For the Love of Christ

I agree with Doyajob on this point; One should never be forced into believing something. One should reach a conclusion based on one's own study and research into the subject. All aspects should be presented or at least made available. Must be why our children are only given "science" in our schools. And, Doyajob? Everyone has an opinion and has the right to it. Just because one doesn't "agree" does not give one the right to belittle or denigrate the other's opinion. This article is about one man's approach to a problem. Period. If there was any other motivation for the writer, any objectivity is off the map. You can interpret it however you please; that is your right in this country. You might want to rethink your "generalities," though.

I agree with Doyajob on one point: One should never be forced into believing something. One should be able to research or be presented with all points before having to make a decision. One should also be able to voice one's opinion without fear of humiliation or denigration. I suppose that is why only "science" is taught in our schools... so our children can get the "whole picture." And Doyajob? Other opinions are just as valid as yours. Belittling them only makes a statement about you.

ok, heather, I just realized that both of us are getting confused as to who wrote what based on the setup of this email forum, no big deal..............the points I made stand regardless.........have a good day.

I agree with everything you said heather in your last email, sorry for any harshness towards your other email.

My basic point is that Christ was mostly angry with the "teachers of the law" and he called them foxes, whitewashed tombs, hypocrites, he tore the temple apart complete with whips........that''s what Christs sentiment was towards those who presume to teach in His name and toltally misrepresent Him. Also the Apostle Paul, time after time, warned Christians about false teachers, that we should not tolerate them.

To sum it up, Christians need to take exception to people coming in and teaching children/young people mutations of Christianity. They should be exposed whenever and wherever they are found. Trouble is, we Christians have bought into the worlds policies of politically correctness, tolerance at the cost of truth.

Christians in other countries are paying the price of discipleship with their lives; it's coming to America so we who name the name of Christ need to "count the cost" and make sure that we are indeed "in the faith"

Lastly, the Roman Catholic heritage (ever read "Foxes book of Martyrs" - you will be surprised to find out who the persecutor of true Christians through history actually were) which justin comes from is renowned for mutating the Gospel of grace thru faith into one of works; thought it's somewhat subtle. Their "official" doctrine changes every decade but basically the Roman Catholic Church still believes it has the keys to the kingdom and that you need to go thru their means of grace i.e. sacraments to secure salvation which is a Gospel of works and therefore a false Gospel.

The only mediator is Christ (not priests or any ecclesiastical system as the true Church are made up of the living stones of the redeemed believers), and any man who is repentant (truly sees that he is a sinner) and needs a Saviour, and believes that Christ is the sacrifice for His sin (belief) is on his way to heaven.

Actually the Roman Catholic system seems to be similiar to Jesus statement to the Pharisees "you say you guard the gates of heaven but you yourself will not go in nor will you allow others to enter in"

Of course, some Roman Catholics will indeed find salvation, but it will be somewhat in spite of the official doctrine that they are taught, not really because of it.

Sorry for the non politically correct, non-ecumenical, statement. But it is the truth.

actually bad results could be reapt in just one hearing of this guy........not years......make that one day

Last time I checked the Bible, God Is the great "I AM" and doesnt' need to be made to "look cool". Copying the worlds approach is not a true Christian option; it has superficial results at best. Look, if you can't understand how getting up in a kid's face and screaming how they "bashed Jesus face" in every time they sin until the get their sin nature eradicated, i guess,.........tommorow, then I don't know what to tell you, I just feel sorry for your kids. (By the way you never get your sin nature eradicated in this life, there is victory but this guy doesnt even begin to know the way)

From the heritage this guy comes from, I doubt he even understands the New Testament Gospel; he presents a Gospel of works; not of grace thru faith in the finished work of Christ. Christ said "Come unto me all you who are weary (from sin) and I will give you rest"............Justin gives this fatherless generation a drill sargeant.

He is a direct danger to the very souls of young people everywhere.

Why would anyone practice a religion that is based on deceit, violence, and death?

For example, in the so-called ???beginning,??? of this wonderful religion, God created Adam and Eve, a tempting tree, and a deceitful snake.

As we all know, Eve decides to eat from the tempting tree because the serpent encourages her to do it. After eating from the forbidden tree Eve wants to share the ill-gotten fruit with Adam, who gladly partakes in the forbidden item.

Under normal circumstances, what might be a good punishment for stealing fruit? An apology and payment for the goods? Maybe suspension from the Garden of Eden for a few days? NO, these punishments are insanely light compared to what God meted out. God forced Adam and all humankind to toil/work for a living for the rest of their lives, while Eve and all women were punished by monthly menstrual cycles and the pains of child birth.

Both Adam and Eve and all of their children and their children's children (humankind) were banished from eternal bliss or heaven. That is, the only way humankind will be allowed into heaven again is if God's only son (yet to be created) comes to earth and dies a brutal and violent death. Isn???t this divine child abuse! Does Jesus' brutal killing violate God's own commandment of "Thou shalt not kill?"

So was Jesus setup by God? God is omniscient and therefore knew Adam and Eve would eat from the tempting tree setting up Jesus' gruesome death, so everyone (humankind) would be forgiven for Adam and Eve's mistake. God planned the murder of his son for a very long time. It was a premeditated, millenniums long murder plan. (Talk about holding a grudge.)

We wear reminders of Christ's brutal death (a cross) as a sign of peace. How does a violent death signify love and peace? If gas chambers and guns had been around at the time of Christ, would we wear gas chambers and guns as jewelry if Jesus had died in the gas chamber or by a firing squad? And, instead of the sign of the cross would we point a finger out like a pistol and say "bang, bang" when we entered church in order to remember the death by gunfire?

Why does God keep sending messengers who start new religions that fight with the old religions started by messengers sent by God? If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then why doesn't he/she tell us exactly what we need to do for salvation? God could create a book called "Heaven for Dummies" which would be a kind and gentle way to get us on the correct trajectory.

Isn't God getting a little tired of all the miscommunications, brutality, violence, talking bushes, talking snakes, visions, killings, rapes, slavery, etc. in the name of God?

So is Christianity about God impregnating an unmarried woman and then killing his only child from that liaison? Do you want to spend eternity with a child abuser, killer, homophobic, egotistical, megalomaniac? If not, then I invite you to question your beliefs.

what makes him an idiot, for starters, straight from Justin (from the above article):

His tactics include drill-sergeant-like assaults: "If you sin, you better have the courage to bash Jesus' face in!" Fatica screams at one cherubic girl, pushing her to the verge of tears. "Have you sinned in the last 24 hours? Have ya?! HAVE YA?!" Fatica wants his disciples to feel the pain that Christ suffered for their sins

So where supposed to feel like we bashed Jesus face in everytime we sin; I hates to tell you but the most sanctified saint sins every day, multiply, maybe not to crass overt ones like adultry or grand theft but like envy, anger, covetness, etc

so your gonna tell young people that the Gospel message is that they gotta flaggelate themselves everytime they sin cause their "Bashing Jesus face in" : you give young people that "Gospel" message and you'll make them suicidal because if their halfway honest with themselves they'll see that the sin nature runs way deeper than "workin out 3 times a day" and one has to first be born again and then it's moment by moment dependance on the Holy Spirit to Progressively become Christlike. It's a long process with many failures along the way. Course now that Jus-tins got masturbation under his belt I guess he feels like he's got his sin nature eradicated.............crack the bible open for a couple of months instead of following this lunatic and you'll actually see what I mean einstein. Don't be a follower, have the guts to study the Holy Canon of Scripture for yourself and you'll see why I feel I have the authority to call this clown an irresponsible clown.

and Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc don't claim to be teachers of the Bible and the Gospel, that's the difference. heck the only reason time runs this kinds of articles is to try to foister the idea that Christians are nuts; we'll this guy DOES NOT represent much of what is between the pages of the cover of the Bible.

If he has any integrity at all, someday he will see that he needs to just stop (unless he just wants to feel important and avoid actually finding legitimate vocation for $$) and
"study to show himself approved" because people that proclaim themselves preachers of the Gospel but actually are preaching something altoghether different put themselves under double judgement.

What makes him an idiot, because he believes in Jesus Christ not some doctrine called religion. Maybe you should try getting into the bible before making a IDIOTIC statement such as the one in your comment. Why is it when people find something there passionate about that not hurting anyone, and its your choice to listen or not do they they have to be called idiots. Well hopefully whatever your life plan or goals are no one thinks your an idiot for pursuing them. It never fails society scared to go against the flow of what the crowd is doing. Too bad more people dont go out there and try to do something positive in the world instead of bashing others for their beliefs or positive influence. Maybe we should let them all look up to the real idiots like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc. and YOU.

This man is an idiot, flat out. He toltally misrepresents the Orthodox Christian faith and is an ego-maniac. What he gots is the untion of the spirit, but it ain't the holy spirit. This guys got a lot more to be worried about than 'curing himself of masturbating three time a week by working out'.

He hasn't a clue to what really overcomes the sin nature. This guy is caustic, a charlatan, and I advise anyone who cares to wits about their kids to keep them away from this idiot.

Having seen so many negative comments here it seems that rash judgement is in full bloom. I saw the documentary program and concluded that Justin is a great person and perhaps a saint. The man is full of the love that God has for us and he communicates that love to his listeners.

Yes I have a problem with that! It is completely contrary to the Gospel. Jesus was not a brown shirt Nazi threating people,except the religious leaders of his time,nor did he humiliate anyone. Fanatics whether of religion or non-religion are the same and the end results are the same as well...oppression!!! Father Andrew Gentry

I would challenge anyone who uses such gestapo tactics in the name of Christ. To act like a brown shirt for Jesus is absolutely contrary to the Gospel. For those people who link faith with exclusion I would caution them to remember it is God alone that judges and it is God alone that knows the final destination of souls.The last thing we need is another religious extremist! Lord Help Us! Father Andrew Gentry