I'm sorry But that is so wrong because these puppy got a chance at life and now these people are going to ruin it by not treating and caring for them in the right way They didn't do anything to deserve some thing like that to happen to them
I'm sorry But that is so wrong because these puppy got a chance at life and now these people are going to ruin it by not treating and caring for them in the right way They didn't do anything to deserve some thing like that to happen to them
It is immensely cruel for people to treat puppies that way. Each puppy has feelings and a life of its' own and I don't think they deserve to be treated like some stuffed animal or a rolled up carpet. I have multiple animals myself and if any ONE of them ever got into trouble like this, I would press charges, even if most of the animals were not mine. I do not think that the people who run businesses like this realize that they are ruining many lives by doing this, and harming so many that it may come as second nature to them. It's horrible to see creatures treated this way.... When I watch Animal Cops on Animal Planet I am appalled at the situations they find animals in. I am sure that if they ever went to one of these puppy mills they would be just as appalled. I love creatures such as these, and if I saw something like this I could not stand it. I would have to take action right away against the puppy mills owners. I would be.. ROYALL TICKED OFF!!
actually, we don't have animal abuse laws at all. i saw a man stab a puppy to death one time, he got 2 months and a fine, animal abuse is considered a moistener, the most ppl get 4 animal abuse is 2 years, and this mostly b/c of other charges.....hopefully one day we will get stronger animal rights, then maybe places like, testing labs, fur farms, factory farms and things like circuses and bull fighting can be stopped.....i hope one day animals will get the justice they deserve....
There is a pet store here in Las Vegas that I go into occasionally to look at the puppies. Everytime I go in I am disgusted by what I see. I worked for animal control for a while and you can look at animals and know that something is wrong with them. Most the puppies there having really running eyes and noses and are coughing all over the place. It's obvious they have upper respitory infections and the people working there just turn a blind eye to it. It breaks my heart to see them in that condition and know that those people see it and just dont care. As for the animal shelter out here it's ridiculous what you have to pay and go through to get a pet. Most of the dogs cost over 400 dollars. That is outrageous when you can buy a pure bred registered dog for a little more depending on breed. And I completely agree with Cheyennes comments they are very accurate and truthfull.
It scares me that you think getting a dog from a shelter is the solution. Many of these dogs are owner surrender animals with severe health and behavioral issues. The increased restrictions against breeding family pets, along with dollar penalties on non-altered animals has driven the demand for purebred puppies into an underground type situaiton. Puppy mills are BAD, but government regulations are worse.
On the contrary, most of the dogs in shelters will make fine, loyal companion animals if given a chance. Sometimes owners have to move and can't take the pet along. Sometimes owners die. And sometimes these poor dogs are just victims of our throw away society whose owners have grown tired of them. People think that when they take their pet to a shelter that the shelter will find the dog a good home. If they only knew that most likely their special friend will end up being euthanized because people think just like you do that there is something wrong with the dog. More than likely the problem was the owner not the dog.
I've read a lot of the posts here. I think the only way to get a pet is from a shelter or rescue group. If we stop buying them from pet stores and any type of breeder we can shut this system down. It's up to us as consumers. If we don't buy, then there is no demand and they will shut down.
There are not enough dogs in shelters or rescue groups to meet the demand for puppies. We need breeders. What we need are reputable, responsible breeders who screen homes, take back the pups they breed for their whole lives, health test, and breed a limited number of litters.
About 3-4 million dogs enter shelters each year. A scootch more than half of those are either reclaimed, transferred to rescue, or adopted. About 7 million or so new homes are available for dogs each year. There are about twice as many home available as there are dogs in shelters.
Hurting reputable breeders does not help dogs. Owners will still want dogs - and if they can't get one from a good breeder, they'll go to a shady one.
We need to encourage people to look to shelters and rescue first, and to insist on a reputable breeder if they buy a pup.
You need to recheck your figures, Sally Girl. There are at any given time about 10 million companion animals without homes in the U.S. About 4 million of those will be euthanized annually, their only crime being unwanted victims in a throwaway society. To say that there aren't enough dogs in shelters and rescues for every one who wants a dog is a stupid and uneducated comment.
There are not enough dogs in shelters or rescue groups to meet the demand for puppies. We need breeders. What we need are reputable, responsible breeders who screen homes, take back the pups they breed for their whole lives, health test, and breed a limited number of litters.
About 3-4 million dogs enter shelters each year. A scootch more than half of those are either reclaimed, transferred to rescue, or adopted. About 7 million or so new homes are available for dogs each year. There are about twice as many home available as there are dogs in shelters.
Hurting reputable breeders does not help dogs. Owners will still want dogs - and if they can't get one from a good breeder, they'll go to a shady one.
We need to encourage people to look to shelters and rescue first, and to insist on a reputable breeder if they buy a pup.
One other comment - a certain percentage of the dogs in shelters are not adoptable, but adoption rates, with the right programs, can go as high as 92%. A great approach is documented in the book "Redemption", by Nathan Winograd, about how shelters can out-compete puppy mills.
When shelter dogs are effectively promoted, pet stores find that they can't compete.
I was a kennel operator in the mid west for many years. Quite frankly no one wants to hear about the
responsible breeders. When a network tv crew was coming in to film at a bad place there were 3 kennel owners, myself included who invited them to film our facility to show both sides. They declined. It did not create sensational headlines to visit a clean humane operation. yes, there are careless, inumane breeders but there are also people who take pride in the operation. Think about it. These dogs are your livelihood. Like any oher animal operation the better care you take the more valuable the off spring and the more money you make.
And what, if anything, are you doing to put pressure on the puppy mill kennels to clean up their act and start treating dogs as the loving companion animals they are meant to be instead of a money making commodity?
I am active in rescue. The only way to keep sane and be able to continue to rescue dogs is to realize that we can't save them all. If everyone looking for a dog would rescue just one. If you believe that rescuing one dog won't change the world, you are right, but you can change the world for that one dog. Saving dogs one life at a time is what rescue is all about. Please consider giving a home to a homeless, unwanted dog.
I had a bad experience going through a web site for a puppy. Even though she bred championship dogs, this puppy was sickly. The puppy was older (four months). It was obvious she had never been on grass (probably kept in a cage all her life). My vet told me to take her back and get a refund. She was avoiding me (easy to do since she was in another city). I started calling other show breeders and asking them questions about her. I talked to the breed's club. I made a stink. The women finally agreed to refund most of my money. I reported her to organizations and to the humane society.
I had a bad experience by going through a web site and being fooled by a breeder of championship dogs. The dog I received was slightly older, maybe four months old. She had health problems. My vet said to report her and then get my money back. It was obvious this puppy had never been on grass or socialized. I called the breed club. I spoke with other show breeders and questioned them about her. They were careful not to say much, but the stink I caused, made the woman refund most of my money. Sadly, I gave the dog back and then reported her. It was a horrible experience.
Shot down the puppy mills!!! Put the owners in jail!! We have laws against animal cruelty!!
When is all the suffering and abuse for greed going to stop???
Shot down the puppy mills!!! Put the owners in jail!! We have laws against animal cruelty!!
When is all the suffering and abuse for greed going to stop???
My family adopted a rescued dog two years ago and since then have been trying to help in any small way with unfortunate dogs. I would like to find out what kind of laws there are and if we can have new laws that would make it illegal for puppy mills to exist. For my Christmas presents, I will ask for donations to the Human e Society. This article was very compelling and is a good reminder to animal lovers that we need to do whatever we can to help our poor animal friends.
Catherine
Give me a break!!! Shelters, Humane Societies, Rescue groups, are all just as bad if not worse that puppy mills. These groups, like breeders, charge from $100 to $300 for an animal (YES THEY ARE ANIMALS BTW) and then try to dictate terms and demean many good people. All the while they treat ANIMALS like humans, instead of being an ALPHA male and keeping the animal at the low end of the pack. GET REAL! Any well trained animal is not treated as human but as an animal. You want to spay or nueter? Thats fine, but in the wild these animals breed every time they come into heat. That IS the way nature intended. All of you "well-intentioned, Holier-Than-Thou" idiots out there are the ones creating all of the uncontrollable animals needing to be put down, because you refuse to be the Master of the animal. I'm amazed at all these negative comments about the puppy mill operators. I would think you would be calling for the banning of all pets so these mills can't operate, after all you claim people can't kill if they would only ban guns. This article is EXTREMELY biased. I have no doubt that if one pile of *** were found for 100 dogs the facility would have been considered filthy. The BEST dogs come from breeders, PERIOD.
You're just a moron. My dogs are all rescues. And pit bulls. And the best dogs you'll ever meet. Even better than yours, I promise you. They are treated as my family, as I am their only family. I am their alpha. But I am also a human who understands that they do understand and crave compassion. They aren't wolves anymore. Domestication has given them a desire for what we give.
This article is not biased, it's true. Puppy mills are horrid places and people who run them deserve time in the dogs' place. My shelter charges $75.
You have the mental process of a small child.
I truly hope you are the alpha male. Pits were bred to fight, that is the only purpose they had, it is instinct for them just like eating and drinking. Dogs and humans are both wild animals that have been trained over the eons (domesticated) . When it comes to mental capacity we excel above all other creatures because of speech, reasoning and imagination. I'm sure you have an incredible imagination, you speak well enough, but your reasoning is pretty low on the evolution scale. This is an article??? Read the sub-headline ...this is the author's VIEW (an opinion) on puppy mills, not based on fact....merely belief. Question if "domestication" did away with animal instinct, why do they need an alpha??????????? Wecome to the moran club.
You should be treated like the woman dogfighter on CSI this past week. Pitbulls are gentle in nature - it's morons like yourself that turn them into monsters.
I would just like to piont out that Pit bull is a term commonly used to describe several types of dogs with similar physical characteristics. There are eight physically similar breeds that are often termed "pit bull", including the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, the Bull Terrier, the Perro de Presa Canario, Cane Corso, and Argentine Dogos and Tomberto. So when you talk about "pit bulls" you should actually name the true breed of dog.
ohh and I own a Staffordshire Terrier, he is the best dog I have ever had. I am going to adopt an Argentine Dogos in about a month , she is at the Kennel I work at, her and my dog get along just fine even if they are "Pit bulls."
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You, sir, are an idiot. I can well believe you beat your dog (probably your child also). You shouldn't own any pets whatsoever because you don't have the capacity to care. We don't do "as nature intended" anymore when it's not good for us. Society does have the right rather, the OBLIGATION, to make sure people like you are not abusing animals. This is what makes us "humane." There are plenty of people I wish were neutered also. The article is a fact-based account of puppy mills. If you think puppy mills are okay because they're just dogs, you are the moron. And before you go around calling anyone else a moron, you should learn to spell it.
It's becoming a sad world when humans don't or can't appreciate all of its creatures. I treat my pets as members of the family because that's what people should do when they choose to bring an animal into it. Unless you're "hiring" an animal as a security guard, why would a person acquire a dog simply to throw in the backyard or a cage? Even if you did just "hire" a dog for a job, why wouldn't a person, with any ounce of a brain, want to care for it? It's doing you a service for what? Food, shelter, a little interaction...the bare minimum. Puppy mills are for profit. It's the "creation" of additional animals on this earth without the minimum care required. Sure, in the wild, dogs may mate upon every cycle, but they also have free range and can leave areas that are inhospitable or do not provide the necessary provisions. Dogs in puppy mills don't have that luxury. It all comes down to compassion. Why wouldn't people, as the "alpha dogs" of the world, not want to do its part in ending cruel acts against ANY other living creature. It seems that in this world full of cruelty done by nature and humans, ending puppy mills are a small and achievable goal. What???s the problem with that?
I've done exactly that for the past several years. All of my nieces now donate time and/or money to area shelters, rather than buying me gifts. It has taught them AND their parents invaluable lessons. Good for you. What a great and smart thing for you to do. You're providing much needed funds to a very charitable cause,AND providing an education to your friends and family members.
We took down a puppy mill in Obion County Tennessee back in July, 07. It was your average, disgusting, mill with sick dogs and urine scalded bellies on puppies. One mother dogs body was trying to expel her uterus because of being bred so many times, (her puppies were about 6 weeks of age, ) Magets in the kennels with newborn pups and mother, *** splattered on the walls of the puppy house, etc....I don't need to go on, you've seen them. Now try and get the Judicial System, Attorney General Tommy Thomas to enforce the law on Animal Cruelty in that county. Nope, won't happen. He's friends with the puppy millers "Vet", and the general allowed the dogs/puppies to go back to the mill saying Dr. Page said they were all healthy and living in a clean environment. BS!! The General didn't even show not one picture of the dogs to the Judge. The Judge thought there were only 10 dogs involved, and then I informed him there were actually 1117 more that warrants weren't even signed on by the Sheriff of that County, Jerry Vastbinder. It's the "good ole boy" system there and these puppies and dogs are still suffering from it. I pray everyday that someone larger than us, like the Media, the HSUS , Nancy Grace, someone would get involved and help us force the General to enforce the laws of this state like he was elected to do. He has no boss except the people who voted for him and they don't even know what he's NOT doing. It's such a sad situation for those neglected and abused animals to have to live in because of a uncompassionate jerk like Tommy Thomas!
Deborah, I think that it is just as likely that the animals were living in a clean environment and that someone was lying about the conditions that they found them in. You know, you don't look good when you verbally abuse the AG for not giving you what you wanted. I think that I will believe the vet and the AG before I believe you.
Deborah's sounds like an eyewitness account to me, so what you mean is, she's lying? And of course we all know that sheriffs, attorney generals, and veterinarians are always trustworthy and would never form a kind of "good ole boy" conspiracy to get another "good ole boy" off the hook, so that would be paranoia?
You know, you don't look good when you abuse logic and common sense.
Somebody please post sources for petitions that will implement jail-time for cruelty. Like children, they cannot speak for themselves, and must be represented. They are at the mercy of our intelligence. Let's use it. I have children and pets. My children love our pets also, as they understand their ability to love back.. unconditionally. By the way- M. Vick deserves his sentence. If you have nothing else to do w/spare time but watch animals kill themselves.. (as in ***-fighting, etc.) You have a mental disorder that needs serious evaluation.
Thank you for your concern for animals. You can go to www.peta.org, www.hsus.org, or www.idausa.org (among others). All of these sites have many advocacy links and petitions to send in order ot get active protecting all animals. You may not agree with everything PETA and the Humane Society says, but most of what they do is in defense of animals and for a good cause.
Joe, whatever we can do in defense of animals we can do without animal rights activists. They don't care about the animals, they care about dollars, control, and the opportunity to make endless money fighting black markets that they created themselves.
This kind of BS is what gives lying hypocrites a bad name. PETA "CREATED" puppy mills? Just how close to out of your mind are you?
Hard as it may be to imagine, there are people who do humanitarian things because they care about fundamental Christian values like goodness and mercy. You may not be the sort who would save a child's life for free, but don't assume the rest of the world is dipped in your particular flavor of sheep.
Oh, Please! This article defies logic and common sense. Is the writer so naive as to believe a pet store owner or the general public can not recognize an obvious sick or underweight animal? The profit motive alone assures that the overwhelming majority of animals are raised healthy. It's too bad that Jamie and his ilk can not bring their anthroponorphism to a level where they can see their own horrors inflicted on animals, in the form of mandatory spaying and neutering of adopted animals. Perhaps ,Jamie and the PETA types can be spayed or neutered to prevent indiscriminate and unwanted breeding.. I wonder if Bob Barker could sing soprano?
How would you recognize logic and common sense, aside from having them bite you? I've seen the miserable dogs in pet shops, and nightmare of industrial dog breeding, and as a vet assistant I've seen the abuses visited on manufactured dogs by the sociopaths who breed them. Are you in denial, or just a lying sack of sheep?
I also agree with shoegal50 and bunnynell- breeding dogs and cats are a waste when we have wonderful animals up for adoption at our local shelters. In October alone our shelter euthanised over 700 animals- that just breaks my heart to read. Please adopt from a shelter, report animal abuse and if you see a dog on the road please attempt to pick it up-just imagine it being your pet and perhaps it got lost-just drop it off at your local shelter or a vets office!
SouthernNola -
Not every shelter is responsible. The public shelters run by a local county allowed me to adopt a juvenille dog with a history of THREE failed adoptions and returns. The first day I left her by herself, she chewed off the end of her tail, and I came home to find a terrified, blood covered dog that I could NOT get to calm down. After arguing endlessly with the staff at the shelter, and chastising them for failing to disclose that this was a problem dog, I ended up taking her back. I knew that she would be put down - but honestly, what choice did anyone have? She needed medication, and to be around a person full time, but with four failed adoptions already that would never happen. When I gave her to the handler and started to leave, she gave me a look that said "Mommy, you are murdering me" and I cried for the remainder of the day. This was ten years ago, and still upsets me/angers me to this day. Disclosure at shelters MUST happen.
People revile PETA for hypocrisy because they euthanize. Of course they euthanize. What can be done with a dog like yours? Is keeping it alive a mercy? My last shelter dog was pawned off on me in a similar way. Within a week I had him diagnosed with Giardia so bad it resisted normal treatment. He also turned out to have a wrecked thyroid and GI problems that will shorten his life considerably. All of this would have been obvious to anyone working with him for more than one day. He should have been put down as a lost cause. We have a contract, and I am keeping it. We are friends. But many humans, faced with a lifetime of misery, diarrhea, and chronic medical bills (about 5% of my income) would have dumped him a long time ago. And giving him to someone who truly could not afford the medical expense would have been a cruel joke on dog and man.
i believe it is our duty to see that laws are passed and enforced by all mean to protect our best friend as they cannot help themselves, normal people do not know of this , we only see clean well cared for puppies and have no way of knowing how it came to be. this is cruel by antones standard. they need strict regulations that are enforced, not just another law we ignore.
Rockys, people who run puppy mills are already in violation of the law. They already face severe fines and jail and you think more laws are going to stop them from operating. Proably just like more and tougher laws stopped the drug trade in this country. Laws are not going to stop this. Only responsible buyers who take the time to visit the breeders home and view the parents and see for themselves that they are in fact buying a puppy from a reputable breeder and not a puppy mill. Buying puppies from a pet store or online, you only have the word of someone whom is selling the dog for profit. So guess what they are going to say.
The only people you should be blaming for puppy mills is any person who has purchased a puppy without visiting the breeders home and (or) kennels. I know they are cute, but impulse buying has lead to this situtatiuon. So if you have ever purchased a dog on impulse you are part of the problem. Responsible buying practices will have more effect on shutting puppy mills down then any law....
rwhite1032 Right on! I couldn't have said it better
This is good advice because of two sad realities:
1. Laws are neat packages that work more like posts than like fences: A few easy steps to get around them, and suddenly your "dog breeding facility" is not a "puppy mill" -- you know, like Velveeta is "cheese."
2. Big business are by nature sociopathic and they deal in the tool lawmakers respect the most: Money. So "laws" get written with holes in them perfectly fitted to the big donor's Mack truck.
The only answer, however unsatisfactory, is to look for yourself and not succumb to the need to "rescue" an abused puppy from the mill. It sounds cruel. But the truth is, life is cruel. I got my last shelter choice down to three dogs. My preference was for a type of dog that is hard to move, and I am reasonably sure that the two dogs I didn't pick died. I can't help that. I couldn't keep two dogs, or three. I saved one. Save yours at the shelter.
Unfortunately, the HSUS is NOT in any way an animal welfare group...although they may do high-visibility publicity stunts like this, they are a PETA-type animal extermination group. Their agenda is to publicise terrible situations like this pet mill and then eliminate the right of any and all Americans to own pets or breed any animal at any time for any reason. Although we need to stop the suffering of any companion or food animal, we need to do it without the help of HSUS, PETA (People for Exterminating Terrified Animals) and other extremist groups.
This is the kind of filthy smear that I think Americans are finally getting tired of. For those you are listening to this filth, take five minutes at the condemned organizations' web sites and see how many lies you can identify in Irish's bilge.
Dealmaker44, you bet it is cruel. That female dog gives so much of herself to her litter when she is nursing. She needs at least one maybe two heats in between litters. She needs to rebuild her immunities so that she may have another HEALTHY litter at a later time. Love your dog, it is a member of your family.
Thank You,
I agree, But the post from Rain*maker says that he breeds them every heat. He also says he didn't run a puppy mill. I think you've both helped me prove a point. Thank You
"He also says he didn't run a puppy mill."
And prossies will tell you they just do it because they like sex and you are the best. Really!
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