The Savvy, Salty Political Saint

All three web pages on FDR's women I consider a great work , which was the comment I made after hurriedly reading the first page. There is no doubt the author is also a great writer. FDR and ER are both
great leaders who are also smart and intelligent to the extent that they gave the state the quality of leasership
needed at that point in history whitout allowing their private life obtrude unnecessarily in the state functions
they owed American citizens. May be when the authors can give a fuller story on the role Lucy played in the
lives of FDR and ER, we mayl find , that Lucy also played a great complimentery role in their greatness.
There is always a place in history for women leaders to make thire mark in our male dominated states
leadership. Hillary should not give up her quest even if she is not elected president at this time.

Soti.

All three web pages on FDR's women I consider a great work , which was the comment I made after hurriedly reading the first page. There is no doubt the author is also a great writer. FDR and ER are both
great leaders who are also smart and intelligent to the extent that they gave the state the quality of leasership
needed at that point in history whitout allowing their private life obtrude unnecessarily in the state functions
they owed American citizens. May be when the authors can give a fuller story on the role Lucy played in the
lives of FDR and ER, we mayl find , that Lucy also played a great complimentery role in their greatness.
There is always a place in history for women leaders to make thire mark in our male dominated states
leadership. Hillary should not give up her quest even if she is not elected president at this time.

Soti.

All three web pages on FDR's women I consider a great work , which was the comment I made after hurriedly reading the first page. There is no doubt the author is also a great writer. FDR and ER are both
great leaders who are also smart and intelligent to the extent that they gave the state the quality of leasership
needed at that point in history whitout allowing their private life obtrude unnecessarily in the state functions
they owed American citizens. May be when the authors can give a fuller story on the role Lucy played in the
lives of FDR and ER, we mayl find , that Lucy also played a great complimentery role in their greatness.
There is always a place in history for women leaders to make thire mark in our male dominated states
leadership. Hillary should not give up her quest even if she is not elected president at this time.

Soti.

when will we see an expose about Woodrow Wilson's second wife-and his illness in his second term- during which we entered WW! (a mistake as 20-20 hindsight has shown) and the power she wielded even before women got the right to vote in 1920-and look who they picked- Old Warren G. Hardon-because he "looked like a President should" was the word on that-all men are governed by their zippers as much as their brains (if they have any) and a rare few-by their heart as well- Hell even Patton had several affairs-one with a niece (as possibly did Hitler before he met Eva-0h life is strange indeed-

E.R. was a godly, woman? A saint? No, Mr. and ms. gullible, she was a lesbian. Hillary is a lesbian. What does smart have to do with anything. All I hear anymore is how smart these infidels are, and how superior the liberal mind is to the stupid right wing nut case. Well, someday God will tell us which is which as the sinner is cast into outer darkness for eternity. There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of buck teeth.

I feel sad that the author feels they must compare Eleanor to Hillary ..... two distinctly different women who survived their husband's dailiance .... but they should not be compared in their importance to the history of females in our world - or even "political females". Perhaps we can revisit this issue in 50 years - then compare them to see how each fulfilled their life's roles --- Eleanor then and Hillary now is discussing apples and oranges!

To Newsphile,
I must take issue with your denying that Hillary has integrity. She is savvy, and she is suited for our times. Please realize that the press of Eleanor's time was quite willing to turn a blind eye to his escapades, and the press of Hillary's time is ready and waiting to create rifts, issues and controversy to keep filling 24/7 news appetites. While she may have misspoken or embellished landing under fire, the point is that SHE WAS THERE. She was not baking cookies, hosting children's book parties, but being out there. Please compare her to a modern first lady. Barbara? She was lucky that the press did not disclose her husband's philandering. Laura? Please. Where was she when he was choking on a pretzel? Oh, yes, she was in Africa, pursuing children's literacy rights.

Hillary is nothing like Eleanor. Eleanor said a woman candidate should have integrity. That lets Hillary out. She even lies about landing under fire, and call it mispeak. I believe those with integrity call it lie. We have not forgotten the shameful Clinton years in the White House nor their shameful exit. She is using Eleanor for her own purposes. This is also shameful.

I think there is a very important lesson in what "drhudy" says regarding both E.R. and H.R.C.
Please read it.
E.R.arrived as an afternoon guest at the house across the street from where I lived at in college at S.U. I and all my housemates went out to meet her as she exited from the car. She
was one of the two most gracious women I have ever had the pleasure to meet. (The
other was the daughter-in-law of President Einaudi of Italy.) We saw and greeted her for
possibly five minuites, but at the end of that time, we all felt that she had spoken to each one of us on our own level for whatever time it took. It was one of her great charms, that she could make the person she was speaking with feel totally important!. I was not of the same
political party, but I certainly would have voted for her if she had run for anything! Everyone
speaks of her as being "buck-toothed and unattractive", but when you met her - she was one of the most beautiful persons I've ever had the pleasure to meet!
Thank you, Eleanor, for adding to my life! posted by Connie @ 5/01/2008 3:50 pm Mt.Time
that she had spoken to each of us, and that we were all very important to her.

I'm sure E.R. would be thrilled to see how far women have come from their status of "well protected flowers." That a 44 year old woman is characterized as a "cougar" for a relationship with a man 12 years her junior is sad. At what age does a woman become a "cougar" anyway, or does ANY woman dating a younger man fit the description? Sadly, no one would ever characterize FDR as the first high profile "Humbert" for his relationships with younger women...Men have been doing that thruout history, and no one bats an eye.

I'm sure E.R. would be thrilled to see how far women have come from their status of "well protected flowers." That a 44 year old woman is characterized as a "cougar" for a relationship with a man 12 years her junior is sad. At what age does a woman become a "cougar" anyway, or does ANY woman dating a younger man fit the description? Sadly, no one would ever characterize FDR as the first high profile "Humbert" for his relationships with younger women...Men have been doing that thruout history, and no one bats an eye.

I'm sure E.R. would be thrilled to see how far women have come from their status of "well protected flowers." That a 44 year old woman is characterized as a "cougar" for a relationship with a man 12 years her junior is sad. At what age does a woman become a "cougar" anyway, or does ANY woman dating a younger man fit the description? Sadly, no one would ever characterize FDR as the first high profile "Humbert" for his relationships with younger women...Men have been doing that thruout history, and no one bats an eye.

Although Mrs. Roosevelt and Hillary Clinton are both determined and strong women, the big difference is that Mrs. Roosevelt was an honest individual interested in others whereas Hillary Clinton is dishonest and more interested in herself.

I'm sure E.R. would be thrilled to see how far women have come from their status of "well protected flowers." That a 44 year old woman is characterized as a "cougar" for a relationship with a man 12 years her junior is sad. At what age does a woman become a "cougar" anyway, or does ANY woman dating a younger man fit the description? Sadly, no one would ever characterize FDR as the first high profile "Humbert" for his relationships with younger women...Men have been doing that thruout history, and no one bats an eye.

I'm sure E.R. would be thrilled to see how far women have come from their status of "well protected flowers." That a 44 year old woman is characterized as a "cougar" for a relationship with a man 12 years her junior is sad. At what age does a woman become a "cougar" anyway, or does ANY woman dating a younger man fit the description? Sadly, no one would ever characterize FDR as the first high profile "Humbert" for his relationships with younger women...Men have been doing that thruout history, and no one bats an eye.

Mrs. Roosevelt was an intelligent, strong, courageous and forceful woman who accomplished great things with great difficulty. She was a woman ahead of her time, caught in a marriage to a very strong and intelligent man with physical disabilities and a wandering eye, quite acceptable in his time and social standing. Franklin and Eleanor were distant cousins who knew each other all of their lives. The similarities between Eleanor and Hillary are numerous but the most important one is their shared committment to do something extraordinary. Mrs. Roosevelt persevered throughout her life and her accomplishments were great. Many women of the time admired and followed her though their own lives did not allow them to ever imagine the freedom to travel and work in the UN etc. as Mrs. Roosevelt did. Her determination, financial background, upbringing and intelligence allowed her the freedom only envied by her contemporaries of the time. Mrs. Roosevelt would have enjoyed watching the determination of Mrs. Clinton to also persevere through a maze of less capable men. Eleanor would have made a great first woman President and most assuredly would have cheered on Hillary!

Mrs. Roosevelt was an intelligent woman, ahead of her time. She was able to accomplish extraordinary things because of her strength, courage, intelligence and determination. I am looking forward to reading her papers. Barb D.

It's said that Eleanor once met her husband on boomermingle.com, Someone has seen her profile on that site, is that true?