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  • Posted By: alphamale @ 12/30/2007 12:13:54 PM

    You people dont under stand THIS IS A HOLY WAR. We are the crusaders of the 21st century. The literal translation of islam, is "submission". These people want to make the whole world a muslim state. What are their means? Look at the birthrate of muslims, its higher than ANY other ethnic group in the world. That is their WMD, a festering boil, that generation after generation gradually takes control. Look at whats going on it Europe right now! WAKE UP PEOPLE, ITS US AGAINST THEM. Not politically correct but absoutly true.

  • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 8:22:52 PM

    WorldWithoutMuslims.....I don't know why you continue to display your iggnorance for all to see? You seem to be an extremist yourself. You appear to be filled with hatred and must be a very confused individual. Perhaps you should try pulling your head out of that donkey's butt, take a look around to see what's happening, before you start talking about things which you obviously know nothing about.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/29/2007 6:32:31 PM

    There has not been one instant in history where the KORAN HAS brought peace. It is their culture. Christianity has evolve, just like barbians eventually became civilized, so did Christianity. Even moderate Muslims are swayed by the JIHAD CHApter. The offspring of these moderateds have already carried out attacks in England and have tried in Canada and AMerica. What is amazing is how they are influenced by the Iraq war. They turn on the T.V and become enraged. There only hope to strike back is JIHAD. Remember Muslims have been indoctrinating there own for centuries. They have finally perfected it. This chapter allows leaders to indoctrinate their people all around the world. The " Ayattolah" has used this doctrine on Salman Rushdie who is an INDIAN. The only way to deal with a nuclear threat, is in private. We should gurantee all countries FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. However if the people choose an extremist government then they must know the consequences. IT IS THESE SAME CONSEQUENCES THAT have DETERed RUSSIA FROM USING THEIR NUCLEAR ARSERNAL AS MUSCLE. WE WILL Annihlate YOU if you threaten with nuclear weapons. That is why the Middle East Government threaten Israel because they know better. The same goes for pakistan, any government that takes power after Free and Fair Elections, will be delivered the same message, In addition, they will assist us in the HUNT FOR BIN LADEN. Keeping Bin LADEN alive seems to be making a lot of people rich. We need to get Bin Laden and get the hell out of pacistan, let nations determine their own future. Nations cannot do that without a strong constitution that is followed like the KORAN.

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 8:17:52 PM

      I urge you not to fall into Bin Laden's trap. This is just the thing he wants. He wants Christians to hate Muslims. He want's WW III to be a war between Christians and Muslims. He has openly stated that this is his plan.

      I have done much study on the Koran in the pas 6 years, and I can tell you personally, there is nothing in the Koran that says sucide is ok. In fact, the Koran teaches that sucide is a sin and leads to enternal damnation. There is nothing in the Koran that teaches the killing of innocence. There is nothing in the Koran that says to teach your children to hate. These are all things that Bin Laden and others have taken out of context.

      There is no Jihad....only a few cowards that murder innoncence and then hide behind women and children. Muslims that know their Koran should despise these evil men that murder their own. Again I'll say, it should be Muslims leading this fight against these radical islamic terrorist that continue to highjack their religion and murder innoncence!

      Yet who is it that has taken it upon themselves to be the world leader. What country has done more to stablize the world and bring peace and freedom to all? It should not be the United States job to straighten out this mess.......but if he US doesn't do it...who else will?

      Peace is not achieved though negotiation and talks.....Peace is achieved through Victory! The United States must achieve Victory if the world is to ever know peace again!

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 8:16:25 PM

    Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:51:04 PM
    Comment: Bush gave billions of tax-payers dollars to Pakistan's Musarraf to control terrorists - despite the reports that Musarraf himself was the head of the Talibans. Conservatives are responsible for misusing tax payers dollars, strengthing terrorism by sleeping with enemy. Results are out in open for sensible people to see who are responsible for killing of Bhutto.

    Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:37:25 PM
    Comment: Bush said that Musarraf (the Talibani criminal) was his personal friend. Conservatives needed to attack Pakistan rather than Iraq. Beating around the bush doesn't work.

    Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:21:08 PM
    Comment: famichin should be sent to Pakistan as a messanger from Bush - and we will see how long he lasts there before his bottom bursting in flames - then he will know how much to love Bush or Talibans. Wake up you fool.

    Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:17:58 PM
    Comment: Faminchin - you have your head stuck in a Talibans a$$, which is worst as your eyes, ears, nose everything is covered with stinky slimy ....tarcoal that refuses to come out of your head...you go to an Islamic republic ..that is where you belong you talibani..dirty trash bag...

    Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 12:08:52 PM
    Comment: faminchin is a supporter of terrorists no matter what country they are in. I bet faminchin is a white male

    Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:03:45 PM
    Comment: faminchin - you should become spokes-person for Talibans and Al queda who claim that they are not jihadi but just a holy warrior - and acting what almight Allah asked for. You need to read history of bloody Islam before you open your mouth to defend criminal acts of muslims. Muslims have not been able to control violence incurred by other muslims - which means that they have in a way supported violence and killing by criminal muslims. All muslims go out of USA before you are kicked out of USA.

  • Posted By: karaswart @ 12/29/2007 6:47:20 PM

    Religion in general is barbarian and anti God. God, defined as the sum of all knowledge-omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient- i.e. the infinite bandwidth , does not need religion. Man has been corrupted by God's unwanted middleman- religion. Is it a wonder that people in religious countries get screwed? Europe has thankfully given up religion and is closer to God and peace.

    • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 8:14:53 PM

      It doesn't matter what you think as you are not significant and no terrorists listens to you. What really matters is what the terrorists think who is willing to kill themselves and kill you too. History of Islam is full of violence and killings and no civilized people can live with them. violence has followed Islam. USA and west should simply get all muslims and their supporters to change to a peaceful religion or have them shipped out of USA to Pakistan or any Islamic republic of their choice, may be gift them to the king of Saudi Arabia.

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 7:58:47 PM

      All religions and denominations are "man made". That is what people need to understand. We have been discussing two book, the Bible and the Koran, but I firmly believe both worship the same God......there is but one God.

      I cannot state any certain religion or denomination is bad or evil, because I believe man can find God in all of them if he truly searches.

      But we aren't talking about a religious group when we talk about these radical islamic terrorist. They are pure evil, sub human. Than raise the Koran, but according to the Koran, suicide is an act that leads to eternally damnation....not 72 virgins as these liars proclaim.

      Bin Laden has a goal of uniting the Muslim world against all others. He kills innoncence and kills Muslims to incite violence. Bin Laden is a cowardly murder who hides behind women's skirts and uses innocent children as shields. None of these extremist can come out into the light, because the light exposes them for the cowardly murderers they really are.

      It should be the Muslim nations hunting down these cowards, yet instead they hide and protect them. Why I just don't know? It could be because they fear them? It shouldn't be the United States job to straighten out this mess, but who else is going to do it?

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/29/2007 6:32:08 PM

    There is only one problem with Islam and that is the chapter of JIHAD. They use this chapter because to them it is exciting, it protects them, it helps them control the masses. All other chapters are boring, no one wants to follow those chapters. The difference between Christian extremist and Muslim extremist is that they the value of human life. Suicide is one of the worst acts in Christianity. Islam glorifies suicide, and rewards the family of "Martyrs". This JIHAD chapter unifies MUSLIMS, they are united by war, not peace. There has not been one instant in history where the KORAN HAS brought peace. It is their culture. Christianity has evolved, just like barbarians eventually became civilized, so did Christianity. Even moderate Muslims are swayed by the JIHAD CHApter. The offspring of these moderates have already carried out attacks in England and have tried in Canada and AMerica. What is amazing is that they were born and raised in North America. It is amazing how the youth are influenced by the Iraq war. They turn on the T.V and become enraged. Their only hope to strike back is JIHAD. Remember Muslims have been indoctrinating their own for centuries. They have finally perfected it. This chapter allows leaders to indoctrinate their people all around the world. The " Ayattolah" has used this doctrine on Salman Rushdie who is an INDIAN. The only way to deal with a nuclear threat, is in private. We should gurantee all countries FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. However if the people choose an extremist government then they must know the consequences. IT IS THESE SAME CONSEQUENCES THAT have DETERed RUSSIA FROM USING THEIR NUCLEAR ARSERNAL AS MUSCLE. WE WILL Annihlate YOU if you threaten with nuclear weapons. That is why the Middle East Government threaten Israel because they know better. The same goes for pakistan, any government that takes power after Free and Fair Elections, will be delivered the same message, In addition, they will assist us in the HUNT FOR BIN LADEN. Keeping Bin LADEN alive seems to be making a lot of people rich. We need to get Bin LADEN and let these There is only one problem with Islam and that is the chapter of JIHAD. They use this chapter because to them it is exciting, it protects them, it helps them control the masses. All other chapters are boring, no one wants to follow those chapters. The difference between Christian extremist and Muslim extremist is that they do not value human life. Suicide is one of the worst acts in Christianity. Islam glorifies suicide, and rewards the family of "Martyrs". This JIHAD chapter unifies MUSLIMS, they are united by war, not peace.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 12/29/2007 6:31:48 PM

    WE NEED TO GET BIN LADEN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF pacistan. Let the U.N do their job. Let's use our force through the U.N. or through an ARAB===ISRAELI COUNCIL, which includes all countries in the region like INDIA, WARIKSTAN, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan. China and India have historically and traditionally had much more in common then uncommon, therefore the grounds for cooperation are naturally existent. We need to build alliances with these nations and let them put the pressure on their neighbors when the misbehave. We well then keep those force in check. It is a lot cheaper or "cost effective", to be smart and build alliances rather than unilaterally attacking these destablization issues, like the death of BHUTTO. The death of Bhutto was a direct result of the JIHAD CHApter. A young man subliminally indoctrinated to destroy his life and twenty one others including BHUTTO, was brainwashed by JIHAD to carry out a political assissination. You cannot seperate Mosque from state in the Muslim world. There should be JIHAD waged against those who misuse this doctrine like the Ayatolah and pacistani military leadership. It is obvious that these leaders knew their reign of power was over and that Bhutto was going to let the "AMERICANS" run the country. It should be no surprise that this assissination happened, in fact the victim even e mailed her own murderers. America needs to stop forcing the issue they should of brought BHUTTO back humbly. SHE SHOULD NOT have been parading. This is war, JIHAD means war. WHEN WILL WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE people have declared war. BHUTTO is death could have been prevented if people really understood what JIHAD means.

  • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 4:43:11 PM

    Seriously, it's not like Al Qaeda had denied other bombings that they have committed. There are two reasons Al Qaeda kills....one is to kill Americans, and the other is to incite the Muslim World into hating Americans.

    Bin Laden is in Pakistan, there is no other place in the world he could operate out of. How much Musharraf knows remains to be seen.

    The lul in the fighting in Iraq has come from the direct actions of our miliary. Al Qaeda has been defeated in Iraq.

    But again, I ask this question of Muslim's around the world. Show me in the Koran where the killing of innonence is acceptable? Tell me where to look in the Koran to find that sucide is a nobel act? If Muslim's would read the Koran that they so dearly believe in, it would be plain to them that there is no Jihad. There is only a handfull of cowardly murderers hiding behind women and children for protection. What Al Qaeda is doing has nothing to do with the Muslim Religion. It's all been cowardly acts with evil intentions.

    It is time for the Muslim World to take action against these murdering cowards and stop waiting around for the United States to do it for them!

  • Posted By: Nizam @ 12/29/2007 9:03:09 AM

    The interference of Bush adminstration in Pakistan has triggered assasination of Benazir.

    • Posted By: Casalinga @ 12/29/2007 11:40:23 AM

      That is the most ignorant thing I have ever read in my life. Right up there with "food made me fat!" The cowards who assisinated her are the ones responsible and no one else unless you are insinuating that Bush paid for the assasination. To be honest I hate a lot of things about the US, and it is my right to, my luxury since I am a citizen here. Everyday I can wake up and thank God that I don't wake up with a birka (sp?) on my head imposed by society and not of my own choosing. I thank GOD I don't have to worry about suicide bombers everyday ruining my life. I can actually live and try to love others different from myself because they are humans and worthy of love.

      • Posted By: aliengrrrl @ 12/29/2007 4:38:08 PM

        I AM American, champ. ..I wake up to the same things ( a little wetter in Seattle tho)
        When I stated "the American People", it was for the Right-wing media to read into.

        not you....

        ahhhh doesn't matter ...it all ends the same way....time passes....people forget....and it becomes a story of Martyrdom to the freaks on the other side, and nothing to us....and by this time next year,we'll both be at the bar, cursing the same *** on the TV, sitting right next to each other.....

  • Posted By: pcw5150 @ 12/29/2007 1:29:28 PM

    If al Qaeda was responsible, I think they would be boasting their success to the world by now. Such a success would be good for their propaganda and recruitment. At present, al Qaeda is denying such involvement. What's more, if al Qaeda was so hell bent on a "regime change" in Pakistan, why haven't they attempted to assassinate Musharraf?

    Frankly, the more likely scenario is a government sponsored assassination made to look like terrorists did it. Musharraf is now rid of his only serious political rival, and can continue his dictatorship without serious political challenge. It's becoming clear that Musharraf is playing both sides of the fence, and bin Laden is only too happy to give up a few leaders now and then so he can continue to operate al Qaeda out of Pakistan.

    It's also becoming clear that al Qaeda is tooling up for a major power play in Pakistan -- which would explain the lull in fighting in Iraq. Iraq means little to al Qaeda in comparison to the ready-made nuclear capability in Pakistan. And yes, I agree with faminchin that Musharraf and al Qaeda are allied in some covert manner, much like the Reagan administration covertly and illegally supported the Contras in Central America.

    Sadly, it's rapidly becoming a "damned if we do, damned if we don't" scenario for US policy. If we cut off aid, Musharraf will only align himself more closely with al Qaeda to stay in power. So, we continue to send billions of dollars in aid so Musharraf can, at the very least, quietly ignore al Qaeda's presence in Pakistan. A more devastating possibility is Musharraf using US aid to directly support bin Laden - if that's happening, THEN we have a big, big problem.

    • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 2:08:50 PM

      There is no way of knowing if Musarraf is not pocketing money given from US himself most of it, and then giving some to support Al Queda and Talibans as they are hands and gloves.

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 11:35:32 AM

    Quran teaches killings and violence against anyone who is against the terrorists. All muslims are supposed to support terrorists (fundamentalists) according to Quran otherwise they will face death. That is why Bhutto died because she opposed Musarraf and terrorists. All muslims are responsible for killings of innocents. USA is not a place for muslims.

    • Posted By: pcw5150 @ 12/29/2007 1:43:24 PM

      Ah yes, spoken like a true evangelical. "WorldWithoutMuslims" indeed -- such intolerance is why we're in this place to begin with! Radical Islamist intolerance a la bin Laden et al vs. Radical Evangelical intolerance a la Jerry Fallwell et al -- it has all the makings of the bloody Crusades deja vu. And if you think this wonderful government in the US is blameless for slaying innocents, then you are truly brainwashed.

      Religious fanatics and their petulant intolerance for other beliefs have no place in governments. All the major conflicts of mankind have root causes in religion -- ALL OF THEM. SO, spare us your Fallwell-esque "Onward Christian Soldiers" pep talk -- spare us your "love it or leave it" BS. But most of all, spare us of your intolerance -- for it is people like you who are at the root cause for all this conflict in the world today.

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 11:44:06 AM

      You are wrong my friend. The Koran does not teach violence! No where in the Koran will you find a passage that says it's ok to murder innocence!

      What we have here is a handfull of cowards, hiding behind women and children, unable to step out into the daylight for others to see, because if the light is shown on their movement, they will be exposed for the cowardly murderers they really are!

      There is no Jihad, only a few murdering cowards attempting to decieve Muslims around the world.

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:51:04 PM

    Bush gave billions of tax-payers dollars to Pakistan's Musarraf to control terrorists - despite the reports that Musarraf himself was the head of the Talibans. Conservatives are responsible for misusing tax payers dollars, strengthing terrorism by sleeping with enemy. Results are out in open for sensible people to see who are responsible for killing of Bhutto.

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:37:25 PM

    Bush said that Musarraf (the Talibani criminal) was his personal friend. Conservatives needed to attack Pakistan rather than Iraq. Beating around the bush doesn't work.

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:21:08 PM

    famichin should be sent to Pakistan as a messanger from Bush - and we will see how long he lasts there before his bottom bursting in flames - then he will know how much to love Bush or Talibans. Wake up you fool.

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:17:58 PM

    Faminchin - you have your head stuck in a Talibans a$$, which is worst as your eyes, ears, nose everything is covered with stinky slimy ....tarcoal that refuses to come out of your head...you go to an Islamic republic ..that is where you belong you talibani..dirty trash bag...

  • Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 11:59:20 AM

    What an old tired story...use the Al Qaeda excuse for anything, anywhere in the world. There is too much press given to the standard "Al Qaeda didit"
    I suppose next we'll read a new pseudo-Warren commission report that states JFK was killed by Al Qaeda out on a Turkey shoot in Dallas. yawn.

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 12:06:25 PM

      You are just suffering from Bush Hatred. You and other Democrats like you. It is a mental illness that prevents you from having rational discussion without looking iggnorant. There is a cure. You just need to pull your head out of the Donkey's butt, get some q-tips and clean all the donkey dung out of your ears.......then take a look around at what's going on.

      That is the biggest problem the United States has.....too many people walking around with their head stuck up either a donkey or elephants butt!

      • Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 12:10:18 PM

        You are suffering from ASSumptions like any illiterate moron who lacks critical thinking skills and is only interested in promoting religion. go take up the cross elsewhere *my friend* go to Pakistan

  • Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 12:08:52 PM

    faminchin is a supporter of terrorists no matter what country they are in. I bet faminchin is a white male

  • Posted By: WorldWithoutMuslims @ 12/29/2007 12:03:45 PM

    faminchin - you should become spokes-person for Talibans and Al queda who claim that they are not jihadi but just a holy warrior - and acting what almight Allah asked for. You need to read history of bloody Islam before you open your mouth to defend criminal acts of muslims. Muslims have not been able to control violence incurred by other muslims - which means that they have in a way supported violence and killing by criminal muslims. All muslims go out of USA before you are kicked out of USA.

  • Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 12:03:09 PM

    For all we know Al Qaeda could really be backed by the Southern Baptist Convention.

  • Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 11:09:18 AM

    In Sept. 2006 the Bush Administration went out of their way to extend hospitalities to Musharraf to visit a Doctor friend of his in Paris, Texas. It was odd to see the 20-car motorcade winding its way through the highways of North Texas. Why such protection and hospitality offered to Musharraf and yet what was offered to Bhutto by the Bush Administration? Nothing. Bush claims they supported Bhutto's efforts for Democracy but the reality is that Bush supports Military Madmen like Musharraf.

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 11:39:04 AM

      What you don't realize is that Bhutto was not threatened while she was in the United States. Bhutto was a Harvard Graduate and needed no protection while in the US. I have to imagine it's difficult for you to understand how freedom and democracy work, since all you have ever know in your region of the world is sucide bombers and murdering cowards that hide behind women and children telling you that America is the cause of the worlds problems.

      Go read your Koran, and you will see for yourself. This radical islamic movement is pure evil.....demons that kill innocence. Sucide is not an action that is rewarded with 72 virgins as these liars proclaim, it is an action that leads to eternally damation according to the Koran.

      Wake up my friend.....there is no jihad....only a handfull of cowardly murderers decieving you!

      • Posted By: Chlois @ 12/29/2007 11:56:24 AM

        you miss the point faminchin. It's not about whether she needed protection in the US it's about the perceived lack of support given to her vs. the amount of support that Bush gives to the military madman like Musharraf.
        WTF does the Koran have anything to do with this you ignorant git! Go lick Bush's balls for all I care

        • Posted By: faminchin @ 12/29/2007 12:01:34 PM

          So you are not Muslim.....just a typical Democrat that is so wrapped up in your hatred for Bush that you are willing to incite trouble. There are many others in the United States that suffer from the same sickness as you. And it is a sickness. What you need to do is pull your head out of the donkey' butt once in awhile and take a look around to see what's going on!

    • Posted By: Casalinga @ 12/29/2007 11:34:02 AM

      Gee, maybe because he would be an idiot in the muslim world to not extend relations to other men in power? Last I knew women are not typically political leaders and perhaps even more so in that part of the world. Protection offered...duh....the guy is THE PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN> BHUTTO WAS NOT. THE REAL QUESTION IS....WHAT WILL BE THE EXCUSE OF THE SUICIDE BOMBERS THE NEXT TIME WHEN BUSH IS LONG GONE???? GUESS WHAT ONE YEAR LEFT AND THE EXCUSES ARE OVER? WHO WILL WE BLAME THEN?????

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