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  • Posted By: skinnyminny2 @ 12/12/2007 5:44:33 PM

    I keep hearing all kinds of excuses and explanations about how healthy stuff is expensive. I've lived rural, and lived in a place where everyone needed to snowmobile--that's right, snowmobile--to get groceries. I've also lived in a rural environment with a large garden full of food we canned, froze or stored for later use. It's not hard to live healthy and cheaply in a rural setting if you're willing to plan and give up junk food. I was able to do this as a vegetarian eating mainly legumes, brown rice and canned or frozen vegatables. If meat is expensive, DON'T BUY IT. Get a big bag of dry beans instead...it has protein and will last a lot longer.

  • Posted By: skinnyminny2 @ 12/12/2007 5:44:05 PM

    I keep hearing all kinds of excuses and explanations about how healthy stuff is expensive. I've lived rural, and lived in a place where everyone needed to snowmobile--that's right, snowmobile--to get groceries. I've also lived in a rural environment with a large garden full of food we canned, froze or stored for later use. It's not hard to live healthy and cheaply in a rural setting if you're willing to plan and give up junk food. I was able to do this as a vegetarian eating mainly legumes, brown rice and canned or frozen vegatables. If meat is expensive, DON'T BUY IT. Get a big bag of dry beans instead...it has protein and will last a lot longer.

  • Posted By: meglanker @ 12/12/2007 5:28:31 PM

    I suppose I see how this can be a problem, but as long as cheap, junky food continues to be cheap, those with little money will continue to buy it. Now, it isn't a societal responsibility or personal responsibility. It's both. As an unemployed college student in a fairly rural area, on Thanksgiving of 2004, my husband and I were searching our apartment for spare change to buy a gallon of milk. We rarely ate out and subsisted on Ramen noodles. My husband is now a successful engineer and I am still working on my degree. But, as it stands, food is very expensive in rural areas. Sometimes, it is cheaper to eat out. I can get a double cheeseburger for a dollar, or I can go to the store and buy a pound of beef for around $3.00. Of course, I can make several cheeseburgers with that pound of beef. But it???s just easier. It???s like the old adage of, ???Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime.??? Sometimes, people don???t know how to fish, figuratively speaking. This is where the government can step in and organize educational programs. The problem of availability still stands. If apples are not available, people will not eat them. If you can get 6 packs of Ramen for a dollar as opposed to one apple, you???ll buy the Ramen. The problem of cost needs to be resolved. Where I live, we have a program for food stamps where people can buy a certain amount of certain foods every month and some foods are not eligible. For example, a family may get 5 gallons of milk a month, but they are not allowed to buy processed foods, like TV dinners, with the assistance. This does come into the government telling people what to eat, but it does encourage families to eat healthier by making the healthy foods affordable.

    • Posted By: meglanker @ 12/12/2007 5:36:14 PM

      What is the deal with question marks instead of the correct punctuation?

  • Posted By: arrazorback @ 12/12/2007 2:48:04 PM

    ottomann I would like to know what rural community you live in where you get paid 12 per hour

    • Posted By: ottomann @ 12/12/2007 2:56:06 PM

      Well there my friend, the community cited in the article itself is said to have a median income of $30K. That would be $14.42 an hour for a 40 hour work week.

      • Posted By: arrazorback @ 12/12/2007 4:20:40 PM

        ps that was the medien income in the county not the community which would include the county seat which would have a higher median income

        • Posted By: ottomann @ 12/12/2007 4:27:01 PM

          Now you're just being a silly...just let it go.

          • Posted By: arrazorback @ 12/12/2007 4:39:28 PM

            i inadvertently attched my reply to a statement you made earlier and this was meant to go with it

            • Posted By: ottomann @ 12/12/2007 4:54:17 PM

              I don't care where you put it. It's still ridiculous...it takes about 4 seconds to look up the median income of Orangeburg county ($29,567) and its county seat "Orangeburg" ($30,306) to see that you're just making stuff up in an effort to save face.

      • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 3:14:43 PM

        NICE, silence them with logic!

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  • Posted By: littleac123 @ 12/12/2007 4:42:01 PM

    If you think rural nutrition is scary, TRY RURAL HEALTHCARE!! These doctors' MD licenses are nothing more than a license to KILL!! If you don't believe it, come on out to the country and write your will first.

  • Posted By: cmullis2000@yahoo.com @ 12/12/2007 4:24:10 PM

    why couldnt jimmy have given billy his liver?

  • Posted By: KYlawgal @ 12/12/2007 8:01:15 AM

    SCgirl obviously didn't read the article in its entirety. The focus of the article is on families in rural areas who DON'T live on farms, who live in poverty, and who do NOT have the resources, ability, or ... whatever... to produce their own healthy foods on their own property. (Probably because they don't OWN any property and have never been taught how to farm or garden.)

    This narrow-minded judgmental attitude that SCgirl shows is part of the problem. I live in rural Kentucky and see these people frequently. They are overweight with significant health problems and haven't the resources or motivation to do better. They see the cost of fresh vegetables versus the cost of veggies in a can and it is a no-brainer. The can is cheaper. They run out of bread and rather than run to the grocery, 8 miles away, they run to the HandyMart a mile down the road where they have white bread instead of wheat... pre-packaged meals instead of fresh choices... filling, high calorie snacks instead of fresh fruit and nuts.

    SC girl should take her holier-than-thou attitude and some of her fresh vegetables and eggs to some of the neighbors a few miles down the road who DON'T have the resources she has... it isn't just the government's responsibility to take care of our brothers and sisters... its everyone's responsibility. Quitcher 'bitchin and do something about the problem.

    • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 10:52:34 AM


      I can assure you my ONLY responsibility to provide for anyone, is the one I have for my children. As for the Cheeto eaters, if they intend to wait for me to feed them I can assure you they wont be fat for very long! Either they stand up for themselves or they die. It has been that way since we lived in caves, and your bleeding heart diatribe shall not help them. In fact you do them a disservice. The sooner they embrace the truth, the sooner they can lift themselves up.

      • Posted By: IDsojourner @ 12/12/2007 12:22:18 PM

        Meet the people I work with. Live as they do on $647. per month because their illnesses prevent them from working at even a minimum wage job. Then get back to me.....

        • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 2:41:46 PM

          We aren't actually paying them that much are we? Well the more for them, the more for me!

          • Posted By: IDsojourner @ 12/12/2007 3:54:28 PM

            Mr. Demuth, after reading your disturbing and sanctimonious comments, I despair that ignorance isn't painful.

            • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 4:10:29 PM

              As I despair that wealth is not easy to attain. Shame really, but the pie is only so big, and my appetite is so great.

  • Posted By: cmullis2000@yahoo.com @ 12/12/2007 3:54:40 PM

    Mr. Demuth and i will help all the freeloaders and bums of this country..............with your money..hee hee

  • Posted By: Clarkitect @ 12/12/2007 11:28:57 AM

    Dear Mr. Demuth,
    You must admit, these people are victims of predator convenience stores that
    are driven by huge profits and are not selling non-toxic good foods. Though if a good
    food grocery store was located near them and they still chose the poisins at the convenience store, then you have to chalk it up to ignorance, which unfortunatley is out there. No problem here with my governmnet helping to alleviate ignorance, for example they could start with our ignorant president.
    I think you sound a bit ignorant in your response.

    • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 11:56:39 AM

      Predatory convenience stores? The concept is absurd on it's face. These stores are driven by market forces, and can only sell what people will buy. You could open any store that suited your whim, and if it did not respond to market forces it would close. As for my ignorance, I will leave it to others to judge, but I can assure you my community has everything I need and desire, because if it did not, it would not be my community. It was not always so, but with effort I have achieved what I desired.

      As for George the lesser I heartily agree, but I can assure you that human beings in America who strive can still achieve. I work with people who have been in concentration camps and have lived under communism, often seeing human horror on a scale unimaginable to Americans, yet still they strive for greatness. Compassion is poison to them, because it offered nothing. America offered reality, and although it may have hurt, it has set these people free and can do the same for anyone.

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/12/2007 12:20:07 PM

        not ignorent, heartless. i watched my ex get terminated by a doctor after working for her for 25 months with undianoised and untreated leukemia, and the day it was dignoised she was fired, and i even got a "Letter of Probable Cause" from the EEOC and it meant jack! so don't tell me the disabled are welcomed back into any workplace, unless they are short one token disabled! Compassion is the core of the US or it was when we WERE great now im not sure what we are, but selfcentered

        • Posted By: CommonSense1 @ 12/12/2007 3:48:48 PM

          Once again - you bring this back to an issue of being disabled when the topic at hand is the choices people make concerning their own health and well-being. You did not chose to become injured - the difficulties you and other vets experience are a separate type of problem than the hundreds of thousands of people who decide to binge on junkfood.

      • Posted By: AntonioGramsci @ 12/12/2007 1:13:54 PM

        Ah, the Smithian "invisible hand"...I was wondering when that would crop up!

        • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 1:33:13 PM

          I has made my life complete!

          • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 12/12/2007 1:56:48 PM

            The "invisible hand" is far too simplistic to work for most but it makes a great excuse to not help your fellow man. Because you are of course helping them by spending you money inthe first place. Right.....

            • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 2:37:05 PM

              I make no excuses at all. I have no obligation to anyone, and I am not willing to let anyone say otherwise. If they can not access vegtables, "Let them eat cake"! But do not expect me to pay for it. If you care, then YOU pay for it.

    • Posted By: cmullis2000@yahoo.com @ 12/12/2007 3:11:51 PM

      we shouldnt have any po folk left you liberals have been saving them for 60 years

  • Posted By: cmullis2000@yahoo.com @ 12/12/2007 3:44:33 PM

    Mr. Demuth is kickin some serious liberal ***

  • Posted By: jqeskimo @ 12/12/2007 10:47:40 AM

    I grew up in a rural area or we like to call it "the country". We lived about 45 minutes from the closest city and about 10 miles from the closest town. We didn't live on junk food and we shop in the closest quick stop. We had a garden and we usually slaughtered a cow for meat. We also drove to the closest grocery store and bought real food. Meat, vegetables, eggs, bread and milk. The woman says that it is stereotypical that everyone in rural areas lives on a farm. Well this article makes it sound like everyone who lives in the country is unhealthy, dirt poor, has no car and is severly over weight. This has nothing to do with living in the country. The title should be "Diets of the poor and or lazy". I am sure that you could do the same study in most cities and find the same results. If she thinks buying vegetables is too expensive, then she should buy some seeds for a few cents each, plant them and have her own vegetables. Planting a little garden is very little effort with a high yield. It's called "taking care of yourself". Give it a try.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/12/2007 11:40:17 AM

      It makes me so happy to know your just an auto accident away from this lifestyle so enjoy your luck while it last i would call you an a-hole but they are usefull your not!!!

      • Posted By: jqeskimo @ 12/12/2007 2:07:29 PM

        I thank God everyday for my health and ability to take care of myself. It sounds like you need to deal with your own bitterness. if you are handicapped I am sory for that. I would never wish that on anyone the way you wished that on me. As for me being useless, you don't even know me. I am not attacking the woman in the article. I am attacking the article itself. It is very misleading and "stereotypical" in itself.

        • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 3:19:48 PM

          Forgive Pink, I am afraid he is Still In Saigon!

  • Posted By: bandannaanna @ 12/12/2007 3:12:36 PM

    I liked the poster who stated this should be called "Diets of the Poor and Lazy."

  • Posted By: bandannaanna @ 12/12/2007 11:32:40 AM

    I grew up in the mountains above the shenandoah valley- We lived 30 minutes from the nearest grocery store. A shopping trip to the local IGA was a weekly event, planned for in advance. We didn't have tons of money but we ate very healthy. My mom never bought junk- Each meal was planned. It was an effort on her part but she did the right thing for her family.
    The article is just telling us these fat rural folk are just uneducated and/or lazy about making proper choices- period.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/12/2007 11:45:34 AM

      uneducated lazy just say disabled if a medical reason is told of as it is here unless you have no heart for the Veterans who die and get wounded are you calling a disabled Veteran lazy uneducated or loyal to *** like you

      • Posted By: cmullis2000@yahoo.com @ 12/12/2007 3:09:31 PM

        okay youre a vet and i owe you a living, i get it

      • Posted By: bandannaanna @ 12/12/2007 11:54:56 AM

        your comment is confusing. i never said veterans are lazy and uneducated. in fact, my husband serves today in kirkuk, iraq. and thank you as well for your service to our country.
        my comment is focused on those who choose to live in the country who make poor choices at grocery store. this is not about veteran benefits.

        • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/12/2007 12:07:11 PM

          i do live in the boonies and have less choices than the lady in the article and a Veteran how makes so much 10 bucks a month in food stamps and it don't but alpo or gaines burgr which could feed me for a month, my choices are nile. To your husband good luck come back in ONE piece or become part of everyone conception of poor and disabled! I do hope he does make it home truly this conversation is right down my throat so please understand the P.O. attitude but just cause you live in a forgotten pit inside this country does not mean any thing but the lack of compassion and mercy which America does not have any longer!

  • Posted By: goodnessgracious @ 12/12/2007 2:59:57 PM

    This article is typical press release hype from a Public Health school in that state. Since the article does not cite any primary sources or list the specifics of the study then one must conclude that it was set up from the beginning to harness more grant dollars for the school and not really show anything useful. Now if they had compared several rural counties in surrounding states to Orangeburg County they may have actually found that it does not represent the typical rural county and is just in need of some public outreach on nutrition and social services available for individuals without transportation, but that wouldn't make a very good headline so why bother with sound scientific research.

  • Posted By: TheOldBuzzard @ 12/12/2007 2:50:50 PM

    As a person (64) living in a rural area I submit that most anyone can have at least a small garden and grow some vegetables without a lot of work. I have for 30 years and am healthy and happy. I see very few comments here from people that recognize that one can grow his or her food cheaply.

  • Posted By: goodnessgracious @ 12/12/2007 2:48:06 PM

    Typical press release hype that covers information from a Public Health school in that state. Since no sources were cited and the study specifics were not listed one must conclude that the experiment was flawed from the start and set up specifically to harness more grant dollars for that school without actually showing anything useful. Now if they had actually compared a variety of rural communities in several surrounding states to Orangeburg County, they may have determined that Orangeburg County does not represent the typical rural population and is just in need of some serious public outreach on nutrition and social services availible for individuals without transportation.

  • Posted By: arrazorback @ 12/12/2007 2:47:08 PM

    Ottomann I would like to know what rural community you live to be paid 12 per hour

  • Posted By: bill_txus @ 12/12/2007 2:30:57 PM

    The article does raise some interseting issues that most people dont think about. Namely that access to fresh vegetables isnt universally as easy as those of us in the city take for granted. It also points out that just because someone is obese doesnt mean that they dont worry about going hungry, and in fact this may be a result of that worry.

    Having said that many other posters correclty point out that people have options. Whether it is finding a ride, creating a garden, doing something with your neighbors etc. In addition I have repeatedly seen shoppers at the grocery buying stacks of TV dinners with their food stamps. While this is admittedly better than buying twinkies, it is far from getting the most nutrition for their dollar. If people are on food stamps one would think they are least have the time to cook. We can make help available to people we cant legislate that people use the help to their best advantage.

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