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  • Posted By: rsangi @ 12/15/2007 2:39:55 PM

    How can he talk of "spiritual values, human dignity, love and kindness," when he, his "Supreme Leader" Khamenei, and his government, systematically, brutally, and violently persecute, torture, and muzzle Baha'i Faith followers, Sufi mystics, Sunni and other sect members, human rights lawyers, student activists and bloggers, etc. etc. etc., and also threaten to wipe off the world map an entire nation and people, i.e. Israel?!

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:41:06 PM

      And if we stopped being their external devil, they would turn inward and eat their mullahs. They are sick of their nutjob leaders much the way we are ours.

  • Posted By: runswithscissors @ 12/15/2007 7:59:16 AM

    In the hysteria over Ahmadinejad's Holocaust comments
    it seems to have been forgotten that he really began
    making them in earnest at the time of the Muhammad
    cartoons brouhaha.

    People rioted in protest over the insults. In the "West"
    people were bemused over Muslim reaction.

    Ahmadinejad THEN thumbed his nose at the state civil
    religion of Israel - The Holocaust.

    I don't know of any riots over Ahmadinejad's defamation.
    I have seen, however, kilo-tons of sabre rattling propaganda
    for war against Iran and they almost invariably quote "quotes"
    attributed to Ahmadinejad relating to the Holocaust.

    "Muslims riot, Christians and Jews make war"

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 12/15/2007 8:05:33 PM

      muslims made war and still do for thousands of years..so playing like they have been peaceful people is ignorant.

      • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:39:07 PM

        Lets see, 600 AD to 2000 AD is "thousands of years." You must be an Army Intel type working in the propaganda office. Do you engage in revert wars on Wikipedia too?

  • Posted By: StrifeZeo @ 12/14/2007 9:20:10 PM

    Ahmadinejad, this American has a message for you:

    Your fooling with nuclear technology is like a child playing with a hand gun. You are haplessly messing with forces you do not understand. If you present a threat to the world, the United States of America will take you down. Your perversion of your religion may exude the cult of the martyr, that you love death more than we love life. But ask yourself, who wields greater power, those who fight and hope for death because they think they have nothing to lose, or those who have everything to live for and will fight tirelessly and steadfastly against the cult of death.

    Your side cannot possibly win. Challenge our power, underestimate our might and we will wipe you off the face of the planet. For 50 years, we were ready to do it if the Red Army so much set foot in Western Europe. What makes you think our resolve is any less against mere Iran, a third world, technologically immature country way out of its league.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:31:33 PM

      Yeah, with a couple thousand nukes to choose from against a nation that can't refine oil, we got them right where AIPAC wants us. Iran is no threat to the USA. We are a threat to Iran. Please feel free to go join the IDF.

  • Posted By: TominNC @ 12/14/2007 9:14:37 PM

    Ahmadinejad is an eloquent speaker/writer. His use of words such as benevolence, justice, fairness and the such roll easily off his tongue. But didn't he also say that the holocaust never happened and that Israel should be wiped off the earth? Isn't he the president of the country that still puts women in inferior status and commits homosexuals to death? He seems to hide his ambitions to dominate the Middle East (i.e. funding Hamas, sending support to killers in Iraq) by pointing the finger to Bush (...very trite since everyone is doing it and Bush bashing is now a popular sport). Word "Psychopath" comes to mind. Where is the counter to his commentary? Now, to put my comments into context, I believe our current administration has really screwed up in the Middle East, but not for one second do I believe that Ahmadinejad is the answer nor is helping to reach a solution.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:28:21 PM

      He is the result of our snub in 2003, followed by the Axis of evil Speech, and "Bring-it-on." They saw our nutcase, called us and raised. Now AIPAC wants us to raise the bet again.

  • Posted By: wingsntalons @ 12/14/2007 8:47:30 PM

    Ahmadinejad real statement should be his usual death to israel and america he puts out this lame propaganda and liberal fools eat it up, muslims are killing non muslims in 18 countries as we speak, their excuse its because of the jews will not work on anyone but the blind or the appeasers! We all now see the root cause of terrorism worldwide is ISLAM. The plague of terrorism is islam and islam is the plague! Islam is a terrorist religion that is the majority source of destruction and terrorism. It is time to insult Islam repeatedly (with the truth), to infuriate Muslims, and to destroy them when they appear willing to destroy us. Only thus can we hope to create a truly moderate Islam. Catering to these barbarian terrorists does nobody any good.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:26:23 PM

      When you run out of ideas, hurl insults... you must be a Republican Committeman.

  • Posted By: ginopi @ 12/14/2007 8:06:52 PM

    George Bush is closer to Hitler than any other leader has been since the end of WW2. Vote for Ron Paul (Republican) and end our endlessly blind support for Israel.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:24:12 PM

      Sorry, I can't trust Ron Paul either. Let him leave the Republican party for 8 years or more.

  • Posted By: alxcaphonh @ 12/14/2007 11:41:50 AM

    Well i hate to say this but he actually makes a very compelling argument, BUT if we left Iraq now without a stable government we would see the country devolve into a debilitating civil war. His comments on why his country is developing nuclear power is also bullshiet because he is sitting on oil reserves that could power his country easily for the next 100 years. Bringing up how much destruction that the US wrought upon the world with nuclear bombs makes it seem like he wants to protect himself with his own arsenal instead of the well intention of just developing it for energy.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:21:09 PM

      The Iran oil argument fails on several fronts, they can't refine it, they can't drill for it (Halliburton was doing it until they were caught trading with the enemy...) or build out plants to burn it. The Russians will run the fuel cycle, and if something gets loose, Ivan will get it taken care of.

  • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 12/14/2007 1:03:56 PM

    This is to the editors at Newsweek responsible for publishing such a tremendous load of crap from a man responsible for supplying Shiite militias with the ied's, weapons, and personnel that have killed and injured thousands of U.S. soldiers and many more Iraqi citizens. F@#K YOU! To Mr. Ahmadinejad I say this. I hope you find your peace at the firing end of an M16A4 rifle. There's a jet fuel fire waiting in hell for your sorry ass.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:15:56 PM

      Yes, it is terrible that Iran responded to being called Evil, and asked by Bush to "Bring it on..." We called them out. Cheney has been dying to find a way to justify taking their oil too. Well, Not dying, killing others like American GI's.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 12/15/2007 8:17:45 PM

      or at the end of a rope.

  • Posted By: pwilso24 @ 12/14/2007 1:45:58 PM

    This article is a silly puff piece and should give pause to Democrats. When President Ahmad is echoing arguments about "Absolute unilateral" and blaming America for unresolved question of Palestine - he of course ignores the multi-year diplomacy and coalition-building of three US Administrations on Palestine, North Korea, and heck Iraq itself.
    Pres. Ahmad might be more credible did he not have his own violent imperial ambitions across the Middle-East: support for Shia (Hizzbolah, Iraqis Shia) and Sunnis (Hamas) terrorists, his hatred of Jews and Israel, his still active bomb-fuel making and ballistic missle programs, his crushing of Iranian democracy and the student protests within Iran.
    Frankly though when did Newsweek start giving tyrants Op-Ed space ? Whos next ? Putin ? Chavez ? Kim Jong ? Yup all these guys can teach us alot about diplomacy, democracy and human rights. Pure silliness.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 1:12:56 PM

      I'd rather listen to other world leaders, even if they are flawed, in the full marketplace of ideas, than your blathering insults. Putin went tyrant about the time we started sticking missiles up his fanny, sent in NGO's to influence their elections etc. We have kept forces on the Korean border for over 50 years. Chavez won because of US imperialism. Venezuela was tired of popular poverty in an oil rich nation, where most of the profits went to American Oil interests. Now, please go back to goading another nation into fighting others wars. If they will print an Op Ed from Bush or Cheney, an opposing tyrants view is just an intellectual check.

  • Posted By: jimbob21 @ 12/14/2007 11:58:47 PM

    If the US and Iran are such bitter enemies, then why did they cooperate on arming, training, and importing mujahideen fighters to slaughter the Serbs in the 1990s?

    This whole article is bs. Santayana was right. History has not changed. Only idiots blame the Jews for the wolrd's ills. It's always been that way, and will always be that way.

    http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/deja.htm

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 12:38:44 PM

      Does this mean Israel is always right, or the person holding an opposing view is an idiot? Maybe it is a reaction to fighting their proxy wars?

  • Posted By: scinch40 @ 12/14/2007 9:12:52 PM

    wingsntalons.....your ignorance of world affairs exposes you as just another mouthpiece that parrots the obfuscations created to instill fear into your heart and hatred into your small mind.
    FACT: Iran gave up its nuclear weapons program in 2003...not because they were nice guys...but because a cost-benefit analysis showed that the expense outweighed the need.
    FACT: The Iranian government gave assistance to the United States in its invasion of Afghanistan. They were no fans of the Taliban either. As a matter of fact...it was the Iranian government that helped broker the deal with the Northern Alliance to secure the leadership of Hamid Kharzai.
    FACT: Most of the Iranian people love the people of the United States....they just don't like our policies. Go figure when the the CIA overthrew their government in 1953 and helped install a dictatorship that was brutal to their own people. Oh well, at least our government's interests were met...for a short while.
    FACT: Read Senator Riegal's report from the early 1990's...back when our government sold Iraq stockpiles of chemical weapons...of which Saddam Hussein could have never produced on his own. Hey...remember the USS Stark? You know the US Destroyer in the Persian Gulf struck by an Exocet missile in the mid 1980's killing 33 sailors. We just chalked that one up as another unfortunate loss.
    I could go on and on with real facts to educate you on what really happens and the nonsense you choose to believe because you probably lack the foresight to conduct your own analysis of world situations and instead let some chump give you the words to repeat like a mindless parrot...

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 12:26:37 PM

      He gets Jewish World Review in his inbox every morning, reads Ann Coulter, then comes here to impress us.

  • Posted By: TominNC @ 12/14/2007 9:13:21 PM

    Ahmadinejad is an eloquent speaker/writer. His use of words such as benevolence, justice, fairness and the such roll easily off his tongue. But didn't he also say that the holocaust never happened and that Israel should wiped off the earth? Isn't he the president of the country that still puts women in inferior status and commits homosexuals to death? He seems to hide his ambitions to dominate the Middle East (i.e. funding Hamas, sending support to killers in Iraq) by pointing the finger to Bush (...very trite since everyone is doing it and Bush bashing is now a popular sport). Word "Psychopath" comes to mind. Where is the counter to his commentary? Now, to my comments into context, I believe our current administration has really screwed up in the Middle East, but not for one second do I believe that Ahmadinejad is the answer nor is helping to reach a solution.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 12:24:51 PM

      Khameni offered peace. When we called them evil and in need of destruction, they fronted this guy. One boogeyman for another, Bush being ours.

  • Posted By: runswithscissors @ 12/16/2007 8:18:08 AM

    The 800-pound gorilla in the room is history's
    tenet that "before you can exterminate a people
    you must dehumanize them".

    All the talk about Ahmadinejad's perceived failings is
    clearly the windup to another war. An Israeli and pro-Israeli
    inspired war.

    A million deaths in Iraq from that war-of-choice is not
    enough for some people?

    Did Ahmadinejad start the Iraq war? Hmmm?
    The blood is still pouring in Iraq and some want another
    war!

    The talk about Ahmadinejad's failings is phony. The talk
    of blood-thirsty phoneys. He is bashed so that his
    country can be bashed with bombs.

    Well, don't the Israelis and pro-Israelis want another war?
    Yes or no? The answer is clear. It is the 800-pound gorilla
    in the room. The motivation is clear.

    Unrepentant about the Iraq war...
    HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!

    The Iraq war will be a footnote compared to the next one.

    In 2003 when the Iranians offered to recognize Israel, end
    their nuclear program, end support for Hamas...
    we should have had a ticker-tape parade.
    Instead these offers were hidden by our government from
    the people they work for (that is us, by the way) and so the
    offers were greeted with silence. Silence.

    The offers were greeted with silence until months later when
    Bush, at his 2004 State Of The Union Address, responded.
    He responded by calling Iran part of the Axis Of Evil.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 12/22/2007 12:20:21 PM

      Amen brother, Bush simply wanted what Saddam couldn't get in 1991, control of the world oil supply. The true Axis of evil are Cheney, Rice, Bush, Rumsfield, and the flag officers that allowed the misadventure to continue. They have committed War Crimes of ethnic cleansing in Iraq, War crimes against Geneva, and Command Responsibility. After they leave office, I hope they are put in the very cell block where Milosevic rotted away. Shinseki was right, we needed 500,000+ to pacify and rebuild. Instead they used mercenaries and murdered 700,000+ civilians. Petraeus took us out of the 4 superbases designed not to hold Iraq but to attack Iran, and put us into the street to exercize control over our Area of Responsibility.

  • Posted By: kenmcgee @ 12/20/2007 1:52:11 PM

    If Mr Ahmadinejad is not concerned with making a bomb then why doen't he defuse this whole mess by accepting the offer of several countries to build and monitor the reactor.He speaks of human rights..What a joke..Here is a man that needs to be dealt with before he does something that will make us all look back and say,why didn't we do something earlier. Ken McGee

  • Posted By: DCRMEC @ 12/20/2007 12:06:01 PM

    From a Newsweek article dated Nov 17 2005 "

    In a keynote speech on Wednesday [ Nov 16th 2005] to senior clerics, Ahmadinejad spoke of his strong belief in the second coming of Shi'ite Muslims' "hidden" 12th Imam.

    According to Shi'ite Muslim teaching, Abul-Qassem Mohammad, the 12th leader whom Shi'ites consider descended from the Prophet Mohammed, disappeared in 941 but will return at the end of time to lead an era of Islamic justice.
    "Our revolution's main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi," Ahmadinejad said in the speech to Friday Prayers leaders from across the country.

    My question; Is Ahmadinejad trying to bring about "the end of time"?

  • Posted By: DCRMEC @ 12/20/2007 11:53:46 AM

    From a Newsweek article dated Nov 17 2005 "

    In a keynote speech on Wednesday [ Nov 16th 2005] to senior clerics, Ahmadinejad spoke of his strong belief in the second coming of Shi'ite Muslims' "hidden" 12th Imam.

    According to Shi'ite Muslim teaching, Abul-Qassem Mohammad, the 12th leader whom Shi'ites consider descended from the Prophet Mohammed, disappeared in 941 but will return at the end of time to lead an era of Islamic justice.
    "Our revolution's main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi," Ahmadinejad said in the speech to Friday Prayers leaders from across the country.

    My question; Is Ahmadinejad trying to bring about "the end of time"?

  • Posted By: spuddude @ 12/17/2007 6:21:27 PM

    What do you think the odds are of any print or electronic media outlet in the Middle East releasing such a piece written by President Bush? Do you think they would or could run it without commentary and allow it to stand on its own for the people to consider?

    • Posted By: Zeeshaan @ 12/19/2007 12:49:53 PM

      Such a piece written by President Bush would not appear in print or electronic media of any origin simply because President Bush lacks the intellectual capability to write such an article.

    • Posted By: Zeeshaan @ 12/19/2007 12:45:06 PM

      Such a piece written by President Bush would not be published in print and electronic media of any origin simply because President Bush lacks the intellectual capability to write such an article.

  • Posted By: mbailiff @ 12/14/2007 12:50:05 PM

    "The people of Iraq, despite their religious and ethnic differences, have lived together and next to Iranians peacefully for centuries."

    I was taking this article seriously until I read the above sentence. There has been war and strife between the deifferent religous factions in the Middle East since the dawn of time. Anyone who claims that Iraq and Iran have been living peacfully together side by side until the current war are just plain lying!

    • Posted By: alrome @ 12/18/2007 5:09:50 PM

      As a Muslim who studies history, other then the war we waged with Iran through Iraq, these two nations have never fought each other, heck since the two nations were created by us, by breaking up the Islamic Empire, their leaderships have simply been manipulated by us. Sectarian fighting between the two never happened because even Iraq itself is mostly Shia... Anyhow, take heed in the the first verse of the Quran: "read!"

      • Posted By: Shankardada2 @ 12/18/2007 10:06:14 PM

        If you were a Muslim who knew anything about human history you would know that Mesopotamian (Iraqi) kingdoms from the dawn of human history have ALWAYS feared their neighbors in the mountains to the north (Iran). Throughout history Persian kingdoms have preyed upon the fertile Mesopotamia.

    • Posted By: alrome @ 12/18/2007 5:04:46 PM

      As a Muslim who studies history, other then the war we waged with Iran through Iraq, these two nations have never fought each other, heck since the two nations were created by us, by breaking up the Islamic Empire, their leaderships have simply been manipulated by us. Take heed in the the first verse of the Quran: "read!"

  • Posted By: Neshamah101 @ 12/18/2007 4:41:02 PM

    From Reform Judaism magazine in the aftermath of the 1994 Ed Gillespie "Contract with America" Repubican Revolution by, God bless his departed and possibly returned Soul, Professor Arthur Hertzberg:

    "Feudal kings and princes, and the rich bourgeois of medieval and early modern free cities took turns in deflecting the angers of the poor on the Jews. Late in the nineteenth century, the tsarist regime in Russia bought time and delayed revolution by offering up the Jews to the angry muzhiks as the objects of pogroms. The rich in Germany in the 1920's and 1930's were pleased that the motives in National Socialism, which reflected the anger of the poor at their misery during the inflation of the 1920's, were directed not at them but at the Jews. Many plutocrats in Germany indulged and helped finance the Nazis. And in America, the most virulent anti-Semitism occurred in the 1930's during the Great Depression. It has waned in the last half century, as more inclusive America has woven a safety net for the poor.

    We are now living a moment in American history when high-tech jobs are more available, but less secure, a time when opportunity for blue collar workers is shrinking irreversibly. Not so very subtly, right-wing idealogues are already deflecting these angers at scapegoats - the blacks and the poor - suggesting that the chronic unemployed, recent immigrants, and welfare mothers are destroying the moral fabric of society and, because of their supposed innate intellectual inferiority, are undermining our nation's economic future.
    If the social safety net that was constructed in the last half century is removed, a violent reaction will follow and cities will become even less safe than they are today. It will no longer be enough to blame the liberals; Jews will become the prime scapegoat. "

    History shows us what is possible, Mr. "war President?"

    Shabbat Shemot this week.


  • Posted By: Neshamah101 @ 12/18/2007 4:05:14 PM

    Off the back cover of Mark Aarons' and John Loftus' book, "The Secret War Against the Jews," this is stated:

    "The shocking story of Israel's betrayal by the Western Powers; The authors demonstrate that numerous Western countries, especially the United States and Great Britain, have conducted repeated and willful spying missions on Palestine and later Israel over many decades. While on the surface these two countries and others profess to be ardent allies of Israel, they work, in fact, through their intelligence services to betray Israel's secrets to the Arabs. Their motive: oil and multinational profits, which must be attained at any price through international covert policies."

    Oil and multinational profits, whichmust be attained at any price?

    The now global "war on terror" is such a covert policy, an Illuminati, not an Israeli, covert policy.

    Who was appointed to be the Mideast envoy?

    Tony Blair of Great Britain?

    And now in January (8th to 16th) this "war president" is going on a tour in the Middle East, including Israel?

    Baruch Hashem

    And, what are the Israeli leaders doing? What are the Jewish leaders doing?

    Receiving this Skull and Bones legalized pirate of now as they've received, Kabbalah, all previous (U.S. and other foreign) leaders?

    "Wittingly or unwittingly, the Jewish Councils were tools of the Nazis..."

    Baruch Hashem

    "The Secret War Against the Jews" is not so secret anymore, is it?

    Shabbat Shemot this week.

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