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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/11/2007 4:54:56 AM

    Like I said you are taking this 13 bloodline thing way too seriously. I am fimiliar with what you referenced and that is fiction. I am talking about the fraternities that run this country. Your bloodline determines what fraternity you belong too. REsearch Onasis, Kerry, GOre and Bush. You do not have to back past 1600 A.D. I do not know where you got statan from I guess the word bloodline got you a scary Halloween story. There was a documentary on powerful American families or bloodlines or fraternities(Whatever you want to call it. It does not have to be 13 it could be 14 or 15. I guess the number 13 messed up your research. You are completely missing my point. You need to start your reasearch at 1650 A.D. unti now. The 13 bloodlines you are mentioning is the conspiracy theory, I am talking about real bloodlines. Why is

    • Posted By: eubankk @ 12/12/2007 1:11:24 AM

      I think that all of us are talking about what YOU wrote! YOU are the one who brought up the "13 bloodlines" and when we all said it was a load you began to backpedal and change what we are supposed to look into. Your theories just don't hold water no matter how the reasearch is done or who does it. I think that the Queen invited the President (yes, capital P) to the palace since he is the head of state, just as she has invited other heads of state from other countries to the palace in the past. There ARE fraternities in this country and most of them are on college campuses, it is also true that the sons and saughters of wealth have better access to these organizations as a perk of thier wealth . This does NOT mean the are all conspiring to run the world!!
      Again, none of this holds water in any way!! You are not worth any more of my time!!!

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 1:05:26 AM


    Astor Bundy, Collins, DuPont , Freeman, Kennedy Li Onassis Reynolds Rockefeller Rothschild
    Russell Van Duyn families.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/10/2007 10:57:31 PM

    I think you are not reading my comment fully. Once again I think the term 13 bloodlines is throwing you off. Call it want you want 13 fraternities, 13 organizations, ect. There are only a few powerful fraternities that control the political machinery on both sides; how you can deny that I do not know because you offer no proof.

    • Posted By: eubankk @ 12/12/2007 1:02:49 AM

      Nor do YOU eddiewhere! Somehow I do not think that talking to your dentist lends any credence to your half-a**ed theory!

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 1:00:52 AM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft_family-If you go to this website or url, you will notice the development of the Taft family one of the most poweful families in America. Along with a few other families, they were able to establish a number of fraternities which contorl both parties political machinery.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/10/2007 5:00:49 PM

    angelus1967-You were unable to prove your point so I will prove mine in simple terms. If you are born Jewish you will end up being part of the Jewish fraternity , if you are born Mormon then you will be part of the Mormon fraternity. If your father was President and Great Grandfather was President then what fraternity do you think that person would belonng too. Bloodlines determines what fraternity you belong too. This is how families keep their wealth and name. In America there are a few powerful fraternities that control the political machinary on both sides. It is very difficult to become President unless you align yourself with a fraternity.. They do not care who you vote for because they have influence on both sides. My dentist is a Mormon. We had a long discussion and he made two very interesting points. First he said that the Mormon community including himself were extremely proud of Mitt Romney because he is one of them. The second point he made was that when the minority competes against the Majority the Majority always wins. Therefore, it would be impossible for Romney to run as a minority and win. So he changed his stance on Immigration and Abortion to align himself with the Majority. The Majority is run by a few powerful fraternities and there is no way a candidate can win unless he follows their protocol. Huck is not controlled by these fraternities, he says what he thinks and does what he thinks. RIght or Wrong. Romeny basis his decision on guidelines set out by the establishment or fraternal order Do you think all the billionares in America have a fraternity or belong to some type of fraternity. If your ansere is Yes; then you cannot dismiss my facts as negative and say it is impossible to prove. You are just to lazy to do research. You cannot research for five minutes you have to take it on like a project if you really want to understand the way thing work. Without proof your comment mean nothing.

    • Posted By: eubankk @ 12/12/2007 12:57:55 AM

      Ummmm, yeah. You are still a fruitcake and I am an expert at research, it is part of the job i do every day. No, I do not believe that all U.S. billionaires belong to a fraternity or have a fraternity, there is no reason on earth for them to do so. Their money feeds their power so they do not really need to band together in some type of weird frat.
      I am not too lazy to do research, I just do not see a reason to research flaky conspiracy theories. But I suppose the fact that your DENTIST talked to you about all of this lends a LOT of credence to it........right....

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 12/12/2007 12:40:14 AM

    Jesus healed the lepers. He deliberately went out to the tombs to heal the madman. Huckabee wanted to quarantine all AIDS victims. Strangely enough, Fidel Castro once tried to quarantine all AIDS victims too. (Back in the early 90's) Huckabee seems to have more in common with Fidel Castro that he does with Jesus Christ.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 12/12/2007 12:35:17 AM


    Let???s look at the Gospel and see how closely Huckabee measures as a Christian.

    1. Jesus spent most of his ministry healing the sick. He never once asked about HMO???s, insurance or the ability to pay. Huckabee is opposed to universal medical care.
    2. Jesus told the rich man to sell all he and give to the poor. Huckabee???s vision of America is one in which the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. He opposes any programs to reduce or eliminate poverty.
    3. Jesus would definitely rewrite the rules of the WTO and World Bank. Huckabee finds nothing wrong with a global economic system which condemns billions of people to abject poverty.
    4. Jesus told Peter to put down his sword and healed the centurion whose ear Peter just cut off. Huckabee loves guns and weapons. Would guns be allowed in the Kingdom of Heaven?
    5. God gave us a beautiful world to share. Huckabeee and his ilk are doing nothing about globarl warming or the environment, turning a beautiful world into an inferno.
    6. Jesus never condemned homosexuals nor did he speak out against gay marriage. His outreach to the Samaritans whom righteous people loved to hate illustrates what he would say about the homophobia that Huckabee and his ilk so love to preach.
    7. While never condemning homosexuals, Jesus had nothing but the worst words for pharisees, basically the same sort of Bible thumbing preacher that Huckabee represents.
    As Jesus said, ???Be ware of those who come in my name but are not of me.??? That admonition definitely applies to Huckabee.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 12:34:59 AM

    The Taft is Heusen???s name is because Ezra Taft Benson is a descendent of Alphonso Taft, who along with one of the Russell family started the Order of the Skull and Bones (legally it has been known as Russell Trust).

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 12:07:34 AM

    Collins, DuPont , Freeman, Kennedy Li Onassis Reynolds Rockefeller Rothschild
    Russell Van Duyn families.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 12:05:15 AM

    The Mormon president Ezra Taft Benson (considered a prophet by Mormons) was a fan of the John Birch Society.
    The Taft is Heusen???s name is because Ezra Taft Benson is a descendent of Alphonso Taft, who along with one of the Russell family started the Order of the Skull and Bones Society

  • Posted By: joyce123740@charter.net @ 12/11/2007 11:47:54 AM

    The Huckster is a false prophet - he is leading ignorant people down the path of destrictopm of this Nation just as satan wants him to do. NO MAN WALKS AWAY FROM A CHURCH AND DESERTS IT THE WAY HE HAS CAN CALL HIMSELF A BORN-AGAIN BELIEVER - IT JUST IS NOT TRUE!!! We are in the end times, the last days, and Jesus Christ warned us to beware of people like this - The Huckster is a liar, a deceiver, a thief and a misrepresentation of the Church of Jesus Christ of which HE is the HEAD, the born-again believers are the BODY - there is too much smoke about this old boy for there not to be hell's fires in there someplace!!! DO NOT BE SUCKED IN BY THIS CHARLATAN - HE JUST MAY BE PART OF THE ANTI-CHRIST!!! BETTER LISTEN WHILE YOU HAVE TIME...IF HE GETS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WE COULD GET NUKED QUICKLY - HE IS A MENTAL WEAKLING PREYING ON THE SLIGHTOF-MIND. I am a born-again believer since age 6 and THIS MAN IS A PHONY- the Teachings of Jesus Christ are not what the Huckster represents - not at ALL!!!...

    • Posted By: luvindafather @ 12/11/2007 7:29:21 PM

      Enter Your Comment"Nobody can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit." I don't put anybody on a pedestal except Jesus, ths Spirit, and God himself, however, don't you think that in these last days God is raising an army as well? If you go by the Scriptures you will have nothing to worry about. Bashing anybody will never help. That is what religeous fanatics do; not people who really love Christ. You have great fire though.

    • Posted By: luvindafather @ 12/11/2007 7:28:32 PM

      "Nobody can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit." I don't put anybody on a pedestal except Jesus, ths Spirit, and God himself, however, don't you think that in these last days God is raising an army as well? If you go by the Scriptures you will have nothing to worry about. Bashing anybody will never help. That is what religeous fanatics do; not people who really love Christ. You have great fire though.

  • Posted By: luvindafather @ 12/11/2007 7:28:51 PM

    "Nobody can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit." I don't put anybody on a pedestal except Jesus, ths Spirit, and God himself, however, don't you think that in these last days God is raising an army as well? If you go by the Scriptures you will have nothing to worry about. Bashing anybody will never help. That is what religeous fanatics do; not people who really love Christ. You have great fire though.

  • Posted By: uuforyou @ 12/11/2007 9:56:04 AM

    Wake up America! HUCKABEE IS UNELECTABLE ! Romney IS electable! Romney would walk all over a Democrat. Lets vote for a candidate who can win against the Dems! Vote Romney!

    • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 12/11/2007 5:13:14 PM

      Agree that Huckabee is unelectable. After 8 years of George Bush, NO WAY is the country ready for someone who is so similar in so many ways.

  • Posted By: joyce123740@charter.net @ 12/11/2007 11:52:44 AM

    joyce123740@charter.net @ 12/11/2007 11:47:54 AM
    Comment: The Huckster is a false prophet - he is leading ignorant people down the path of destrictopm of this Nation just as satan wants him to do. NO MAN WALKS AWAY FROM A CHURCH AND DESERTS IT THE WAY HE HAS CAN CALL HIMSELF A BORN-AGAIN BELIEVER - IT JUST IS NOT TRUE!!! We are in the end times, the last days, and Jesus Christ warned us to beware of people like this - The Huckster is a liar, a deceiver, a thief and a misrepresentation of the Church of Jesus Christ of which HE is the HEAD, the born-again believers are the BODY - there is too much smoke about this old boy for there not to be hell's fires in there someplace!!! DO NOT BE SUCKED IN BY THIS CHARLATAN - HE JUST MAY BE PART OF THE ANTI-CHRIST!!! BETTER LISTEN WHILE YOU HAVE TIME...IF HE GETS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WE COULD GET NUKED QUICKLY - HE IS A MENTAL WEAKLING PREYING ON THE SLIGHTOF-MIND. I am a born-again believer since age 6 and THIS MAN IS A PHONY- the Teachings of Jesus Christ are not what the Huckster represents - not at ALL!!!...

    • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 12/11/2007 5:08:25 PM

      I don't agree with Huckabee at all, but it seems like your objection is highly personal. Be honest about what that is instead of simply slamming him on the board. Were you a member of Huckabee's congregation when he left? Did he somehow offend you?

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  • Posted By: South Carolina Joe @ 12/09/2007 6:12:01 PM

    HUCKABEE WORRIES ME!
    (So does the I.Q. level of Iowans who have him leading in that state!) He's an incompentant (see FOREIGN POLICY), pompous (see the mom of the murdered child who Hucky let back on the streets for political gain) UNCHRISTIAN (see him trying to play God and say who IS AND ISN'T A Christian! The only good news is that the rest of the country will see him for the charatain he is!

    Dear jubalethan - your comments would be comical if they weren't so false and ignorant. "Mormons" do NOT believe blacks came from lucifer... WHY WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING SO HATEFUL AND MISLEADING? Do homework before you further taint your position and that of the Lord's. "Mormons ARE Christians" who fully rejected the evils of slavery in the 1800's - Where were your Evangelical Pastors then? (Prying loose change from the elderly via televangelism hadn't been invented yet!) So don't be too quick to throw stones - Your history (Baptist etc.) is unGodly and shameful when it comes to the treatment of blacks - and your foolishly believing that Jesus doesn't have the body he SHOWED US IN THE NEW TESTAMENT will be among your painful lessons yet to be learned..

    • Posted By: MoniQueMoniCat @ 12/10/2007 2:45:08 AM

      No, actually it is you that needs to do your research. A simple 60-minute google search out to do it. FACT: The Book of Mormon states that God curses certain individuals with dark skin; the races are determined by how worthy individuals were prior to this mortal life; and blacks were not as faithful in their first estate; that God cursed people with dark skin to keep them from interbreeding with their white brethren; and that God blessed some who repented with white skin. Nothing concerning the revelation in 1978 to give "all worthy males members" the priesthood invalidates or denounces those racist beliefs.

      Here's the sources, the very scriptures straight out of the Book of Mormon, go on, look them up:
      (Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 1:61-7; McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 527-8; Alma 3:6-9; 2 Ne. 5:21-4; and 3 Ne. 2:14-6).

      I don???t think hyperlinks are allowed on this site but you might also look up

      mormoninfo.org

      • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 12/11/2007 5:03:51 PM

        mormoninfo.org is an anti-mormon run site. You wouldn't go to klukluxklan.org to learn the truth about blacks and their plight in American, and you shouldn't go to mormoninfo.org to learn about mormons.

        Go to the source. Mormon.org will explain the basic beliefs of mormonism. That is, if you really want to understand mormonism. If you want to simply regurgitate the same disinformation evangelicals are all taught in Sunday school (a fact that is simply unbelievable to me) then by all means, don't let me confuse you with the truth.

      • Posted By: ljpitcher @ 12/10/2007 2:08:43 PM

        Sorry, MoniQueMoniCat while you have found the correct versus to quote from the Book of Mormon but your interpretation is way off. Why don't you stick to explaining your own beliefs instead of regurgitating your agenda all over this message board.

        As a practicing Mormon I can say that South Carolina Joe's explanation of 19th century early Mormon sentiment is quite correct. Nothing is quite as simple as you would have people believe. Not that is matters for Mitt Romney as you would try to imply. His father marched with Martin Luther King for goodness sakes. What else do you need to say?

        Bigoted comments like this are why there are no good excuses for the public discussion of religious doctrines when judging any candidate???s qualifications for public office.

        Mitt Romney said it best himself, ???. Each religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree.???
        ???There are some who would have a presidential candidate describe and explain his church's distinctive doctrines. To do so would enable the very religious test the founders prohibited in the Constitution. No candidate should become the spokesman for his faith. For if he becomes President he will need the prayers of the people of all faiths.???
        ???Perhaps the most important question to ask a person of faith who seeks a political office, is this: does he share these American values: the equality of human kind, the obligation to serve one another, and a steadfast commitment to liberty????

        Mitt Romney has already said, unequivocally, yes to all the above. If you want to learn more about a candidate who knows how to speak about religion in politics, instead of playing identity politics, please read of better yet watch Mitt Romney???s Speech on ???Faith In America???.

        • Posted By: ljpitcher @ 12/10/2007 7:24:35 PM

          Correction: my previous post should have read Martin Luther King Jr.

  • Posted By: amzimbler @ 12/11/2007 2:57:10 PM

    Comment: Huckabee is a truly frightening individual -- the more information we receive, the more scary he becomes. What many felt was over-the-top, right-wing religious fervor from the Bush Administration would pale in comparsion with what this guy has to offer or, better said inflict, on us.

  • Posted By: jim158 @ 12/11/2007 1:55:58 PM

    Huckabee is a hypocrite! Jesus would not turn his back on HIV or AIDS victims no more than he would victims of Leprosy. It is not a question of civil rights for these victims it is a moral question of compassion for our fellow man, not pandering to the Republican political machine that wraps itself in Christian clothes. Beware the wolf in sheep???s clothing.

  • Posted By: jim158 @ 12/11/2007 1:55:30 PM

    Huckabee is a hypocrite! Jesus would not turn his back on HIV or AIDS victims no more than he would victims of Leprosy. It is not a question of civil rights for these victims it is a moral question of compassion for our fellow man, not pandering to the Republican political machine that wraps itself in Christian clothes. Beware the wolf in sheep???s clothing.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/11/2007 7:12:05 AM

    This is much the - rationalization that many Americans make about our government. They all know of the corruption, but rationalize that it is unpatriotic to talk against the government or ungrateful to complain when they enjoy superficial prosperity."

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