Hillary’s Hidden Hand

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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/26/2007 3:14:53 AM

    You do not control the Government the Government controsl you and this has to change. We are not talking race we are talking constitution. The Government is cleverly taking over our civil liberties, slowly, intelligently. Keeping us dumb. Romney is playing the same card Bush did. There stupid so do not play smart.

    • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 7:55:04 PM

      eddiewhere, you make an excellent observation. President Reagan, on many occassions during his tenure, and in campaigns before, stated that the most important words in the US Constitution were, and I quote, "We The People". Regardless of political party affiliation or philosophy, the citizens of America need to protect the rights of the American indvidual, and fight the philosophy of conformity, of blindly following what DC, not the citizens of this great land, believe is best.
      Again, an EXCELLENT observation, and thank you for making such.

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 12/26/2007 12:58:37 PM

    well, i am happy sparky716 to go through your comment. i can not agree more than what you have endorsed. to add " this REPUBLICANS will definitely rig the election TAKE IT FROM ME. THE CRIMINAL IS SITTING QUIET(BUSH). HE WILL GO INTO ACTION SHOULD THE SITUATION ARISE. The DEMOCRATS should not let go the REPUBLICANS THIS TIME. YOU ARE SLIGHTLY OFF THE MARK WHEN YOU SAID "thank God theres not another bush running good ole jeb kinda " but then who is OBAMA YOU KNOW? HE IS A REPUBLICAN IN THE GARB OF THE DEMOCRAT A PET OF LEIBERMAN AND A PAID AGENT OF THE AIPAC. IF ANY DOUBT CHECK IT UP. HE IS A CLON OF BUSH AND A CLOSE COUSIN OF DICK CHENEY. D C HAPPY

    • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 7:49:54 PM

      dchappy, allow me to encourage you to study up on your history, particularly the 1960 Presidential election, between Jack Kennedy and Dick Nixon. The truth, revealed long after the unfortunate death of JFK, is that had it not been for the ballot rigging machines of Chicago's mayor, Richard Daley, Sr., and Texan Lyndon B. Johnson (aka "Landslide Lyndon"), the JFK administration would never have been. However, unlike one Albert Gore, Jr., Richard Nixon felt it would be best not to contest the election, even though corruption was very likely the case, and he did so becuase he felt it would do irrepairable harm to the country. If you still need further examples, look over the gubernatorial administration of Democrat Ray Blanton of Tennessee, or of former governor of Louisiana, Edwin Edwards.
      dchappy, those who do NOT study history, and learn from it the errors made, are likely to relive it, and it's clearly evident you've much studying to do, so get to it.

  • Posted By: bddc33 @ 12/26/2007 3:38:24 PM

    I'll argue with you anyday sparky716. I'm highly educated and politically involved. I voted for Bush, and I don't feel stupid or ignorant. In 2000 I could've voted for a tree hugger that would have done NOTHING to fight extremism. In 2004 my other option was someone who couldn't make up his own mind, and stand for something. I don't believe we went to Iraq for the stated reasons, but I also know we are ALREADY OVER THERE. GET OVER IT. As an American, we must face and fix our mistakes or we will be reduced to nothing more then a sub-par wannabe superpower. We owe it to ourselves and to the Iraqi's to own up to what we started. I find it hilarious that Cutting and Running is an actual strategy for the democrats. We need to find an acceptable way out, and that is the only answer. Oh, and Sparky, I can see through your rant that BN2WIN's statement would be correct. Quit complaining, and get over it. I'm sure it's easy for you to say all that from your comfortable home. Oh, and I am also not chicken. If you would like a picture of the scar of the bullet hole left in my chest, give me your email.

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 5:19:23 PM

      if you voted for bush twice your not highly educated and not very politically involved...if your so smart how could you vote for some one whos daddy got them in the guard so they would not have to go fight for there country over two MEN, Mr. Gore and Mr. Kerry who went over there a fought for there country and i think mr Gore went twice..you were probably born with a silver spoon like bush (hope you did not use yours to snort coke like bush did) and ole dick c says he was to busy to go...now there what you consider real Americans i guess...how did you get the bullet hole in your chest...hunting with dick ?

      • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 7:37:42 PM

        To sparky716 - As with the subject of beauty, well educated and politically involved are usually in the eyes of the beholder, and from my viewpoint, I can't say you qualify for either.
        Myself, I hold a Bachelor of Science degree in Education, but I also know severl fine men and women who are "well educated" that didn't graduate from high school, due to the economic turmoil of their youth. I've had the privilege of working in several campaigns as a volunteer over the years, and have worked as both a registar and as a machine operator in past elections. However, the citizens who are "politically involved" are the ones who step into the polling place booths, and casts their votes, be it for national, state or local elections. They, Sparky, THEY are the ones who are "politically involved", regardless of party affiliation!
        I've always said, and will always say that the citizen who consistently votes has every right to voice their opinion about the gov't and current issues, and the citizens who do not vote have forfieted any legitmate right to complain, plain and simple, possibly TOO plain for you to comprehend.

  • Posted By: tnfan62 @ 12/26/2007 7:08:48 PM

    Remember "Slick Willy"'s comment of "getting two for the price of one", in the 1992 campaign? Well, if she DID serve as a "co-president", even without the title, would she legally be qualified to run for the presidency? Of course, no judge in the land has the courage to challenge that idea, grant you, but think of it - would you REALLY want a 16 years period in the US history of co-president Clintons? While Bill may have done some good things in office that Hillary now says "We did...", truth is, NO amont of years as first lady qualifies her for the job, and her record as NY's junior senator should be the measuring stick of performance. My feeling is if the other Democratic candidates had the gumption to focus on that record, he'd easily show her true lack of qualities of leadership, and that voters from BOTH political parties would make sure next November wouldn't be another Clinton coronation. Then again, if the other Dem candidates were to do sp, it would be Slick Willy slipping and sliding to the rescue for ole Hil'!

  • Posted By: bunkerrl @ 12/26/2007 6:55:13 PM

    Sally,thank you for refreshing my memory! And to those of you who have been writing the mean-spirited comments back and fourth to each other, I want to thank you too---for reminding me of what is truely wrong with our world--people like you!

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/25/2007 10:38:22 AM

    Either we get the possibility of a woman in office or we will get to see women put back in there biblical place the home and bed only as the bible tells us so!!!The bible does not give women any rights but one serve your man, MAN gave women rights chose your path a religious leader to kill all our kids trying to convert all those Godless heathens as Tony Blair would say "Look at me I did what King Richard could not do I finished the crusades" get biblicaly correct or elect a president who will give us some of the rights we lost to Bush!

    • Posted By: knewanda @ 12/26/2007 6:04:58 PM

      Ok, I have never posted any response to the blathering I read on here, however, this really crosses the line. "Pink," you need to read your bible... it does NOT reduce womens' rights! Women in the bible were leaders in the early church (Paul mentions several of them in his letters). Read Proverbs 31! Women were crucial to the running of their households and participated in commerce. We are NOT 2nd class citizens according to the Word of God! In fact it is MAN who missinterprets and missrepresents that Word and places women beneath himself. If you want to read a "scripture" that subjigates women, try the Koran... When last I checked, women in our "Christian Nation" fare far better then those in Musslim countries where rights are concerned. I haven't heard about any being executed by the state for adultry or put in prison for being rapped (note recent news about this one).

      As for Hillary, she lost my vote when her hubby was in office...

  • Posted By: sweetwilli @ 12/26/2007 5:54:49 PM

    She's a crook like Bush. www.truthabouthillary08.blogspot.com

  • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 5:33:43 PM

    Sparky in all seriousness and being a military man do you think hilary (being a woman) can take emotion out of a decision? I think that there are many things a woman would be more reluctant to do than a man, and they use more emotions when making decisions. Do you not believe any of the stories of how the clintons treated their secret service detail and their disgust for the military. Those Arkansas state troopers are not republicans.

  • Posted By: Anti Clinton Criminal INC @ 12/26/2007 5:29:45 PM

    Come on being a Ashtray and lamp thrower at Bill Clinton during Monica GATE does not qualify unless he killed him, she couldn't even qualify to be a dog catcher ! I am mad what has she ever done that makes her even in the running, she has no business expercience, abosolutely no Military experience except helping Bill sell milityary secrets to China, Treason is not a good thing, she has never ben a leader in the Senate, she never acomplished on record in the Senate so no leadership, oh I forgot she ended the IRA conflict ya right she wasn't even apart of, she is the most unqualified to be president or even a human being. So why would we vote for her to run the greatest country in the world I think she has a lot of experience in Murder,/Arkanside Vince foster Ron Brown and his secratary ,100 kids in \Waco, the list could fill 2 pages, she is acomplished congential liar thats no a good trait, Some poll say she is the most admired women in Amerika, only 10% say that 90% don't think much of her, if the poll is scewed by 9% how does of zero experiience other than in the Clinton Criminality get off saying she has exprience ! since the Clintons only got 43% in a general election twice, and Bush got 48.9% and 52.9 which was the largest margin in modern times, so 57% said no twice, but Perot was a criminal factor the Clintons gave him huge government contracts for his help in the stealing the elections! I have not found one bit of experience Hillary has that even qualifies her to be a bad 4th rate ambulace chasing washed out old ugly fatt butt little worm of a women who never answers any diresct questions! God she is just a lump of Black Coal staining our great countries politics!

  • Posted By: bddc33 @ 12/26/2007 3:40:35 PM

    I'll argue with you anyday sparky716. I'm highly educated and politically involved. I voted for Bush, and I don't feel stupid or ignorant. In 2000 I could've voted for a tree hugger that would have done NOTHING to fight extremism. In 2004 my other option was someone who couldn't make up his own mind, and stand for something. I don't believe we went to Iraq for the stated reasons, but I also know we are ALREADY OVER THERE. GET OVER IT. As an American, we must face and fix our mistakes or we will be reduced to nothing more then a sub-par wannabe superpower. We owe it to ourselves and to the Iraqi's to own up to what we started. I find it hilarious that Cutting and Running is an actual strategy for the democrats. We need to find an acceptable way out, and that is the only answer. Oh, and Sparky, I can see through your rant that BN2WIN's statement would be correct. Quit complaining, and get over it. I'm sure it's easy for you to say all that from your comfortable home. Oh, and I am also not chicken. If you would like a picture of the scar of the bullet hole left in my chest, give me your email.

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 4:49:35 PM

      so you voted for a boy BUSH that hid bin alabama instead or fighting in nam as Mr kerry did and you also voted for bush and old dick who was to bust to go fight over al gore who went to nam twice to fight for his country..i served in the US NAVY from 1963 to 1967 so your no more Amsrican tham me...i joined did you?and if your so hip om fighting dont you think we need to attack China Korea and all the other countrys you dont like.....if your of fighting age bthe join and go fight...just like nam when we leave iraq they will go back to the way they were and just like nam all our boys will have diede for nothing...is nam free today?

  • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 1:05:45 PM

    After reading this it proves that slick willy is the worst president ever, and his wife will stop at nothing for power. She has allowed herself to be prostituted for power, why would anyone want that for a president?
    Sparky you are just plain ignorant evident by your ability to spell and reason.

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/26/2007 1:29:11 PM

      if you had to have the ability to spell then we would not have bush as ....i cant say president because like you he's a jerk just because you can spell does'nt mean your not ignorant because if you think this country is better off after 8 years of bush your not only ignorant but stupid as well...it want be long and you can say Madam President...i'll be you never served your country you most likely a chicken hawk like your stupid and ignorant bush dick ...you can't say anything bad about Hillary becauseall you know is what old stupid has told you ....you voted for the idoit i'll bet so who's the stupid oneyour like all the repugs attack attack but no idea of whats best for our country

      • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 4:07:26 PM

        you have said enough any intelligent person reading these comments would not get to the second sentence of your posts before dismissing you as a fool

  • Posted By: bddc33 @ 12/26/2007 3:38:04 PM

    I'll argue with you anyday sparky716. I'm highly educated and politically involved. I voted for Bush, and I don't feel stupid or ignorant. In 2000 I could've voted for a tree hugger that would have done NOTHING to fight extremism. In 2004 my other option was someone who couldn't make up his own mind, and stand for something. I don't believe we went to Iraq for the stated reasons, but I also know we are ALREADY OVER THERE. GET OVER IT. As an American, we must face and fix our mistakes or we will be reduced to nothing more then a sub-par wannabe superpower. We owe it to ourselves and to the Iraqi's to own up to what we started. I find it hilarious that Cutting and Running is an actual strategy for the democrats. We need to find an acceptable way out, and that is the only answer. Oh, and Sparky, I can see through your rant that BN2WIN's statement would be correct. Quit complaining, and get over it. I'm sure it's easy for you to say all that from your comfortable home. Oh, and I am also not chicken. If you would like a picture of the scar of the bullet hole left in my chest, give me your email.

  • Posted By: bn2win @ 12/26/2007 1:07:23 PM

    Ignorance abound throughout America is extremely evident here.

  • Posted By: dchappy@hotmail.com @ 12/26/2007 9:50:24 AM

    Hey! eddiewhere very well said, how much did you charge obama to write this stupid note for people to see. itis better to beg standing on the street then to stab back the national interest by spreading nonsense all around Mr. go and do it in your original land israel. D C HAPPY

  • Posted By: PatriotForObama @ 12/26/2007 4:02:19 AM

    No more Clintons please!

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/26/2007 3:29:40 AM

    . Hillary Clinton voting for the war, and a blank check for the war is against everything she stands for, unfortunately there are forces that control individuals in Washinton that is beyond our realm. Inotherwords if a politician is in trouble they will go against their own principles just to save themselves. This is why I say Hillary should be appointed to a health and childrens welfare committee under an Obama presidency. That way she will not be susceptible to scandal. The Clintons have shown time and time again that they are too political. Their decisions are based on what's best for them first and the people second. Hillary Clinton laughs at the fact that there are individuals who can tell her what kind of president to be. If going negative assists her she will do it, if going family helps her she will do it. These individuals in Washington have been programed to adhere to the will of special interst lobbyists. Why do you think we fund Israeli security forces. The politician is guided by their own narrow interests. This the conclusion I have come too over the holidays. The democrats that have been in the Senate and in the Congress for the last 6 years and have done nothing on a national scale. Edwards has done nothing as a Senator, his voting record indicates he has gone along with whatever the mainstream has wanted him to do, Clinton has done what ever the mainstream has wanted her to do, and pelosi has been playing games and is getting schooled everyday. I have no choice but to vote for OBAMA, what other hope is exist. We need someone who is not programmed and that can bring unity. Obama has not flip floped, he has run a steady and unified campaign even when he was down in the polls, his campaign has stayed focused and positive. Clinton went from negative, to bashing, to family . What is going it is like a script has been written everyday and Hillary is just the actor reading the lines. Like I said there are those that think they are far more experienced and knowledgable than us, but when you look at their individual record it is as if they never had experience. We are stupid and this is why our candidates act stupid. Remember our candidates are a reflection of our society, do what you half to do to get ahead even if it means going against your principles. Experience.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/26/2007 3:09:55 AM

    This has turned into a joke. When will we as Americans realize we do not control our government. They have their own agenda. Karl Rove and George Bush are laughing. Experience. Experience. Who needs experience when you control the world's capital. Who needs experience when you own both parties.

  • Posted By: WARLOCK @ 12/26/2007 2:23:39 AM

    Being first lady dose not qualifiy you to be president of the United States. That's like saying I have a back stage pass to a Funkadelic concert and qualifies me to play bass guitar for their summer tour. She is telling voters that she is qualified because of her time in the White House. Let's look at that a moment. Somolia, USS Cole, Kenya, a failed Iraq policy, Whitewater, Lewinsky, First World Trade Center bombing, Bin Laden was not important, and if I remember health care was not the greatest then. Oh I forgot how effective was just say no? I would say that covers it. What makes her say she's qualified? Or did I miss something?

  • Posted By: orgone @ 12/25/2007 7:52:16 PM

    I have always been a libertarian, but when it comes to either Clinton, I am a member of a vast right wing conspiracy. I rang the bells when Bill was inagurated and had high hopes for his presidency, but through all of the lies ("I did not have sex with that woman") and deception ("interpretation of what is is") and the long list of friends and body guards that wound up dead it was hard for me to believe that he was not put in prison.How are we to trust the thief of Whitewaterand the only person to have benefited from the death of JFK Jr?

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/26/2007 12:22:47 AM

      I UNDERSTAND THE" I DID NOT SLEEP WITH THAT WOMAN" BUT WHITEWATER, GET A GRIP THEY INVESTED IN A COMPANY, IT FAILED,NO THEFT, THEY PUT IT IN THERE TAXES WHERE IT BELONGS, AS A LOSS. RIGHT WHERE EVERYONE ELSE DID WHEN THERE INVESTMENTS GO BAD, ASK A ENRON EMPLOYEE, OR STOCK HOLDER, OH YA I FORGOT BUSH CASH OUT WITH A MEGA PROFIT, WITH THE HELP FROM KEN LEIGH, AND WHEN YOUR FRIENDS AND BODY GUARDS END UP DEAD, IT'S MOST LIKELY C.I.A. OR B.S. PICK SOME INITIALS, AND LEAVING A SURPLUSS, AND NO DEFICIT WAS THE WORST THING HE COULD HAVE EVER DONE, HOW DARE HE! NO IM NOT MIND SET YET, BUT FOR ME TO VOTE GOP EVER, WOULD REQUIRE A MENTAL ILLNESS, AND A MAJOR ONE AT THAT. ITS TIME TO TAKE BACK WHAT IS OURS-THIS COUNTRY, AND MAKE MADE IN AMERICA, A THING OF THE FURTURE, AND LEAD THE WORLD BY EXAMPLE, NOT BY THREAT!

  • Posted By: julianbook @ 12/25/2007 6:09:29 PM

    The root of our problems is that Clinton did not nail Bin Laden when he could. The first World Trade attack came in 1993 under Clinton. When you try to bring down 2 buildings with 50,000 people in them, that's like trying to attack America with a nuclear bomb. The weak Clinton presidency allowed Bin Laden to plan the second attack. Bush would not have had an excuse for Iraq if Bin Laden hadn't brought down the towers in 2001. The wars are bankrupting the economy, and the subprime crisis is adding to it globally. Clinton is the worst president we've ever had - a compulsive liar and incompetent. Hillary is a transparent attempt by Bill to spit on the American constitution and get a third or fourth term. The Clintons disgraced the presidency and caused the democrats to lose the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court. Hillary's healtcare was a flop - despite 8 years of Bill Clinton. Obama has shown greater wisdom and judgement on foreign policy issues than all the other candidates combined. Hillary, Edwards and Biden voted for the Iraq war - simply parroting what Bush told them. Obama not only spoke out against it, but was able to see where it would take us. He alone identified, in 2002, the quagmire and costs that would result - both in lives and finances. Again, with Iran, Hillary rushed to vote for an unnecessary hostile saber-rattling bill - something that Bush admitted could be pushing us into World War III. Note that Bush's WW III is no joke. It would mean destruction of planet earth - as it would be nuclear, and Russia would not be on our side. Putin has said that. Hillary is completely clueless, and just blows with the wind, flip-flopping with no deep insights like Obama. We need a brilliant president who can guide us through unprecedented danger. Obama's the man. Nobody else even comes close.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/26/2007 12:00:38 AM

      YOU KNOW IT GETTING OLD "THEY VOTED FOR THE WAR" WITH THE INTELL THEY HAD AT THE TIME [WHICH WAS ALL BULL] I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR WAR IF IM BEING TOLD BY MY PRESIDENT THAT THIS GUY COULD ATTACK AT ANY TIME AS HE HAS WHATS NEEDED TO DO SO AND SO WOULD YOU AT THE TIME NO ONE HAD A CLUE THIS GUY IN THE WH LIES DECIEVES AND MANY MORE ADJECTIVES AS WE DO TODAY. SO PLEASE ITS NOT A FACTOR WHAT IS A FACTOR IS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO BORDER TO BORDER COAST TO COAST AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE?? PLUS MORE BUT YOU GET THE POINT IT GOT OLD LAST ELECTION IT'S STILL OLD TODAY YA THEY VOTE FOR FUNDING BUT JUST CAUSE YOU DON'T SUPPORT THE WAR, DON'T MEAN WE WE DON'T SUPPORT AND FUND THE TROOPS, THIS WE DO, BTW OBAMA IS NOT BAD AT LEAST HE HAS PROVED BY HIS PLATFORM HE LISTENS TO OTHERS WHO KNOW MORE THAN HE BUT HE LISTENS AND LEARNS FAST!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/25/2007 7:10:45 PM

      but he did while bush wasw in charge(he's no president by a long shot) but the fact is in 8 years bush could not find him because he was to busy trying to get the man that tryed to kill his daddy...the rest he could care less about but he did get the man who tryed to kill hid dad as far as obama goes ive got as much experence as he does....we dont need any more on the job trainimg.and we need a president who works for ALL americans (black white yellow red brown ) and dont owe any thing to oprah oj and the likes

      • Posted By: julianbook @ 12/25/2007 7:34:26 PM

        Obama has said that Bin Laden is the issue - and even said that he would go after him in Pakistan if necessary. Hillary and the others voted for the Bush Iraq war, while Obama spoke out against it. So who is more qualified to make the important decisions? Obama is a uniter with support from blacks, whites, democrats, republicans - everybody with a brain. He is not about race, nor is Oprah - and I don't know what oj has to do with this. Seems like you're a racist sparky716.

        • Posted By: sparky716 @ 12/25/2007 7:53:58 PM

          dont think so when jesse jackson ran for president (in the 80's i think) i voted for him in the texas primary and would love to vote for obama but he does'nt have the experence to be president(may be in 8 years as Hillary's vice president) but not now....we can't afford to train another person bush could getr it in 8 years....we need experence NOW you should watch out who you call a racist...have you ever voted for a black person (I have) or are a big fat white repug right wing red neck that thinks only whites can rule....wasn't President often called the first black President Sparky716

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