Alone, Afraid, In the Company of Men Dreaming of Death

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  • Posted By: sperry2256 @ 01/03/2008 8:15:13 AM

    Here is a little reality for all of the deamers out there: There will never be world peace!!!!! There will always be someone with a cause fighting for what they believe in. We can judge, and be judgmental for what they believe in. We as americans believe in God, Santa Clause, and that nothing can touch us. No one can take our beliefs away just like we can't take theirs. That is a way of life drilled into their heads as babies, just as your parents did to you,and you do to your children, but where did your beliefs come from? My point : this has always been around even when I was a child wishing,hoping, and praying will never stop these people, or their way of life . I wish all of our troups were back home safe and sound in Americas fantasy land.

  • Posted By: sperry2256 @ 01/03/2008 7:56:54 AM

    We can all judge and be judgmental on what need to happen with these people and how they should live their lives, but in truth to all of you. This is the way it is!!!!! That's like telling you not to believe in Christianity, Santa Clause, or whatvere else as Americans we believe in. I say lets focus on what needs to be done in our own country, lets take care of our own people. The suicide bombers have always been around and will be around after were all dead and buried. You want world peace look to your own back yard first!!!!!

  • Posted By: jdormi @ 01/03/2008 7:13:56 AM

    What would make a young man kill him self is there lives that bad that death is the only way to peace. The young men and women that are killing themselves are suppose to be our future, the people that are part of our legacy is what we have taught them how to kill. They need to learn that the rest of the world are in pursuit of peace, the people that are represented by there governments are not like how they are represented. Only a sick minded person wants death and destruction, life is too precious to throw it away by just a push of a button.

    John D. (USA)

  • Posted By: jdormi @ 01/03/2008 7:13:04 AM

    What would make a young man kill him self is there lives that bad that death is the only way to peace. The young men and women that are killing themselves are suppose to be our future, the people that are part of our legacy is what we have taught them how to kill. They need to learn that the rest of the world are in pursuit of peace, the people that are represented by there governments are not like how they are represented. Only a sick minded person wants death and destruction, life is too precious to throw it away by just a push of a button.

    John D. (USA)

  • Posted By: Pezeshk @ 01/03/2008 6:44:26 AM

    I think the only way to prevent the radical islamic events, is to increase the quality of life in this parth of the world. where poverty, poor hygiene and poor sanitation is a fact. The nature of all humans are the same, the difference is only because of the education and civility. I am a medical doctor in the east of Iran, and I visit these people everyday as my patients. They are human, they need education.

  • Posted By: vigaemmanuel @ 01/03/2008 6:02:36 AM

    This form of war fare is totally unacceptrable to humanity and to God the crator that you think you are worshiing so much. let those who are training thiese youngmen for such reasons stop it because they are totally selfish.

    Viga Emmanuel(Uganda)

  • Posted By: domanulat @ 01/03/2008 4:38:35 AM

    Those men were mislead. They are waisting thier lives and to the ruins of other lives because of thier lack of proper judgement and lack of wisdom. The true God , the creator of Heaven and Earth forbids these wrongdoings. I pity for them , being a victim of those who wish to make living on earth miserable and like hell. When we can live happily peacefully and enjoy the bounty of God. They do not have the spirit of
    forgiving , love and caring and healing just the true God Allah/Jehova wants for his people on earth.

    This killing, murder , hatred even those who has not done THEM wrong, the innocent children and women and other men whom they even not know and become a victim of thier gruesome act is of the devil not from God ORDAIN.


    They were deceived of thinking that killing many to include themselves has a good purpose in life and even after death . This is never true. Why would they not follow thier conscience AND USE THIER ANALYSIS that killing is bad and refrain from doing so. If those head terorrist order them to do so, why not tell them that they are a fool and stop making lives of other miserable. Could they not live peacefully and be productive to the society not a nuisance and a terror. When are they going to learn the right way? Not gruesome foolishness that victimize others and many. I grieve for IRAQ country and people and the allied forces who died for them for the seek of peace and order and sanity to the inhabitants of IRAQ. Those money in bilion/trillion dollors should have gone to those develoiping country who are so poor even to feed
    themselves and want to live and enjoy life to the fullest not for those who love ruins and chaos and deaths.
    Many handsome young men who could have a bright and meaningfuyl future from countries in Europe ,Australia and America were ruined because of these some people in Iraq who has been misguided and murderous type in the name of thier religion. I wish for peace and love for Irq people and country. And those terrorist, please this is enoughkilling and murdering your ppeople and other people from other country who wish to teach you that life with God and family and country men are precious . Not to drastically buthcher them with your bombs and other firearms. Please learn to love and care to preserve lives not to waste them. Remember the tru God never approves your wrongdoing for kiling people is wrong!

    God has never want you to kill. Stop deceiving your people and young men and women to ruin the lives of other s in the name of religion.

    DEDITHA
    FROM THE PHILIPPINES

  • Posted By: dmrosalejos @ 01/03/2008 4:30:03 AM

    Those men were mislead. They are waisting thier lives and to the ruins of other lives because of thier lack of proper judgement and lack of wisdom. The true God , the creator of Heaven and Earth forbids these wrongdoings. I pity for them , being a victim of those who wish to make living on earth miserable and like hell. When we can live happily peacefully and enjoy the bounty of God. They do not have the spirit of
    forgiving , love and caring and healing just the true God Allah/Jehova wants for his people on earth.

    This killing, murder , hatred even those who has not done THEM wrong, the innocent children and women and other men whom they even not know and become a victim of thier gruesome act is of the devil not from God ORDAIN.


    They were deceived of thinking that killing many to include themselves has a good purpose in life and even after death . This is never true. Why would they not follow thier conscience AND USE THIER ANALYSIS that killing is bad and refrain from doing so. If those head terorrist order them to do so, why not tell them that they are a fool and stop making lives of other miserable. Could they not live peacefully and be productive to the society not a nuisance and a terror. When are they going to learn the right way? Not gruesome foolishness that victimize others and many. I grieve for IRAQ country and people and the allied forces who died for them for the seek of peace and order and sanity to the inhabitants of IRAQ. Those money in bilion/trillion dollors should have gone to those develoiping country who are so poor even to feed
    themselves and want to live and enjoy life to the fullest not for those who love ruins and chaos and deaths.
    Many handsome young men who could have a bright and meaningfuyl future from countries in Europe ,Australia and America were ruined because of these some people in Iraq who has been misguided and murderous type in the name of thier religion. I wish for peace and love for Irq people and country. And those terrorist, please this is enoughkilling and murdering your ppeople and other people from other country who wish to teach you that life with God and family and country men are precious . Not to drastically buthcher them with your bombs and other firearms. Please learn to love and care to preserve lives not to waste them. Remember the tru God never approves your wrongdoing for kiling people is wrong!

    God has never want you to kill. Stop deceiving your people and young men and women to ruin the lives of other s in the name of religion.

    DEDITHA
    FROM THE PHILIPPINES

  • Posted By: xhidarta @ 12/31/2007 3:24:25 PM

    In reference to Crymeariver, I completely agree with the response given by dh1272.
    I respect and salute the sacrifices made by our servicemen and women. I even cry for them.
    But I beg to disagree on two counts. One, his statement that they are fighting for the freedom that we are
    enjoying. It's OK for you guys to drink the Army Issued Kool-Aide, after all you've got to have some kind of higher purpose to risk your skin or else, whou wouldn't go insane?. Here, in the civilian society, we tend to
    have different ideas you know. Which is the basis for Democracy mind you. And no, here's my Second point, we don't need or have to leave the country for that. We don't have to agree with the president or you for that matter. Back when we still had some functioning Democracy and a real two party system, this president would have been impeached. This has been and is a Resource War, an Empire War, a War of Agression and a total Fxxup at that. Freedom my ass. Now, you are entitled to your opininon and I am entitled to mine, furthermore, I don't have to kneel down at the throne of the military or military personnel like yourself, like some kind of 21st century Moloch and relinquish my will, my mind and my freedom of thought.

    • Posted By: crymeariver @ 12/31/2007 4:27:57 PM

      You are right. You do have a right to your opinions, they are like a$$holes everyone has one. As to your points, first, the freedoms we fight for over there are the same as here. What would you prefer, we sit around and hold hands with terrorists and sing a little coum- by -ya? You think that what happens over there does not affect you here? To loose there, would be to loose here. Bin Laden wants America to bend to his Islam. I am glad to know that you are not or ever will be entertaining the idea of going into the military. I will sleep easy tonight. The very idea that we were going over there (Iraq or Afghanistan) and win over night in a country that has been in strife for say, I don???t know, 3,000 years that things would change as quickly. Saddam was a supporter of terrorism, hell, even Bin Laden was happy to see him go. I like to call Iraq a war we should have finished the first time (Desert Storm). See, you just cannot use a plastic bag for a condom. Yes, Bush could have???, should have???, but he didn???t, and neither did those individuals in Congress. Last I checked he needed their approval( to go to war ).So don???t just put this all in his lap when there are so many more laps you could put it in as well. According to the OPEC the countries that produce the most oil are in order Russia, Saudi Arabia, the USA, Iran and China. Nope, do not see Iraq as a top oil producer. Yes they have it, but so do others.

      • Posted By: dh1272 @ 12/31/2007 10:01:57 PM

        crymeariver: My friend, it is not just an opinion that Iraq did not have anything to do with 9-ll, read man !!! even Bush has quit saying that, the republican party has quit touting Husseins involvement in terrorism. Terrorism was not a problem in Iraq until we went over there and gave the terrorists reasons to go there, and the people of Iraq to join them, and arm themselves against an OCCUPIER (the US) This has been proven over and over again. Unless you just close your eyes to the facts, there is no other choice but to come to the truth, that Iraq was not a necessary part of war on terrorism. Its got terrorists there because we are OCCUPYING their country, we destroyed their country, Bush and those who agreed and pushed for this diversion from where the real terrorist problem was in Afghanistan had other motives (OUR OIL INTERESTS IN THE REGION and AN UNREALISTIC UTOPIAN VIEW OF HOW EASY IT WOULD BE TO PUT DEMOCRACY IN A PLACE WHERE AS YOU SAY THEY HAVE FOUGHT FOR 3000 years) You know its totally against democratic principles to hold at gun at someones head and tell the guy "YOU WANT DEMOCRACY DON'T YOU !!!!!! (Thats basicly what Bush and company did to the Iraqi's) Di you read the news just yesterday that Bush vetoed the part of war funding having to do with a Congress/Senate mandate to place a war priority on winning against the taliban and capturing or killing Bin Ladin in Afghanistan? This administrations priorities are constantly off the mark. You know its one thing for the cowboy tactics to be used in Texas but quite another to use them out in the world that surrounds us. The rest of the world doesn't buy into these imperial tactics same as the majority of the US citizens who have now seen this epic error of going to war in IRAQ for what it is a tragedy, a crime !!!!!! primarily against the Iraqi people who have suffered so much, but just as importantly or more so against you as a soldier, and those who lost their lives and limbs. Man this is rough to have to face, I am sure, but we Americans and you fine soldiers have been "SNOOKERED" into the worst failed fiasco and waste of lives and money ever purpotraited on the US by any previous president. (only Vietnam comes close in money, but is worse in the cost of lives) US citizens and its soldery must not continue to allow its leaders to put them through anymore such wars, you see this is why the public must cry out against this, we cannot allow our leaders unquestioning following in such acts as this war. Man I can't say it enough how badly I feel for you and your fellow soldiers predicament. (my son is in the services too) Take care, and may this New Year bring about some rectifying of this fiasco for our world. I wish you well !!!! Dennis

        • Posted By: crymeariver @ 01/01/2008 2:53:22 PM

          You should also read the response above. http://newsbusters.org/node/7335. You to take care , and my thoughts are with you and your son. I also know that all you want is for your son to come home safe and healthy. I have a brother in the Army ( stateside) and a cousin serving in Iraq right now.But, I will stay true to them and my friends and their commitment.

  • Posted By: xhidarta @ 01/01/2008 1:49:27 AM

    You're right. Everyone has an *** and you're not different, I can tell because you keep pulling stuff out of yours. What I would prefer is not to sing cumba-ya with the terrorists but to not have gone in the first place. But the Decider thought otherwise and the Dems went happily along. These gang of draftdodgers and chickenhawks manufactured the intel to fit their war plans to be carried with somebody else's blood and treasure. We might as well have invaded Canada for that matter. Seventeen of the hijackers were Saudis as are most of the terrorists infiltrating now into Iraq. You said it yourself, Osama was happy to see Saddam go, because Saddam would not let any any terrorist set foot on Iraq, it was a direct threat to his power. Nor was Saddam involved in terrorist activities, nor was Iraq ever a threat to the USA.
    My 2nd best preference would have been to see this war led competently but how could've been?
    The chimp never had a job in his life, went AWOL on the Guard, bankrupted every company he was given, and is doing the same to this country. And put us exactly where Osama wanted us: bleeding treasury and helping recruit more suicide bombers. All the reasons you give to explain this war, only validate my point that
    we should't have ever fought it. The British tried it for some 34 years before and they failed. As all wars of occupation fail, particularly in a region none other than that one with 5000 years of strife. So, if there ever was an oportunity control this country it was squandered. It's over, it's lost. Unless the American people is willing to support 50 or 100 years of spilled guts and billions down the sewer. Even if we were, we can't. There ain't no money to follow up. The moment China decides to dump the US T Bonds this war ends tomorrow. But they won't, why would they? When your enemy is destroying himself, let him.
    Last, while Saudi Arabia remains the top producer and exporter, Iraq's production is nothing to sneer at.
    Even that is not the core issue. The issue is the whole region, including Saudi Arabia, where half of the world oil resereves are and the control that the Neocons wanted to apply over it, by stabilizing Iraq and establishing permanent basis there, as they are doing anyway including the biggest embassy on earth.
    Not much of a sign of an army that came to liberate and plans to leave...
    Anyway, my mention of the oil was an oversimplification, it's more complex than that but it remains the most prominent reason for this war. And if we needed any more confirmation Alan Greenspan said so among others.
    I strongly reccomend that you google Pat's Birthday letter, the letter that Kevin Tillman wrote on behalf of his
    murdered brother.
    See if you can rebut that statement froom one of your own.

    • Posted By: crymeariver @ 01/01/2008 2:44:32 PM

      Perhaps you should look up the following web site http://newsbusters.org/node/7335. Saddam Hussein-The Threat, by Free Stinker dated September 1 2006. It will be enlightening for you.

  • Posted By: lilinha @ 01/01/2008 2:37:21 PM

    I can imagine is a ot of bad feel what you felt. We need really pray to everybory knows the True and finish all war and do this, will haven't men giving their llifes to die by a religion and killing many people!

  • Posted By: xhidarta @ 12/31/2007 3:09:36 PM

    In reference to Crymeariver,

  • Posted By: dh1272 @ 12/31/2007 12:13:35 PM

    Crymeariver, I can completely understand how you would feel about this article, We are in your debt, and of those who you metioned that died. I know you don't seek simpathy, but I extend a hearty handshake, and warm embrace and the hope that in spite of your bad experiences, your life will take on success because you deserve it and have worked hard I am sure. I don't see here the article you responded to, but I must say that Bush war misdirection to Iraq which it has been proven over and over to have had nothing to do with 9-ll , and has put the military in a hell of a position of having to back his lies for a war about OIL, so the servicemen must buy into it for sanities sake. You like many of your fellow servicemen will have no choice but to come to the conclusion with the facts that Bush has committed a terrible crime, by his lieing our troops into a war with Iraq for all the wrong reasons. Afghanistan was where we should have been all along. All his war in Iraq did was hand the terrorists a recruiting windfall by occupying and destroying the lives of so many innocent Iraqies, and creating the opportunity for a civil war there. WE HAVE WON NOTHING THERE !!!! Instead of going there and wasting trillions of dollars and killing and maiming 10's of thousands of our fine young men and wemon, that money should have been spent on technology to get us off of oil and out of the business of the middle east which is exactly why we have these terrorists so hell bent on killing us. These facts are easily attainable, servicemen should for their sanities sake join the 1000's of "SERVICEMEN AGAINST THE WAR" and confront with the truth bush and his gang of criminal war thugs, who have enriched their cohorts, and done so much damage in our world.

  • Posted By: Markwri @ 12/30/2007 4:42:54 PM

    Whole deal boils down to LACK of: Opportunity, thus Other choices.
    Face it in Afghan, the poor and the common will either be in the poppy business ( heroin trade ), or grow up to end up, as a weapon for the supposed religious cause which will supposedly help right the current in equities.
    Over time Btw, it WILL work too.
    Basically because after anough suicide attacks, the groups being attacked will sooner or later see that there are NO other real opportunities thus CHOICES for the suicidal individuals who are the weapons for the opposite warring factions.

  • Posted By: JosepBaileyOne @ 12/26/2007 10:02:41 PM

    This short piece shows the reality of this issue that should be termed Homicid Bombings instead of suicide bombings. What are these human beings doing thinking that all there is to life is to kill, maim, and destroy? Why is it that no one can say that Islam itself is part of this problem because without Islam there would be no paradise of 70 virgins to inspire them to kill, maim, and destroy. This area of the world is as backwards as it gets and will stay that way for decades more due to the illiteracy, ignorance, and lack of desire to achieve and accomplish something productive in this world and their life. It may be that the time has come to evacuate all of those who want a better life and blockade those who want to stay and let them live in their 8th century dream world.

    • Posted By: Al Mumin @ 12/29/2007 6:21:04 PM

      JosepBailyOne please tell me where in the Quran or the Hadith it say's you will get 70 virigins for a suicide bombing or killing a non believer? If you don't know what you are talking about about then don't post things of that nature because they're not true and you make the ignorant dumber just by posting that ill informed nonsense.

      • Posted By: crymeariver @ 12/30/2007 4:41:46 PM

        What of the rewards in paradise? The Islamic paradise is described in great sensual detail in the Koran and the Traditions; for instance, Koran sura 56 verses 12 -40 ; sura 55 verses 54-56 ; sura 76 verses 12-22. I shall quote the celebrated Penguin translation by NJ Dawood of sura 56 verses 12- 39: "They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds... We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand..."
        First, there is no mention anywhere in the Koran of the actual number of virgins available in paradise, and second, the dark-eyed damsels are available for all Muslims, not just martyrs. It is in the Islamic Traditions that we find the 72 virgins in heaven specified: in a Hadith (Islamic Tradition) collected by Al-Tirmidhi (died 892 CE [common era*]) in the Book of Sunan (volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah [Prophet Muhammad], chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise, (Hadith 2687). The same hadith is also quoted by Ibn Kathir (died 1373 CE ) in his Koranic commentary (Tafsir) of Surah Al-Rahman (55), verse 72: "The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a [Yemen]'."
        Maybe you should take your own advice?

  • Posted By: Markwri @ 12/29/2007 9:35:48 PM

    Perhaps when they all ( including the USA, Btw ) once again can see for a while that supposed cause, supposed religion, torture and persecution have NOTHING to do with either allah or christ, and that revenge (including the USA, Btw ) and arrogance have Nothing to do with either allah or christ,
    THEN things will start to get better.

  • Posted By: Mosed @ 12/29/2007 7:19:27 PM

    In the magazine, there was an incredible photograph that accompanied this article. Kudos to both the photographer and the photo editor.

  • Posted By: Al Mumin @ 12/29/2007 5:10:50 PM

    Fat Joey..Why would the feydayeen stage a phone call? Who was there for the officer to impress? See I think thats the problem with Americans today they are so quick to think that everybody thinks or should think like them. When the majority of the world don't pretend when it comes to their belifes. I think that the artical was beautiful, scary for the reporter but beautiful for the believer. Afganistan has a history of defending their belifes even against the mightiest of armys. " Remember they're the reason the Cold War ended." Somebody may of gave them some weapons (Stingers) but AllahSWT gave them heart, faith, and patience.

    Sami Yousafzai I think your report was beautiful keep up the good work.

  • Posted By: hollandsy @ 12/27/2007 11:15:46 PM

    To the person who was disgusted by the journalists lack of response or action to stop the bombers...what would you have done? You are unarmed in a small dwelling with three men who are wearing explosive vests...Who can you call? There is no 911 or swat team readily available. Unfortunately, this journalist had no choice. He attempted to get a story from these men that could have given insight to the methods used to recruit suicide bombers, he could have asked the question we all want to ask...Why?
    Even if he had walked the hour and driven the rest of the way to civilization, what could he tell authorities? Three guys wearing turban like scarves ran out to the desert wearing bombs....talk about a needle in a haystack. Had he tried anything, he most likely would have been killed and then they would have left anyway. His story never to be told. Future stories would be silenced. What good would that accomplish? We do not know his situation or his entire story. How could we convict him of murder without more compelling evidence? In this wonderful country, we are allowed a trial by jury, we are allowed to defend ourselves and our actions before being judged. That is one of those great freedoms that our country's men and women are out there defending.
    Your husband is a brave man who works in a warzone. Everyday, he risks his life just by being there. Just as this journalist risked his life for the story. His job may not be as dangerous as your husband's, whatever it may be, but he still faces risk. If your husband is military or one of the many law enforcement personnel there to help train local officials, my thanks to him for his job. My prayers are with you for your sacrifice being away from him. Worry for his safety must be difficult. I pray he returns safely and soon to you.

    • Posted By: sammylicks @ 12/29/2007 4:58:18 PM

      It seems to me that this meeting was pre-arranged, the Taliban did not just grab him and tell him to write an atricle. The journalist could have informed the miltary or worn a tracking device. Journalists expect to be protected by the US Military yet they feel it is alright to interview someone planing to murder soliders. In America if I knew someone was going to murder you and I did nothing I could (and most likely would) be charged with a crime. How is this different?

    • Posted By: hollandsy @ 12/27/2007 11:35:47 PM

      I also found myself waiting for the rest of the story...too bad the journalist did not follow up more or ask more questions of those left behind. If he really faced three suicide bombers...I am hoping his story is true. For the sake and reputation of all the other journalists over there who are doing their jobs and taking risks to get the stories to send home.

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