Suburban Swingers

Whatever happened to honesty is the best policy. These people are not cheating on one another. It might not be the way that I do things. It might not be the way that you do things, but who is to say that it is the wrong way. If it works for them and, they are hurting anyone, leave then alone and mind your own business.

The sad part of all this is that it is socially acceptable to lie to your mate and have affairs outside of marriage - but people are repulsed by honest and open relationships, and - for some reason - feel like they can judge what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. Mind your own business and quit sitting on your porches with binoculars - worrying about what your neighbor smight be doing.

This reminds me of an article about a stripper from the 1950's in which it stated that she had felt that stripping and being religious were pretty much the same thing. Stripping had given her a sense of worth from the adulation from men that was shown her when she was on stage, a sense of being loved and cherished. Feeling like you are loved, valued, cherished, special, are spirtual feelings that a lot of people get when they go to church or to a revival. The point is, like a baby licking lead painted walls to get the nutrition it lacks, a lot of people do things that aren't really healthy in order to try to get the things they find lacking in their own lives. Do I think stripping or swinging leads to long-term happiness? Well, no. It's wanting the right things by going for them in a wrong kind of way.

I just wonder what Merit Badges the Scouts across the street will be going for. Sincerely this would not be such an issue if someone minded their own business instead of sticking it into someone elses. The best way to deal with the CHERRY PIT would have been to ignore it in the first place. On the other hand just maybe, they secretly wish that they were a weekend guest at the CHERRY PIT or at least wondered what it would be like. I am 60+ years old and see nothing wrong with pitching in for food, refrishments, etc. and meeting other people. No you don't have to go to bed with someone in order to enjoy their company. What the local government is doing there borders on harassment!

exactly what civilizations collapsed due to sex??? power yes, sex never. And don't bring up Sodom and Gomorrah because that alludes to a deity becoming involved. And the fact that they have never been found to study, and fact is the only major source of the info is from the bible, but this is another discussion.

You know what the major difference between humans and animals is? Imagination we can literayl create scenarios is our mind animals lack this cognitive ability. That is about the only real difference between us and other animals, in fact if not for that cognitive ability we would be extinct, we are very weak and frail as a species. lets discuss some of the super powers of the ancient world that collapsed.

first of we have Alexander the great ( Greek July 20, 356 BC ??? June 10, 323 BC ) a great general and leader who united large areas of the known world. His empire collapsed as his sons fought over the empire after his death. (power destroyed this empire not sex. )

Roman empire this lasted a whole 12 centuries, (that's a pretty long time)" The Roman empire went into decline in the 5th century AD. Plagued by internal instability and attacked by various migrating peoples from beyond its borders, the western part of the empire, including Hispania, Gaul, and Italy, broke up into independent kingdoms in the 5th century" * Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome *

"tell that to the trillions of animals in nature i doubt any of them have a ceremony" I wholeheartedly agree with you. I don't think that you have your "animals in nature" go to work and earn you money, so why do we? There is a difference between humans and animals in nature and you know that. You don't even need to have religion tell you.
Understanding the downfall of ancient civilizations as they disguise their lustful desires for power or sex allows individuals to see the effects of the belief of "I can do whatever I want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else." Our actions (even in private) affect who we are and our contribution to society. Just because you don't see the germs inside or outside someone's body doesn't mean that you will not be infected by them. Similarly, we are affected by the good acts that people accomplish. Just because no one notices your kind deeds or attributes does not mean that they do not have an effect on society.
This kind of activity promotes degeneration of the family and society as a whole. Our nation is only as strong as our families. As we see the breakup of the family, so will we see the breakup of our nation.

I do not think I could ever live a "swinging" lifestyle. However, when something goes on behind closed doors, causes no outsiders any physical or financial harm, and has not broken any laws, why is that the business of the neighbors or local government? It appears to me that it is a case of discrimination. Laws were created to specifically target one group of people. If this were an ATV club or a quilting club and a donation were requested to offset the cost of running the meetings and supporting the meeting location overhead, the point would be moot. The glorious thing about this country is the freedom it promises it's citizens. The freedom to change the channel if you don't like the shows offered, to not read a book if you don't agree with it's subject matter, to approach God openly, the freedom to NOT live a lifestyle you don't agree with...The one freedom I feel to be most abused in this country is the right to express your outrage by trying to force people to conform to narrow-minded ideas of what is right and wrong. What is private should never be exposed and manipulated to give close-minded busybodies any room to force small-mindedness on the rest of the world. Don't want to swing, fine...don't. Leave those who do alone.

" It degrades the family and cheapens love. Lust is not love"

Actually love cheapens its self, love is a chemical soup that is released in your brain to make you want to mate.
Are you a American? If so then you should not care so much this is a free country why do people worry what other people do in their own homes? I will never know why people force their believes on others or even see it as right to make some on who is happy with something different change. Are those swingers hurting any one? Are they trying to get you in bed? Its moronic to try to use the legal system in such a fashion our system was set up to prevent this abuse and now it only seams that's the only way we want to use it.
"Sexual relations are between husband and wife. Period." REALLY? tell that to the trillions of animals in nature i doubt any of them have a ceremony before doing the nasty, in fact humans are one of only 2 animals that have sex for pleasure, human females are the only animal with a organ specifically to make sex feel good (the clitoris) why is that? Does religion make your values? I am sure it drives them. That's fine don't participate that's your right, don't impede on others using the right that gives you a voice.

Bloggers joked that Baptists were trying to shut the swinger parties down because they might lead to dancing. Oh mercy, let's haul them satanic thugs in!!!!

Bloggers joked that Baptists were trying to shut the swinger parties down because they might lead to dancing, Oh mercy, let's haul them satanic thugs in!!!!

I realy think it's great!!!! As long you and your partner are enjoying togeather than that's all that matters... Just have fun, and ejnoy life....

I thinks its great.This entire town here in central Fl. loves to swing..marriages and relationships are lasting longer and everybody is happy.God Bless them ..keep doing it.

I think its great!!.Everyone should have lots of sex.This entire town in central Fl. are swingers and everyone is happy.

I think Jack Martin needs to get laid! Everybody has sex...is the way of life, its natural, and fun! Im not into the whole swinging thing, but im into some other things. We all have our fantasies and desires. People should just worry about there own issues instead of getting involved in other people's lives.

I think that you should let the people do what they want. I mean, it's what they like. Would you want someone telling you that you can't walk your dog because it's not "in the religion" or because it's morally not correct? These people are doing what makes them happy, and if it makes them happy I think you should just leave them alone. It's not your life, it's theirs. So I think that all the people that are pointing fingers and saying it's wrong need to stick to their busness and quit being brown-nosers. It's not for you to say it's right or not, and like I said it's not your life, and it's not harming or illegal. You're not being hurt by their actions, so quit complaining.

Figures that one of the guys thats against this lifestyle is almost 80! Back than you didnt even sleep in the same bed, speak to your children about sex or anything. It was so tabu and such a huge stigma and guilt went along with just the word "sex". How does someone logically compare consenting educated adults to a pedophile??? Its not about cheating, it is about strengthening your relationship and trying new things and meeting new people. Its ALL about honesty. This type of lifestyle IS NOT for anyone who doesnt fully trust their partner. It may not be for some people, but for people that are willing participants, there is nothing wrong with it. What happens behind close doors stays that way. As long as everyone is being respectful of their partners, other participants and the neighbors etc... than I dont see what the problem is.

I find all of this amusing as a "swinger". First of all, I don't agree with collecting money and operating as a business without a license. Where I live they allow swing clubs, operators can obtain a license, and they pay taxes.
What is the difference between a swing club and a hotel? Surf a bit of porn on the internet, and you will see that 95% of the shoot locations are hotel suites. Should we shut the hotels down for promoting sex? Maybe they need to put cameras in the rooms to stop people from having sex at all? Rent the movie "1984".

To the nurse commenting on aids and STD???s. What is the difference if you get a STD from another swinger, or if your man / woman (whatever lifestyle you choose) cheats and brings one of the ???gifts that keeps on giving??? back to you? I can tell you that the people I know are far more concerned about their sexual health and protecting those they share time with than most people that have one night stands at a bar. How many people do you know who are promiscuous get tested at least every 3-6 months just to make sure?

When it comes to deciding what is more dangerous to society, we need to choose our battles a little more wisely. Decide if a swing club is more dangerous than gary_s_paxton?

??? Posted By: gary_s_paxton @ 12/15/2007 5:43:04 PM
Comment: They should have their heads examined before and after they are shot.
Note: You can???t help but wonder what bell tower, school, or mall this guy will end up shooting from. The problem in the US is not swingers, it is people like this.