Tracking a Paper Trail

Get serious! Thes "tapes" have hundreds of hours of torture and CIA "interrogations"; do you think there are not pages of transcriptions of what was said? Do you think the spook handlers are going to watch hundreds of hours of "tape", most of which is presumably useless? All the "tapes" will reveal is the hours of essentially torture and probably the obviousiness of the "prisoners" willingness to say anything to make their tormenters stop!

who use tapes anymore? this stry is bogus from the start. Everything is on disc,memory card or digital storage.

Another thing who uses tapes anymore, most recording devices use some type of dish memory card or digital recording process's. This whole stinking torture tape ffap is just some diversion from the real truth and it working real well cuz the truth is probably far worse.

What bugs me is that the gov duplictes everything and the spook squads are no different. Somewhere in spookville their are copies of those tapes and it will take some doing to get them. What really rankles though is that we will never know if their were really anything of value in those tapes other than agents doing something they should not of been doing under any circumstances and trust me is not good from this bunch in the wh.

Where the CIA is concerned, what one has to do is go back into the Agency's documented history in order to understand what it does, and for whom it really works (the internatinal corporations who tell any US government what to do in order to get their political donations for future elections). In early 1963, there was a turning-point in terms of whether President Kennedy, or Fidel Castro, should be "eliminated" (assassinated). As President Kennedy continued shutting down anti-Castro Cuban/CIA-run terrorist training ccamps in New Orleans, and Miami, Florida, using FBI Informant, Lee Harvey Oswald's visits to the camps in order to locate the secret camps, when CIA "Operation 40" and Operation Mongoose people, like Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, E. Howard Hunt, David Sanchez Morales, Ted Shackley and George H. W. Bush disocered Oswald was not just a gunrunner to the training camps, but informing the FBI of the camp locations, the CIA decided Oswald and Kennedy were easier targets than Castro.

Kennedy had ordered the pullout from Vietnam, left Castro in power in Cuba (while JFK's brother, Bobby secretly planned the assassination of Castro to rob the GOP of a political prop for the 1964 election, the CIA, backed by their close relationship with organized crime in Chicago, and turned their combined anger and guns on Kennedy, rather than Fidel Castro. Oswald's role as an FBI snitch had been discovered. He was a ready-made patsy. The CIA had made tape recordings of someone who, on tape claimed to be Lee Oswald.

After the JFK assassination, when FBI agents listened to the tapes, and, knowing Oswald as they did, said that the voice on the tape was NOT that of Lee Harvey Oswald, the CIA DESTROYED the tape when Warren Commission investigators asked the CIA for them. The CIA said it was a "regular tape-space saving practice.
Today, with all the new and very recent evidence to be found at www.jfkmurdersolved.com, with the actual picket fence shooter, James E. Files a 65 year old federal prisoner at Stateville Prison, Joliet, Illinois, there is no further need of any acceptance of the Government's lies about it's relationship with orgnized crime. That relationship has been there a very long time.

The old man is still running things. Go to actor, Bruce Willis' June, 2007 statements about who is "still alive and in power today." He said those same people killed President Kennedy. He is a Republican, and very proud of it. But, he also beleives in telling the truth. It still matters.

We need to remember two very important things:

1. Ever sinc e the CIA, with Porter Goss as a member of the CIA's very own "Operation 40," the Nixon-George H. W. Bush-E. Howard Hunt-Frank Fiorini Sturgis-created Kill Castro Assassination Squad, when the CIA, immediately after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, when it destroyed the "Mexico City audio tape recordings supposedly of Lee Harvey Oswald' after the FBI agents listened to it and said the VOICE WAS NOT THAT OF LEE OSWALD TRYING FOR A VISA TO GO TO CUBA, THEN RUSSIA," the CIA has continued destroying recordings of anythug that might obviate it's own criminal involvement in violence abroad, and inside the United States! The Kennedy assassination is just one s uch major incidence.

After the CIA lied to Kennedy about the chances that the Bay of Pigs invasion could succeed, and JFK boutht into their story only to face humiliation after the CIA's Brigade 2506 was destroyed or imprisoned by Castro, and Ken nedy fired the top three CIA leaders, these "leaders" then went on to cooperate with Nelson Rockefeller, George H. W. Bush, and his Texas bysiness partner, Robert Mosbacher, Governor John Connolly of Texas, and "the Queen Mary" (FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, and went through their Chicago mafia connections and sent Charles Nicoletti, James E. Files to Dallas, where they were joined by Lucien Sartie, in Dealey Plaza, and shot and killled Senator Ted Kennedy'[s brother, Pres. John Kennedy,

Go to website: www.jfkmurdersolved.com for more. Also, search engine: "the Pegasus tape recording of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI office phone line." It's all there.

2. That in a country where the truth has been politcized as much as in this one, ONLY the historical TRUTH can help Americans vote to turn away from the madness that took over in December, 2000's election.

where is my commit

The irony of it all is this we all want and need to feel safe in this Country from another 9/11, so its more of a catch 22 that just what if we did,nt do the things that ned to be done at the times of peril and the worst happens again then what are you going to say. I believe in this Country an in the means of wich to save it from those who wish to harm us

God has to be the biggest braintease in the universe. Individuals, Tin Gods"define their morality
by their situation, training and experience like the light in the "Theroy of Realitivity" Morality is bent
to the social situation. Example: the "groupthink and interaction of drivers on the freeway when the
situation seems safe most will drive 75 or 80 when the speed limit is posted at 65 MPH. Phillip
Zimbardo's "The Lucifer Effect. How Good People Turn Evil. Awsome book It even changed the way I
dream about events.

The crucible effect is alive and well in all groups. The uniqueness of groups and make these
enitties to that they only have the answer and the access to superior judgment. One sees
this type of group behavior when the speed limit is posted at 65 and most drivers are going
85. Philip Zimbardo explains it perfectly in the "The Lucifer Effect" Understanding how going
people turn evil. Awsome book

:America"can be descrbed as rotten to the core, and fits the description of EVIL. I am happy to see the end of such a short :EMPIRE"

do you think valerie plame is stupid enought to tesify under oath in front of a federal court and the senate judiciary committee and lie about it?????

Yes.

--The officials said that Rodriguez and his close aides had been asking top agency managers for more than two years about what to do with the tapes, but felt they never got a straight answer.--

NYT's reported Rodriguez didn't care if CIA's own lawyers gave permission. He said he didn't need permission.

Our Wounded Need Your Help

While Americans debate the War in Iraq ??? many times more bitterly than intellectually ??? we have forgotten our wounded men and women who are recovering at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and other military hospitals around the Country.
Every week plane loads of seriously wounded military arrive in the United States for medical treatment and recovery ??? often staying over a year in a hospital. They arrive with few, if any, of their personal possessions. Many are amputees who make the hospital their home-away-from-home while learning to move forward with their lives with the aid of outstanding medical, physical therapy and occupational therapy staffs.
In 2003, the Angels of Mercy Program was founded to help these wounded men and women and their families. In 2004, Newman???s-Own named the Angels the best volunteer program in American supporting our military. The Program provides clothing suitable for rehabilitation, comfort items, and a broad range of support for young family members who have uprooted their lives to be with their loved ones at the hospital. We need help to keep this non-political, all volunteer program going. Our total effort is on helping those who have given so much, and letting them know their Country cares about their sacrifices.
The web site www.SupportOurWounded.org contains many background details, and suggests ways Americans can help. The Angels of Mercy Program can also be reached by phone: 703-938-8930. Our wounded need your help.

Jay Edwards

Our Wounded Need Your Help

While Americans debate the War in Iraq ??? many times more bitterly than intellectually ??? we have forgotten our wounded men and women who are recovering at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and other military hospitals around the Country.
Every week plane loads of seriously wounded military arrive in the United States for medical treatment and recovery ??? often staying over a year in a hospital. They arrive with few, if any, of their personal possessions. Many are amputees who make the hospital their home-away-from-home while learning to move forward with their lives with the aid of outstanding medical, physical therapy and occupational therapy staffs.
In 2003, the Angels of Mercy Program was founded to help these wounded men and women and their families. In 2004, Newman???s-Own named the Angels the best volunteer program in American supporting our military. The Program provides clothing suitable for rehabilitation, comfort items, and a broad range of support for young family members who have uprooted their lives to be with their loved ones at the hospital. We need help to keep this non-political, all volunteer program going. Our total effort is on helping those who have given so much, and letting them know their Country cares about their sacrifices.
The web site www.SupportOurWounded.org contains many background details, and suggests ways Americans can help. The Angels of Mercy Program can also be reached by phone: 703-938-8930. Our wounded need your help.

Jay Edwards

States exist to preserve and further their interests. In that regard, the U.S. is a state, and will further its interest, even if the public is unable to understand the steps that must be taken to do so. Academics are theorists whose opinions are formulated with the luxury of little or zero political or other pressure, and the public is often utopian and must vote others to represent them in matters of importance. There is no reason for it to be run any other way; indeed, to do so, it would be unimaginably dangerous.

What Bushit! It's time the government owns up to what it has done. No matter what possible wrong doing is being looked into, the Bush White House claims state secrets and demands the people back off. Since when did our government become one like Iran's? One of total control over the media and the people?

Iran and other dictator run countries may lock up anyone on any trumped up charge. Bush does the same thing. Speak out against Bush and you are declared unpatriotic. Want to silence someone? Claim enemy combatant. Want to keep the people confused as to what is going on? Claim state secrets. Warren the media they will be arrested if they disclose anything Bush wants held secret.

Enough is enough. Let the people learn just what is or was going on. If no laws were broken, so be it. But if they were, punish those that broke the law.

Lies about weapons of mass destruction, Lies about Iraq's part in the 9/11 attacks, Lies about Iraq's threat to American security, C I A operatives names leaked as political payback, American jobs offshored in recored numbers, The largest national debt in all of human history, Shady backroom business deals with Halliburton and the oil companies.....and now we have a tape scandal, WHAT A SUPRISE!! American voters knew all this in 2004 and STILL voted George W Bush into office?!? Thank GOD my duel citizenship papers with Canada have come through. As the Guess Who said: "I don't need your war machine! I don't need your ghetto scene!" America...Good Night and Good Luck!

Today, in America, George W. Bush or any of his henchmen can simply point their finger at you, declare you an enemy combatant, and have you incarcerated indefinitely in a secret prison without charge or representation, where they have institutionalized torture and murder.

And for those Americans who think they are exempt, and don't care about foreign citizens or their rights as human beings, think again.

You may have heard the term "Habeas Corpus" tossed around a lot lately, and heard that we have lost the right to it, but do you know what that means?

It means that you no longer have the right to be brought before an impartial judge to protest your imprisonment, or provide evidence that the charges against you are false.

For example, when Bush secretly imprisons an American citizen he doesn't like he can simply say that they are an Afghani national caught on the battlefield of Iraq, even if they were actually a loyal citizen living in Boston who was illegally abducted at the mall while shopping.

And since you no longer have the right to Habeas Corpus you will never have a chance of the truth being told, and will be at the mercy of Bush's psychopathic brethren for what remains of your lives.

Welcome to fascist America.
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