adopted decades ago and had an adopted sister, and they both turned out pretty well. They're the only adopted people I've known.)

            • Posted By: averagegirl @ 12/17/2007 5:04:34 PM

              I just don't like the argument given by infertile couples that God ment this to happen to them so that they would adopt a particular child. The argument negates the hurt that the biological parents experience and imply that God loves infertile couples, but is punishing biological mothers for some reason. I know from experience that the only reason my biological mother was not allowed to raise my older sister and I is that she made a very poor choice concerning who she would have sex with her first time. Instead of abortion in the late 60's she married the father, gave birth to my sister a few months later and had me just 14 months after that. She didn't go into her marriage expecting to be abused, she didn't plan to get a divorce or to lose her children. She didn't plan to experience manic depression and I certainly don't think that God caused all this to happen to her so that I could be raised by my adopted parents a lawyer and teacher found out they were infertile after years of waiting for the "right" time to have kids.

              In fact I was all for adoption until my husbands sibling experienced infertility and began invoking God rather than her biology as the reason she couldn't have kids. I'm confident that God didn't have all that much to do with my father choices. I also know that God didn't have anything to do with my older sister coming out of our "identical" (I use this lightly because no child can have an identical experience) biological home, into foster care and choosing to repeat the process with a teenage pregnancy. God is not the answer to man made problems and biological differences between people. I fear that it is the belief that God ment this to happen is one of the main reasons adopted parents have such a difficult time asking for help when their new child is struggling.

              • Posted By: katep @ 12/18/2007 7:32:05 PM

                I see nothing at all contradictory in the belief that it is God's plan for you to adopt a certain child. God did not *intend* for our son to be abandoned and in need of a family. But that doesn't mean He did not forsee that it would happen. The practice of Evil is not a part of God's plan. Allowing human free will - and thus the ability to commit Evil - IS. I feel very strongly that God prepared us for and led us to adoption in order to become THIS child's parents. There are many things that happened to us that led us down this path, the least of which was infertility, and indeed we WERE prepared for bringing our second son into our family and providing for him what his biological parents - for whatever reason - could not. I know that God weeps over his and their loss (as do I) but I also know that it WAS God's plan that we do what we can for His precious child who suffered so much loss so young.

            • Posted By: averagegirl @ 12/17/2007 3:09:10 PM

              Actually, I didn't have a terrible experience, I had an amazing experience. My older sister, who had a very similar experience would answer this question differently. My biological mother and father didn't have a great experience. They lost their children because of being too young to parent children, not enough family support and their Catholic upbringing. If my biological mother had been allowed to abort, she probably would not have married a self absorbed man who cared more for his own desires then that of his family. As for my biological mother, she was an unsuspecting 18 year old who had sex for the first time with the wrong boyfriend - then they got married, had my sister a few months later and me 14 months after that. Please stop attributing all things to God when in reality credit for good and bad situations should be attributed to modern society. "Plant a radish, get a radish, know what your about, but when you are planting children their neither right nor wrong..." also don't give God the responsibility for infertility - it's a biological fact of life.

  • Posted By: astaire10 @ 12/17/2007 1:45:40 PM

    To "THE REAL DEAL"::
    You make a hideous MISTAKE in so obviously putting up boundaries between an ADOPTED child and a BIOLOGICAL child! These are CHILDREN, NO MATTER WHAT their origins, there ARE parents who can sucessfully navigate the waters and BLEND the two into BROTHERS AND SISTERS! What in HELL is the matter with that??"BREAK YOUR OWN KIDS"?? The ONLY people responsible for dong that is THE PARENT! Kids are much smarter than we give them credit for, and you are obviously NOT "open" enough to give a child who needs a family a HOME, and NEITHER qare your friends! A CHILD's well-being is ALWAYS "worth the risk" ! I have an adopted son who is now 17 and wanting to be a zoologist or a policeman..It has been a Great success and also with the other children who DO consider him "BROTHER"..
    Id advise you to LISTEN to children FOR ONCE, and stop putting up such ridiculous barriers among little people, who , regardless of their histories, merely want to be LOVED ! Whether young or old, the world would a far better place if people like you would relax your ARROGANCE and SNOBBERY!

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