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  • Posted By: boxermom03 @ 12/17/2007 7:24:16 PM

    Thanks for bringing this story to the forefront at a time when families are looking for a cute, quick gift that will be found in a shelter or pound 2 or 3 months from now when the newness has worn off and the responsibility of being a pet owner has sunk in. While mant good animals can be found in shelters, it's wrong to blankly state to people to get their pet from a shelter and forget what's offered at pet stores or online. The wise future pet owner should prepare for their addition - size when full grown, temperment, food consumption and how much grooming it will require. Additionally, check the animal's blood lines if seeking a "papered" pet. And, lastly, look at the home from which the animal has come:
    clean, room to stretch and play, etc. Ask to see one or both parents, which should be on-site or easily acessible. Then make your decision.

  • Posted By: boxermom03 @ 12/17/2007 7:10:16 PM

    Thanks for opening the eyes of those that aren't smart enough to check the background from which their puppy came. It's wrong to blankly state that people should get dogs from shelters instead of pet stores and online. People purchasing puppies should actually check the puppy's papers and or bloodline. The wise pet owner should be offered the opportunity to visit the site from which the puppy was housed and raised it first 6 - 8 weeksand see one or both of the puppy's parents on site

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 12/17/2007 6:56:42 PM

    Info on the Petland stores (they sell puppies from puppy mills) at http://www.petstorecruelty.org/boycottpetland.htm

    Very com plete info on puppy mills and what to do at http://stoppuppymills.org/

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 12/17/2007 6:46:44 PM

    As you can see by some of these posts, there are VETERINARIANS and VET STUDENTS in the puppy and kitten mill business.

    Unethical and immoral. And quite possibly illegal.

    They need to be reported.

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 12/17/2007 6:23:53 PM

    cmsy, you can research your puppy's origins at http://www.petshoppuppies.org/

    File a report http://stoppuppymills.org/forms/tell_us_your_story.html

  • Posted By: iluvdachs @ 12/16/2007 11:50:53 PM

    I want to stand up for the few good breeders out there. Not all puppies sold online via websites are from puppy mills. I am a SMALL breeder of wirehaired dachshunds. ALL of my dogs live in our home as pets and a part of our family (including puppies)...they are NEVER kenneled, they are occasionally confined in a "dog ROOM" that has access to the outside run, when we have guests who cannot tolerate them due to allergies, etc. I'm here to say there is no money to be made in breeding correctly. If I can not find an acceptable "forever" home for puppies at 8 weeks, they will live with us until I can (if not EVER...then they live here forever). As a breeder of PUREBRED dogs, my goal is to produce puppies with sound temperments and excellent conformation to their breed standard, as I want to continue to better the dachshund breed, and bring other people the joys I have experienced having owned them as pets myself. My point in this post is this....Not all breeders of PUREBRED dogs are bad! Some of us are responsible and reputable. Some tips on finding reputable breeders include...visit their kennel or home, ask to see the dogs living quarters. Ensure the breeder has a solid contract expressly stating what he/she desires to have happen to the puppy in the event the new owner is unable to provide for them. I personally will accept back any dog I've produced, for ANY REASON, and at any age! I have devoted my life to the creatures I've brought into the world and several "rescues" as well.

    • Posted By: Mooey558 @ 12/17/2007 5:39:29 PM

      You are so right that not all breeders online or otherwise are bad. Some (as you seem to be) genuinely love their animals and do take care to make sure the breed is well respected in the breeding process and also that they are all socialized - puppies and parents. Keep up the good work because if there are going to continue to be purebred dogs out there, we need responsible breeders who genuinely Care.

  • Posted By: Mooey558 @ 12/17/2007 5:31:28 PM

    I agree that "animal" mills should be shut down. The animals that are being bred should be kept in clean areas, loved and socialized just like our pets. I recently bought a pure-breed puppy, but not before I did some research on the breeder that I had contacted and as one of the other people posting - i walked around their property and saw that the dogs were not kept outside, except when they were whelping and then there was a vet tech on the property to help and make sure that everything went ok. The breeder was also a veterinary student and took care of the puppies and the parents exceptionally well. As for adopting from rescues, I totally agree with that as well. I have 3 cats that are rescued, and two dogs that are now well into their senior years -one is 18 and the other is 11. They are very well taken care of now, but they came to me with a lot of issues having been abused and starved by so-called "normal" loving people. You don't have to own an "animal" mill to think that animals are propery to be treated any way you like and then disposed of whenever they don't fit into your life or your idea of what a pet should be. Treating animals with respect as well as people is a good idea.

  • Posted By: reneem07 @ 12/17/2007 5:10:00 PM

    Not only do the puppy mills need to be shut down, so do the kitty mills. I purchased a Seal Point Hemi from a supposedly "reputable breeder." I found her online and she appeared to be very sincere in her knowledge and love for cats. I was horrified when I arrived at her home, (3 hours from my house) she had at least 6 litters of kittens, the place reeked of urine and the cats were terrified of humans. She had them in small cages, and some were free to roam. I had already put down a (very large) deposit and was commited to purchasing the kitten, I got her home on December 1 and she was sick for two solid weeks, my trips to the vet did not seem to be helping and she was not diagnoised with any disease. However, she was not old enough to leave her mother and I found out later via e-mail from this breeder that she was not fully weaned. The stress of being yanked away from her mother and no socialization took a toll on her. I am glad to say that she is doing much better now. I have learned my very hard lesson about these mills. Both my dogs were rescue dogs, one found on the side of the road, ( I've had him for 14 years!) . Cats By Francy in Lafayette La was the name of the kitty mill.

  • Posted By: TomKirby @ 12/17/2007 1:10:45 AM

    Newsweek swallows this tripe whole? They should know better.

    • Posted By: TxJenny @ 12/17/2007 2:05:29 AM

      You're an idiot!!!

      • Posted By: reneem07 @ 12/17/2007 4:47:59 PM

        You must be a puppy mill owner, or you are just plain stupid.

  • Posted By: chdlovesjll @ 12/16/2007 10:09:09 PM

    Although puppy mills are horrible places and should be outlawed somehow, those puppies need good homes too. I got both my dogs from a pet store and I wouldn't trade them for the world. The breeding industry needs more restrictions and laws to be enforced so that the animals are protected.

    • Posted By: jenniferl1231 @ 12/17/2007 1:31:41 PM

      How do you not understand that your rationale makes no sense? You buy from a pet store, the pet store buys more dogs from a puppy mill. A 4th grader could explain this to you. Stop buying from a pet store.

  • Posted By: newsjunqie @ 12/17/2007 1:28:56 PM

    Puppies aren't the only "mill" animal. Parrot breeders are also guilty, particularly where it's just a business. I saw firsthand that Birds Unlimited, a large bird store in Metairie, LA, is guilty of being a mill. The backroom conditions were ugly and they hide the pathetically deformed birds under counters hoping they'll also sell them to tender-hearted people. What the purchasers don't know is that the birds are deformed because the fledglings were in small cages when they were hatched and their mothers had to lay on them, so the young birds chests and legs couldn't develop normally. The pet business is a big one, and purchasers need to make informed decisions about who they get their animals from. If these people continue to make a profit, they can and will stay in business. I would love to see all of these businesses closed.

  • Posted By: ardene29 @ 12/16/2007 6:31:29 PM

    I have tried to adopt puppies from shelter and like others have said, they charge high price, dont give you time with animal and if you dont have a fenced in yard, they wont even let you adopt. Dogs from there are usually tagged with medical issues, have bad temperment and not easily trained. Most ppl just want to go buy a 8 week old puppy that you can take to your local vet and have checked out and the pup is usually healthy, happy and is young and you can train right off the bat. No bad temperments and fresh from the start. If you have to pay the extra money for a pet store money, it almost saves you time and money rather than the hassle of what you find in mixed breed dog from kennels. Why go threw all adoption hassle for a puppy or dog and you have no idea whats gonna happen when you get home.

    • Posted By: jenniferl1231 @ 12/17/2007 1:25:29 PM

      You're very stupid. Shelters (I'm not talking about breed-specific rescues) charge minimal fees. If you can't spend $200 to adopt a dog, you should not have one. A pet shop puppy will cost you a lot more money in medical bills and even more in heartache. Some rescues do require a yard for some types of dogs because they are so large. I don't agree with this most of the time because people will just dump their dog in the yard when what the dog really needs is to walk. I adopted from a wonderful rescue group in Las Vegas (Heaven Can Wait Sanctuary) which actually sends the dogs to the women's prison to be socialized and trained by the inmates. I got so lucky to have a wonderful little dog with virtually no behavior problems for the incredibly low price of $200. He does chase cats. So be it.

      Some people should not have pets. They are not accessories.

    • Posted By: pupresq @ 12/17/2007 9:31:16 AM

      This just isn't true! The prices charged at animal shelters are minimal and almost always cover veterinary work that's already been done - at prices far below what you can expect to pay at your vet clinic. Around here you can save hundreds of dollars by getting a dog at a shelter and paying up front for altering and vaccinations. As far as dogs with issues - that's not true either. Our shelters are full of wonderful, healthy, and extremely adoptable dogs. If you don't want to get a dog from a shelter, get one from a rescue group. And most reputable rescue groups are happy to let you get the dog checked out by your vet before committing or offer a money back trial period.

    • Posted By: abbysue1998 @ 12/16/2007 7:25:38 PM

      Sounds to me like the problem is with the shelter you were dealing with. No dog should be adopted out to a family before they have had a chance to spend some time with it. And no responsible shelter would knowing adopt out an animal with a bad or dangerous temperment. The only time that should be done would be to a trainer or rescue group that is interested in rehabilitating the dog and addressing it's temperment issues. At a well run shelter, medical issues should be addressed and treated before the animal is put up for adoption, unless of course, the animal has a condtion, like diabeties, that requires daily medication. In those cases they should be adopted out to home that are aware that this is a special needs pet. Every single dog put up for adoption at my local shelter has Successfully undergone basic training, and for the life time of the dog you can bring it back any time for more work with the shelter's trainer. My local shelter charges 45.00 to adopt a cat and 65.00 to adopt a dog. This includes an id microchip, spay or neuter, flea and mite prevention treatment, and that annual vaccines for that year. If you adopt a kitten or a puppy, you simply bring them back in when they are old enough for the appropriate surgery or vaccine. To have all that stuff done to a new puppy at one of our local vets costs around 250.00 and about 175.00 for a kitten. In the long run you save money. Their adoption process and screening is thorough enough to find safe loving homes for animals but is not what I would call a hassle. Best of all, if an animal does not work out for your family, the shelter will take it back and refund your adoption fee, for up to 6 months after adoption. Normally that is plenty of time. It is very unfortunate for the animals in their care that your shelter appears to have such unreasonable and unfair practices. It is a diservice to both the animals and potential pet owners

  • Posted By: Cssndra @ 12/17/2007 10:27:43 AM

    I bought my Golden from a breeder here in Georgia after doing a good bit of research. I walked the property - and it was no puppy mill. It was a working farm, and the owner bred two types of dogs and did NOT breed them every time the dogs were in season.

    I now have a wonderful, year old darling dog. I picked her up at six weeks and being the runt of the litter was a bit small, but she has now come into her own. Her littermates were all in excellent health, and I was provided with the papers of the parents, the grand parents, and all the vetrinary records of neo natal and then puppy care.

    I found this to be a fantastic experience, and would do it again.

    That being said, I had previously purchased a kitten from a pet store...something I will never do again. Evidently, the kitten had been raised in a filthy environment, which led to her having contracted some sort of parasite that ate her brain. I had her four days before she started having convulsions and died in my arms.

    Bad People - No Biscuits!

  • Posted By: bunnynell @ 12/16/2007 11:45:00 PM

    Creekside Pom Mom, you may love the dogs you breed and you may treat them very well. Unfortunately, you are a big part of the problem of pet overpopulation. If you think you aren't, then I invite you to visit any animal shelter in your area to see how many poms and min-pins are in need of good homes. I just checked my local animal shelter website. 3 min-pins and 7 poms. Dogs like these will never get good homes as long as idiots like you continue to breed animals. STOP BREEDING DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: Sandy38853 @ 12/17/2007 8:43:13 AM

      Pure bred dogs are most often purchased by people who have educated themselves on what breed of dog will fit in their lifestyle. I find more fault with the people who go to these shelters, fall in love with a cute pupply/dog and take them home only to find that the puppy/dog is too active, or prefers to be an "in" dog when they wanted an "out" dog, etc. This is so sad for the dog and the family when their act of kindness goes bad. Over 10 years, with 2 Moms and 2 Dads, I bred 3 litters of Golden Retrievers..33 puppies in all. These pups were supplemental fed, lived in my house and they were each lovingly handled and played with. My children were involved with them, were careful not to scare the pups in any way, and they helped me make sure that not one pupply was underfed, nervouse, anxious or head shy. These pups went to great homes where they all lived out their lives happily with the same family. I made sure that each family was aware of the "TRAITS" of this breed and they knew what to basically expect of their puppy. This cannot be done with mixed breeds most of the time. I became a victim of the "adoption center system" when I did bring home a mixed breed puppy, Benji type. Oh yeah, he was so adorable and the center told me that he was loving and sweet. They didn't know too much about him because he was a stray but he showed no signs of aggression. They said that he acted appropriately when around children that had visited him. Too bad they didn't know how he would be around small children out side of the center. What I got for my good deed of adopting him was a mark against me for future adoptions when I was had to return him. I feel like I did an act of kindness by placing my puppies with people who really wanted a Golden Retriever and who knew that they were habitual escape artists who sometimes don't listen and they need an incredible amount of freedom to run. Not one of my puppies came back to me, even though they could have been returned at any time. Leave good breeders alone. They are helping to lessen the load on the adoption centers by placing dogs in "suitable" homes by breed.

    • Posted By: Sandy38853 @ 12/17/2007 8:21:17 AM

      You are being so unfair with your accusations. There are people who buy and/or breed "pure breeds" for very good reasons. Most people choose to purchase a "pure breed puppy" because they are looking for a particular type of dog whose disposition and actions will fit into their lifestyle. This forethought always helps to keep the population in the shelters down. There are breeds of dogs who do not work well in working families, just as there are breeds who need alot of space...not necessarily due to size! That adorable puppy that you fall in love with at the shelter and want to "save" could turn out to be your worse nightmare if the pups heritage is not what works well with your family. Puppy then has to go thru being taken back and placed again. So sad for puppy/dog and for the family. I bred three litters of pure bred Golden Retrievers (2 Moms, 2 Dads) over 10 years. These puppies stayed in my house. They were supplemental fed with mixtures that included strained baby beef and baby vitamins. My children were careful not to "scare" the puppies with any loud noises and each puppy, (13 in one litter), was lovingly handled and played with individually. These puppies were playful and healthy, no head shy, no nervous anxious puppies. They were vet checked by my own vet and sold to very good homes where each puppy lived out their life happily. We had a total of 33 puppies over the years in these 3 litters. Maybe you can say that there were 33 puppies in the adoption shelters that I caused not to get a home, but I look at it like there were 33 families looking for a dog and I supplied them with a the type of dog that they wanted and that would not be casted off as being "unsuitable". I did own a mixed breed that I got from a shelter, Benji type. Too bad that the shelter didn't know that the dog should not have been housed with small children. He had been a stray brought in, they really thought that he was sweet and lovable. I could not keep this dog and in having to take him back it caused me to have a strike against me at the adoption center making it difficult for me to adopt another dog. I much prefer seeing a particular breed of dog placed with a particular type of family.

    • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/17/2007 7:20:08 AM

      Actually, good breeders DON'T cause overpopulation - and beating up on them just helps the mills. If you want to reduce unwanted dogs, prevent unplanned and unwanted litters, and go after abusive commercial facilities. Don't demonize the good breeders who are responsible for what they breed.

      This trend to attack good breeders helps the mills.

  • Posted By: kombucha @ 12/17/2007 8:19:36 AM

    You'd think some high-end L.A. pet store could actually afford their animals from breeders who have better quality and probably purebred animals. Well, then again I'm not that surprised.

  • Posted By: bennett6252 @ 12/16/2007 4:42:15 PM

    The AKC is IN the puppy mill business.

    Their registrations are worthless.

    The AKC "inspection" program is a joke. Some of the worst millers have bragged that the AKC helps them stay in business, and doesn't bother them.

    The AKC makes 80 percent of its income from puppy mill registrations. The AKC NEEDS the puppy mills to pay for the dog shows, the breed clubs, the purebred dog promotion, the salaries, everything.

    Blood money from the puppy mills pays the AKC bills.

    This is why you see AKC breeders opposing any kind of rules or regulations for puppy mills. The AKC breeders PROFIT from the puppy mills. That money holds the world of breeding together.

    Hypocrisy beyond measure.

    • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/17/2007 7:34:52 AM

      Again, most mill dogs are not AKC any more. You may think their inspections are a joke, but the result was that the mills started their own registries. Most don't use AKC.

  • Posted By: Dealmaker44 @ 12/16/2007 5:00:29 PM

    Hey Breeders, How about some reality. For every purebred AKC registered $1500.00 "pup" you sell another gets euthanized in a shelter. I know, you love animals!
    PS how many "litters" do you take before you retire the "***". How would you or your wife feel after giving birth to 3 sets of septuplets. But your no puppy mill right!

    • Posted By: rain*man @ 12/16/2007 5:17:37 PM

      I agree with you Dealmaker....you're parents NEVER should have bred....ooops, my bad you were talking about the dogs, but you did bring up the wife thing. BTW nearly ALL of those $1500 dogs live with one owner a very long life because most breeders do an outstanding job. The true "puppy mill" is just like you, totally ignorant of how to care for animals and always screwing it up for the people that do things the right way.

      • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/17/2007 7:33:04 AM

        Actually, it doesn't work that way. In general, dogs that are euthanized are from unplanned, unwanted litters - are adult dogs that are relinquished - are hard to adopt breeds like pit bulls - or are unlucky enough to live in a community that doesn't have good adoption programs. Breeding a litter does not kill a shelter dog - shelter dogs can and have been very successfully "marketed" as desirable pets.

        Think about it - if someone is paying a lot of money for something they can get very inexpensively, there is a reason for the preference. whether you agree with it or not. If more people PREFER shelter pets, it puts the mills out of business. Reducing the supply usually reduces the supply of local reputable breeders - leaving more market for the mills. You have to change the DEMAND.

        There is a bunch of great information on how to better "market" homeless pets in Nathan Winograd's book Redemption. This approach works!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: Dealmaker44 @ 12/16/2007 5:23:24 PM

        Enjoyable, what point are you attempting to make? That Puppy Millers, that think they are good breeders shouldn't face their own reality. That what they do is NOT cruel. You must have misinterpreted or, didn't listen in your reading comprehension classes, oh yeah I forgot, I must cut you some slack you are the rainman. Read it again, and maybe you get it this time.

        • Posted By: luvwaltdisney @ 12/16/2007 5:32:49 PM

          Dealmaker is drinking the PETA kool aide and clearly does not realize what a responsible breeder is and that thier dogs are treated better than their kids most of the time. But it is easier to just follow the other lemmings.

          I guarantee that if I couldn't buy from a responsible breeder, I would NOT go get a dog from a shelter, that is a BS myth that you are killing a dog if you do. No thanks, I will go with the health tested, temprament tested and reliable personality of the purebred of my choosing.

          • Posted By: Dealmaker44 @ 12/16/2007 5:47:00 PM

            Actually, I enjoy red meat, no PETA here. Also I am a republican capitalist. Apparently you either are educated at the University of Mickey Mouse, or just work at disney, and think Pluto is really a dog. So now that my cheap insults are done. I will explain my point to you in a way that you may attempt to understand it.

            If you are breeder, who thinks that the puppy mill is the only bad place to get an animal. Think again, Look in your own yard. How many times do you breed the female. How often do all 20 of your animals get to socialize with humans, there best friends. Do you keep them in kennels the majority of the time. So, Mr. walt disney luver, or should I say breeder. Don't think that just because you only sell 50 pups a year can't make you a puppy mill. It's about the treatment of the animals while they are being bred.
            PS I grammar checked this for 7th grade, you should be able to understand it now.

            • Posted By: rain*man @ 12/16/2007 6:34:51 PM

              Dealmaker, you asked , I'll answer. Breed every heat ..yes Human contact....(actually 38 german sheperds), every day 12-14 hours a day cleaning up after that many dogs IS a full time job. They would run on 12 acres outside when not playing with me, my kids, or visitors wanting to buy. Most of their time in a kennel?...yes...locked in at night but willingly during the day because dogs actually prefer small areas (they are den dwellers) but I'm sure you never realized that. No i didn't sell 50 dogs a year it was more like 300 and NO I was not a mill. you people REALLY need to learn what a "puppy mill" really is. Over half of my dogs protected your freedom to enjoy your blissfull ignorance with the military and police.

              • Posted By: Dealmaker44 @ 12/16/2007 7:05:05 PM

                You must really be afraid of your own operation. I never mentioned anything about you and your dog manufacturing. Sounds to me like you are a bit concerned. If you sleep at night, good for you. If your not about a puppy mill, than what are you afraid of. Like I said, Puppy mills are not categorized by the amount of animals, but on the treatment and environment. you continue to disagree, but everything you say agrees. Are you confused, or stupid. I choose the latter. By the way you nor your animals protect me or my freedom for blissful ignorance. But you did defend your blissful ignorance in your above statement. I guess to you and your Alabama Dog Manufacturing Plant you feel no remorse as to overbreeding your animals. As you say every heat, breed em, wait 62 days, sell the "pups" then go to Wal-Mart and spend your "Earnings". If you still dont get it, consult a tutor, they might be able to help you.

          • Posted By: catgirl17 @ 12/16/2007 5:53:57 PM

            No one here is talking about shutting down responsible breeders of purebred puppies. I don't personally understand why it would be so important to have a "purebreed" dog, unless you intend to to show it, but that is a personal choice. No well-bred dog would or could come from a puppymill, so you wouldn't be getting what you want anyway. The act of breeding large numbers of dogs in poor conditions ruins the health of the line. The owners of puppymills are in it only for the money. They do not care about the health, disposition and pure lines of the dogs the way that a true breeder does. You are muddling the argument. Incidently, anyone who loves animals should support PETA- they are working diligently, along with other animal rights groups such as the ASPCA and the HSUS, to improve the treatment of all animals. Because of the hard work of these groups, we will have responsible breeding practices, fewer unhealthy and unwanted animals in shelters across the country, and laws to support this and make it happen. Pay attention. Do your research. Support groups working to stop puppymills and other cruel treatment of innocent animals.

  • Posted By: pugs4us @ 12/16/2007 6:08:28 PM

    puppy mills are rampant in Ms., and Mo. that I personally know of. Of course there are many more, but I live in Tn. and have seen some horrible settings in Ms.

    • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/17/2007 7:29:29 AM

      Actually, most puppy mill puppies are NOT AKC. They are registered with other regiestriies since AKC started cracking down on mills. Take a look - there are a whole slew of "paper only" registries that puppy mills use. They are getting along just fine without AKC.

  • Posted By: OysterB @ 12/16/2007 7:50:35 PM

    As the daughter of a legitimate dog breeder, I have to say that I disagree that most purebred dogs come from puppy mills. Of course Puppy mills exist, but what the author fails to mention is that most of those puppies go to pet stores. My mother has raised and bred Labrador Retrievers for thirty years. As a breeder she has a strict screening procthaess for selling and breeding dogs. She personally interviews and investigates any potential owners for her puppieives the puppies their first round of shots. She breeds to show
    aand to better the breed, not just to make profit. She truly loves her dogs and her puppies are always in excellent conditions. They are happy to greet and play with anyone visiting them and all litters are AKC registered. The only breeders who run puppy mills are what we legitimate breeders call "backyard breeders" because they do not follow the same regiment that most AKC breeders do. I would suggest that if you want to get a puppy from a legitimate breeder. You can always tell who is legit by having a conversation with a breeder and seeing if they want to meet with you personally and if they ask you a lot of questions regarding your living conditions. Also, if you visit a breeders home, puppies should always be friendly and want to come and play with you, and be playing with other puppies.

    • Posted By: kim1959 @ 12/16/2007 8:10:04 PM

      While your mother's actions may be noble, just remember that one of the worst reasons there are so many puppy mills to begin with is because the AKC will register any dog (as long as you can prove it's "purebred") just to make money. I've had so many people that I know who've bought dogs at pet stores say something to the effect that they are going to breed their dog just "so they can have the experience" and others who say, "well, they're AKC registered, so they must be good."
      Please.
      I will repeat...one of the biggest problems with puppy mills is that the AKC will register anything with an AKC registration number behind it. The AKC should be investigated, in my opinion, for being a direct contributor to the puppy mill industry.

      • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/17/2007 7:26:53 AM

        Most commercially bred dogs aren't AKC any more, so why pick on AKC? What about the "paper only" regisitries the mills use?

  • Posted By: genesis123 @ 12/16/2007 10:14:55 PM

    I reread my comments, and I can see how one would think I was defending puppy mills I am not!!!! I am just wondering why the cattle industry is not criticized as well. Do only dogs have feelings? If it is wrong for dogs, why is it okay for cattle? Should we be looking into laws passed there as well?
    What do you mean, cattle breeding is difficult? I never found that to be true.
    I love animals, and was thinking it might be nice to produce some pups to help others experience the same joy I have found with them, but I think it is unfair to criticize me if I decide to supplement my income doing this and be able to stay home with my son.

    • Posted By: joeschmoew @ 12/17/2007 2:46:09 AM

      It isn't just the filth, abuse, and neglect that so many are against. It's the fact that so many end up in shelters, then euthenised because there is no one to take them. If you go to your local shelter, take a look at all the animals there that would make great pets and companions. Most of the ones you see there will be put to sleep because so many people are buying pure bred dogs. And pure bred dogs are like you having a kid with your cousin. That is why som many breeds have medical issues common with their breed. Farm animals that are bred for the farm don't usually get put to sleep just because they exist. There is always a place for them--even though the factory farm industry of today makes sure many of them are living in horrendous environments.

      • Posted By: SallyLuv @ 12/17/2007 7:23:52 AM

        That is not true. People having a preference for a particular kind of dog does not put mixes to sleep. The careless owner, who had unplanned and unwanted litters, is responsible. Mixes can be rehomed extremely effectively - there is a wonderful book out, Redemption, written by Nathan Winograd, that talks about how shelters can rehome every adoptable animal.

        Insisting people buy mutts is like telling me I have to marry someone because they need a spouse. For personal decisions, personal preference does come into play - and it's essential for a good relationship.

    • Posted By: aquagrrl @ 12/17/2007 12:11:20 AM

      Cattle are generally kept in better conditions than puppy mill dogs. They are allowed to engage in normal social behavior much of the time and are allowed much more space. Feedlots aren't pleasant places, but most only spend a short while "finishing" there. Now veal, on the other hand . . . My point is that they don't really compare, and that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    • Posted By: RolandIS @ 12/16/2007 10:39:33 PM

      I tried to post my comments but they did not go through. Noone should attack you as you probably breed your dog once a year, keep your puppies in your bedroom, cook for them and spend time with them. Big kennel should be attacked because they keep their puppies in a barn and feed them cheap dog food. But big keenels do not want to sheer market with small breeders. It is all about money for them. I wonder why kennel clubs and media do not see that. Big kennels supposedly save the breed and small breeders are puppy mill! In reality you probably pay stud fees and big breeders breed father to daughter and create crippled animals. You are doing something really wonderful! Big kennels and American Kennel Club ruined many breeds by their selective breeding.

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