Disparate Doctrines: Two Faiths in Conflict

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  • Posted By: mickisdaddy @ 12/14/2007 8:53:17 AM

    1 Cor 8:5-6
    5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
    6 But to us there is but one aGod, the bFather, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one cLord Jesus Christ, by whom are dall things, and we by him

    Matthew 22:29-30 does not say that they are neither "married" nor given in marriage. It says they are neither "marry" nor are given in marriage. Marital status is decided prior to this point.

  • Posted By: mickisdaddy @ 12/14/2007 8:50:27 AM

    Matthew 22:29-30
    For in the aresurrection they neither bmarry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the cangels of God in heaven

    It does not say that they are not married.

    1 Cor 8:5-6
    5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
    6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are dall things, and we by him

  • Posted By: MCHAM231 @ 12/14/2007 7:27:41 AM

    If the Pharisees of the New testament could take it upon thenselves to declare that Jesus is not the Messiah, then any group has the right to continue that legacy and state that members of the CHURCH of Jesus Christ are not christian.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 12:49:46 AM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft_family-If you go to this website or url, you will notice the development of the Taft family one of the most poweful families in America. Along with a few other families, they were able to establish a number of fraternities which contorl both parties political machinery.

    • Posted By: Shankardada2 @ 12/13/2007 1:34:20 PM

      eddiewhere, you remind me of the cab driver in "Conspiracy Theory."

  • Posted By: votenic @ 12/12/2007 4:19:41 PM

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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/12/2007 12:16:29 AM

    The Taft is Heusen???s name is because Ezra Taft Benson is a descendent of Alphonso Taft, who along with one of the Russell family started the Order of the Skull and Bones (legally it has been known as Russell Trust).

  • Posted By: votenic @ 12/11/2007 5:04:06 PM

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  • Posted By: lokes1830 @ 12/08/2007 8:20:58 PM

    evangelicals are some of the most bigoted people I have met. If you look at their doctrine they believe jews, hindus, and people of all other faiths will go to hell. They believe children that are not baptized will go to hell. They beleive mormon will go to hell. Hell everyone is going to hell except their preacher who is gay and had an affair with a man and takes your money to save your sins. Yeah that is the faith I want?

    • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 12/11/2007 4:04:08 PM

      Well, I can speak for Mormons. Mormons believes that a vast majority of people go to heaven, whether they be Mormon, Jew, Evangelical, atheist, etc.

      I am confused by the Evangelical position and would be interested to learn more about it. As I understand it, they believe that anyone who has not been baptized (I guess into their particular denomination...not sure about this???) goes to hell. Yet, once you get baptized (are "saved") then you go to heaven, regardless of how you behave on earth. Above it says this is true because it is based upon having a "relationship" with Christ. Yet, if someone is baptized but doesn't follow the teachings of Christ after baptism, then I would think they really don't have a relationship with Christ which makes me wonder how it is that they are saved. I'd like to know more.

  • Posted By: jojoc10 @ 12/08/2007 8:45:08 PM

    It's sad that this is your perception of religion. There is no doubt that there are a lot of poor role models out there for you. I pray that you will indeed find faith in something more substantive than what you have realized in your surroundings. I can assure you that not all Christians are as you described.

    • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 12/10/2007 3:31:30 PM

      Covers most that I have met. Bigoted, narrow mided people who feel they must pray the rest of us find our way into servitude to an unseen and unknowable being.

      • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 12/11/2007 3:57:22 PM

        I won't pray for you...i'll just wish you luck. Hope your "life sucks and then we die" attitude keeps working for you.

  • Posted By: The Eagle Spirit @ 12/09/2007 10:29:09 AM

    There was ten very important laws passed down to us all in the Bible. If The Human Laws were based on the Ten Commandments and fully executed there would be no crime, no rapes, murders, kidnaping or other things that take place. Taxation would not be needed because people would tithe to the church according to the Commandments and all would be taken care of with proper management. Yes we would have to save for our retirements but our necessitys would be shared with our Church families. We were also warned about all the false profits that are roaming the earth today causing war upon war and crimes to be committed, people are dying like flys from incurable disease.

    • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 12/10/2007 3:38:52 PM

      So if we all followed the ten commandments life on earth would be a Utopia of peace and love. I don't buy it, that is not human nature. Many of our laws are already based on the commandments and that has not gotten us anywhere good. The world is what it is and somethign purported to be god's law is not gonna change that!!

      • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 12/11/2007 3:54:59 PM

        "Many of our laws are already based on the commandments and that has not gotten us anywhere good."

        What the laws are based upon was not his point. His/her point was that if people actually FOLLOWED the laws that were given. If people actually FOLLOWED the laws that we have today, the world would be a different place indeed.

        The world "isn't what it is". The world is what we make it. To the extent that we see others as idiots or less deserving then ourselves, to the extent that indulge ourselves and seek pleasure and/or gain at others expense, well, then the world isn't such a great place. Fortunately, every person get's to make that decisions for his/herself.

  • Posted By: collateral27 @ 12/10/2007 3:57:51 PM

    It would be great to see an article that talks about the similiarities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormonism) to other evangelical Christians. It is discouraging to read artcles that promote "Mormons" as not being Christian. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Church carries the name of Christ and the Mormons I've come to know accept Jesus Christ as their only source of salvation and try to pattern their lives after him. Although their doctorine is somewhat different I daresay they pray to the same God evangelicals do and do so through his son Jesus Christ.

  • Posted By: collateral27 @ 12/10/2007 3:44:31 PM

    It would be great to see an article that talks about the similiarities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormonism) to other evangelical Christians. It is discouraging to read artcles that promote "Mormons" as not being Christian. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Church carries the name of Christ and the Mormons I've come to know accept Jesus Christ as their only source of salvation and try to pattern their lives after him. Although their doctorine is somewhat different I daresay they pray to the same God evangelicals do and do so through his son Jesus Christ.

  • Posted By: sheilab @ 12/09/2007 1:40:48 AM

    So this is what we have become? I find it tragic. I don't care what god someone serves, but what I do care about is any denomination imposing biblical law upon the nation as a replacement to secular laws. I don't believe this is about religion. This is about imposing biblical law and those are two separate issues.

    • Posted By: The Eagle Spirit @ 12/09/2007 10:40:25 AM

      I agree with you on what religion people follow, however being a false profit teaching followers that killing people makes one a martyr, I could never believe in. A true Religion teaches love (not sex) for one another, to help others in need or with less than you have, not kill because you disagree with their lifestyles. To be a man or woman of the cloth one should live life as instructed in the Ten Commandments and leading others in the right direction. Never making laws that contridict what was passed down in the commandments for the sake of non believers. The non-believers can turn the other cheek or simply join those that try their best to live right.

  • Posted By: The Eagle Spirit @ 12/09/2007 10:33:11 AM

    I am a firm believer in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. I also believe in the Ten Commandments. If Human Law was based on these commandments there would be no crime, only love for one another as people not money, material goods owned, or who we killed or stole from. There would be World Peace, and no need for Wars.

  • Posted By: votenic @ 12/08/2007 9:17:33 PM

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