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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/11/2007 5:34:25 AM

    If God sent his only son to earth is not logical to assume that Satan would send the Anti-Christ. This Anti-Christ will be very decieving and everyone will be under his spell. I wonder if this Anti-Christ will be a democrat or a Republican or do you think he will run on an independent ticket. I think this is a little down the road when we have one world government. Eventually we will have one world government and that is when one man will have too much power. Anyway scriptures and religion is a fascinating. Religion is a good thing but it is used in the wrong way. DO NOT BE Scared the anti-christ will not come in our lifetimes.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/11/2007 5:18:27 AM

    I am not saying these bloodlines or fraternities are evil, I am simply stating that they control the political machinery on both sides. What that has to do with Satan I do not know. Like I said family bloodlines are subject to many conspiracy theories. As mentioned you have to do your own research on powerful families in America and how they network. It is not a five minute conspiracy theory research job. You will find that at the turn of the last century I(1900 ) these fraternities consolidated their power. You will see their connections to English and French families. Do you know that George Sorros manages the Queens investments. Do you know that these familiies were all united against communism. Why do you think the Queen invited George Bush to the Palace; THEIR FAMILIES ARE CONNECTED. Bill Gates is was knighted by the Queen of England. Anyone with a lot of money and power have access to these fraternities. John Kennedy's father gained his entry after becoming very wealthy off of bootlegging.I like Jefferson he was a brilliant man. I think Newt is a very intelligent man however I disargree with his ideas. Remeber when referring to the American President always use a capital P. It is the greatest country on earth. Doesn't Nick Ryme with Mitt. Thanks for the Capitalization lesson.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/10/2007 11:08:40 PM

    To rayfinn: You forgot to put a capital P on President. I think you learned that in grade one maybe two. So you want Gingrich to be President need I say more. There is no need to be scared of fraternities; it's just the way the American Social Structure works. WHich fraternity do you come from. If you have no answer then I suggest you do your research . You probably belong to the fraternity most Americans belong too, no fraternity; this is why there are only a few fraternities that control all of the political machinery on both sides. You didn't even know they existed. Stay dumb, vote dumb; GINGRICH FOR PRESIDENT.

    • Posted By: rayfinn @ 12/11/2007 3:36:00 AM

      You are right I did not put a capital P on president like you did. Again your ignorance shine through, but to show you what a sweetheart I am here is the appropriate rule from grammar on this capitalization issue.

      Rule 5. Capitalize the titles of high-ranking government officials when used with or before their names. Do not capitalize the civil title if it is used instead of the name.
      Examples: The president will address Congress.
      All senators are expected to attend.
      The governors, lieutenant governors, and attorneys general called for a special task force.
      Governor Fortinbrass, Lieutenant Governor Poppins, Attorney General Dalloway, and Senators James and Twain will attend.

      Back to my previous claim, if you cannot get "Nick" Romney right, you are either just intolerant and want to put out a ranting for all the world to see or you do not care enough for the facts to respect them.
      I tried to research the 13 bloodlines you were raving about. I came up with interesting information such as this
      This was the Satanic House of David with their blood which they believe is not only from the House of David but also from the lineage of Jesus, who they claim had a wife and children. The 13th Satanic bloodline was instilled with the direct seed of Satan so that they would not only carry Christ???s blood--but also the blood of his "brother" Lucifer.

      taken from http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/introduction.htm

      Now this is news to me that Satan (Lucifer, Old Scratch, etc.) had fathered children and had a bloodline!

      I prefer to belong to a fraternity of reasoned Christians like Jefferson, not a fraternity of the New Whacko Order. Newt for president and if elected he would be President Gingrich.

  • Posted By: rayfinn @ 12/11/2007 3:11:15 AM

    Does Huckabee endorse angelic hitmen? Well he believes in them. What a fruitcake and how appropriate at this holiday time of year!

    But what about angels? As I've noted previously and elsewhere, Huckabee gave a rather intriguing speech at the NRA in September, during which he deftly merged his heartfelt evangelical beliefs with his deep passion for gun rights and hunting. He recalled the time he was in an antelope hunting contest in Wyoming. After several hours of stalking prey on a miserably cold, windy and snowy day, Huckabee had his chance. An antelope was 250 yards away, but right at the edge of his range as a shooter. Then a miracle happened:

    I decided that one way or the other, this hunt is about to be over, because I can't stand any more of this cold. And somehow, by the grace of God, when I squeezed the trigger, my Weatherby .300 Mag, which has got to be the greatest gun, I think, ever made in the form of a rifle -- for my sake in hunting, I've never squeezed the trigger and not gotten something -- did its work, and somehow the angels took that bullet and went right to the antelope, and my hunt was over in a wonderful way.

    Thanks to those angels, that elk was dead.

  • Posted By: averagejoe @ 12/11/2007 1:20:44 AM

    The fact that Huckabee is getting this much press coverage is proof enough that he is one of the "owned" candidates, and that he offers nothing new or different from the rest of the "owned" pack.

  • Posted By: rayfinn @ 12/10/2007 9:16:00 PM

    eddiewhere
    How can anyone give any credibility to your post about 13 bloodlines. First of all there is no "Nick" Romney running for president. If you cannot get a candidate right by name, even a fifth grader can look that up easily enough. Now what you are posting looks like a ranting lunatic rave, all scare and zero substance. I have posted about the parole issue and not the Dumond case. Anyone is entitled to make a mistake. Huckabee gave out more commutations and paroles this year (137) than his three predecessors combined. I prefer to deal in facts that can be substantiated ( http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_08_11_04/huckabee8.html ) rather that trust an undocumented rumor about a mutilated name of a candidate. It has all the appearance of a cheap carnival trick designed to pander to religious bigots. The Huckster cannot hold a candle to my first choice, Newt Gingtich. I hope Newt is someone's VP.

  • Posted By: MoniQueMoniCat @ 12/09/2007 11:59:41 PM

    FACT: The Book of Mormon states that God curses certain individuals with dark skin; the races are determined by how worthy individuals were prior to this mortal life; and blacks were not as faithful in their first estate; that God cursed people with dark skin to keep them from interbreeding with their white brethren; and that God blessed some who repented with white skin. Nothing concerning the revelation in 1978 to give "all worthy males members" the priesthood invalidates or denounces those racist beliefs.

    Here's the sources, the very scriptures straight out of the Book of Mormon, go on, look them up:
    (Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 1:61-7; McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 527-8; Alma 3:6-9; 2 Ne. 5:21-4; and 3 Ne. 2:14-6).

    • Posted By: ljpitcher @ 12/10/2007 2:19:53 PM

      Why don't you stick to explaining your own beliefs instead of regurgitating your agenda all over this message board. Nothing is quite as simple as you would have people believe. Not that is matters for Mitt Romney as you would try to imply. His father marched with Martin Luther King for goodness sakes. What else do you need to say?

      Bigoted comments like this are why there are no good excuses for the public discussion of religious doctrines when judging any candidate's qualifications for public office.

      Mitt Romney said it best himself, "Each religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree."
      "There are some who would have a presidential candidate describe and explain his church's distinctive doctrines. To do so would enable the very religious test the founders prohibited in the Constitution. No candidate should become the spokesman for his faith. For if he becomes President he will need the prayers of the people of all faiths."
      "Perhaps the most important question to ask a person of faith who seeks a political office, is this: does he share these American values: the equality of human kind, the obligation to serve one another, and a steadfast commitment to liberty."

      Mitt Romney has already said, unequivocally, yes to all the above. If you want to learn more about a candidate who knows how to speak about religion in politics, instead of playing identity politics, please read of better yet watch Mitt Romney's Speech on "Faith In America".

      • Posted By: ljpitcher @ 12/10/2007 7:23:03 PM

        Correction: my previous post should have read Martin Luther King Jr.

    • Posted By: AH86 @ 12/10/2007 3:51:40 PM

      Dear Sir, if you actually read the Book of Mormon without bias to truth, then you wouldve understood that 1. the curse was not the dark skin, but rather the loss of the blessings due to disobedience to the laws of God, and idol worship and the dark skin was not a mark of dishonor, but simply a obvious way for the rightoues not to mingle with those who would corrupt the true teachings of the prophets of the time.. And 2. that if you had actually cross referenced to the bible that the Lord did something similar to the offspring of Cain. So if what you're proposing to be true about the Book of Mormon then don't forget Christianity as a whole. Go back and try reading the Book of Mormon and the Bible, and whatever other scripture may be out there and this time aim to learn something that you can use to build others up instead of breaking them down. By the way, I'm no preacher, just a 21 year old man who actually trys to use the word of God to help others and to improve my life instead of using it to desroy the beliefs of others. You should try it sometime.

    • Posted By: ljpitcher @ 12/10/2007 2:33:43 PM

      P.S. Your interpretation of Mormon beliefs on race and skin color lacks the sophistication and honesty due to a topic as sensitive as racism in America. Racism is an ideology that many of our progenitors were unfortunately guilty of. Again, nothing is quite as simple as you would have people believe.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/10/2007 5:01:23 PM

    My dentist is a Mormon. We had a long discussion and he made two very interesting points. First he said that the Mormon community including himself were extremely proud of Mitt Romney because he is one of them. The second point he made was that when the minority competes against the Majority the Majority always wins. Therefore, it would be impossible for Romney to run as a minority and win. So he changed his stance on Immigration and Abortion to align himself with the Majority. The Majority is run by a few powerful fraternities and there is no way a candidate can win unless he follows their protocol. Huck is not controlled by these fraternities, he says what he thinks and does what he thinks. RIght or Wrong. Romeny basis his decision on guidelines set out by the establishment or fraternal order Do you think all the billionares in America have a fraternity or belong to some type of fraternity. If your ansere is Yes; then you cannot dismiss my facts as negative and say it is impossible to prove. You are just to lazy to do research. You cannot research for five minutes you have to take it on like a project if you really want to understand the way thing work. Without proof your comment mean nothing.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/10/2007 4:43:04 PM

    angelus1967-You cannot prove that a few fraternities control both parties, so I will do it for you, this is not a conspiracy theory, it you do you research you will see that bloodlines determine which fraternity you belong too. I you are born Jewish then you will become part of the Jewish Fraternity if you are born Mormon then you will be part of the Mormon fraternity. Is that not logical. Therefore whether you are from the Kennedy, Kerry or Bush

  • Posted By: uuforyou @ 12/10/2007 4:28:30 PM

    Is Huckabee claiming to be God's candidate? That is just plain scary. I am a christian, and I do NOT want Huckabee in office. He does NOT represent me or my faith. Huckabee represents crazy zelots.
    If Huckabee is elected he will divide America, Is that what we want? NO!

  • Posted By: deans1 @ 12/10/2007 12:58:40 PM

    It appears Mike has never held a real job or ran a real business. Somebody tell me what he has done except shill for the tobacco companies, preach on Sunday and be a pol. I have to admit he comes across as sincere and comfortable in his own skin. But, one could describe most hucksters that way. I never met one I didn???t like. But, all they were able to do was talk; never really did anything. Mike is the biggest huckster in the current race. The media knows it they also know any dem will eat his lunch in the general.

    • Posted By: upchuck4u @ 12/10/2007 1:12:35 PM

      Professional Experience:
      President, Cambridge Communications, Arkansas, 1992-1996
      Communications Executive, Cambridge Communications, 1992-1993
      President/Founder, KBSC-UHF 24 Hour Channel, 1987-1992

  • Posted By: deans1 @ 12/10/2007 1:04:08 PM

    It sounds like some of Mikes supporters are running againest the morman chuch instead of Rommney

  • Posted By: DavidE7 @ 12/10/2007 12:30:58 PM

    The phenomenon of Mike Huckabee is that he truly comes "from the people", not" to the people", as others who are more accustomed to power and privilege, and less sensitive to the real needs of the average voter. The obvious or in some cases more subtle attempts of the national media to undermine him only shows that the economic establishment fears that his election would alter the status quo and their place in it.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/10/2007 3:39:52 AM

    Prove that there are not a few fraternities controling both parties. Prove that Romney can compete with Huck fairly and win the Republican Nomination. I will give you a clue when you research fraternities. Onasis. That should be enough to get you started.

    • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 12/10/2007 9:41:04 AM

      It is difficult if not downright impossible to prove a negative eddiewhere. This is the most unbelievable and asinine conspiracy theory I have ever heard!

  • Posted By: upchuck4u @ 12/10/2007 9:32:45 AM

    I don't get some of the criticism against Mike Huckabee.

    He is a right-winged nut and a liberal.

    He is Talaban-like and soft on crime.

    He is too tough on illegal immigration and too soft on illegal immigrants.

    He is influenced by religious people too much and ignores advice by religious people too much.

    He ruined Arkansas by improving roads, schools, and the welfare of the poor.

    He devistated Arkansas' finances by leaving an $800,000,000 surplus.

    He can really connect with people when he speeks, but he is so out of touch.

    He is so blinded by religious intolerance that he allowed a black man to worship at his church over the objections of the elders.

    He is too straight-jacketed by the bible and he is a loose cannon.

    He is too much of a christian and he is not christian at all.

    Huck would make Jeckyl / Hyde envious.

    or on second thought, maybe this porridge is just right.

  • Posted By: windom5 @ 12/10/2007 3:17:09 AM

    Jeremiah 23-25-32
    25 "I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, 'I had a dream! I had a dream!' 26 How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds? 27 They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their fathers forgot my name through Baal worship. 28 Let the prophet who has a dream tell his dream, but let the one who has my word speak it faithfully. For what has straw to do with grain?" declares the LORD. 29 "Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

    30 "Therefore," declares the LORD, "I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me. 31 Yes," declares the LORD, "I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, 'The LORD declares.' 32 Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams," declares the LORD. "They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least," declares the LORD.

  • Posted By: windom5 @ 12/10/2007 3:05:23 AM

    Again in the DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS SECTION 110

    Visions manifested to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Oliver Cowdery in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, April 3, 1836.

    We saw the Lord standing upon the breastwork of the pulpit, before us; and under his feet was a paved work of pure gold, in color like amber.His eyes were as a flame of fire; the hair of his head was white like the pure snow; his countenance shone above the brightness of the sun; and his voice was as the sound of the rushing of great waters, even the voice of Jehovah, saying: I am the afirst and the last; I am he who bliveth, I am he who was slain; I am your cadvocate with the Father.
    Behold, your sins are forgiven you; you are clean before me; therefore, lift up your heads and rejoice.

    "Lift up your heads" not because they are in fear, but because they are clean before him!

    Again why is the reaction of Joseph Smith, who had seen this same "brightness and glory defy
    all description", so different than any other account in Holy Scripture?

  • Posted By: windom5 @ 12/10/2007 2:39:09 AM

    Jeremiah 23:29
    "Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

  • Posted By: windom5 @ 12/10/2007 2:13:54 AM

    In the History of the Morman Church, Vol. 1, Chapter 1: 14-20, Joseph Smith accounts the beginning of his prophetic ministry through the appearance of the Father and the Son. Why wasn't Joseph Smith trembling in fear when he saw the "brightness and glory defy all description" or when he heard God the Father announce "This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!"? I ask because of the following accounts in the Bible. In each account whenever an angel or the glorified Christ appeared to the faithful, or the voice of God the Father was heard, their was an immediate physical reaction of fear shown by those who had seen or heard.

    Joseph Smith - The History of the Mormon Church: Vol. 1, Chapter 1
    I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, tanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other???This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

    Revelation 1
    His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

  • Posted By: rayfinn @ 12/10/2007 2:10:36 AM

    From 1996 through July 2004, Arkansas had more clemencies than all neighboring states combined. One-third of Texas clemencies were for people convicted with planted evidence.

    ___Governors seldom reduce sentences in other states ??? and almost never for murderers serving life without parole or for rapists or for habitual drunk drivers, while in Arkansas it's a regular habit with Huckabee.
    ___ Other governors use their clemency power only rarely, while Huckabee has made it routine. As we've told you before, he has issued more than 700 pardons and commutations during his eight years in office ??? more than 137 this year alone ??? and more than his three predecessors combined.
    ___ Here are the figures for neighboring states since 1996, when Huckabee took office (and keep in mind the population of these states is nearly 20 times ours):
    ___ >> Louisiana ??? 213.
    ___ >> Mississippi ??? 24.
    ___ >> Missouri ??? 79.
    ___ >> Oklahoma ??? 178.
    ___ >> Tennessee ??? 32.
    ___ >> Texas ??? 98 (in-cludes 36 inmates released because they were convicted on drug charges with planted evidence).
    ___ Total: 624 vs. Huckabee's 703.
    ___ Governors in neighboring states almost never grant killers clemency, while Huckabee has commuted the sentences of a dozen murderers.
    Taking into account a 20 to 1 ratio of population. The real tally is 6 states = 624. Huckabee =14060
    I believe in repentance, but do NOT want a President who will overrule a parole board because a preacher says the criminal found Christ and promises not to murder or rape again!! We here in Missouri have already had to deal with one of Mike's murdering parolees who raped and murdered again! Keep the Huckster in Arkansas. They deserve him. I don't want round two of an Arkansas governor in the Whitehouse. You gave us Bill, you gave us Hillary, please no more gifts. Return to sender.

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