Can Musharraf Survive?

The downfall of the US is in the making - its own making. The events in Pakistan are the fruits of the US policy.The more involved by the US in foreign affairs, the less it focused on its domestic matters. The US foreign policy creates havoc everywhere and the world has become less and less peaceful each day.There will be a time when the US has to face with so many threats in various forms from all sides that it will not be able to effectively evade any of them. The signs are all there. The US government knows it but will not reveal them but it will reveal itself. For example:-
1. The dollar is not in good shape. 2. The US despite having the Home Security Department is still not secure - there are still open borders. 3. The blacks are still being treated as second class citizens and are not contented thus easily provoked - similar for other non-caucasions. 4. The housing loans and credit card problems are still not resolved - note the airline industry which is still to recover 5. The price of oil is still high - it affect so many things 5. The violence, murder and other crimes all over the US is increasing 6. The shooting spree is not under control 7. Lindsay Lohan is short of money - the rich are vulnerable. 8. Hollywood has run out of ideas for block busters and they are now producing many flops - the writer dispute?. 9. Greenspan is replaced by a nobody to head the treasury. 10. New Orleans has not improved after several years - FEMA and many government bodies are not effective - even the CIA burning of tapes 11. The recent fire in California can happen again even before the full recovery.( Note more natural disasters are going to happen in the US due to its emissions and global warming) 12. The US is dependent on other countries now for example China and Europe. 13. Both Afghanistan and Iraq are still in turmoil after so many billions have been spent. 14. The US has not settled the Iran and North Korea nuclear issue. 15. The US army has been stretched to its limits. 16. The US has created so many enemies.17. Russia, China and India are building up their power military, economy and technology (medical, commercial, military and space) 18. The European Union does not blindly support the US which the US has taken for granted. 19. Japan has diversified their international relations both politically and economically enough not to be too dependent on the US. 20. All US allies have to be bought and not taken for granted like before. 21. The current administration is a lame duck and the next team has no one worthy to lead the US into the near future. 22. Bush has made so many stupid mistakes and difficult to rectify. 23. So far nobody in the US can predict the eventuality of any major events or occurences and even missed the obvious.

So just wait and see. Do not blame others or God for the downfall, it has happened before with all great nations previously. What more can be said?

There has not been one instant in history where the KORAN HAS brought peace. It is their culture. Christianity has evolve, just like barbians eventually became civilized, so did Christianity. Even moderate Muslims are swayed by the JIHAD CHApter. The offspring of these moderateds have already carried out attacks in England and have tried in Canada and AMerica. What is amazing is how they are influenced by the Iraq war. They turn on the T.V and become enraged. There only hope to strike back is JIHAD. Remember Muslims have been indoctrinating there own for centuries. They have finally perfected it. This chapter allows leaders to indoctrinate their people all around the world. The " Ayattolah" has used this doctrine on Salman Rushdie who is an INDIAN. The only way to deal with a nuclear threat, is in private. We should gurantee all countries FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. However if the people choose an extremist government then they must know the consequences. IT IS THESE SAME CONSEQUENCES THAT have DETERed RUSSIA FROM USING THEIR NUCLEAR ARSERNAL AS MUSCLE. WE WILL Annihlate YOU if you threaten with nuclear weapons. That is why the Middle East Government threaten Israel because they know better. The same goes for pakistan, any government that takes power after Free and Fair Elections, will be delivered the same message, In addition, they will assist us in the HUNT FOR BIN LADEN. Keeping Bin LADEN alive seems to be making a lot of people rich. We need to get Bin Laden and get the hell out of pacistan, let nations determine their own future. Nations cannot do that without a strong constitution that is followed like the KORAN.

WE NEED TO GET BIN LADEN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF pacistan. Let the U.N do their job. Let's use our force through the U.N. or through an ARAB===ISRAELI COUNCIL, which includes all countries in the region like INDIA, WARIKSTAN, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan. China and India have historically and traditionally had much more in common then uncommon, therefore the grounds for cooperation are naturally existent. We need to build alliances with these nations and let them put the pressure on their neighbors when the misbehave. We well then keep those force in check. It is a lot cheaper or "cost effective", to be smart and build alliances rather than unilaterally attacking these destablization issues, like the death of BHUTTO. The death of Bhutto was a direct result of the JIHAD CHApter. A young man subliminally indoctrinated to destroy his life and twenty one others including BHUTTO, was brainwashed by JIHAD to carry out a political assissination. You cannot seperate Mosque from state in the Muslim world. There should be JIHAD waged against those who misuse this doctrine like the Ayatolah and pacistani military leadership. It is obvious that these leaders knew their reign of power was over and that Bhutto was going to let the "AMERICANS" run the country. It should be no surprise that this assissination happened, in fact the victim even e mailed her own murderers. America needs to stop forcing the issue they should of brought BHUTTO back humbly. SHE SHOULD NOT have been parading. This is war, JIHAD means war. WHEN WILL WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE people have declared war. BHUTTO is death could have been prevented if people really understood what JIHAD means.

Musharraf can't survive long. One way or another he will probably be gone soon enough. But while he is still there, it's important to persuade him to encourage the democratization process. With Benazir dead and no obvious replacement for her in the PPP, the elections will likely have to be postponed. But the world (specially the US) need to do all they can to continue to encourage democratic reforms. They need to provide assurance that there WILL be elections, and that they will be as fair as possible, given the circumstances. If the hope of elections and democracy dies in Pakistan, it will be impossible to prevent civil war.

Pakistan is very close to anarchy. A failed state with nuclear weapons is a nightmare scenario. Although we hope it will never come to that, preparations for that eventuality have to be made. India will never agree to invading Pakistan or occupying it for any length of time. It has problems enough with its own Muslim population; it certainly has no desire to deal with another 160 million Muslims who have been brought up from birth to hate and fear India. But the 3 countries most affected by Pakistan's nuclear weapons are India, the US, and Israel, and as such, they should and will work together to make sure that in the worst scenario those weapons are safeguarded and do not fall into the hands of the Islamic militants.

While we should plan for the worst, we should do our best to make sure that the worst doesn't happen. It's important for the US to realize that there will never be peace in Pakistan or any hope of democracy while Musharraf is in power. This is not a stable situation. Everyone's life hangs by a thread if the enemy is dedicated enough, as the murder of Benazir showed. Foreign policy based on pinning all hopes on one man who is hated and reviled by the majority of the populace is a stupid idea. He could be assassinated tomorrow, and then where would the US be? He has been the cause of enormous resentment against the US in Pakistan, both from the Islamic radicals who hate the US anyway, and the moderate Muslims who see this American puppet destroying democratic institutions in the country, imprisoning and torturing the opposition, arresting Supreme Court justices, etc. He has got to go, and he will go sooner or later. Somehow, in the interim, the world needs to make sure that the next transition is to a more democratic form of government, not to another dictator and not to the religious fanatics.

Why do you expect the closet moslem, Obama (related to Osama?) to fight his fellow muhammadans?

THE THIRD WAVE IS COMING
We are in big trouble extremist and children of moderates all around the world are being seduced by the chapter of JIHAD. If you look at the Madrassa's they are brainwashing futre genereations in that region with the chapter of JIHAD. IT is like subliminal indoctrination. This is very dangerous. THEY ARE TEACHING THE CHILDREN TO FIGHT JIHAD FOR one hundred years. Obama is the only candidate that can change antiamericanism in that region. It just feels right voting for OBAMA

: Somilia, USS COLE, First trade center bombing, embassy in Tanzania ect... duffle. The extremist movement against America begam after the first invasion of Iraq. American troop presence the root cause. I am not saying Hillary is not capable, I just think that Barak Obama has the right instincts and skills to tame that region. He is part of a movement that is very determined to succeed. Hillary Clinton will be an asset to the OBAMA presidency. Hillary Clinton is not a figure that will be welcomed in the traditional Muslim world as president, as a member of OBAMA's presidency YES. WHY?because it is a different culture. This is the first time a woman actually has a chance to become president. That is cutting edge even for our culture, imagine how it is perceived in the Muslim world, they are not ready yet.

: No one person can bring change, it takes a movement. Bhutto's death could have started this movement. Or it could of ended a movement. Only time will tell. This was prophesized that a woman leader would be assassinated and that it would impact the whole globe. Everyone thought it was a possible referal to an American president. Who thought it would have been Bhutto. THe extremist movement still has uncontrolled grudges against the Clinton's. Hillary Clinton could fuel the extremist cause. This extremist movement views "things" different. I felt bad when I heard the news partly because Bhutto was a women. To us it is an unspeakable crime but to others who belong to powerful extermist movements it is "nothing". These people do not care. We need Obama as president in order to fuel the peace process. Our best chance at peace and security is OBAMA. We need someone who's chief policy makers believe in the movement for peace and prospeity for all. One who understands that our troops are dying and that this issue is more important than their own personal political careers. After the assassination of JFK and Martin Luther KIng, the civil rights MOVEMENT succeeded under the Jonhnson administration in having civil rights legislation passed into law. It was a MOVEMENT that could not be stopped. Bin Laden is a god to extremist, he is their BHUTTO, extremist have no problems committting atrocities. In fact it is their dream, it is their end goal in life. This is why we cannot let these extremist continue to multiply. Obama is our best chance. He is also intelligent enough to know Russia and it's breakaway republics in Central Asia as well as the technological advancement of CHina and it blatent theft of intellectual property is a threat that needs to be dealt with.

love and care each other ....do more for others and dont do too much for ownself. pls remember that we all must die one day............dont harm each other to get the money and power........ from amituofo

Dont think/try to revenge for anyone who dead in tragic or murder by someone because everyone in the world will die one day if u all believe there is retribution or punisment after die , the real bad people will great pain in the hell and now living with great fear.................................. dont fight with each other for the money and power , thats the only way can save the world. remember this pls.

Why weren't US troops going after these scumbags in Pakistan instead of being tied up in Iraq, which wasn't much of a threat? Does anybody remember that Bin Laden did 9/11 and he's hiding in Pakistan?

Heckuva job, Republicans..........!

reply to ryoung122 :: how do u "believe" a person is "100%" guilty? how do u prove that?lolz....ur such an immature piece of crap...try to look at da bigger piece of da picture, u piece of sh!t...corruption is everywhere...dun tell me no one does it...at least Benazir wus still a moderator in dealing with Pakistan's fragile politics...did u see any sign of "hope" to an end to those suicide bombings under that moron musharraf's rule?...ur jst another one of a military rule's dogs.....go back home, eat ur own faeces and STFU....

Socrates, MLK, Gandhi...all gave their life for their cause.

Bhutto's legacy is tainted, however. I do believe she was 100% guilty of corruption. In an interview on CNN last night, her excuse was 'everybody does it'.

Nevertheless, if we forget about 'Mr. 10%' what really happened is that Benazhir decided that a life in exile was not worth living. Yet if she had not campaigned so far to the left, she might not have been killed. Musharraf survives by playing both sides of the fence.

people likeryoung122 are fanatica and disgrace to any nation.why are they so prejudice,
jews persecuted jesus and still they take pride when discussing privatly,
why fight the three abraham religions to gether,i can write lot but i do not believe in fanatism and pity people like him.
rehmani