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  • Posted By: fredfrank @ 12/30/2007 12:09:44 AM

    uppityoldlady, I believe articles and headline news such as this are to SHOCK people and to make them do their research. If they had articles praising good kennel owners, these uneducated puppy buyers would assume all kennel owners were humane--but this is not true. People aren't going to budge unless things like this are shoved in their faces. I know the article makes people like you guilty by association, because it's biased, but it sheds light on to an otherwise, hidden problem.

  • Posted By: uppityoldlady @ 12/29/2007 6:10:15 PM

    I was a kennel operator in the mid west for many years. Quite frankly no one wants to hear about the
    responsible breeders. When a network tv crew was coming in to film at a bad place there were 3 kennel owners, myself included who invited them to film our facility to show both sides. They declined. It did not create sensational headlines to visit a clean humane operation. yes, there are careless, inumane breeders but there are also people who take pride in the operation. Think about it. These dogs are your livelihood. Like any oher animal operation the better care you take the more valuable the off spring and the more money you make.

  • Posted By: AZsnowflake @ 12/26/2007 5:47:15 PM

    We bought a Shitzu about 6 years ago that was advertised in the paper. we got her sight-unseen. she had b een mauled by a bigger dog apparently and still had scabs to prove it. She had no idea what real dog food was. She had no papers and was at least 10 pounds under weight. We had gotten her with the hopes of breeding her once and then having her spayed. Our Vet. said she had a really bad infection so could never have babies again. We all are convinced she was used in a type of puppy mill. We love her totally. We have her over feeling threatened by men in particular and little kids. We were really in shock when the people dropped her off. They really did not want us coming to their place of business. we should have reported the phone number to some kind of authorities....

  • Posted By: vstanol @ 12/26/2007 3:07:02 PM

    I was shocked to see that puppymills are so widespread. Fortunately, there are some big-hearted people left to uncover this atrocity. I encourage people to visit where your prospective puppy was raised, by a reputable, AKC-approved breeder. Not all websites are for puppymills. I encourage people to visit my house wherein I raise my poodles. Of course, you have to disinfect your shoes and hands first. I have a non-dog-related job that pays my bills. I'm just trying to promote this perfect breed and most of my website, poodlepassion . com, is devoted to understanding and care of this breed. Also, if you don't meet my standards, you don't get one of my puppies, and I DON'T sell to pet stores.

  • Posted By: vstanol @ 12/26/2007 3:04:58 PM

    I was shocked to see that puppymills are so widespread. Fortunately, there are some big-hearted people left to uncover this atrocity. I encourage people to visit where your prospective puppy was raised, by a reputable, AKC-approved breeder. Not all websites are for puppymills. I encourage people to visit my house wherein I raise my poodles. Of course, you have to disinfect your shoes and hands first. I have a non-dog-related job that pays my bills. I'm just trying to promote this perfect breed and most of my website, poodlepassion . com, is devoted to understanding and care of this breed. Also, if you don't meet my standards, you don't get one of my puppies.

  • Posted By: NOVA Animal Lover @ 12/18/2007 12:08:07 PM

    Under what authority do "Investigators" from HSUS operate? What are their qualifications for their job? How are their "undercover investigations" not warrantless searches? They behave as if they have enforcement authority, and are often quoted as if they are a government agency or somehow "official," but they are simply a private organization with a huge budget. They have created and defined the term, "puppy mill," but I have never seen that defined as a legal term, so they can call whatever they want to a "puppy mill." They have done that to licensed commercial breeders before, who had no legal violations, and have threatened them with arrest unless the breeders turned over their dogs--as if the HSUS has any such authority (they do not). In addition, the photo of the Boston terrier with mange is apparently not from the breeder who is the subject of the article, but the placement of the photo would make readers think that this breeder's dogs look like that. I do not consider this article responsible journalism.

    • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 11:12:12 PM

      The actions of the HSUS in these cases are obviously, at best, theft under false pretenses. Under RICO their entire organization can be abolished and all of their assets taken. It would be about time, too.

      • Posted By: pupfriend @ 12/20/2007 1:53:19 AM

        Nova animal lover: A puppy mill is an establishment that breeds dogs, and sells the puppies in litter lots.
        Around 45 or 50 years ago there was a business called EXcaliber International. A guy named Walt Wehr ran it. He put ada all across the U.S. in newspapers, offering to buy "all of your puppies, sight unseen". He boughtentire litters of pups at a flat rate. Paid for shipping, vaccinations, and health certificates. (there could be one issued for the whole litter). He sold them to pet stores all over the U.S. at about a 300% profit. Then the pet stores sold them to unsuspecting customers at about a 500% profit. He wasn't the only puppy broker, but he was one of the largest.
        Hobby breeders were outraged. They got together, and decided to "blackball" any person who sold entire litters to anyone for a flat fee, whether a puppy broker, or a pet store. The BREEDERS labeled them "puppy millers", and refused to do any kind of business with them. They were shunned at any dog sporting event, and no dog club would allow them to join. NO ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST ORGANIZATION, OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY COINED THE NAME. It doesn't have anything to do with conditions of the facility, or number of dogs housed there. Only that the pups were sold in litter lots to a broker, or pet store. AND it didn't matter if it was one litter, or 100. If you did it once, your place was labeled as a puppy mill. Redeeming yourself took much time, and effort, in the hobby breeding circle. They were a tight knit group then.
        It caused a lot of breeders to stop the practice, but the "back yard breeders", (breeders who bred pets with profit at the forefront, and no concern about quality) kept furnishing him with pups. The novice buyer, and the ethical hobby breeder, whoput so much time, money, and effort into improving their breed, only to see examples of that breed go south at the hands of unscrupulous puppy millers, were the victims. But even more so, the puppies.
        That IS the true definition of a puppy mill. I know, 'cause I was there. When I bought my first registered puppy in 1966 I had to sigh a contract stipulating that when I bred my female, I would never sell the puppies in litter lots, or to a pet store, or puppy broker. HSUS, and PeTa weren't even around then, and the ASPCA wasn't as gung ho about dog's rights as they are now. I don't think the phrase, "animal RIGHTS" was even a term. That came later with the Activists. Groups, we definitely need to protest. I hope this helps those of you who were asking (What exactly IS a puppy mill?) It's NOT a legal term in any way.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 12/20/2007 12:46:18 AM

    Why spend so much for a pedigreed puppy? There are all sorts of animal shelters filled with dogs, cats, puppies and kittens who desperately need good homes. Get your pet there

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 12/17/2007 7:32:10 PM

    "Papers" are worthless. They mean nothing. The AKC gives papers to puppy mill puppies.

    And dogs wiith horrible genetic defects some from "show dog breeders" and have "pedigrees" or "papers."

    • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/19/2007 11:10:23 AM

      In fairness, the AKC does inspect breeders and does has a DNA testing program. Because of that, the puppy mills started their own registries - that don't inspect or DNA test. The AKC isn't perfect, but it's a million times better than these for profit "registries."

      As far as pups with defects, show breeders are actually MORE likely to health test the parents, and when they do so, they tend to produce pups that are healthier than average. There are extensive programs to insure that purebred dogs are healthy, if the breeders choose to use them. Most show breeders, and most serious working and performance breeders, do. Most commercial and casual breeders do not.

      Check out the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals and their CHIC program (all aspects of health, not just orthopedics) at www.offa.org , or the AKC Canine Health Foundation at www.akcchf.org - there is an amazing amount of effort on health being put forth by responsible breeders that helps ALL dogs, not just purebreds.

  • Posted By: atkaman @ 12/17/2007 8:36:19 PM

    Dog lovers clean up this system. Animal rights groups around the country lets get rid of the puppy mills. These folks are not fit to be in business. I wonder how they would feel living under the conditions these animals live under. Its nothing but greed and corruption. It's ashame we just look the other way. Wake up America it''s time to clean house.

    • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 11:13:49 PM

      The HSUS needs to be cleaned up. It is nothing but greed and corruption.

  • Posted By: larinajs @ 12/17/2007 9:33:21 PM

    I've read a lot of the posts here. I think the only way to get a pet is from a shelter or rescue group. If we stop buying them from pet stores and any type of breeder we can shut this system down. It's up to us as consumers. If we don't buy, then there is no demand and they will shut down.

    • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 11:12:58 PM

      If the local pet store hadn't priced itself out of the market I would make a point of buying from them just to spite that idea.

  • Posted By: Concerened Citizen @ 12/17/2007 1:11:09 PM

    Sure there are bad breeders out there, but one thing the Humane Society and PETA (not mentioned in this artlce, but they are in MANY other artices just like this one) repeatedly try to do is make the problem sound bigger and worse then it really is. They aren't trying to shut down the "bad" breeders... they are trying to shut down ALL breeders, even the good ones. Why is it that these people complain about the poor health of puppy-mill (and pet store dogs), but tell you to adopt from their shelters (for a fee) when nearly all their dogs came from those places a few homes ago! You are not getting a better/healthier dog if you adopt (always for a price) from a shelter. If you want a healthy dog go to a small hobby breeder who health tests and see the kennel where they were born and raised. That is the ONLY way to get a healthy well adjusted dog.

    • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/18/2007 11:15:41 AM

      Actually, HSUS has a guide to finding a good breeder on their web site. Some of the employees oppose all breeders, but I dont think the official policy is that draconian. I believe Wayne Pacelle (president of HSUS) even said there was a need for good breeders on his blog.

      It's Peta that opposes all deliberate breeding of animals.

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 12/17/2007 6:43:04 PM

    The poster Concerned Citizen represents the hobby or "reputable" breeders that help support the puppy mills.They aren't as "reputable" as they claim!

    They spread smear about humane groups, because humane groups have exposed the truth about the ugliness of the dog breeder world.

    The AKC (that these hobby breeders are a part of) is IN the puppy mill business. The AKC makes 80 percent of its income registering puppy mill dogs. That is what pays for the "hobby" breeders' dog shows, breed club activities, purebred dog promotion, AKC salaries, etc

    So the AKC gets naive "hobby" breeders to oppose legislation and laws to crack down on puppy mills. The AKC needs the money, and the hobby breeders profit personally from puppy mill money!

    These breeders also lie about humane groups, and spread nonsense about "ending breeding" - anything to help suppress the truth about the mills and keep them in operation and unregulated.

    Not to mention, hobby breeders ARE making money, are NOT paying taxes, and don't want to be licensed or follow rules!

    The dog breeding world is an ugly, sordid one based on fraud, lies, and abuse.

    • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/18/2007 11:13:02 AM

      Bennett, reputable brders do not help support puppy mills. They criticize puppy mills as much, or more, than humane groups. They pay for advertising to combat mills via their breed clubs.

      Yes, they criticize humane groups when they deserve criticism - as we all should. The reputable breeder world is not ugly.

      The AKC does NOT make 80% of its income from puppy mill dogs. About 80% of AKC breeders register one or two litters in a lifetime. About 7-10% are hobby breeders. Commercial breeders make up the remainder.

      Most commercial breeders now are NOT registering AKC, because AKC does inspections and DNA testing. The puppy mills have started their own registries that do not do inspections or verify parentage of puppies.

      Dog shows are paid for by the dog clubs. Breed club activities are paid for by the breed clubs via dues. AKC does not pay for dog shows or for breed club activities.

      Hobby breeders do not make a profit. They do pay taxes when owed. They usually do not owe taxes on activities that operate at a loss. Reputable breeders do a good job, usually at a loss, because they love dogs. It costs a lot to breed dogs well and to be responsible.

      Obviously you dont know much about the reputable breeding world, but it would be good not to spread misinformation.

  • Posted By: ciperry @ 12/17/2007 12:14:12 AM

    I run a no kill shelter for dogs and cats. It hurts everytime I see an ad for puppys, knowing that as soon as they are no longer cute, most will end up in a shelter or even killed or worse yet just abandoned in the streets or in the country where they have to fend for themselves. I work with our local pound and am full almost constantly with these wonderful, sweet pets.

    My husband and I are disabled but these dogs are cared for out of our own pocket. The vet bills are paid for by us. I have even gotten a part time job just to pay expenses for these unwanted dogs. There are just not enough homes to go around and people keep breeding more.

    Before you decide to breed puppys PLEASE check out your local shelter and see all of the wonderful pets you will be killing or leaving to live their lives out in the shelter. A shelter is a temporary home not a forever home.

    • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 2:31:13 AM

      Prove that most puppies end up in shelters when they are "no longer cute."

  • Posted By: doglady522 @ 12/16/2007 10:13:10 AM

    After reading your article I felt like I ought to make a comment. Not all breeders that sell to pet stores are puppie mills. If a breeder has license, they also have rules and regulations to follow. It is up to the inspectors to weed the bad breeders out. There are a lot of good breeders out here. While I was raising dogs and puppies, I had 3 inspectors coming to visit my kennel. All were well satified. I sure that there are more people like me that had air, heat and clean kennels and they sale to pet stores. So again, not all breeders are bad, you just hear about the bad ones.

    • Posted By: pupfriend @ 12/18/2007 1:29:04 AM

      dog lady, they may not be puppy mills, but they are NOT responsible, or reputable breeders. If they were, they world make certain they met, and investigated the people who were buying their puppies. They can't do that if they sell them to a pet store. They can't require that the pups be spayed/neutered. No way to make sure all the offspring produced by these pups will end up in good caring homes. Fact is, there should be NO offspring produced by these pups, but selling to a pet store eliminates that option.

    • Posted By: jenniferl1231 @ 12/17/2007 12:51:30 PM

      You are wrong. Not all breeders are licensed and inspected. A business license has nothing to do with any types of standards for humane facilities. As a backyard breeder, you should know a little bit more about which you speak. I also think you're being irresponsible in the way you sell your pets. Are you unable to sell your puppies yourself? Do you not care about who buys your dogs? Do you sell across state lines? Never, never buy from a pet store.

  • Posted By: crofts @ 12/16/2007 10:44:08 AM

    I am leaving my comment b/c I am an animal rights supporter and I have seen these videos from some of the "puppy mills" and it sickens my heart. I agree with the investigator, some of the conditions in which these dogs are subjected to is absolutely absurd and cruel. You think about how these animals feel being in these small cages and in the elements and yu have to think, how would I feel if that were me...I know that these animals have feelings like you and I and I know that they feel pain, fear, loneliness and all of the emotions that we as humans feel. It is unfair and unjust the way some people who breed these animals think of these dogs as nothing but a profit and don't consider the feelings of the animal. Maybe they should be put into a cage with barely enough room to turn around and left out in the weather to shiver from the cold or burn up in the heat and have to depend on someone to feed them and show them love and affection and maybe they would be able to feel what these dogs feel and then it would change. I think that a legislation should be passed that if you are investigated and there are conditions like these, the person should be fined in astronomical amounts and should be placed under arrest for felony animal cruelty and never be allowed to breed dogs or even own an animal again. SHUT THEM DOWN....that is what I think needs to happen to these places, don't give them a chance to stay in business, amke sure that the word gets out that they are treating these animals this way and shut them down and make them do jail time and pay fines, maybe setting an example out of a few of them would make them rest of them change the way they treat their dogs. I hate animal abuse and would never treat an animal of mine to such cruelty. I have 16 cats and 9 dogs, all of them are shown love and affection on a daily basis and they have clean shelter and food everyday, that is the way animals should be treated, not like a commodity to make a profit from. To any of my fellow animal lovers...please write to your congress and if you suspect a puppy mill in your area or community, call your local humane society or PETA and see if you can help to stop this abuse!!!!!!

    • Posted By: rain*man @ 12/16/2007 11:27:00 AM

      Crofts, puppy mils ARE illegal, they ARE shut down, heavy fines ARE given. but new laws do nothing. Criminals do NOT (by definition) care what the law is. By the way according to the law and USDA regulations, YOU must be licsensed to have that many animals, so by definition YOU are operating a puppy/cat mill. Are you a criminal? I doubt it, and niether are most of the people being bashed here and in this very lopsided, opinionated article

      • Posted By: aquagrrl @ 12/16/2007 2:58:31 PM

        rain*man, puppy mills are not illegal. Not by a long shot. In fact, the USDA encourages dog breeding as a type of agricultural "crop" if you will, like live stock. There are plenty of laws against the cruelty found in many large dog breeding operations, but many USDA inspectors look the other way.

        And no, you don't need to be licensed to have over a certain number of animals if your community allows it - just if you breed and sell over a certain number a year. And in those cases, all the USDA really cares about is if you have the license so they can get their share of the money.

        • Posted By: rain*man @ 12/16/2007 3:17:42 PM

          Aquagrrl, come up from the deep and get some oxygen. Read the law, I did. I also complied with it. Puppy mills are without doubt illegal. A "puppy mill" is not merely a breed facility it is a breeder that has zero concern for the animal's health or conditions. And YES for the number of animals, even if spayed or neutered, the person claims to have, the law DOES require a license and minimum space and care requirements along with at least yearly inspections regardless of any other laws. These space and care standards are the same for breeders, shelters, kennels, etc... Local and state law does not trump this law.

          • Posted By: aquagrrl @ 12/17/2007 12:42:14 AM

            What law? A statute or even a link referencing a federal law that limits a certain number of animals and/or requires inspections would be great. I'd also like to hear about this law that legally defines what a puppy mill is, because that's a new one for me.

            Now, since you won't be able to find either, here is a link to the USDA's own site about commercial breeding regulations I am referring to: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_welfare/content/printable_version/animal_welfare4-06.pdf

            • Posted By: pupfriend @ 12/18/2007 1:20:43 AM

              Like a lot of the websites the government puts out, this one nearly always experiences difficulties, and they give you web address where you are asked to report the difficulty, so you go to that site, and lo, and behold, it is an unavailable page. If we are made to feel like mushrooms, it isn't by accident.

      • Posted By: pupfriend @ 12/17/2007 2:04:36 AM

        Crofts...I have 20 dogs. They live in my house . At night they go to thier crates, (IN MY HOUSE). They have a doggie door, where they go out to a covered exercise pen, that is now incased in plastic to protect them from the winter weather while they potty. My neighbor across the alley has a yellow Lab, who is, as I type, sleeping outside on concrete with an unheated dog house, NO DOOR. My neighbor in back has Beagle Hound who is, as I type, chained to the back step, with no dog house, and only a blanket on the grass to try to keep warm. Gee. Have I filed complaints with the authorities? You bet, and yet these "PETS" are living in far worse conditions than my 20 kids. Cruelty isn't limited to breeders. Humanity is, sometimes a tragic thing

      • Posted By: aquagrrl @ 12/17/2007 12:43:13 AM

        rain*man, puppy mills are not illegal. Not by a long shot. In fact, the USDA encourages dog breeding as a type of agricultural "crop" if you will, like live stock. There are plenty of laws against the cruelty found in many large dog breeding operations, but many USDA inspectors look the other way.

        And no, you don't need to be licensed to have over a certain number of animals if your community allows it - just if you breed and sell over a certain number a year. And in those cases, all the USDA really cares about is if you have the license so they can get their share of the money.

  • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/17/2007 1:13:30 AM

    You know, you have an "undercover investigator" who wanders through a place, takes pictures and all, who then releases those pictures weeks to months later after there is time to have remade the whole movie. We've all seen Hollywood show things like dogs flying through space, so faking up someone's setup is a snap. The Weavers won't get to confront this "witness" against them and they will be tried in the press.


    • Posted By: TxJenny @ 12/17/2007 2:04:23 AM

      You're an idiot! Even one animal living in those kinds of circumstances is too many. No business should profit off of suffering. It should be stopped.

      • Posted By: reneem07 @ 12/17/2007 4:52:37 PM

        You must be a puppy mill owner, or you're just plain stupid.

        • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 12:49:09 AM

          Didn't you just say that?

  • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/17/2007 1:17:00 AM

    The HSUS is NOT the humane society. It is a political action organization that harasses legitimate businesses. Newsweek has obviously not researched the HSUS at all, to allow such an article to be published. Just look up the connections between the HSUS and PeTA, and John Goodwin, who spent time in jail for terrorist activities. Then they have the gall to sneak around someone's place, win their trust to break it, just for their co-called investigation. The HSUS has absolutely no right to investigate anyone and it is not trustworthy.

    • Posted By: reneem07 @ 12/17/2007 4:45:45 PM

      You must be a puppy mill owner.

      • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 12:12:25 AM

        In other words, when the law says such and such and the judge, the AG, the veterinary office, and the local sheriff agree that the owner has obeyed the law, then the owner is innocent and the charges were probably unfounded in the first place. Deborah, I presume, is just one of many people who want to use the law against breeders. They obviously forget that the law offers protection for legitimate businessmen or women who actually conduct their business in a legal manner. I think that Deborah's problem may be that she wanted the law to do something special just for her.

      • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/18/2007 12:09:33 AM

        Because I don't believe that it's an evil conspiracy when the law won't do things my way?

    • Posted By: Mooey558 @ 12/17/2007 5:36:13 PM

      I agree with the other person who posted. You must be a puppy mill owner or someone who thinks that animals are property. I worked for another animal welfare organization and HSUS is nothing like PETA. They actively go out and do investigations and help many shelters, organizations and people willing to help pets have better lives away from the people that are mistreating them. They are a good organization that works very hard. They are not perfect, but who is. They do their best and they are continuing to try and get the best information out there to help people and their pets or possible pets.

      • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/17/2007 11:56:02 PM

        Animals ARE property.

  • Posted By: rarelypost @ 12/17/2007 2:34:03 AM

    There is an important lesson to be learned from all of this... Check out the place you are considering getting a pet from first! It truly doesn't matter whether you are thinking of going to a breeder, petstore, or shelter, it is our job as the people considering getting pets to check out where they come from and how they have been raised. I hear horrible things about breeders, but I have seen many wonderful, caring, responsible breeders. The key to breeders is to check them out first! (AKC has some wonderful tips on finding a good breeder, what to watch for, when to walk away, etc). I hear daily about how everyone should go to a shelter as their dogs are well cared for. Obviously there are pros and cons to that as well, however that's another story. I have personally seen 2 local shelters (Humane Societies) that had horrible conditions, unclean kennels, no outside time at all for dogs, starving animals, and neglected pets. Animals that came in healthy left emaciated, sick, and terrified. Yes, 1 of those 2 shelters was shut down, and the other one has improved, but it's still not the great place i hear described by so many. The point... Check each place out First! Don't just trust the name on the building or the type of place, it is our responsibility to "investigate" where we get our pets from, Before we give the place our business.

    • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/17/2007 11:37:44 PM

      Thank you, Rarely. Who watches the watchers?

  • Posted By: nadjalyn @ 12/17/2007 10:50:17 PM

    my x-mas wish is for all puppy mills to be shut down as quickly as possible, but in order for this to take place we must STOP PURCHASING INNOCENT ABUSED AND TORTURE ANIMALS [ KNOW AS PET [ from this puppy mill organization, it would be a dream come true if this puppy mills came to an end once and for all.

  • Posted By: DMVL @ 12/17/2007 8:02:53 PM

    "Papers" on their own are worthless. If you are going to spend hundreds of dollars on a dog, you ought to be researching the breed and visiting breeders before you get one. A good breeder is one who wants to get to know you, invites you over to help socialize the puppies, makes you sign a contract that says if you can no longer care for the dog, the dog will go back to her. The breeder wants to know you so you go home with the right puppy for you. Puppies need to be socialized early so that they are comfortable around humans. The contract makes sure the dog always has a good home.

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