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  • Posted By: observer101 @ 12/27/2007 7:41:32 PM

    Whether the kids provoked an attack or the tiger got out and hunted them down, isnt the point. A human life was at stake. The tiger does have a right to live, but once it becomes a maneater then all bets are off if they are in the process of killing one. Im sure if a NORMAL human being with half a brain saw another person being mauled, instincts would kick in and they would take immediate measures and neutralize the threat. Since the police dont make it a point to walk around w/ tranq guns they used the next best thing to stop the cat right then and there. On the other hand they should have tazed the thing. they taze everything else.

    • Posted By: tnmimi @ 12/28/2007 4:44:42 PM

      The boy was not EATEN. He was killed. Therfore, the tiger was not a MANEATER!!! I also find it incredibly curious that this tiger had been caged for how many years and never did this before but chose this these three "men" (and I use the term loosely) to attack? Something is wrong here. Let's do an autopsy on the cat and see what damage is done to it. As far as a Human Being" haven been killed, since when are we so superior to our cousins, the animals? I, for one, am thinking mankind is the dumbest creature on earth. We cannot even maintain our own environment without mucking it up. Whose the smart one? Us or the animals who could and will be living without humans again (because we killed ourselves by our greed and stupidity and pollution)

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:34:10 PM

      Who says that the human life is more important than an animals? Maybe if humans weren't so selfish and greedy with those types of beliefs, we wouldn't be driving so many animals, including tigers to extinction. If humans would simply respect nature, we'd all be fine. Personally, I value that rare cat more than the hoodlums that tormented it to death.

    • Posted By: WeGotPapi @ 12/27/2007 10:45:59 PM

      you're right...the tiger IS a maneater. And MAN put a wild animal in a cage, where he has no business being. They should have shot the idiots who put the animal in captivity in the first place. Root of problem disposed of. Period.

  • Posted By: ceanf9 @ 12/28/2007 2:13:27 PM

    this incident is entirely a result of the zoo's negligence. the 20 ft moat had no water in it and the 18 ft fence turned out to only be 12 ft, well below the international recommendation of at least 16ft for large cats such as tigers. the reports that the victims were taunting the tiger was probobly fabricated by the zoo in an attempt to cover their butts.

    • Posted By: tnmimi @ 12/28/2007 4:34:35 PM

      I find it increasingly curious that after all these years being kept in a zoo that this tiger should choose these three boys on this day to make an attack. Then lay next to them and begin an attack again when one begins to yell for help. Let's request an autopsy on the tiger and see what damage was done to IT before the attack. Yes, very curious, indeed!!

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:26:06 PM

      I have no doubt that the boys tormented the tiger. The dry moat was filled with things that had been thrown at it, not to mention the boy's shoe that fell off as he dangled his legs. Oh yeah, and three troublesome teenage boys hanging out by the tigers AFTER the zoo was closed? That is not innocent behavior.

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:23:50 PM

      The "20 ft" moat was actually 33 ft. Plus, it isn't supposed to have water in it. Tigers swim, so that wouldn't really stop them! Even if the wall was shorter than recommended, it still worked for 40 years. Obviously, something exceptional happened in this case to make the tiger escape. I have no doubt that it was cruelly tormented and agitated.

    • Posted By: trinny @ 12/28/2007 3:53:12 PM

      i agree u sound so right the zoo is trying to cover up i dont care if they did taunt the animal the tiger should not have been able to get him whatsoever they are responsible for our safety when we are paying our money to come in there environment it should not have been able to get no where near the boy and his friends this is so sad on christmas day may god be with the surviors and family members please they are definitly gonna need it..........

  • Posted By: Garay @ 12/27/2007 7:57:56 PM

    That animal should never have been killed. Siberian Tigers are an endangered species. Why were tranquilizer guns not used? The "victims" provoked that animal and it did what any wild animal would do. I wonder if the victims have green cards or if they are "endangered". Every action has a consequence and they deserved what they got.

    • Posted By: Second_Opinion @ 12/27/2007 8:48:35 PM

      What on earth do "green cards" have to do with this? Where did your great, great grandparents come from? It sure as heck wasn't the North American continent, now, was it? Your comment is right up there with Ronnie's.

      • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:32:34 PM

        My great great grandparents all came from the United States. My EIGHT great grandparents came hear in the 1600s legally. The also didn't torment wild animals and cause trouble!

      • Posted By: trinny @ 12/28/2007 4:10:31 PM

        endangered species ? so its okay for them to kill us .
        tranqulizer who is thinking abot that when this situation comes to play a big tiger chasing u it deserved to get gunned down what if she attacked u or your family..

  • Posted By: crstardust @ 12/27/2007 8:54:43 PM

    The zoo director may have thought he was going to save money by building that tiger enclosure at 12 and a half feet in height, previously mentioned, rather than 18 feet, Now, they'll have a wrongful death suit in the millions. Some cost savings, huh? And the one who paid with her life was the tiger.

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:31:18 PM

      The enclosure was built 40 years ago. I seriously doubt the zoo director is the same person. Also, things change in 40 years. Clearly regulations are different. The tiger cage was probably believed safe when it was built, and no inspectors have said anything recently. Obviously, it was safe for 40 years until some brats tormented the tiger!

  • Posted By: 3bears @ 12/28/2007 10:45:38 AM

    I feel angered that three young men have nothing better to do on Christmas Day but to teasea a caged wild animal and than claim to be "victims" They Got EXACTLY what they diserved, too bad they all didn't die. Shame on their so called parents for raising such idiots. I hope they are prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law.

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:28:36 PM

      I absolutely agree!!! It is about time greedy humans stopped abusing animals and the earth. The cruelest, most dangerous creatures on earth are destructive humans.

    • Posted By: tathope @ 12/28/2007 1:55:00 PM

      Your telling me 1 man deserved to die and 2 almost killed. Because they teased a tiger.. WOW what should they get if they tease your sister...

  • Posted By: LightsOut56 @ 12/28/2007 12:52:55 PM

    I love animals. However, this animal should have been put down after the first attack a year ago. Studies have proved that any animal that has attacked a human, will most certainly do it again. That goes for dogs, tigers, and all other animals. If an animal attacks a human, you put it to sleep. Period.

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:27:48 PM

      Obviously, you don't love animals. There are less than 400 Siberian tigers in the world, and that is AFTER they have bounced back from being VERY near to extinction. Tatiana was a healthy young female who could have brought many babies into the world to help save her species. Now, because of some idiot teenagers, they are one step closer to extinction.

    • Posted By: Flamazon @ 12/28/2007 2:03:58 PM

      Lightsout56 If you were any kind of animal expert you know that animals in captivity do not lose their natural instincts but they do lose a fear of humans. During feeding time (as you may see animals in the wild do) they can become agressive and possessive. To feed a Tiger with your hands like that is very foolish and it doesn't mean the animal should be put down. You're an idiot, after all, you have taken wild animals and forced them to conform to living in a small enclosure for their entire life for the simple reason that you and your kids get pleasure from them as 'spectacles then have the nerve to say that it should be killed for showing it's natural instincts even though it was due to human error? I agree that the fencing or the moat should have been safer but if the teenagers were taunting the Tigress I suddenly would feel less sympathetic. It's incredible that people condone human cruelty towards animals but when animals retaliate to that cruelty it's suddenly enought to say, 'if an animal attacks a human, you put it to sleep. Period' Check your thinking, it's flawed and think twice before saying that you love animals, because it sure doesn't show in your comment.

  • Posted By: mom24boyz @ 12/28/2007 3:18:16 PM

    I think it's terrible that this beautiful creature that was taken out of it's environment and caged up for our benefit was then killed for behaving naturally. I don't have a problem with zoos at all but to kill an animal because it is behaving naturally is wrong and an injustice to animals everywhere. Shame on the zoo and the police....how about tranquilizers and rehabilition to release in the wild??? I will certainly never patronize the SF zoo.

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:20:55 PM

      The tiger was born and raised in captivity. It wasn't taken out from the wild. In fact, tigers born in the wild are far, far more likely to be murdered by poachers. That is why there are less than 400 left in the wild.

  • Posted By: DJlynx @ 12/28/2007 4:06:24 PM

    A very sad day that this animal has lost it's life due to (once again) human stupidity. I read that they are not sure how the animal got out and are looking into it? Is there no security at this zoo whatsoever? Just back up the video tape, there should be cameras all over this type of public tourist spot, especially when they have had an incident with this animal in the recent past. With all the vast access we have to information these days to learn about animals, we don't need zoo's any longer. Unbelivable to think of putting a wild beast in an open area and then parading people by it so they can get the sense of smell and see them day after day. Cats can make amazing leaps and take time to figure out excactly how to traverse obstacles, where this animal was housed was not a good idea. I hope the families are paid an enormous amount of money that won't even begin to start the healing.

    • Posted By: mjoann @ 12/28/2007 4:17:07 PM

      The only human stupidity was that of the "victim". I hope the family doesn't get one cent. In fact, they should pay the zoo for the loss of a rare, endangered animal. There are less than 400 Siberian tigers left in the world, and now, we all have lost yet another young, healthy female of breeding age because their cruel and direspectful son chose to tease and torment a wild animal. It's his own fault.

  • Posted By: Antigone1000 @ 12/28/2007 2:24:01 PM

    I know PETA is urging the Zoo to shut down its tiger exhibit, if anyone is interested in assisting in that effort. The remaining tigers will then be moved to a sanctuary where they can live the remainder of their lives in peace.

    • Posted By: Ivorypraise58 @ 12/28/2007 3:46:01 PM

      I have read in other posts that in many sanctuaries the large cats are actually kept in cages and do not have near the room they have in zoos. Is that true? Not all zoos are created equal, the really good ones do have very large habitats with extremely large moats and walls.

      • Posted By: Antigone1000 @ 12/28/2007 4:06:46 PM

        It depends on the sanctuary. I know that PAWS is a very good sanctuary.

  • Posted By: Garay @ 12/27/2007 7:54:24 PM

    Who is really at fault in this situation? The endangered Siberian tiger was antagonized and provoked -- even assisted to leave her enclosure by a bunch of no count and maybe illegal aliens. The cat could have been subdued with a tranquilizer gun rather than shot to death. The victims got what they deserved and the world lost a beautiful animal. There are plenty of Mexicans, illegal or otherwise. I'd be interested to know if they have their green cards.

    • Posted By: Flamazon @ 12/28/2007 2:31:47 PM

      Garay just so you know, your comment has been reported for abuse. As a Mexican woman who was brought here illegally when I was a toddler, I take offense to your anti-immigrant, anti-mexican comments. Why are you assuming they are illegal? Even if they were (which they aren't) does that mean that their lives are somehow less valuable than yours? You show no class or socially appropriate character and what goes around comes around.

      • Posted By: Antigone1000 @ 12/28/2007 2:56:38 PM

        Flamazon: As an American, I am offended by your pride in being brought here illegally. People who are here illegally (from ANY country) are not paying taxes, but they are using the social systems that the rest of us pay for, including you. I agree completely that Garay's comments were offensive, but I find yours to be, as well.

  • Posted By: brookschaos @ 12/28/2007 9:26:55 AM

    I haven't noticed in any American press releases what I read in a foreign release. There were footprints on a rail where there shouldn't have been, there was shoe and blood where it shouldn't have been and there was evidence of taunting i.e. pinecones sticks etc. in the pens with the tiger. These boys angered this tiger to the point that when they point got what they were asking for. The story I read speculated that the leg hanging over the enclosure was grabbed by the tiger allowing her to pull herself out. Our press never mentions this because our liberal press would never want to blame these boys who apparently instigated this incident. Then after her escape the tiger NEVER bothered innocent visitors as she tracked the two boys who ran to the cafe. They were the two she was after and apparently for a reason. The sad things is that the tiger was an endangered animal acting on instinct and these boys pushed too far and paid the price for their actions.

    • Posted By: ceanf9 @ 12/28/2007 2:30:31 PM

      brookschaos, i can pretty much guarantee you that if the police had not shot the tiger, it WOULD have 'bothered' (ie attacked) other innocent zoo patrons... after it was through with the two boys it was mauling in the cafe.

  • Posted By: vthomp7 @ 12/28/2007 2:26:26 PM

    It never should have happened. But, gee...bad things happen everywhere anytime - to good people, too! Think of all the trillions of people that have visited zoos? Things are never perfect. Crap happens.

  • Posted By: sketchartist @ 12/28/2007 2:17:38 PM

    It turns out that the young man who was killed was trying to save the life of one of the others.

    I have never seen so many stupid comments in my life as I have read here. Yes, the tiger was only being a tiger - and the teenage boys MAY have been acting like teenage boys are known to do, although one of them gave his life to save another. I thought the idea was to keep the animals and the humans, no matter what their age, race, gender, hairdos, national origin or any other proclivities - SEPARATED.

  • Posted By: Flamazon @ 12/28/2007 2:01:14 PM

    Lightsout56 If you were any kind of animal expert you know that animals in captivity do not lose their natural instincts but they do lose a fear of humans. During feeding time (as you may see animals in the wild do) they can become agressive and possessive. To feed a Tiger with your hands like that is very foolish and it doesn't mean the animal should be put down. You're an idiot, after all, you have taken wild animals and forced them to conform to living in a small enclosure for their entire life for the simple reason that you and your kids get pleasure from them as 'spectacles then have the nerve to say that it should be killed for showing it's natural instincts even though it was due to human error? I agree that the fencing or the moat should have been safer but if the teenagers were taunting the Tigress I suddenly would feel less sympathetic. It's incredible that people condone human cruelty towards animals but when animals retaliate to that cruelty it's suddenly enought to say, 'if an animal attacks a human, you put it to sleep. Period' Check your thinking, it's flawed and think twice before saying that you love animals, because it sure doesn't show in your comment.

  • Posted By: Lindie @ 12/28/2007 1:32:23 PM

    It wouldn't matter if the victims were taunting the tiger, it is the zoo director's fault for not correcting the fence height for the tiger's cage. The director should be fired. It is too bad for the animal as that is only natural instinct at work.

  • Posted By: LightsOut56 @ 12/28/2007 1:00:46 PM

    By the way, it is only speculation, that the three men were taunting the tiger. They don't yet have all the facts.

  • Posted By: Dumb-Animal098 @ 12/27/2007 6:55:19 PM

    Whats wrong with some of you people? Why are all of you passing the blame on an innocent bystander, who got attacked by a dumb animal?
    Last time I checked, people were the most important species.
    Excellent points Tigerbutter and Petasucks.

    • Posted By: Antigone1000 @ 12/27/2007 7:03:55 PM

      People are the most important species according to whom?? People?? Well, according to me, I am the most important person. Does that mean I really AM the most important person?

      • Posted By: Dumb-Animal098 @ 12/27/2007 7:14:35 PM

        The most important species who just happens to be on top of the food chain.

        • Posted By: DocMWood1 @ 12/28/2007 12:48:29 PM

          I think this encounter pointed out rather eloquently that man is not, in fact, at the top of the food chain....

    • Posted By: brookschaos @ 12/28/2007 9:35:03 AM

      Tatianna didn't bother innocent bystanders, she passed them by as she tracked down the boys who had harassed her. Read the foreign press who prints more fact because they aren't as afraid of being sued.

    • Posted By: lewcwhip @ 12/27/2007 7:47:29 PM

      How have you been able to conclude that the young man who was killed was an "innocent bystander" when the investigation is ongoing and his behavior prior to the attack has not yet been reported? Does it make you feel superior to refer to the tiger as a "dumb animal?" And who did you check with on that "most important species" question? If you had any knowledge about animals, you would realize there is nothing "dumb" about a tiger. My guess is that if you and a tiger were let loose in the wild with only your wits for survival, the tiger would win.

      • Posted By: Dumb-Animal098 @ 12/27/2007 8:46:19 PM

        Men aren't supposed to live in the wild, tigers are. Of course the tiger would survive longer, It's meant to be out in the wild., they have adapted out there, we haven't. Side note: Animals live longer In captivity( zoo, institution).

  • Posted By: Tigerbutter @ 12/28/2007 11:31:45 AM

    3bears: Whenever, however you die you will be getting exactly what you deserve too.

  • Posted By: ihsl @ 12/26/2007 8:06:34 PM

    Nobody gives a crap about the HUMANS and their relatives of the young man, only the stupid, worthless, filthy animal. Animals are simply weeds without roots!

    • Posted By: 3bears @ 12/28/2007 10:54:40 AM

      Its the humans who were stupid, worthless and filthy INSIDE AND OUt. The should have all died for whta they did.

    • Posted By: savetheanimals @ 12/26/2007 9:33:00 PM

      You know your an animal right...

  • Posted By: Frosted Flake @ 12/27/2007 6:55:42 PM

    If humans are at fault in any way in this event, it's the people who designed the pen.

    • Posted By: brookschaos @ 12/28/2007 9:32:52 AM

      The only humans at fault here are the 3 boys who taunted the tiger, put a leg over in the pen which the tiger used to grab and climb out and hurt them. She didn't bother any of the other visitors she pasted tracking down the two boys who ran. This I got in the real press, not the liberal press at home which want tell all the facts. Evidence of taunting is in the pen and the boys were where they shouldn't have been.

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