A New American Holy War

"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence."
William K. Clifford
From his essay: The Ethics of Belief, published in 1877
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/w_k_clifford/ethics_of_belief.html

"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence. "
-William Kingdon Clifford
From his essay: The Ethics of Belief, published in 1877
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/w_k_clifford/ethics_of_belief.html

This discussion is quite eye opening....I pray that the Holy Spirit enters everyone of your hearts and the true revelation of who Jesus Christ is be revealed to you. May the peace and love of our Heavenly Father fill your life. God Bless You. Let us all remember that we are all born of sin, but it is through the passion that we are saved. Merry Christmas.

The thing that truly frightens me about Mike Huckabee is how reasonable he can pretend to be while believing some truly 19th century things. Whether it's his denial of the science of evolution or of the AIDS virus or his lapses in ethics and criminal justice, we the voters must not simply let him get away with telling a joke and moving on - something he seems to like doing to avoid answering tough questions.

What a load! Our Constitution contains NO reference to God and no reference to religion save a brief acknowledgment of free exercise and government separation from it. I also have to chuckle at a Christian's inclusive love of the heretics. Give these clowns a little political power and we WILL have a theocratic society; complete with auto-da-fe, witch burnings and, of course, good old-fashioned Jew hunts. JOHN 15:6 - If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Get read for it, folks.

HUCKABEE WORRIES ME!
(So does the I.Q. level of Iowans who have him leading in that state!) He's an incompentant (see FOREIGN POLICY), pompous (see the mom of the murdered child who Hucky let back on the streets for political gain) UNCHRISTIAN (see him trying to play God and say who IS AND ISN'T A Christian! The only good news is that the rest of the country will see him for the charatain he is!

Dear jubalethan - your comments would be comical if they weren't so false and ignorant. "Mormons" do NOT believe blacks came from lucifer... WHY WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING SO HATEFUL AND MISLEADING? Do homework before you further taint your position and that of the Lord's. "Mormons ARE Christians" who fully rejected the evils of slavery in the 1800's - Where were your Evangelical Pastors then? (Prying loose change from the elderly via televangelism hadn't been invented yet!) So don't be too quick to throw stones - Your history (Baptist etc.) is unGodly and shameful when it comes to the treatment of blacks - and your foolishly believing that Jesus doesn't have the body he SHOWED US IN THE NEW TESTAMENT will be among your painful lessons yet to be learned..

2007 and we have come to this. The lack of courage at the last republican debate to say that the YouTube question about the bible had no place in American politics; the cherry-picking of American history by Mitt Romney that would have left our founding fathers totally baffled. What we have are a bunch of war-mongering candidates who cherry-pick their own religious beliefs and will force them on the rest of us. Have any of them read James Madison. Do they know why Thomas Jefferson refused to declare a national day of prayer and fasting. I don't care whether Romney is Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Atheist. I do care about his predatory capitalist mindset and his willingness to build more gitmos and his inability to declare waterboarding as torture.

Nick Romney is in trouble. Mormons scare other Christian sects. The reason is that their faith is not inclusive. Mormons are like fundamentalist. They are fundamentalist. A mormon Presidents would be as polarizing as a Jewish President. That would be the best analogy. Bloodlines are very improtant in American society, they determine which Fraternity you belong too. GORE, KENNEDY,BUSH, KERRY all come from powerful fraternities. Bill Clinton is probablly the only President in history that did not come from the "traditional fraternity" he was able to play his way in. There are 13 Bloodlines or fraternities that dominate the United States. Nick Romney would be the first Mormon from this exclusive fraternity(13 Bloodlines) to be President. This is why he gave his speech in Houston under the guidance of the "establishment". Huckabee is baptist preacher, there is no way a Mormon can compete with that. So they have to play dirty. Remember what Bush did to Dukakis(Willie Horton). They have started on Huckabee(Parole issue). However Nick Romney has to play dirty to win now.

I believe Romney and Huckabee have both shown in their past polical positions that their religions do not control how they Govern except to the point that they are both decent and honourable men. Both will make great Presidents, how about both on the same ticket?

This is absolutely disgusting.

There is no reason for religion to be considered a factor in any U.S. government election.

We have a secular government, and a country that was in NO WAY founded on Christianity (or Christian principles, for that matter).

Bringing religion into political discussion is in extremely bad taste.

This is absolutely disgusting.

There is no reason why religion should play any part whatsoever in any U.S. government election.

We have a secular government, and a country that was in NO WAY founded on Christianity.

Bringing religion into political discussions is in extremely poor taste.

People open your eyes
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this need to stop , we need change

WOW, in this day and age a new holy war, this is in a word WOW
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Jon Meacham's article was pretty good. Romney is still being his flippy-floppy self. When Meacham challenged him after the speech, Romney back tracked:

"But???well, the people who don't have a particular faith have a personal conviction. I said all forms of personal conviction. And personal conviction includes a sense of right and wrong and any host of beliefs someone might have. Obviously in this nation our religious liberty includes the ability to believe or not believe."

Now he's defining faith so broadly that it includes everyone on Earth! Who doesn't have "personal conviction?" Yes, that's what unites us! It's not that our personal convictions are wildly at odds, it that we have them! What an insight! Genius!!!

From Torquemada to Hitler to bin Laden to Bush, I see leaders who have a deep conviction in their own sense of right and wrong. I'm so happy to know that Romney is one of them.

Can you tell I'm disgusted? ;)

You are clearly censoring comments about the LDS faith... I've written twice and have seen nothing of them even though there is no reason to except you wanting to control the truth. You too will have to answer to that one day.

We are God's literal children - why shouldn't we believe we can become like him? (Oh yeah, you strictly listen to arrogant pastors who THINK they know everything (thats what they get PAID for). Just like they THINK Jesus is now invisible - even thought the entire New Testament is about how He gained a body, died and was resurrected - WITH A BODY!

This is supposed to be a news magazine. I'm tired of reading Meacham's religious stories. Stick with the news.