POLITICS 2008

Hillary’s Hidden Hand

The former First Lady says her years in the White House give her unmatched experience. A Clinton biographer assesses her powerful behind-the-scenes role.

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  • Posted By: kmk123 @ 01/09/2008 2:27:41 AM

    i feel like i was readying the national enquirer...most statements likely taken out of context and with no real validity... pure speculation! Shame on newsweek for printing this.. have some class..

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/04/2008 1:48:47 AM

    OBAMA FOR president

  • Posted By: ken sears @ 12/31/2007 10:12:17 AM

    "There is no doubt that Hillary's proximity to the Oval Office has given her a familiarity with the presidency that is unsurpassed by any of her rivals. She knows the mechanics of the White House and the demands of the job."
    In fact, there is no doubt that Hillary's experience has taught her how to hector a president, the one at whose desk the buck actually stops, while maintaining her position in the shadows, the place where she leaves "no fingerprints". It is highly likely that this is the worst possible "training" for the genuine responsibilities of the presidency. It is one thing to be Rasputin, it is another to be Tsar. Who is Hillary going to call on the phone and swear at when she's the one who has to make the tough, final decisions? Worse, keeping in mind that she'd have probably vetoed the final welfare reform bill just as much as the first two versions, no matter how much the country was ready for it, this lady presents a very scary prospect. I admit, I would not have voted for Hillary, anyway, I'm not trying to fool anybody. But you know how, after an election, even if your favorite lost, you say to yourself, "Oh, well, that's that. Good luck to the winner and I guess things will work out more or less"? I was prepared to feel that way even if Hillary won the presidency. After reading this article, however, I am inclined to think I'll have nothing but a deep, quiet sense of foreboding and dread if she gets into the White House.
    All the same, and paradoxically, I'd kind of like to see her get the Dem nomination. Because I believe she'll lose in November.
    Ken Sears
    Dallas, TX

  • Posted By: ken sears @ 12/26/2007 12:27:03 AM

    Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/25/2007 09:34:14
    Comment: i guess you want another bush...better get used to Madam President ...tex

    Because I see something wrong with Hillary, it means I want "another Bush"... there's an intelligent comment for you. You really are obsessive, aren't you?
    Don't know whether you noticed, but there isn't "another Bush" running this time. So... get over it already, why don't you... "spark".
    Hillary is looking like the most Nixonian candidate the Dems have ever had the possibility of nominating. I think there are other Dem candidates who could take it in 2008, but not Hillary. So... please nominate Hillary, Democrats!
    Ken Sears

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 12:09:58 PM

      thank God theres not another bush running good ole jeb kinda made his self scarce didnt he but hell the supreme court could have picked him like it did his brother...but i guess your not smart enough to know there was another one..no i dont think i'm obsessive i just think this just might be Americas last chance to change the worlds view of us...if you can remember the day after 9/11 the president of France said "today we are all Americans" but it only took bush and his chicken hawks less than a year for most of the world to hate us...why because we started acting like the very people we were after and by the way where is osama ben laden...we dont know were to busy fighting a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 ...i think15 of the terroist were from sudi araba...why did we not attack them...Hillary is the only person that can restore the worlds views of America...the world loves billand the only thing you see wrong with hillary is the repugs are scared to death of her because they know she will win but hell a yellow dog could win aganist the repugs next election....we have been fooled long enough by the fear the repugs run on....thats all the got is fear and low taxes for the rich and let the red necks have there guns... by the way Nixon was a repug.

      • Posted By: ken sears @ 12/29/2007 10:36:12 AM

        Because I see something wrong with Hillary, it means I want "another Bush"... there's an intelligent comment for you. You really are obsessive, aren't you?
        Don't know whether you noticed, but there isn't "another Bush" running this time. So... get over it already, why don't you... "spark".
        Hillary is looking like the most Nixonian candidate the Dems have ever had the possibility of nominating. I think there are other Dem candidates who could take it in 2008, but not Hillary. So... please nominate Hillary, Democrats!
        Ken Sears

        Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 12:09:58
        Comment: thank God theres not another bush running good ole jeb kinda made his self scarce didnt he but hell the supreme court could have picked him like it did his brother...but i guess your not smart enough to know there was another one.

        Hey, "Spark!" Not only are you obsessive, you're desperate! Because I noted there wasn't another Bush running this time, you "intelligently" concluded I didnt' know there was "another one", i.e., anyone else named Bush. I assume you're talking about Jeb? And/or GWB's other siblings? Tell me, was your major in college "Gratuitious Empty-Headed Shots"? If so, I'm sure you got a 4.0.
        You are too, too sad, too, too desperate and too, too obsessed. Do you actually have a life beyond posting idiotic comments? Hmm, "Spark"?
        Get help, while there's time, Spark.
        Ken Sears

  • Posted By: NickyK33 @ 12/28/2007 11:23:40 PM

    With her intimate knowledge of the workings inside the white house, plus her 7 years in the Senate (Armed Services Committee), Hilary Clinton is by far the most uniquely qualified candidate to step into the whitehouse and begin the job of being President. I, for one, plan to vote for her - at this point in time we cannot afford to waste time on someone that does not understand the job and all it's complexities.

  • Posted By: dialmorten @ 12/28/2007 2:32:37 PM

    I would be interested to know what source Sally Smith in her article Hillary's Hidden Hand used to make a statement "he (Bill Clinton) had to defer to her (Hillary), in part because of their implicit marital bargain, in which Bill ceded her power as a trade-off for his history of infidelity." No source was mentioned and I wonder on what grounds does Smith have to include such a statement. Does Newsweek print anything a writer writes? Another dispute I have with Smith in this article is her personal concern to know all the details of the Clintons marital matters. Like that is any concern of hers or anyone else. Let her (Smith) disclose her marital discourse with the World. What a trivial and malicious journalism. Sally, Get a life!

  • Posted By: derricktrance @ 12/27/2007 1:13:16 PM

    After Bush ,I am not ready to vote for another well experienced liar like Hillary Clinton.These so-called "well experienced "candidates are conditioned to lying like the Pavlov dog.As far as I'm concerned ,political experience is about saving your skin and we dont need it in this century.We need a candidate who will save America,not his or her political career.A lot of experience means a lot of lying.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/27/2007 2:36:22 AM

    Hillary Clinton voting for the war, and a blank check for the war is against everything she stands for, unfortunately there are forces that control individuals in Washinton that is beyond our realm. Inotherwords if a politician is in trouble they will go against their own principles just to save themselves. This is why I say Hillary should be appointed to a health and childrens welfare committee under an Obama presidency. That way she will not be susceptible to scandal. The Clintons have shown time and time again that they are too political. Their decisions are based on what's best for them first and the people second. Hillary Clinton laughs at the fact that there are individuals who can tell her what kind of president to be. If going negative assists her she will do it, if going family helps her she will do it. These individuals in Washington have been programed to adhere to the will of special interst lobbyists. Why do you think we fund Israeli security forces. The politician is guided by their own narrow interests. This the conclusion I have come too over the holidays. The democrats that have been in the Senate and in the Congress for the last 6 years and have done nothing on a national scale. Edwards has done nothing as a Senator, his voting record indicates he has gone along with whatever the mainstream has wanted him to do, Clinton has done what ever the mainstream has wanted her to do, and pelosi has been playing games and is getting schooled everyday. I have no choice but to vote for OBAMA, what other hope is exist. We need someone who is not programmed and that can bring unity. Obama has not flip floped, he has run a steady and unified campaign even when he was down in the polls, his campaign has stayed focused and positive. Clinton went from negative, to bashing, to family . What is going it is like a script has been written everyday and Hillary is just the actor reading the lines. Like I said there are those that think they are far more experienced and knowledgable than us, but when you look at their individual record it is as if they never had experience. We are stupid and this is why our candidates act stupid. Remember our candidates are a reflection of our society, do what you half to do to get ahead even if it means going against your principles. Experience.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/27/2007 2:35:59 AM

    You do not control the Government the Government controsl you and this has to change. We are not talking race we are talking constitution. The Government is cleverly taking over our civil liberties, slowly, intelligently. Keeping us dumb. Romney is playing the same card Bush did. There stupid so do not play smart

  • Posted By: Mac-101 @ 12/26/2007 10:33:36 PM

    I just skimmed all the comments. I can't believe that no one mentioned her little habit of using the personal files the IRS and FBI had on political rivals, ie. conservatves, as bed time stories in her White House bedroom. For all you liberals that complain about the Patriot Act stealiing all our personal freedoms, there isn't a peep about this.

  • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 12/26/2007 10:12:56 PM

    It will be interesting to watch how Hillary explains her role as first lady because it???s a double edge sword. But no matter what, the discussion will highlight the fact that she is candidate only because she is married to Bill Clinton.

    On the one hand, to emphasize experience, she wants to show that she had a lot of say in Bills administration. But that would make Bill look somewhat like a wussy. It will also point to undue influence and undermining other cabinet members. It also brings into question what recipricol influence Bill will have over the Hillary Administration.

    On the other hand, if she says she merely played the appropriate role as a first lady, then it will take away from her claim of experience. Granted, living in the White House with her husband does give her experience. However, its not much more experience that Laura Bush has to become president.

    Unfortunately, for her, no matter how she presents her role as first lady, it will highlight the fact that she is a Presidential candidate only because she is married to Bill Clinton. If not for Bill, she would not be Senator. If not for Bill, she would not have the special powers she enjoyed as being Bills wife. If not for Bill, she would definitely not be a presidential candidate. Bill Clinton really fought 95 percent of Hillarys battle to the White House. Her only major battle scar is from enduring Bill Clintons scandals.

    In contrast, Obama, Edwards, and the other candidates are candidates on their own hard work, experience, and talent.

  • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 12/26/2007 10:12:42 PM

    It will be interesting to watch how Hillary explains her role as first lady because it???s a double edge sword. But no matter what, the discussion will highlight the fact that she is candidate only because she is married to Bill Clinton.

    On the one hand, to emphasize experience, she wants to show that she had a lot of say in Bills administration. But that would make Bill look somewhat like a wussy. It will also point to undue influence and undermining other cabinet members. It also brings into question what recipricol influence Bill will have over the Hillary Administration.

    On the other hand, if she says she merely played the appropriate role as a first lady, then it will take away from her claim of experience. Granted, living in the White House with her husband does give her experience. However, its not much more experience that Laura Bush has to become president.

    Unfortunately, for her, no matter how she presents her role as first lady, it will highlight the fact that she is a Presidential candidate only because she is married to Bill Clinton. If not for Bill, she would not be Senator. If not for Bill, she would not have the special powers she enjoyed as being Bills wife. If not for Bill, she would definitely not be a presidential candidate. Bill Clinton really fought 95 percent of Hillarys battle to the White House. Her only major battle scar is from enduring Bill Clintons scandals.

    In contrast, Obama, Edwards, and the other candidates are candidates on their own hard work, experience, and talent.

  • Posted By: Augie @ 12/26/2007 9:55:14 PM

    I Think she will make a great President,like you said she lerarn,from her mistakes. She will be great.

  • Posted By: cspaits @ 12/25/2007 7:45:38 PM

    PLEASE DO NOT VOTE HILLARY IN!!!! IF SHE GETS IN BILL WILL HAVE ANOTHER MONICA LEWINSKY EPISODE. BOTH BILL AND HILLARY ARE LIERS!!!! MAYBE BILL CAN HAVE A FOURSOME - HILLARY, MONICA AND ANOTHER LESBIAN FRIEND OF HILLARY'S. I THINK GEORGE W BUSH IS DOING THE BEST HE CAN WITH THE BEST INFO HE IS GETTING AROUND HIM. ONE THING I WISH FOR IS CONDI RICE GO GET THE GAP BETWEEN HER FRONT TEETH TAKEN CARE OF. I HEAR SHE SPENDS ALMOST A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SHOES - WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT - A PAIR OF SHOES OR HAVING A NICE APPEARANCE ON HER HERSELF. AGAIN, DO NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY! THE LAST DAY THE CLINTONS WERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE - JANUARY 20, 2001 - I HEARD THEY TOOK THE "W'S" OFF ALL THE TYPEWRITERS! OH PLEASE, HOW MUCH OF A MORAN COULD YOU BE? THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND FIRST LADY - SHOW A LITTLE DIGNITY - OH, I FORGOT, CLINTON HAD SEX IN THE OVAL OFFICE. HOW GROSS! IF HE WANTED TO HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH AN INTERN COULDN'T HE AFFORD TO GO TO SOME HOTEL OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO DO HIS THING!!!!!!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/25/2007 9:46:32 PM

      i'll take that any day over the jerk thats in office now...he lies so much he makes bill sound like a sunday school teacher you can tell when bush is lieing his lips are moveing the way he talks he's most likely still a drunk and coke head he has no idea what the truth is...he makes nixon look good....what ever happened to ole jeb bush...thought they were going to have the supreme court or diebold make him the next president....bush provede you dont have to get elected if you have the big boys (the rich) on your sidebet ole cspaits hasnt served in the military probably a chicken hawk like bush dick and ole rummy...at least the world did not hate us when we had a real President....sparky716 (US NAvy 1963 TO 1967)

      • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 8:17:33 PM

        Oh sparky, come out of the Clinton cocoon, and breathe in some freshy air of reality. Due to his lack of being truthful, and inability to control his libido, Bill Clinton is only the second president in our nation's history to be impeached. While I do not agree with every GWB policy or philosophy, and I very much believe the military plan involving Iraq whould have included an exit plan when it was developed, the fact is that Clinton swayed with the political winds like young Georgia pines being bent over by hurricane winds, while GWB has remained true to his beliefs, regardless of the nosedive of his popularity. There stands a much better chance of history treating GWB kinder than there ever will be of it treating Bill Clinton in a good way.
        Finally, if we truly are hated so badly, as you believe, why is it that the US is usually the first to come to the aid of nations after disaster has struck them? Two cases in point, 1. southeast Asia, after the devastating tsunamis a couple of years ago, and 2.- NOW BE SURE TO GET THIS IF YOU DO NOT GET ANYTHING ELSE - America providing IRAN with humanitarian relief after a major earthquake. Imagine what the vast majority of Germans and Japanes really DO feel about the US, given that America helped greatly to rebuild them after WWII? Need another example - the Marshall Plan, under Harry Truman, which helped war torn south Europe get back on its feet. Think Bin Laden and his thugs really do represent the views of the rest of the people of the world? Think again, and study the actual proof!

        • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 9:50:42 PM

          your memory is short didn't nixon quit reather than be impeached...unlike bush he had the balls to quit before he was impeached...if bush was any kind of a man he would quit and move to iraq

        • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 9:47:16 PM

          that was the America before bush distroyed it seems like after the hurricane in n.o. bush turned down help from other countrys wow what a great leader..one thing for sure all you people of the GOP can only attack attack but have no plan for any thing...what is the bush exit plan for iraq (which has lasted longer than ww2) pass it on to hillary....and its funny nothing is king george fault everything that has happened since the war between the states was President Clintons fault...the GOP is attack attack blame others ant i dont recall...for such smart people they cant recall any thing but what President Clinton did

  • Posted By: tfm149653 @ 12/26/2007 9:36:00 PM

    Why doesn't Obama have to talk about his Religion, I would like to know if he is a Muslim and when does he think that God may send him on a mission to kill more Americans!

  • Posted By: tfm149653 @ 12/26/2007 9:19:40 PM

    I am a man from south Louisiana, I have followed The Clinton's since day one and I think Hillary Clinton is the most qualified to run our country of all the other Candidates including Democrats and republicans.
    One thing I don't understand is why Obama does not have to talk about his Religion, I think the people of
    America need to know more! Is he a Muslim, If so when may Christ send him to kill more Americans!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 9:25:51 PM

      look at mitt he a cult member....

  • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 4:16:49 PM

    Sparky needles to say I have not been overjoyed with the Bush presidency but it did not take any effort on his part to bring respect back to the white house after following the poll following clinton's. I'm all for no more Bush's and no more clinton's, and if nothing changes no more incumbants no matter what party affiliation. So let me apologize in advance for sparky because without someone telling him how to vote he would not be able to stand on his own two feet.

    • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 7:27:54 PM

      Ever wonder why the GOP primary candidates mention the name "Reagan" a lot? Simple - you may have diagreed with his policies and political philosophies, but you KNEW where he stood, always. Myself, I fondly remember the Reagan years as one of re-energizing America after the cemoralizing years of the Carter Administration. Both men had good qualities which brought them to the Oval Office to serve, but with RR, it was an optimistic spirit and a pragmatic ability to use common sense in addressing key issues of the day that allows for him to still be ranked high among Americans (with the exception being the liberal historians). A man who could battle Tip O'Neil during the day over politics, then visit with him at day's end over a drink and shared Irish jokes between them - THAT is what is needed more today. A sense of a word not spoken often in DC now - bipartisanship, working for the good of the nation, not just the political party.
      Put those years beside of the years of the first two Clinton presidential tenures, then imagine a possible Hillary administration. I think both Dems and GOPs will EASILY see such is NOT the best for America, and it never should happen.

      • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 8:14:13 PM

        to bad rr couldnt remember being president...he could never recall any thing and nacy had to check the stars to tell him what to do he was a b actor and a b president his monkey movie the monkey was smarter than him

        • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 8:25:54 PM

          Good ole sparky - once again, showing your true ignorance of actual facts. As for Mr. Reagan's Alzheimer's illness, which came about after his tenure, as one who has a close relative who is battling the disease, I pity you for making such a remark, for it shows your shear stupidity. If you've any relatives or a hand full of friends (which is questionable), you owe them am apology for behaving in such a callus manner, and may God have mercy on you that you never have to experience the ravages of the horrible disease. Finally, it is the apathetic views you express that lead many Americans to think their opinions, and their participation at the ballot box doesn't matter, and I HIGHLY encourage anyone reading this to VOTE, to show those like sparky who are so full of apathy (and manure) that their views do not represent the true feeling of our land, regardless of your political party affiliation.

          • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 9:23:58 PM

            i was talking about while he was president not after...no one would say anthings in his later years...that would be sick...im talking about when he was in office not years later...i think ollie north had the same memory problem also...but its ok if the gop break the laws there above the law...ask bush or dick.

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 4:39:20 PM

      wow im sorry also...my biggest fault is were losing the America i was born into (I was born in 1946) and i love this country very much...i joined the navy in 1963 (not drafted) because i cared.I have voted in every election since i was 18...and i afraid my kids and grand kids will not live in a free America as i haveI admit President did a lot of immoral things but he will answer to God for that but bush has lied to us stolen our freedoms (Patriot act) and so much more.If we ever get in a real war what will they do to our boys because bush has ignored the Geneva Act and our troops will pay for it.I believe untill bush our country was different than every other country in the world i was always so proud to say I'M A AMERICAN but now i'm not so proud of my country because we have become like the people we are fighting....We do everything they do we just do it in another country...we need to return to AMERICA the good guys any by the way i dont hate all republicians....i really liked IKE and President Ford...they were real Amsericans in my book...i sorry i was mean to you but i love the USA and think bush has distroyed our foundation. (sorry i can't spell but i went to school in the south and spelling wasnt my best subject.God Bless America Sparky

      • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 5:02:08 PM

        Sparky I will apologize as well, and I agree America is not what it used to be I am as frustrated as yourself with todays conditions in America. I respect that you are a veteran and wish myself that I could have served in the days of WWII. Todays wars will be nothing like the past were brave men made the difference. I will agree to disagree with you on how to fix America but hope for the best outcome. Times have changed a lot since the Geneva Accords and we really are not fighting against a sovereign government so to me it makes sense that they do not apply, besides the enemy today beheads you on the internet. What kind of deterrent is there for the type of people? Just so you know I sent the white house an email friday addressed to president bush explaining that I am now ashamed to call myself American as well, but not solely due to him but our government that bows to money and money only.

  • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 2:06:07 PM

    The truth hurts doesn't it bn2win...all you can do is attack me for spelling.I feel sorry for you and yes ignorance abounds throughout america.I'll leave you with this President Clinton won both the elections fair...the supream court elected bush the first time and diebold the second.

    • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 4:10:17 PM

      Do you realize that it was a democratic judge that cast the final say in the 04 vote. Check it out or can you read or do you just spout off at the mouth what others tell you.

      • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 8:33:49 PM

        bn2win, one quick correction - You're right about the vote, but not the year. 2000 was the year, but your point is a very good one. Thanks for making it!

    • Posted By: Anti Clinton Criminal INC @ 12/26/2007 6:22:55 PM

      Gore was a reporter and had 2 body guards he went for three months and daddy got him out, Kerry a self decorated phony balony that everyone hate who got a dishonable discharge for his anti war pro Viet Cong, stance in 1972!, Carter changed the records gave him a honorable disharged as an officer, in 1978 look that one up his records are sealed from 72-78! Billy bob was paraded around in Red Square by the KGB in 1969-70 when no one could get into RUSSIA including Perot, Billy Bob Clinton was a Draft Dodger, you can look that up, Hillary was a Frumpy ugly women with hairy armpits thick ugly glasses who hated cops call them PIGS she still hates the military just ask the Marines that protected her in the Clinton Whore House!
      She would gut the Military, she has no business ever being Commander in Chief, would take America down half of what our military Might! Sparky you get your facts from Moveon.s--t, or code pinko,f-g it is easy to find things out now! Gore never saw a day action, an Kerry fabricated an injury of a hot rice embeded in his Butt, he also did fabricate his purple heart because he recomended himself!!!! oh I forgot he went to camodia! I think you listen to that radio show that has 3 listeners and you are a member of the daily kooks and you gett talking points every morning from the communist party in America! This is America, not 1969 AMERIKA like you want!

      • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 8:32:27 PM

        where was bush and dick..no where near nam were they... you sound a lot like hilter to me in fact you would probably happy if we were more like germany in 1933 wouldnt you...people like you are whats wrong with this nation...bet you listen to the old right wing drugie rush r and love the coke head bush your just mad your days are over king george has ruled through fear long enough...why do yo think the house and senate are not in the kings hands now and next year it will be Madam President

  • Posted By: Monetfan @ 12/25/2007 11:28:10 PM

    I wanted to quickly point out that on the experience issue, Barack Obama has more legislative time in office than did Abraham Lincoln when he was elected in 1860. Obama and Lincoln each served eight years in the Illinois State Legislature - but Lincoln served only one two-year term in the U.S. House of Representatives, whereas Obama will have completed four years in the U.S. Senate when he is elected next November! Also, Obama has the two most important qualities, IMO, to be a great president - wisdom and the ability to unite people. He showed wisdom in his opposition to the war in Iraq way back in 2002 when very few Democrats had the courage or foresight to speak out. And he has shown his ability to bring people together in both his state and national legislative time in office. He also has a vision that this country can be great again. Democrats, let's not miss this opportunity to nominate this wonderful man. (p.s. - I tried to post these thoughts about two hours ago, but never saw it appear - so if this turns out to be a duplicate post, I apologize!)

    • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 8:04:49 PM

      This likely will sound unusual, coming from a "Reagan Republican", but saying Obama has more experience than Lincoln is very similar to Dan Quayle stating he possessed the same amount of experience as JFK when he was the VP nomnee in 1988. Unlike Lloyd Bentsen's "I knew Jack Kennedy.." rebutal, I can't say I knew Abraham Lincoln, nor can I say Abe Lincoln was a friend of mine, but I SURE CAN say that Barrack Obama is NO ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Lincoln possesed the wisdom to lead and the ability to do so that only a very few of his successors have come close to emulating, and have strived to do so. Monetfan, perhaps, just perhaps, it might be wise to lay off the glasses of Monet for a bit, study and compare what Mr. Lincoln had to lead America through with the tenures of Mr. Obama in the Illinois state house, and the short tenure in the US Senate, and then, after doing such, I believe you'll be apt to reassess your view, or, at least, rephrase your words.

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 6:07:11 AM

      lincoln was the next to the worse president ever (bush is the worse) he could not hold the country together which resulted in the war between the states...the best dem is probably joe biden but hillary will get it and become the best we have ever had.

  • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 6:14:36 PM

    well this is getting off the subject and were just mean mouthing each other and have forgot the newsweek article..i'll say this and then delete this link ..yes i think isreal had a women leader Golda Meir England had a woman leader and Pakistan had one also so yes a woman can lead...with this said good day and God Bless America...remember you get what you vote for

    • Posted By: Anti Clinton Criminal INC @ 12/26/2007 7:51:08 PM

      Both of those women had something in common, they where great people and where leaders and deserved the possitions they got, Hillary has non of those qualities, she is so classless Hillbilly, ungracious, ego driven, souless, godless, talentless, vicious, ugly women! She posses no qualities that qualify her to president!
      NONE!

      • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 8:03:31 PM

        you sound like a big ass hole to me cant wait till you have to say Madam President you bigot...you sound like your ass hole buddy bush...cant take it that a womon is smarter than you can you

    • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 7:17:49 PM

      Thing is, that Israel had a very, very good PM in Golda Mier, and Lady Magaret Thatcher served as Britan's Prime Minister very, very well. Both women were strong in character and stearn in standing for their principals. As for Butto of Pakistan, unfortunately, her tenure was marked with corruption, and she left the nation in disgrace after a coup. I will GLADLY consider voting for a woman candidte who is well qualified, who does not sway with political winds in making difficult decisions, and who does not have the baggage of a spouse who is a former president to weigh her down. That is why I wouldn't, and will not vote for Hillary Clinton, BUT I will, should a woman candidate emerge, regardless of which political party, that exhibits a record of leadership, not of following, who has proven she can stand on her own for the good of the nation, and not just for herself, and who exhibits both the common sense and the intellect to guide our nation because she is the best candidate among her peers, again regardless of party. Gender isn't the issue. The INDIVIDUAL is the issue, and Hillary Clinton clearly ISN'T the woman who should serve as our nation's first female president, or even as VP.

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