Posted By: peterbbultman @ 03/31/2008 6:41:18 PM
Comment: Look at crime states and tell me that the races aren't different. Pro-Eugenics. www.goodoleboybumperstickers.com
Human evolution has created a remarkable diversity--not between races so much as among individuals. That's going to challenge our notions of justice.
Comment: Look at crime states and tell me that the races aren't different. Pro-Eugenics. www.goodoleboybumperstickers.com
Comment: I find the argument disinegenuous. "Justice" has to be premised on 'equal identity" and biological diversity threatens that? Nonsense! Why in the world would Justice be dependent on such a thing?!?
I suggest that the speaker takes an unfounded/unproven personal belief and proceeds to build up an argument about "acceptance" and such upon that. Taking trivialities such as musical ability, and conflating individual genetics with racial genetics is deceptive, at best. I don't believe anyone doubts individual genetics. However, the genetic differences between human races is incredibly small and the speaker makes no substantive c ase as to why "Justice" should vary based on any tiny differences.
Comment: mmmm We already allow for biological differences influence the judicial process. A persons state of mind is often taken into account. And as we become more enlightened these differences will more and more be taken into account. The problem I see is not that we may judge people differntly based on their biological predisposition after the fact but that we might do it before. Now that's a whole new ball game and It is inevitable, but not in my life time. As a species we are not that advanced. Yet.
Comment: Human diversity is not just due to huge increase in the population, but though (1) a selective elimination through death and destruction by wars and ethnic aggression imposed by a select few groups on another set of select few. , as well as through (2) mass starvation and death due to famines. In either case, the eliminated ones constitute the part of those selected against from Darwinian way of looking at the scenario. Nonetheless, the definition of equality has to be made carefully, not interms of the equality of the phenotype but the equal opportunity which is exactly what was not alloowed during past 2000 years of human
civilizational advance. In the era of Genom ics we have very quickly passed the stage where chimps were considered so close to humans that any intrahuman diversity was excluded. Not so any more. Indeed, mostgenomics guys have forgotten or egnored the possibility that weven with all genes being present and/or similar, the decisive factors involves the expression program of the pattern forming gene clusters and the epigenetic implications of physical and social environment.
Comment: I can see only flaw in this statement of "challenge our notions of justice" based on individuality. Science and research are just that. The studying, analyzing, and theorizing of something. All of which in themselves is challenged by the question until that is all you have. A question with no definite answers, because of evolution. We are what we are now, and until we physically transform let us abide by the law of one for all, and all for one.
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