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  • Posted By: Concerned0411 @ 12/27/2007 8:06:50 PM

    It is asinine to waste our time with the Islamic people. They no nothing other than kill or be kill, they have no respect for human life whether it be of fellow Muslims or non Muslims. Muhammed was a man of peace? Muhammed taught tolerance for all? I have yet to see proof of that. Let's just let them keep blowing each other up. As long as they keep themselves busy with that project perhaps they will leave us alone.

    • Posted By: pamhead @ 12/27/2007 8:17:06 PM

      Oh please...have you never heard the old adage to the effect that it is better to keep your mouth closed and have people think you are an idiot, rather than opening it and confirming that they were right?

      • Posted By: Concerned0411 @ 12/28/2007 10:30:06 AM

        I have heard that, and thank you for sacrificing yourself to prove it correct.

  • Posted By: okie3 @ 12/28/2007 9:19:59 AM

    Who knows who killed Bhutto, but Dick Cheney sentenced her to death by insisting she go back for the election in Hanuary knowing she faced certain death.

  • Posted By: Laila @ 12/28/2007 9:00:38 AM

    Benazir was killed by the elements in Pakistan's security establishment. The evidence was washed on the murder scene by fire engines as shown by the BBC. According to Bhutto's own email to Mark Seigel (her former spokesman in the U.S.) and disclosed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN, she had stated Musharraf should be held responsible in the event of her death. Why friends of Musharraf in the U.S. are trying to cover up? The interview by Bruce Riedel is non-sense and adds insult to injury of millions of mourning Pakistanis who know better

  • Posted By: Laila @ 12/28/2007 8:38:02 AM

    Benazir was killed by the elements in Pakistan's security establishment. The evidence was washed on the murder scene by fire engines as shown by the BBC. According to Bhutto's own email to Mark Seigel (her former spokesman in the U.S.) and disclosed by Wolf Blitzer onn CNN, he had stated Musharraf should be held responsible in the event of her death. Why friends of Musharraf in the U.S. are trying to cover up? The interview by Bruce Riedel is non-sense and adds insult to injury for millions of Pakistanis who know better

  • Posted By: KK123 @ 12/28/2007 3:35:15 AM

    Comment: islam is a dark and evil religion, it advocates for evil, deceit and murder. it advocates for ignorance and injustice.

    ISLAM IS A CANCER TO OUR WORLD. Everywehere it goes it destroys.

    Regardless of the situation it's always the same. where there is islam there is repression, evil, and violence.

    The great prophet Mohammed had siphilis, and married a 9 year old child. what kind of sickkos can believe in a pedophile as god's prophet??? so pathetic!

    • Posted By: hasan.ibrahim @ 12/28/2007 7:06:52 AM

      Please do some research on islam before you post such comments. And for God's sake, don't do your research on the internet, it only has views of crazy munting mother *** cunts like you so you won't get the real meaning of Islam :)
      Try an islamic scholar. I'm sure you know where to find one

    • Posted By: hasan.ibrahim @ 12/28/2007 7:05:37 AM

      No one was and is being hypnotized into this "chapter" of Jihad. Why do you speak as if you have been living in Pakistan or a muslim community? This is the problem with the world. They believe whatever the media brings to them. Have you ever considered actually researching on what is true? I am a Pakistani student doing my bachelors from Australia, not so surprisingly, I get the comment "you're not like a muslim, we thought muslims have large beards and kill for no reason??? all the time.
      Even the extremists in my country are not like that. They only stand up for religion just like your priests. But unlike them, the muslim extremists are not afraid of speaking up for what believe in. The major political instability started with the sacking of the chief justice of Pakistan. You tell me, was that because of extremists? Did the chief justice have extremist Islamic views? No. That was just politics. Jihad or Islamic extremism were not even remotely in the picture. After that was the staging of the Red Mosque fiasco. I quote myself from another reply I wrote on a forum, ???that was utter bullshit!??? Musharaff arrests and makes people disappear without any reason or proof of them being guilty, how was he not able to control a minor conflict like that? He just had to show the world that he was still in control of Pakistan. The minute he made his point, it all ended. All the people behind the staging only wanted Islamic reform in the country. That whole situation turned bitter when Musharaff replied to they???re request in a violent manner. That I say is not extremism, extremism is what Musharaff is doing, slaying 100s of innocent people everyday for no reason whatsoever. The day Musharaff resigns or is over thrown from his seat as president, Pakistan will once again be a stable nation.

      And as for the subject of Jihad. Jihad requires Muslims to struggle in the way of God or to struggle to improve one's self and/or society. Nowhere does it mention senseless killings for politics and especially not to kill their own Muslim brothers. You seem quite knowledgeable, which I am not. All I have done is speak my mind here. And I advise you to do your homework before you start posting nonsense on websites.

  • Posted By: hasan.ibrahim @ 12/28/2007 7:05:07 AM

    @ KK123
    Please do some research on islam before you post such comments. And for God's sake, don't do your research on the internet, it only has views of crazy munting mother *** cunts like you so you won't get the real meaning of Islam :)
    Try an islamic scholar. I'm sure you know where to find one

  • Posted By: hasan.ibrahim @ 12/28/2007 6:57:14 AM

    No one was and is being hypnotized into this "chapter" of Jihad. Why do you speak as if you have been living in Pakistan or a muslim community? This is the problem with the world. They believe whatever the media brings to them. Have you ever considered actually researching on what is true? I am a Pakistani student doing my bachelors from Australia, not so surprisingly, I get the comment "you're not like a muslim, we thought muslims have large beards and kill for no reason??? all the time.
    Even the extremists in my country are not like that. They only stand up for religion just like your priests. But unlike them, the muslim extremists are not afraid of speaking up for what believe in. The major political instability started with the sacking of the chief justice of Pakistan. You tell me, was that because of extremists? Did the chief justice have extremist Islamic views? No. That was just politics. Jihad or Islamic extremism were not even remotely in the picture. After that was the staging of the Red Mosque fiasco. I quote myself from another reply I wrote on a forum, ???that was utter bullshit!??? Musharaff arrests and makes people disappear without any reason or proof of them being guilty, how was he not able to control a minor conflict like that? He just had to show the world that he was still in control of Pakistan. The minute he made his point, it all ended. All the people behind the staging only wanted Islamic reform in the country. That whole situation turned bitter when Musharaff replied to they???re request in a violent manner. That I say is not extremism, extremism is what Musharaff is doing, slaying 100s of innocent people everyday for no reason whatsoever. The day Musharaff resigns or is over thrown from his seat as president, Pakistan will once again be a stable nation.

    And as for the subject of Jihad. Jihad requires Muslims to struggle in the way of God or to struggle to improve one's self and/or society. Nowhere does it mention senseless killings for politics and especially not to kill their own Muslim brothers. You seem quite knowledgeable, which I am not. All I have done is speak my mind here. And I advise you to do your homework before you start posting nonsense on websites.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/28/2007 6:16:36 AM

    No one person can bring change, it takes a movement. Bhutto's death could have started this movement. Or it could of ended a movement. Only time will tell. This was prophesized that a woman leader would be assassinated and that it would impact the whole globe. Everyone thought it was a possible referal to an American president. Who thought it would have been Bhutto. THe extremist movement still has uncontrolled grudges against the Clinton's. Hillary Clinton could fuel the extremist cause. This extremist movement views "things" different. I felt bad when I heard the news partly because Bhutto was a women. To us it is an unspeakable crime but to others who belong to powerful extermist movements it is "nothing". These people do not care. We need Obama as president in order to fuel the peace process. Our best chance at peace and security is OBAMA. We need someone who's chief policy makers believe in the movement for peace and prospeity for all. One who understands that our troops are dying and that this issue is more important than their own personal political careers. After the assassination of JFK and Martin Luther KIng, the civil rights MOVEMENT succeeded under the Jonhnson administration in having civil rights legislation passed into law. It was a MOVEMENT that could not be stopped. Bin Laden is a god to extremist, he is their BHUTTO, extremist have no problems committting atrocities. In fact it is their dream, it is their end goal in life. This is why we cannot let these extremist continue to multiply. Obama is our best chance. He is also intelligent enough to know Russia and it's breakaway republics in Central Asia as well as the technological advancement of CHina and it blatent theft of intellectual property is a threat that needs to be dealt with.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/28/2007 6:04:37 AM

    No one person can bring change, it takes a movement. Bhutto's death could have started this movement. Or it could of ended a movement. Only time will tell. This was prophesized that a woman leader would be assassinated and that it would impact the whole globe. Everyone thought it was a possible referal to an American president. Who thought it would have been Bhutto. THe extremist movement still has uncontrolled grudges against the Clinton's. Hillary Clinton could fuel the extremist cause. This extremist movement views "things" different. I felt bad when I heard the news partly because Bhutto was a women. To us it is an unspeakable crime but to others who belong to powerful extermist movements it is "nothing". These people do not care. We need Obama as president in order to fuel the peace process. Our best chance at peace and security is OBAMA. We need someone who's chief policy makers believe in the movement for peace and prospeity for all. One who understands that our troops are dying and that this issue is more important than their own personal political careers. After the assassination of JFK and Martin Luther KIng, the civil rights MOVEMENT succeeded under the Jonhnson administration in having civil rights legislation passed into law. It was a MOVEMENT that could not be stopped. Bin Laden is a god to extremist, he is their BHUTTO, extremist have no problems committting atrocities. In fact it is their dream, it is their end goal in life. This is why we cannot let these extremist continue to multiply. Obama is our best chance. He is also intelligent enough to know Russia and it's breakaway republics in Central Asia as well as the technological advancement of CHina and it blatent theft of intellectual property is a threat that needs to be dealt with.
    THE THIRD WAVE IS COMING, MUSLIM YOUTH HAVE BEEN HYpNOTIZED BY THE CHApTER OF JIHAD. OBAMA MIGHT BE ABLE TO CALM THIS TENSION. ALL AROUND THE WORLD EVEN IN HIGH SCHOOLS HERE AT HOME THE MUSLIM YOUTH ARE MOVING MORE TO THE RIGHT, MORE EXTREME, MORE FANATICAL IN THEIR RELIGIOUS pRACTICES.

  • Posted By: nepos libertas @ 12/28/2007 6:00:40 AM

    It was the work of the CIA and Mossad in the joint operation in the assassination of Bhutto and the mass-scale bomb attacks (October 18 2007). Bernard Gwertzman is being misleading with this propagandistic commentary. Council on Foreign Relations benefit from Bhutto's death and the ensuring chaos in order to bring about American intervention to occupy Pakistan ostensibly to stop terrorists from acquiring the nukes, and Americans will have Iran surrounded and ready to begin the new war. Google "Why CIA and Mossad work jointly to sabotage by terror to force change on Pakistan in geopolitical stratagem" for further information.

  • Posted By: nepos libertas @ 12/28/2007 6:00:14 AM

    It was the work of the CIA and Mossad in the joint operation in the assassination of Bhutto and the mass-scale bomb attacks (October 18 2007). Bernard Gwertzman is being misleading with this propagandistic commentary. Council on Foreign Relations benefit from Bhutto's death and the ensuring chaos in order to bring about American intervention to occupy Pakistan ostensibly to stop terrorists from acquiring the nukes, and Americans will have Iran surrounded and ready to begin the new war. Google "Why CIA and Mossad work jointly to sabotage by terror to force change on Pakistan in geopolitical stratagem" for further information.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/28/2007 5:29:05 AM

    We are in big trouble extremist and children of moderates all around the world are being seduced by the chapter of JIHAD. If you look at the Madrassa's they are brainwashing futre genereations in that region with the chapter of JIHAD. IT is like subliminal indoctrination. This is very dangerous. THEY ARE TEACHING THE CHILDREN TO FIGHT JIHAD FOR one hundred years. Obama is the only candidate that can change antiamericanism in that region. It just feels right voting for OBAMA

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/28/2007 5:28:46 AM

    USS COLE, First trade center bombing, embassy in Tanzania ect... duffle. The extremist movement against America begam after the first invasion of Iraq. American troop presence the root cause. I am not saying Hillary is not capable, I just think that Barak Obama has the right instincts and skills to tame that region. He is part of a movement that is very determined to succeed. Hillary Clinton will be an asset to the OBAMA presidency. Hillary Clinton is not a figure that will be welcomed in the traditional Muslim world as president, as a member of OBAMA's presidency YES. WHY?because it is a different culture. This is the first time a woman actually has a chance to become president. That is cutting edge even for our culture, imagine how it is perceived in the Muslim world, they are not ready yet. OBAMA just represents unity, it is what this country needs now. The Clinton's are my second choice

  • Posted By: kamalik @ 12/28/2007 3:03:16 AM

    Has Bruce Riedel joined AlQaeda to be so sure. It is too early to say this. There are many non alqaeda elements in the establishment who could have done this. US must demand an independent enquiry as they did for Hareri.

  • Posted By: bmamour @ 12/27/2007 8:22:45 PM



    What a bunch of fools and ignorant, iliterate Al Qaeda, to Murder Awoman such as Bhutto.

    I am really confused by the politics of the extremist and what they're really fighting for. I would seriously adivsed all the musilims commmunities a round the world to sit down and redefine the principles and values of islam.

    Can any muslim quote for me a verse in the Holy Quran, whichs says Kill awoman and Chidren.......

    These bunch of uneducated millitants are making islam look bad in face of other muslims and entire world face book. One thing these guys needs to understand is the difference betweeen religion and the state and what islam as a religion dispise as an enemy. Ms Bhutto, is a politician not an American Messiah that's going to preach sacterianism and christanity, she has dedicated and sacrificed her beautiful life to the people of Pakistan, to enjoy a democratic and peaceful pakistan like the rest of the world . I really don't care who did it, however, the act it self is stupid, idiotic, and un islamic, and above all evil. Nontheless, Presidnet Musharaf, should take a day off work lay back to watch the archieve of his mess, am sure if he's got feelings and honesty and faith in God, he'll get all the answers for his country's best interest. Killing political opponenst is not a political solution but rather creating more confusion and instablity .

    Last but not least, Al Qaeda should ask themselves, why are we killing our own people in the name of God, when we're all musilims?....... Please don't misuse this beautiful faith for evil gains.........

    I think Pakistanist needs to remember , it's going to take a nother hell of decades to find a woman like Ms Bhutto. I am not from Pakistan, but reallly devasted when i read about this sad and incomprehensible news today.

    May Ms Bhutto Soul rest in Peace, we're dearly going to miss her

    Concerned and Devasted

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/28/2007 1:30:37 AM

    We are in big trouble extremist and children of moderates all around the world are being seduced by the chapter of JIHAD. If you look at the Madrassa's they are brainwashing futre genereations in that region with the chapter of JIHAD. IT is like subliminal indoctrination. This is very dangerous. THEY ARE TEACHING THE CHILDREN TO FIGHT JIHAD FOR one hundred years. Obama is the only candidate that can change antiamericanism in that region. It just feels right voting for OBAMA

  • Posted By: majerhoople @ 12/28/2007 12:37:47 AM

    This is indeed a tragedy,but not unexpected. She knew by returning to Pakistan her life was in jeopardy.But still she believed she could make a difference despite the opposition against her and the turmoil in the country.She appeared to be a voice of reason and sanity in that region,two qualities that seem to be unacceptable in that region.
    With elections scheduled in a few weeks,the radical factions were bound to become more active,with terrorist activities expanding.To have an announcement,just hours after this tragedy,by a former Bush official that the Al Qaeda is responsible for this is irresponsible journalism.Did Rupert Murdoch buy Newsweek also?
    Of course the Al Qaeda did this,who else would Bush blame? They love this,it plays right into their politics of fear agenda. Don't wait until the CIA could analyze this situation,Bush doesn't listen to them anyway,they might tell him something he doesn't want to hear.The last time they did that one of their operatives got exposed.Can you say Valerie Plame?!
    Just a thought.If Pakistan goes under marshall law,because of this incident,with Musharaff as the leader,what conclusions would be drawn?

  • Posted By: ibanay @ 12/28/2007 12:24:36 AM

    Comment: The death of Ms Bhutto coincided with the ripening of the objective conditio as evedenced of a revolutionary crisis engulfing Mushaaraff's leadership. Bhutto as a symbol of Islamic secularism, finally became the focal point as percieved by the islamic radicals, Al Qaeda. she was used as a tool in ousting Musharaff who happens also to be a U.S. ally, which, fits the epitomy of propagations based on the theory and history of Islamic fundamentalism. The death of Bhutto will spark a crisis in that country reulting to sectarian and political violence, which is agreeable to be the handiwork of al Qaeda. The resulting violence will only benefit the the propagation and creation of the Old caliphate system that the Al qaeda has been hankering to attain. The violence is necessary because of the tenets in Koran which states that the world is divided into two abodes: The abode for peace "Dar-Al-Islam" and the "Dar-Al-Harb" or the abode of war, which states the inevitability of violence in the pursuit of greater "Jihad" or war against one self to overcome sinfulness and the lesser "Jihad", which is to subjugate the unbelievers and infidels including collaborators who rejected the call of conversion to Islam and thus contributing to the hindrance of Islamic Propagation on the re-establishment of the world into the Old caliphate system based on the sunnis or the acts and deeds of the Prophet Mohammad, which has been the objective of the Al-Qaeda.Thus, this theory explains the needs of war and violence against the Bhutto and Musharaff, as they are both muslim seculars and known Western Allies.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/27/2007 11:38:21 PM

    Somilia, USS COLE, First trade center bombing, embassy in Tanzania ect... duffle. The extremist movement against America begam after the first invasion of Iraq. American troop presence the root cause. I am not saying Hillary is not capable, I just think that Barak Obama has the right instincts and skills to tame that region. He is part of a movement that is very determined to succeed. Hillary Clinton will be an asset to the OBAMA presidency. Hillary Clinton is not a figure that will be welcomed in the traditional Muslim world as president, as a member of OBAMA's presidency YES. WHY?because it is a different culture. This is the first time a woman actually has a chance to become president. That is cutting edge even for our culture, imagine how it is perceived in the Muslim world, they are not ready yet. OBAMA just represents unity, it is what this country needs now. The Clinton's are my second choice.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/27/2007 11:37:55 PM

    We are in big trouble extremist and children of moderates all around the world are being seduced by the chapter of JIHAD. If you look at the Madrassa's they are brainwashing futre genereations in that region with the chapter of JIHAD. IT is like subliminal indoctrination. This is very dangerous. THEY ARE TEACHING THE CHILDREN TO FIGHT JIHAD FOR one hundred years. Obama is the only candidate that can change antiamericanism in that region. It just feels right voting for OBAMA

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