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  • Posted By: Antigone1000 @ 12/27/2007 11:06:12 AM

    Sounds to me like you are the sick one, hatethetigers. You want to blame the only being in the story who had absolutely no choice but to be where she was. Unfortunately, this is the price we pay for thinking it is okay to treat animals the way that we do. We need to start realizing that they are not here to amuse us, but are fellow beings with whom we share a planet.

  • Posted By: Kimberley A. Willis @ 12/27/2007 11:03:36 AM

    I wonder if the animal could have been fed drugs, maybe a piece of meat like a burger from the cafe- with something in it. The victims or maybe someone else entirely wanted to see what would happen- you hear about people doing amazing things on drugs. I hope they necropsy the cat. Too bad there were no security cameras. The other possibility is some peta nut let it out on Christmas day some way- maybe it was actually trying to get back to it's pen. I wonder what the two living victims will say.

  • Posted By: dttw04 @ 12/27/2007 10:12:04 AM

    its scary that tigers hunt people in some places????
    humans are the top predator in the world! we hunt animals to extinction, for no other reason than our own selfish gain. now THAT'S scary. i think a few people getting killed by tigers, bears, lions, alligators, etc. is par for the course.
    i wouldn't be surprised to find that the kids were taunting the poor animal, in which case, they pretty much got what they asked for. if not, its a shame this happened, but not outrageous in the least. not considering what humans have single handedly done to the siberian tiger population out of human greed.

    bottom line, wild animals, even in cages, can be vicious by nature. but humans are the most vicious species of all. i find it funny that when a few people get killed by a wild animal, people are outraged and upset, but when an entire planet of animals is forced to bend to human whim, or be trampled by our progress, we just accept that as "the way it should be".

    • Posted By: jkaaz101406 @ 12/27/2007 10:44:04 AM

      If you aren't terrified at the prospect of being mauled by a wild animal, then there is something wrong with you. Try reading J Henry Patterson's, "The Man-Eaters of Tsavo." There's a few passages in there about how a big cat eats a human and not only is it disgusting, but its definitely what nightmares are made of. In no way am I saying that big cats should be hunted or feared. In fact, what humans have done to this planet and all that lives on it is disgraceful and should be corrected, but that fact does not do much to quell the shivers that run up my spine at the prospect of being digested by anything, big cat or not.

  • Posted By: Antigone1000 @ 12/27/2007 9:55:44 AM

    I understand what elnino means. Despite all the evidence about how bad it is for animals to be in zoos and how much mistreatment many of them endure at the hands of humans, humans continue to mistreat animals and keep them in zoos. The only thing that ever makes people think twice about their treatment of animals is a negative consequence for a human. Suffering of an animal should be sufficient to make us think twice, but most of us do not care about their suffering in comparison to our selfishness. Elnino hopes that incidents like these will make people understand that zoos should not exist, since nothing else seems to get that point across. As for zoos saving animals--they don't. They profit off them because they confine the animals for humans to look at. Sanctuaries save animals. They provide them with a home where they can live as natural a life as possible and not have to endure being gawked at all day for money.

  • Posted By: mb429 @ 12/27/2007 9:29:05 AM

    I find elnino comment about how you love it every time a wild animal attacts a human deeply disturbing. Shouldn't we value all forms of life instead of sacrificing one for another? To think that a mass killing of people from a tiger would help a cause is just as bad as a terrorist killing masses of innocent people for their cause. I hurt every time a see an animal killed for doing something that is nature to them. A properly run zoo is a good thing for society. The people who work at most public zoos often start out as volunteers who genuinely love these animals and to share their love by teaching other people. Zoos are a safe harbor for animals close to extinction and in dangerous areas of the world where people hunt them for profit. Most zoos also post information at exhibits explaining the habitat and threats against the animal. I know my local zoo also goes as far as to informing people what industries are detrimental to the animals and their habitat. I in turn take my children to the zoo to not only show and teach them about the animals but to better explain why we as a family boycott certain items that directly or indirectly harm them. They understand better and hopefully will grow up and pass on the same values to their children. That's better than telling them we should love it every time an animal attacts a human being.

  • Posted By: charlie15204 @ 12/27/2007 9:27:19 AM

    I find elnino comment about how you love it every time a wild animal attacts a human deeply disturbing. Shouldn't we value all forms of life instead of sacrificing one for another? To think that a mass killing of people from a tiger would help a cause is just as bad as a terrorist killing masses of innocent people for their cause. I hurt every time a see an animal killed for doing something that is nature to them. A properly run zoo is a good thing for society. The people who work at most public zoos often start out as volunteers who genuinely love these animals and to share their love by teaching other people. Zoos are a safe harbor for animals close to extinction and in dangerous areas of the world where people hunt them for profit. Most zoos also post information at exhibits explaining the habitat and threats against the animal. I know my local zoo also goes as far as to informing people what industries are detrimental to the animals and their habitat. I in turn take my children to the zoo to not only show and teach them about the animals but to better explain why we as a family boycott certain items that directly or indirectly harm them. They understand better and hopefully will grow up and pass on the same values to their children. That's better than telling them we should love it every time an animal attacts a human being.

  • Posted By: pete-at-nite @ 12/27/2007 9:11:11 AM

    I have been reading some of the other comments and I wanted to make another point. Humans are not natural prey to a tiger. They just don't think of us as food. This cat didn't eat, it was killing. She was not hungry, she was PISSED. When you see a proud, powerful animal in a zoo, you are looking at a prisoner. A prisoner learns to hate his captors. I would imagine that taunting or teasing would be rubbing salt in the wounds of a creature with very primitive reactions and emotions

    • Posted By: jkaaz101406 @ 12/27/2007 9:21:55 AM

      I agree. This cat was playing with the humans. It was enjoying a toy. However, humans are prey to tigers in some parts of Asia and India. How scary is that?

  • Posted By: floridapotter @ 12/27/2007 8:50:19 AM

    jkaka101406:
    Please learn that it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to "hand raise" and "tame" a wild tiger, or any wild animal. Creatures smaller than it will ALWAYS be considered prey; this behavior is INSTINCT. Domestic cats have been "socialized" for 5,000+ years yet exhibit the instinctive predator/prey behavior. This SF incident was awful and it underscores the absurdity of keeping such wild animals in captivity for "educational" purposes. Such live exhibits need to be phased out for the safety of both the animals and humans involved. For well reserached information on the number of wild animal attacks in recent years visit www.bigcatrescue.org. It's factual and frightening, a real education.

    • Posted By: jkaaz101406 @ 12/27/2007 9:10:47 AM

      It is not impossible (and I never used the word "tame") . There are several well known animal behaviorists who are working with wild animals right now and socializing them on an individual basis. Usually this can and should only be done if started at infancy. The benefits of close contact with and socialization of animals who are expected to live in our world much out weigh the risks. And just in case you misunderstood my comment, the point I am making is that I do not agree with keeping big cats in small enclosures, but realize it is happening whether I like it or not and am trying to suggest a better way. I am very familiar with the Big Cat Rescue in Tampa and like their work. It is zoos that I think need to change. And you who should read things better before submitting nasty comments.

  • Posted By: trmorris @ 12/26/2007 8:34:27 PM

    The U.S. should be establishing large territories for tiger sanctuary, as S. Africa is developing. These large parks allow the tigers to live free, and hunt natural populations of antelope species. The U.S. has a great overpopulation of the whitetail deer in some areas, due to human encroachment and the eradication of the deers natural predators. The tiger as a free species will soon be extinct,. Unless more countries establish these wildlife reserves for them now, it will be too late for this beautiful predator.

    • Posted By: treehuggers suck @ 12/26/2007 8:46:03 PM

      what a joke your comment is. ship all of the zoo animals back to their country of origin and throw them back in the woods where they belong and close all zoos. any animal not from the usa should be barred from this country and that includes the ones the do gooders and tree huggers have in captivity.

      • Posted By: taint @ 12/27/2007 8:54:51 AM

        hear hear...let's get rid of those damn horses first!

    • Posted By: naninanibooboo @ 12/27/2007 12:17:52 AM

      Establishing an animal sanctuary for a species that is non-native is not necessarily a good answer. Many non-native species of plants and animals have outcompeted the native species when accidentally or purposefully introduced and placed those species in crisis.

  • Posted By: pete-at-nite @ 12/27/2007 8:49:03 AM

    I think that this will eventually be found to have been caused by human error. Whoever is responsible should be prosecuted, not just for what happened to the humans, but for the death of one of the most impressive animals nature has ever contrived. I feel for the people who were hurt and their families, but the real crime was allowing the tiger to escape. The cat was doing what comes naturally to a cat.

  • Posted By: mike1964 @ 12/27/2007 8:37:06 AM

    This forum is to discuss the events at hand and post opinions, hopefully backing them up with facts. hatethetigers, where are your facts that 80% of your opposition belongs to PETA? And def_scorpion, What exactly are you trying to say? I tried very hard to pick apart your comment and understand it. Could you try to repeat your views intelligently and rationally without singling someone out for something entirely unrelated to the topic at hand? I'd like to hear your response if possible.

  • Posted By: elnino @ 12/27/2007 8:37:05 AM

    I love it every time a wild animal attacts a human. This is what we get for taking the poor animal out of its natural habitat. I don't understand the purpose of having wild animals caged up just for our viewing pleasure. It is very selfish and very sad. It's too bad the tiger did not kill a lot more people so that maybe zoos could disapear all together!

  • Posted By: thain66 @ 12/27/2007 8:13:23 AM

    Wasn't the young man who was killed right near the exhibit while his friends were about 300 yards away? It doesn't sound right that this animal just happened to get out on it's own. I can't imagine there are no cameras, for security or just keeping an eye on the animals well being, that didn't capture what really happened. Either someone made a mistake allowing this animal to get loose or this was part of some prank gone bad.

  • Posted By: thain66 @ 12/27/2007 8:11:20 AM

    Wasn't the young man who was killed right near the exhibit while his friends were about 300 yards away? It doesn't sound right that this animal just happened to get out on it's own. I can't imagine there are no cameras, for security or just keeping an eye on the animals well being, that didn't capture what really happened. Either someone made a mistake allowing this animal to get loose or this was part of some prank gone bad.

  • Posted By: jkaaz101406 @ 12/27/2007 8:03:15 AM

    I, for one, am suprised something like this hasn't happened sooner. Big cats are not meant to be confined to small enclosures. The cat house at my zoo is a sad place, where animals that are meant to run and play in the wild are confined to 20x20 enclosures. Anyone who has ever owned a cat knows that they are very smart and get bored easily. I do not believe that this tiger was doing anything out of the ordinary. I bet the tiger had been watching its "care takers" for a long time, waiting patiently for a chance to strike. My cats do it with mice, and amazingly enough, its the females that stalk, play with and eventually kill their prey. The lesson here should be one for us humans: big cats need bigger enclosures, enrichment and play to prevent boredom and definitely higher walls around the place. Duh! Who in their right mind would think a big cat wouldn't be able to jump 20 vertical feet, if it really wanted to? One more thing - all these zoos that think hand raising big cats is a bad idea should think of this: if you are never planning on releasing the animal to the wild, what's the point of keeping it wild? Close contact with humans from an early age will acclimate the big cats to humans and keep us out of the "prey" category. It would be better for everyone if zoos would change their stance from entertainment complexes for humans to homes for animals that have no place else to go. If the needs of the tiger, in this situation, had been met, this may never have happened. I am sorry for the loss of a human life, but its the zoo's fault, not the tiger's.

  • Posted By: mstarr13 @ 12/27/2007 7:50:17 AM

    I am with that expert, there is something fishy going on here. How did this anmal get out!? One clue...the wire mesh put in over the bars. My father used to tease animals at the zoo when I was growing up (not promoting it, it was cruel ), and the big cats would get VERY ticked VERY quickly. So making a HUGE leap, IF that first victim had been teasing the tiger, it could have been very motivated to get out. I wonder where this steel mesh was located. Seems like a perfect type of curtain for a big cat to climb. I have not seen this enclosure but I wonder if it could have given the cat a way out.
    As for killing it, imagine the scene, it's dark, quiet, there is already one dead body, these cops were soiling themselves when they saw that tiger. Especially when it was ripping another person apart, then it turns toward them. People have nightmares tamer than that situation.

  • Posted By: billyjensen @ 12/27/2007 5:00:53 AM

    After the major law suits, they will have to close the zoo and I couldn't agree more. If you don;t know how to run it properly and staff it properly, close it!!!!!! Shame on you,

  • Posted By: hatethetigers @ 12/27/2007 3:52:37 AM

    when domestic dogs go bad and kill people, they are destroyed. When a bear, in the wild, tracks and kills a hiker they are hunted and killed. We cannot afford to take a chance that the animal will not do so again! I for one would not have felt good about seeing an animal that had killed a human being, and I am even more certain that if the victim had been realted to me, I would personally be happy to put the animal down myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: hatethetigers @ 12/27/2007 3:29:29 AM

    I say we take all the wild animals from the zoos and release them to an area where all the bleeding-heart animal lovers can care for them. If the human race is lucky, the animals will do what comes natural and rid the country of weaklings.

    The only reason these nuts can say "poor tiger" is because the victims are not their son, brother, friend, or neighbor. The other reason is becasue 80% of them belong to a PETA chapter and know each other, but don't tell anyone!

  • Posted By: Sgt. Gadget @ 12/27/2007 3:18:48 AM

    I think it is a sad thing that the tiger was killed. If it had been possible to recapture it without killing it, it should have been done. From what I read the tiger was still over one of the victims and when the police approached it went towards them. i understand their need to protect themselves, and the victim. i also know the police are not trained or equiped to capture a tiger and feel they had no choice but to put it down in order to protect themselves and the victim. I am glad no one else was injured.
    As for the bleeding hearts that so strongly put down the zoo and blame the people who run them. You are showing your ignorance for all to see. Tigers are endandered for a reason and it is not zoos. Mostly loss of their natural habitat. Zoos are the reason some animals have not gone extinct and work hard to provide the animals the best care possible.
    I just wonder if the people who so strongly disagree with the tiger being killed would have felt the same way if they were the person on the ground with the tiger standing over them.

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