What Will Israel Do?

What's cheaper and yet far more profitable?
Swarm Iran with alt energy wind and solar, sell them all the equipment, and send engineers if needed, and totaly retro fit there country, so nuclear is not nessary, no spent fuel to dump, no nuclear threat, and no lose of life, and ,show, the world, what, and ,how, it CAN be done!
Go to war lose 50,000+ American lives, and still get no where, as they live there, we don't. spend yet another few hundred trillion or more, for China to buy off ,and profit Americans in America next to nothing, as we are not self suffecient, and have outsourced our military needs to other countries, we don't work in, and stand a good chance of, no parts, to replace the ones lost in battle!
Personaly I like the retro fit, its far more profitable to America as we build the parts and lose no American lives, and get a lot of orders for the same from other third world countries, including the USA who if retro fitted could once again be self sufficent country, and lead by example, not by threat. If we supply alt energy to the world, nuclear energy would be a atari thing of the past, and its threat free! Consider this, do you want your kids in war, or rebuilding our country and others, to eleminate ALL nuclear possible threats, and waste !!

So let me get this streight. A first world country can play with ther MP3 and cell phones but the first time a Third world country puts down there 8 tracks and start to play Atari pong vidio game they become a tech threat??? and should be blown back to the stone ages, while we steal there oil??? Till they are happy with reel to reel?? While the world speeds right by and as long as there bow and arrow can't take out our nukes we ain't happy or secure??? Because they live, unlike some Native Indians tribes?? Beware the blankets!!
What a waste of time !

One further comment on the issue of other countries' nuclear activities: Shortly after North Korea tested
their nuclear device, "experts" were quoted in the news as stating that the detonation was rather small. Shortly after that, China warned the North Koreans to stop their testing, which they agreed to with unusual
willingness, and then shortly after that Kim Jung Il agreed to talk. I suspect that their nuclear test went off badly, perhaps causing unexpected damage either to equipment, or maybe personnel, leaving them with nothing to work with so that they had to bow to China's demand.
Someone once remarked that many of the spy cameras used by "Big Brother" in George Orwell's "1984" would've been defective because in such a demoralized society, the maintenance personnel would lack the motivation and, perhaps the educational quality, to keep the cameras working. Reports of the shoddy workmanship in just about any civilian area behind the "Iron Curtain" were legion. Only the Soviet's space program seemed to excel. Even in East Germany, whose people were noted for excellent mechanical ability before they became communized (Mercedes, Audi, even VW), the one automobile they built, the Trabant, known as the "trabby," was universally condemned, along with Yugoslavia's Yugo, as a piece of junk, although the Yugo was apparently a better piece of junk than the trabby, inasmuch as the Yugo was able to enter the U.S. market. The point being that the North Korean nuclear scientists were living, probably, under worse pressures than most of the rest of the communist world, what with an estimated 2 million, or more people starving to death in North Korea, some of those scientists must've had family or friends affected by those conditions, thus diminishing their enthusiasm for their work. Maybe, just maybe. Peace.

Israel became a Nation in May 14,1948 and was voted in unanimously by the United States at the United Nations Assembly, Jerusalem was captured by Israel in The Six Day War of June 1967. 1948 - 2008 = 60yrs , A generation has passed and witnessed one the greatest World events in history. Israel is not going away , on the contrary it will continue to exsist , only to be saved by her Creator!

TONY
YOUR RIGHT AS BUSH DID NOT GET HIS BODY COUNT HE WANTED WHEN WE WALKED INTO IRAQ SO THE NEXT BEST THING IS TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN AND GET THE COUNT HE WISHS FOR AND THE WORD IS DICKTATOR=BUSH

Rice urges N Korea and Iran to disarm-TODAYS HEADLINE
Rice has been head buried in the sand to long!!
N Korea started to disarm months ago, and as per intell Iran HAS NOTHING TO DISARM!
INTELL ALSO SUGGEST THAT, AMERICA, WHO DID NOT SIGN THIS TREATY, AND COMPLAINS ABOUT COUNTRIES WHO DID??? AMERICA DOES NOT DISARM, WE REARANGE, AND WE DID SIGN THIS TREATY.
IF N KOREA IS, AND IRAN HAS NOTHING TO DISARM THEN IT SHOULD LEAD TO THE ONE COUNTRY WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY THE TREATIES THEY SIGN-AMERICA!! WHO HAS NOT HELPED RUSSIA DISPOSE OF YELLOW CAKE AS WE SAID WE WOULD, AMERICA, TODAY BUILDS NUKES AND BIO-WEAPONS AGAINST SAID TREATY, AND STARTS *** ANYWHERE WE PLEASE, DESERVES TO BE FINED, AND ALLOW THE IAEA INTO OUR COUNTRY! FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE PISSED AT THE THOUGHT OF THE IAEA IN OUR COUNTRY!! NOW YOU KNOW HOW THE COUNTRIES WE COMPLAIN ABOUT IN BREACH OF A TREATY, WE ARE NOT EVEN PART OF, FEEL! DEAL WITH IT! WE ARE THE WORST AND MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AND NOT BY EXAMPLE BUT BY THREAT OF GENOCIDE! LAST BUT NEVER LEAST-"SOLDIERS DO NOT FAIL-THERE LEADERS DO"!!! NOTE TO THE WORLD-"DO AS WE SAY NOT AS WE DO" OR ELSE!
AUS-THANKS MUCH, SERIOUSLY, I HAVE ASKED ON MANY OCCASIONS WHY WE BLEED FOR THE STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE REGION?? YOU HAVE DONE A MASTERFUL EXPLANATION, THANKS IN EARNEST.

The U.S.A. has 18 nuclear submarines in the seas around the world, at least 8 of which carry more fire-
power than all the explosive power detonated, fired, etc., by all sides during World War II, or so it is claimed.
And we're ready to go to war, or, at least attack, Iran, who has, perhaps the ability to produce ONE BOMB?!
Gimme a break! You can bet we have at least one of those subs within striking distance of the whole mid-
east, and then there's Israel with a rumored 200 "nukes." "What, me worry?" Nah!

As we say in the south ???It is easy to forget why you got into the pond when you are up to your neck in alligators???.
Current map of the middles including its geopolitics was created after WWI and WWII. Having said that it is easy to see after a passage of a century, especially after the fall of the Soviet Union, the geopolitics of the world and the Middle East in particular has changed. Iran no longer fears an expansionist Soviet Union and Israel no longer holds its strategic important as it once did. There is only one reason for 50+ yeas of US backing of Israel. It is in line with our interest in the region. If you think it???s anything but that then you are more emotional that you are analytical.
As the world changes so does the US global strategy. This has never been more paramount than the rise of Iranian nationalism or spread of its influence in the Middle East. No one can deny that the Iranian nation is on the rise. It exerts far more military and political influence in the region than it has for the past 300 years. This is what Israel fears not the Nukes.
As Iran emerged intact from its 8 bloody years of war with Iraq and watched its three neighboring enemies (Soviet Union, Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan) fall it quickly moved to exert its influence thru trade and politics. Iran sits on some of the largest deposit of energy in the world. Due to this simple fact at some point in the near future Iran and the west (US, Brittan, France and Germany) will normalize their relationship. This will only come thru strength by the Iranians as Americans do not respect the weak. There is no room for denying any country of its right to acquire knowledge (nuclear technology). This was true during the Galileo era as is true today.
Israel needs to make peace with the Arabs while it holds military and political power. Its power will not go unchecked for ever.

Isreal can find itself politicaly isolated if it acts alone. The world has not forgotten how WMDs were explotted in the invasion of Iraq. Other Arab nations who have sat on the sidelines and are silently happy Iran has stopped its' weapon program will be pressed by its' people to express their dissaproval and give the extremess grounds to sway new recruits.

The strident anti-Iran talk out of the White House needed more substance behind it to avoid a repeat of the anti-Iraq prelude to war. This time, they'd prefer to have the proof of WMD up front, and therefore need Iran to take more obviously dangerous steps toward having nukes; they therefore need to give Iran room and time to get them-- and therefore need an "intelligence estimate" allowing the U.S. to back off for now.

First and foremost, people need to put down the Tom Clancy novels and pick up, "Support Any Friend: Kennedy's Middle East and the Making of the U.S.-Israel Alliance" by Warren Bass. Second, Iran has exactly no incentive or advantage by launching a nuclear attack on Israel. The nuclear fallout would have a devastating impact on the Mediterranean Sea, the countries that border it and the countries that surround Israel including alleged Iranian ally, Syria. Given, that Syria would be exposed to the fallout in the event of an attack, Israel has the incentive to keep Syria as a formal adversary. Hence, Israel is using Syria as a buffer. Therefore, one must conclude that a nuclear attack by Iran would lead to a harsh response by Mediterranean Sea countries and their respective allies, and at best, isolation by Iranian allied countries such as Syria, if not new antagonistic states towards Iran. The expected argument to this is that Iran will just attack regardless of strategic collateral damage to itself. However, this argument relies on the assumption that a given country, in this case, Iran, collective suffers from schizophrenic rationality. Some how they are rational enough to put together a nuclear program but they throw that same rationality out the window in the context of nuclear armament strategy. Nice try, but any country that ???suffers??? from this ???condition??? does not last two days. So in conclusion, we should expect Israel and U.S. hawks to spout out about Middle East ???nuclear threats???, but when applying logic and understanding the incentives that are involved, such ???dire warnings??? are more heat then light. Further more, the U.S. armed forces should never be a de facto defense for Israel.