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  • Posted By: gfsmith @ 12/12/2007 2:22:04 PM

    I live in SC 21 miles from Orangeburg. I find it difficult to believe and can't imaging anyone living 46 miles from a store in SC that sells fruits and vegetables. Are the facts in this article accurate?! Come on!!!

  • Posted By: Theresa_in_IN @ 12/12/2007 8:50:36 AM

    Perhaps broberts01 needs to read the article again and use a dictionary to look up the word "rural." When you live in a rural area it is impossible to "walk" anywhere to do your shopping. As the article states, there is not a lot of choice in these areas. As for Cham101, you may shop in the same supermarkets as the "morbidly obsese" but I think you have completely missed the point of the article. The reality is that you get more processed foods for your dollar than healthier fresh alternatives. When you're at the lower end of the economic scale, you must stretch your dollars as far as you can and for some this means purchasing more processed food that fill you up faster. Why should the nation subsidize and help offer affordable healthy alternatives? Have you watched supersize me and Sicko? The costs associated with poor diets especially because of lack of affordable healthy options is going to put more of a burdern on an already broken health care system.

    • Posted By: juliefox @ 12/12/2007 9:35:32 AM

      I wonder, when was the last time broberts01 walked 10 miles to the grocery store (the nearest grocery store to me is a little over ten miles away), and then back with a week's worth of groceries. Not such an easy task - especially when you consider that a lot of rural Americans are also OLDER Americans - people are way too quick to criticize others before really understanding the problem(s) others face - next time before commenting, try "walking a mile" in their shoes first.

      • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 11:04:34 AM

        Do you feel obligated to walk a mile in the shoes of everyone who has made poor choices? Crack addicts? Prostitutes? Alcoholics? Gamblers? I would assume not, because most of us realize these are examples of people who have made poor choices and are paying the price. Rural or urban poor people are no different. I do not critzize them in any way, and they may live their life as they see fit, I just refuse to have my money taken from me and my children to support them.

        • Posted By: Theresa_in_IN @ 12/12/2007 12:39:53 PM

          The people you are talking about only make up a small percentage of the poor and working poor in America and repeating that propagandist crap shows your ignorance and your abiliy to blindly follow the party-line bs. The rest of the group were unfortunate to be born without a silver spoon in their mouths or experienced a life-changing event (liek an illness, car accident etc) . Believe it or not there are a lot of people out there who were not born with the advantages others have. The American Dream is a myth; you can work your tail off and still make poverty wages. I know a lot of single women and couples who made excellent choices, worked their way through college as adults and still make under 30K a year. It is pretty darn hard to support a family on that. William, it is self-centered people like you that support the current system and then try to cover your selfishness and arrogance by trying to place the blame on the small percentage of "gamblers, prostitutes.." etc What about the people who had the misfortune to have an accident or get cancer and run through their savings to pay their medical bills? Part of being a decent human being is having empathy for your neighbor. Maybe you will have an accident or contract a major life-threatening illness, run through all the money you have for you and your children and then I'll bet you'd change your tune about wanting help. It sickens me to hear from selfish, self-centered people like you

          • Posted By: William.Demuth @ 12/12/2007 2:20:16 PM


            You literally can't comprehend simple truths can you? Feed as many as you like, their will always be more waiting for a handout. If that makes me Satan himself so be it. I grew up in a city where welfare was as common as heroin, and anyone who got addicted to either is either dead or still addicted. So don't try and claim the moral high ground, because your position is shaky at best. I have watched generations of poor stay that way, with unwed mothers and sons in prison. Many humans will take the course of least resistance, and I for one want to make the road to failure one that is culturally unacceptable. I can actually return to the slums I came from and find the children and even the grand children of those I knew running around the same path to failure that their families before them traveled, and you expect me to provide for them? Over my dead body

  • Posted By: Ralph Wiggum @ 12/12/2007 2:19:48 PM

    The article suggests that if every convenience store vanished overnight, all these poor fat people would die of starvation because they couldn't get to a supermarket, which betrays the bogus thought processes of the author.
    The W.H.O. has declared there are more obese people than starving people in the world, which is an interesting turn in human history thanks to advances in food technologies.
    50 years ago, it was financially impossible for anyone below the poverty line to buy the food to balloon to 240lbs. Look at photographs of financially devastated people from the depression...you won't find any porkers in those snapshots! Now that starvation has become a thing of the past, leave it to journalists to pine for the days when we were malnourished from a lack of calories, than malnourished from an excess.
    People are fat because they choose to eat fattening foods that actually cost more than healthy food on a per calorie basis. If there were an actual demand for healthy food by poor folks, you could bet your free-market dollar those convenience stores would happily stock it and adjust to the reduced maximum profits of that market.
    If you truly, sincerely, honestly, lovingly want to eliminate obesity amongst poor people, cut their benefits and they???ll eat cheaper, healthier food. It's Just That Effing Simple!

  • Posted By: Ralph Wiggum @ 12/12/2007 2:18:48 PM

    The article suggests that if every convenience store vanished overnight, all these poor fat people would die of starvation because they couldn't get to a supermarket, which betrays the bogus thought processes of the author.
    The W.H.O. has declared there are more obese people than starving people in the world, which is an interesting turn in human history thanks to advances in food technologies.
    50 years ago, it was financially impossible for anyone below the poverty line to buy the food to balloon to 240lbs. Look at photographs of financially devastated people from the depression...you won't find any porkers in those snapshots! Now that starvation has become a thing of the past, leave it to journalists to pine for the days when we were malnourished from a lack of calories, than malnourished from an excess.
    People are fat because they choose to eat fattening foods that actually cost more than healthy food on a per calorie basis. If there were an actual demand for healthy food by poor folks, you could bet your free-market dollar those convenience stores would happily stock it and adjust to the reduced maximum profits of that new market.
    If you truly, sincerely, honestly, lovingly want to eliminate obesity amongst poor people, cut their benefits and they???ll eat cheaper, healthier food. It's Just That Effing Simple!

  • Posted By: cmullis2000@yahoo.com @ 12/12/2007 2:15:30 PM

    get a job and buy a car

  • Posted By: lizbeth200078 @ 12/12/2007 2:10:05 PM

    am from a rural area in Arkansas, and I found the article to be condescending and insulting. I grew up 30 miles away from the nearest grocery store and 40 miles away from the nearest Wal-Mart supercenter We, like pretty much everybody else I knew, had a routine scheduled trip once a week to the grocery store to buy a weeks supply of groceries. During the spring and summer we planted/harvested a large vegetable garden. When older family members can't or do not need to be driving, somebody more able and with a car drives them to the store. We took turns taking my Grandmother to the store. My overweight (350+), diabetic uncle or my Dad would help start her yearly garden by tilling. Despite her health problems caused by her age and her aneurysm, she would go out and pick what she wanted and would upkeep the garden once started. The article even states that she goes to the grocery store once a week; why can't she get enough food to last the week instead of walking to the convenience store to buy junk food everyday? People who live in urban areas, inner city residents or not, are just as likely to be unhealthy, overweight, diabetic, and have heart problems as rural residents. It is wrong to look down on people because of their geographical location and have the nerve to dress it as compassion.

  • Posted By: dotcaum @ 12/12/2007 2:06:19 PM

    Grocers stock what their customers ask for. If skim milk isn't in demand with limited shelf space you don't carry it. Simple supply and demand. As long as people can use "food stamps" to buy Twinkes abuse will always be obese! Chew on that fat.....

  • Posted By: dotcaum @ 12/12/2007 2:03:24 PM

    Grocers have to stock what people buy. Supply and demand. If people came in asking for skim milk the small biz would have it. Also as long as you can use your "food stamps" to buy Twinkes, abuse will always be obese.... Chew on that fat....

  • Posted By: audbene @ 12/12/2007 2:02:23 PM

    Seeds are very cheap. So are several other very nutritious items in the grocery that have a long shelf life: oats, other whole grains, dried beans, textured vegetable protein, dried milk.

  • Posted By: ihaveavoice2 @ 12/12/2007 9:22:01 AM

    Why not educate these people to grow their own fruits and veggies. The benefits are two fold, not only do they have a variety of healthy food to eat, it is inexpensive and the labor involved is good excercise. We live 5 minutes from a large grocery store, but I choose to have a large garden and we eat fresh veggies during the summer and I "can" or "freeze" the harvest to eat them during the winter. You really do not need a ton of land to do this - many city folk can garden on a 1/2 acre or less. If these people live in true "rural" areas, then raising chickens for eggs may be an option. The cost is offset by the food that they produce and they can sell eggs to neighbors. What did our grandparents and great grandparents do before they had huge box stores for groceries? Most everyone had gardens or small farms. They shared with neighbors and visited the local farmer. We somehow, as a society, have come to be totally dependant upon convenience foods or convenience shopping. Work for what we eat? Never. Even if we live near a grocery store or can afford many of the foods in it, we still choose quick meals of processed foods, because we don't have or want to take the time to cook healthy. Just another symptom of an immediate gratification society.

  • Posted By: McAlpine33 @ 12/12/2007 1:16:51 PM

    kqeskimo obviously DID grow up in the country. Joah Raymond abviously did NOT. I grew up in a rural area where the prevailing wage was lower than $30,000 a year. Local farmers pounded a living out of the ground - working harder than most people of this generation can imagine. Everyone did something to supplement their income: building fence for a neighbor; raising a few head of cattle; dressing out and smoking meat for customers in nearby towns. People got up early, worked hard, and ate a healthy diet.

    If you have a piece of land just the size of 1/4 city lot, you can raise enough corn, beans, and squash to have vegetables all year long (plus some for your neighbors). BUT you have to be willing to spend some time bent over with a hoe or a rake in your hand. What Joah Raymond is describing is a class of welfare recipient that has moved to rural areas where the cost of living is lower and their government subsidies go further.

  • Posted By: divaqs @ 12/12/2007 1:29:06 PM

    I would have to agree that there is definitely a component of someone not taking personal responsibility for their own health. Having a garden is a whole lot less work than repeatedly walking 6 miles and pushing a grocery cart along side the highway. With even a small area of dirt, you can have a nice garden. There is even container gardening that can be done year round in your home for fresh vegetables and herbs. It is true that with more land there are more options, but this doesn't eliminate taking more personal responsibility and less sense of entitlement for ones own health and greatly enhancing things through your own effort.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/12/2007 1:06:40 PM

    i want to see home movies of all you who say we have a choice! Sit in a wheelchair and grow a garden, that would make a great comedy, or make it to a store and back with a months worth of food in a chair, with no sidewalks ie: MUD,ICE. I want to see you do what you claim we can do for ourselves, no help, as you wish on us! I want to see the movie as you try, and maybe when you get it, i want to see the sweat and your understanding face when you throw up your hands and scream this is impossible to do!!! If you got the guts to even try!!!

  • Posted By: jqeskimo @ 12/12/2007 1:06:25 PM

    I grew up in a rural area or we like to call it "the country". We lived about 45 minutes from the closest city and about 10 miles from the closest town. We didn't live on junk food and we shop in the closest quick stop. We had a garden and we usually slaughtered a cow for meat. We also drove to the closest grocery store and bought real food. Meat, vegetables, eggs, bread and milk. The woman says that it is stereotypical that everyone in rural areas lives on a farm. Well this article makes it sound like everyone who lives in the country is unhealthy, dirt poor, has no car and is severly over weight. This has nothing to do with living in the country. The title should be "Diets of the poor and or lazy". I am sure that you could do the same study in most cities and find the same results. If she thinks buying vegetables is too expensive, then she should buy some seeds for a few cents each, plant them and have her own vegetables. Planting a little garden is very little effort with a high yield. It's called "taking care of yourself". Give it a try.

  • Posted By: mountainliving @ 12/12/2007 12:50:36 PM

    I have lived in a rural area most of my life in CA, and now that I'm at the age where I can "afford" to start my own family, I choose to return to rural living. There are hardships and shopping can be more difficult, but if you plan ahead and get sales and use coupons eating healthy doesn't have to be expensive and difficult. Consider that buying a head of lettuce and a few veggies can make several meals and costs about the same as a fast food budget meal, what is the better way to spend that $3 to $5? My opinion, and granted it is just an opinion, is that the "fat" issue is not a rural vs. urban issue, it is a decision of lifestyle. I choose to put a little more thought and concern into how I eat and feed my family and guests. I choose to live a healthy lifestyle and make adjustments accordingly. It can be done. I live on a tight budget, I have to go about 50 miles to the nearest chain grocery store, and I make it work. Genetic health you cannot always overcome, but poor health to a poor lifestyle you can help. Circumstances usually aren't the real cause of blame, we are our own cause to blame.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/12/2007 1:01:56 PM

      If you had no car would you still be country living?? This lady has no car no transportation and ya it 's real easy to slide right over this fact. no transportation in the boonies is not a good place to be, as you well know, and with some i do agree, but the DISABLED HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THERE OWN BODIES OR LIFESTYLE AS TO WHERE THEY MUST LIVE AFFORDABLY. You have a heart, some in here do not, and as such do not understand and are to educated to concieve the circumstances we must abide by,none at all!

  • Posted By: jqeskimo @ 12/12/2007 12:55:32 PM

    I grew up in a rural area or we like to call it "the country". We lived about 45 minutes from the closest city and about 10 miles from the closest town. We didn't live on junk food and we shop in the closest quick stop. We had a garden and we usually slaughtered a cow for meat. We also drove to the closest grocery store and bought real food. Meat, vegetables, eggs, bread and milk. The woman says that it is stereotypical that everyone in rural areas lives on a farm. Well this article makes it sound like everyone who lives in the country is unhealthy, dirt poor, has no car and is severly over weight. This has nothing to do with living in the country. The title should be "Diets of the poor and or lazy". I am sure that you could do the same study in most cities and find the same results. If she thinks buying vegetables is too expensive, then she should buy some seeds for a few cents each, plant them and have her own vegetables. Planting a little garden is very little effort with a high yield. It's called "taking care of yourself". Give it a try.

  • Posted By: Evolutionist @ 12/12/2007 12:53:10 PM

    Out in the country, nothing is open,..it take like 30 minutes just to go somewhere. The stop and go places are the only thing that is available for most people living out there. People will say, "Then go to the store before they close" well its easy for people to say that but the fact is people are people like you and I. We forget and get lazy sometimes.

  • Posted By: jqeskimo @ 12/12/2007 12:47:35 PM

    I grew up in a rural area or we like to call it "the country". We lived about 45 minutes from the closest city and about 10 miles from the closest town. We didn't live on junk food and we shop in the closest quick stop. We had a garden and we usually slaughtered a cow for meat. We also drove to the closest grocery store and bought real food. Meat, vegetables, eggs, bread and milk. The woman says that it is stereotypical that everyone in rural areas lives on a farm. Well this article makes it sound like everyone who lives in the country is unhealthy, dirt poor, has no car and is severly over weight. This has nothing to do with living in the country. The title should be "Diets of the poor and or lazy". I am sure that you could do the same study in most cities and find the same results. If she thinks buying vegetables is too expensive, then she should buy some seeds for a few cents each, plant them and have her own vegetables. Planting a little garden is very little effort with a high yield. It's called "taking care of yourself". Give it a try.

  • Posted By: jgirldc @ 12/12/2007 9:49:34 AM

    So basically this article is telling us that rural people who are overweight do not have the intelligence to figure out ways to be healthy. It is their choice to eat the unhealthy foods in such quantities that make them overweight. A person could live off of convenience store food with an occasional trip to the grocery store and still be a healthy weight IF THEY CHOSE TO DO SO. The person would have to choose to eat only a handful of chips with their hotdog rather than the whole bag of chips and 3 hotdogs. Or better yet, skip the chips and buy a can of corn or baked beans and eat that as a side dish. And for those making the argument that there are no fresh fruit and vegetable choices, well the canned versions are still pretty healthy and very cheap. This article represents the mentality that people who are poor and overweight are just helpless victims who should be pitied and taken care of with tax dollars. Give me a break.

    • Posted By: Theresa_in_IN @ 12/12/2007 12:45:43 PM

      I'm not sure what article you read but nowhere in the article I read did it say that rural people don;t have the "intelligence" to figure out ways to be healthy. The problem is access to resources. Why shouldn't the government try to make the playing field level and help those who do not have access to resources? I never considered a hot dog healthy food either. I would challenge anyone to come up with a healthy diet from a convenience store.

  • Posted By: jqeskimo @ 12/12/2007 12:33:28 PM

    I grew up in a rural area or we like to call it "the country". We lived about 45 minutes from the closest city and about 10 miles from the closest town. We didn't live on junk food and we shop in the closest quick stop. We had a garden and we usually slaughtered a cow for meat. We also drove to the closest grocery store and bought real food. Meat, vegetables, eggs, bread and milk. The woman says that it is stereotypical that everyone in rural areas lives on a farm. Well this article makes it sound like everyone who lives in the country is unhealthy, dirt poor, has no car and is severly over weight. This has nothing to do with living in the country. The title should be "Diets of the poor and or lazy". I am sure that you could do the same study in most cities and find the same results. If she thinks buying vegetables is too expensive, then she should buy some seeds for a few cents each, plant them and have her own vegetables. Planting a little garden is very little effort with a high yield. It's called "taking care of yourself". Give it a try.

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