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  • Posted By: youheardithere1st @ 12/31/2007 6:32:48 AM

    jeez, let me see, according to some reagan had nothing to do with winning the cold war, was in the pocket of the oil companies[ gas was 60 cents] had nothing to do with restored pride of america after the dreadful years of jimmy carter,one of you even compares america to the ussr!!! i remind all of you that if you revise history doesn't make it so. i lived during the reagan years, they were good years. he was the ONLY president to look the russians in the eye and tell those thugs what they were, now you may not like me saying it, but thats the truth. ask eastern europeans about him, he gave them a hope they never had, like him or not he was a great man, you saying hes not doesnt change that. who would you rather be in a foxhole with, reagan or clinton????????? hahahaha, not even close, is it????and as for patti, i might have listened to you had you not showed up at your fathers funeral looking like a hooker. and while we are on the subject your brother ron is no better.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/31/2007 1:51:12 PM

      FROM THE USMC I WOULD PREFERE KERRY

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/31/2007 1:50:06 PM

      I SERVED DURING REAGAN AND BUSH SR. NO SAINTS IN EITHER ONE NO CONCEPT FROM EITHER ONE AND BOTH LISTEN TO NO ONE

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/31/2007 1:48:49 PM

      Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency program to arm Islamic mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, 1979 to 1989. The Program relied heavily on using the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) as an intermediary for funds distribution. Along with funding from similar programs from Britain's MI6 and SAS, Saudi Arabia and the People's Republic of China, the ISI armed and trained over 100,000 insurgents between 1978 and 1992. Somewhere between $3???$20 billion in US funds were funneled into the country to train and equip troops with weapons, including Stinger man-portable air-defense systems.


      26 Aug 1988 SA-7On July 3, 1979, U.S. President Carter signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan.[1] Following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and installation of a more pro-Soviet president, Hafizullah Amin, Carter announced "The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the greatest threat to peace since the Second World War".[2] American funding started with 20-30 million dollars per year in 1980 and rose to $630 million a year in 1987.[3]

      The US government has been criticized for allowing Pakistan to channel a disproportionate amount of its funding to controversial Afghan resistance leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar,[4] who Pakistani officials believed was "their man".[5] Hekmatyar has been criticized for killing other mujahideen and attacking civilian populations, including shelling Kabul with American-supplied weapons, causing 2,000 casualties. Hekmatyar was said to be friendly with Osama bin Laden, founder of al-Qaeda, who was running an operation for assisting "Afghan Arab" volunteers fighting in Afghanistan, called Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK). Alarmed by his behavior Pakistan leader General Zia warned Hekmatyar that "It was Pakistan that made him an Afghan leader and it is Pakistan who can equally destroy him if he continues to misbehave".[6] According to a Newsweek article, in the late 1980s, Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, concerned of the growing strength of the Islamist movement, told President George H. W. Bush, "You are creating a Frankenstein". Author Gilles Kepel reports that American funding of Hekmatyar and his Hezbi Islami party was cut off immediately following the withdrawal of the Soviets.[7]

      The U.S. says all of its funds went to native Afghan rebels and denies that any of its funds were used to supply Osama bin Laden or foreign Arab mujahideen. It is estimated that 35,000 foreign Muslims from 43 Islamic countries participated in the war.[8][9][10][11]

      Sale of non-US arms to Pakistan for destination to Afghanistan was facilitated by Israel
      SO MUCH FOR YOUR OPINION OF CARTER AS IT WAS HE NOT REAGAN WHO GOT RUSSIA FROM OUT THE MIDDLE-EAST EVEN IF WE DID CREATE A FRANKENSTEIN JUST MEANS BUSH DON'T LISTEN LIKE HIS SON

    • Posted By: SuperCameron @ 12/31/2007 9:59:59 AM

      Would I rather be in a foxhole with Reagan or Clinton? Please. Those guys gained the Presidency by avoiding foxholes all together. There is a tremendous difference between a person qualified to be President and a person qualified to die in a foxhole, and that's why I've made it a point to avoid foxholes entirely. As the current President, Clinton, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, Truman, FDR, Coolidge, Harding, and so on mangaged to do.

  • Posted By: abadreview @ 12/31/2007 11:13:53 AM

    Each and every republican candidate is unqualified, and a disgrace to America. In 2008 this nation will choose a democrat as our next President, and that candidate will win by a landslide. Can you imagine Obama debating these republican candidates? It's practically unfair, his intellect and character will triumph and even embarass any one of these Republican candidates. The day of reckoning is drawing closer.

    • Posted By: ReasonableRepublican @ 12/31/2007 11:55:13 AM

      Do you really think that the American public vote based on the ability of the candidates to debate? If that were so, how did Bush win? First or second election? How did Bush Sr. win? We don't vote based on the ability of the candidate to debate. A Republican will likely win, not in a landslide, due to the Democrat majority congress failing to make good on its promises. That is what the American public remembers.

      • Posted By: sciencerules @ 12/31/2007 1:03:37 PM

        "... Democrat majority congress failing to make good on its promises" ??? What world are you living in? Republican stonewalling, by sorry George Bush, his enablers in Congress and his ???administration???, and his few remaining die-hard supporters, is what repeatedly stopped Democratic initiatives from moving forward since Democrats assumed congressional majorities. Only Republicans would block every effort by Democrats to improve American society, and stop the insanity of this administration's foreign policy, and then point a finger at Democrats and cry, "you failed!" My friend, what the electorate ought to remember in Nov 2008 is the spectacular failure and disaster of George Bush???s presidency, and that the Republican political machine is what brought this all to us.

        • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/31/2007 1:43:23 PM

          ABOUT FRINKKIN TIME THE TRUTH BE TOLD

  • Posted By: waltflowers @ 12/31/2007 1:21:07 PM

    MSNBC should be ashamed that it reprinted this drivel. She even evokes the word imitate and says her father never imitated. What an obtuse person? Doesn't she know he was an actor before he was a politician. Heck, just what is it that actors do? Let me see. Could it be imitation????

    What schtick? She's got brass. But, Newsweek should know better than to print this garbage.

  • Posted By: Matthew in Chicago @ 12/31/2007 12:16:52 PM

    my apologies, all those question marks were quotations and the author is surely Patti Davis (not a he)

  • Posted By: EscapeToday @ 12/31/2007 12:12:10 PM

    I agree with the article. It is a pity the Republican party is now defined as the conservative religious evangelical (read holy roller) party. However, this is the brand recognition the candidates chose embrace. Once I was a Rockefeller-Reagan republican. I can no longer relate or associate with a party that is marketing politics and religion in a very hypocritical way. During the sex scandals we saw starting with Foley and Reverend Haggard, I personally began refering to the GOP as the Gay Old Party.

  • Posted By: mbrian @ 12/31/2007 12:11:03 PM

    I always think it is strange that Patti Davis seems to know so much about her father. Wasn't she the one who stood against everything he believed in and was embarrassed by her father and was an embarrassment to her father. The only time I saw her standing up for her father when she did her New Age speech at his funeral (my impression was that she was on something). Let me remind her, her father used the word God more than any recent President I can think of and appearred at every possible religious meeting while he was campaigning.

  • Posted By: map529 @ 12/31/2007 11:13:19 AM

    I am amazed at how people can act so surprised when conservatives invoke the past "saints" of the parties (we won't discuss whether the policies and tactics in fact were racist, sexist, and sought to oppress the working class to make the rich richer qualifies a person for sainthood, since in the world of conservatives, religious and political, it seems to do so). The very nature of conversativism is to look backward. Those who subscribe to the philosopy of conservatism (religious and political--and these days they are one and the same) look back to the good old days when men were men, women were chattel, minorities were little more than labor devices, and the Christianity was pure and we did not have to acknowledge other people in the world, let alone live try to respect them as human beings. So, Ms. Davis, accept the 'legacy' of your father, and recognize what his (and your) religious and political beliefs were all about and quit whining--unless this is just a cynical attempt to keep your name in the public sphere.

    • Posted By: ReasonableRepublican @ 12/31/2007 12:09:06 PM

      Religious and political philosophies as well as cynicism are all things protected under the constitution of these united states. Fought for and believed in by Republicans and Democrats alike. Reagan was a leader that continued to press for these freedoms. Your posting here is simply leveraging a right given to you by many who have gone on before. So, go ahead and foster and facilitate your cynicism. It's your right. It is also my right to reflect on the past and pray for the future.

    • Posted By: youheardithere1st @ 12/31/2007 12:06:19 PM

      i remind you that had it not been for the republicans the civil rights act would not have passed[ 1964-1965 ]there were no republicans in the south and the democratic southern senators including al gore's father and robert byrd of west virginia, who is still in the senate, all voted against it. so did senator fulbright, bill clintons idol. so you can not generalize. not all dopes are liberals, but all liberals are dopes, how about that generalization?????

  • Posted By: Matthew in Chicago @ 12/31/2007 12:08:43 PM

    I agree with author but I think he is totally wrong.
    Twice our great country elected a ???good man, good christian, and good ???merican??? over arguably better Americans, better Christians, and better men. (If that doesn???t prove the failure of democracy I don???t know what possibly could.) Now cometh Mike Huckabee another ???good man, good Christian and good ???merican??? God help us.
    The truth about Ronald Reagan is that he dismantled crucial civil programs while allowing outrageous pork-barrel spending by his congressional allies. He claimed he was making the federal government smaller while he increased federal spending and created a federal deficit we now take for granted. He allowed his wealthy base to become even wealthier so all that wealth could ???trickle down??? to the middle class. (Unfortunately, it trickled down and right and out of our country.) Ronald Reagan may be the most contradictory figure in our history. But the truth is that, he won the presidency by misleading and lying to the American people; just like our next president surely will.

  • Posted By: noneed @ 12/31/2007 11:55:14 AM

    i think your father is rolling over in his grave. Knowing that you are a Commyfornia Democrate.

  • Posted By: noneed @ 12/31/2007 11:54:01 AM

    i think your father would roll over if he knew what a Deomcrate you are.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 12/31/2007 11:52:57 AM

    2007 "Bloodiest year ever in Iraq" so much for less, is more!

  • Posted By: daplane @ 12/30/2007 11:24:06 AM

    Davis is a traitor not only to America but to her own family. She hated her father for years and cut off contact with him. What an ungrateful traitor.

    Shut up Davis and crawl back under you rock and take your gay brother with you.

    • Posted By: map529 @ 12/31/2007 11:26:26 AM

      This is the kind of tolerance conservatives (religious and political) are known for--i.e. if you disagree with them and express your own opinion, you are a traitor. Darn that pesky Constitution for guarantee certain rights. . .wait, Bush, and Dick, and Fredo have been joyously gutting the Constitution, since as Fredo seemed to think--it was quaint, and Bush feels "it's just a piece of paper". Got to love those wonderful Christian conservatives who are the GOP.

  • Posted By: mdn77792008 @ 12/31/2007 2:33:33 AM

    Actually, Regan did a lot of damage to the United States as far as energy conversation, supporting the oil companies almost as much as Bush potentially destroying any possibility of becoming a leader in the world finding new energy sources. Of course, the Oil Companies had Regan in their back pocket like most Republicans.

    • Posted By: jweissatown @ 12/31/2007 2:49:22 AM

      really? and the $300,000 the saudi government gave to bill clinton for his library?

      • Posted By: fabooj @ 12/31/2007 11:21:02 AM

        ??? What does one have to do with the other. When faced with different opinions or facts, why are you conservatives so quick to yell "Clinton"? It's kinds of psychotically obsessive, ya know. But...since you brought it up, some facts are in order (as usual, when you people bring up Clinton).

        The Saudi Royal family gave about $10M to the George H. W. Bush Library. That is the same amount they gave the William J. Clinton Library. Since private donors and Goverments have always given to these presidential libraries, I fail to see the point of your uninformed comment.

  • Posted By: fi!!mor3 @ 12/30/2007 10:49:36 PM

    Good article.... I thought Reagan was... at best... incompetent... and a well-timed recognized name... Republicans just can't let go....

    • Posted By: jweissatown @ 12/31/2007 2:13:34 AM

      just like you liberals can't let go of jfk, watergate, and hippies? it always amazes me that those who accuse of incompetence themselves could never run a hot dog stand, let alone lead a nation.

      • Posted By: fabooj @ 12/31/2007 11:17:34 AM

        Um....that would be conservatives who keep bringing that stuff up. I'm positive you'll invoke Jane Fonda's name even though people born after '72 only think of her as Barbarella. Hippies? Didn't they all become Yuppie Reaganites in the '80s? What a joke.

        And yes Reagan was an incredibly clueless president who did a lot more harm to this country than good, who was given credit for things that were already happening or happened because of other people. Let's not forget his utter neglect of the AIDS crisis going on around him, his cutting of services that increased the number of homeless on the streets and the wasteful spending on false security measures.

  • Posted By: sciencerules @ 12/31/2007 11:05:24 AM

    "Can't we go back to respecting the privacy of religious faith and stop using God as a campaign tool?" Thank you! At last, someone has the sense to step up and state the obvious. Faith IS a private matter, and it belongs in a private, NOT a public, setting. It has no place in public life. It belongs in churches and homes, NOT in public schools, government discourse, or political debate. A person's worthiness to be President has nothing to do with their religious belief system (see current occupant of the White House), and everything to do with their intellect, judgment, temperament, humility, openness to ideas, knowledge of history, respect for societies and cultures other than our own, and political skill in advancing America???s interests in the world. America, and the world, will be better off when religion resumes its rightful place in church, mosque, synagogue, and private homes, and recedes from domestic and international politics, public schools, governments, and fueling of international terrorism.

  • Posted By: DaleWood @ 12/31/2007 11:03:18 AM

    Why would anyone care to envoke Ronald Reagan's name. We are still suffering from the ill effects of his "Trickle Down" economics. For that matter, How did he get elected in the first place, when he couldn't even get star billing next to a Chimpanze in Bedtime for Bonzo. Just shows you how really stupid the American public is!
    From an American that desires a stateman for President, not the bumbling oafs that are currently running.

  • Posted By: ReasonableRepublican @ 12/30/2007 8:59:37 PM

    Oh. Yeah. Ms. Davis, I knew President Reagan, and you are no Reagan.

    • Posted By: fi!!mor3 @ 12/30/2007 10:58:47 PM

      There are no reasonable republicans...

      • Posted By: ReasonableRepublican @ 12/31/2007 10:34:23 AM

        Perhaps you have never met one. I am one. Now you have met one.

  • Posted By: prt1231 @ 12/31/2007 10:21:18 AM

    Patti,
    Your father would be proud of you. You have stated the case so clearly. Don't preach to me Mike, I know my religion. As for Mitt, which answer to you want today? The entire choice this year is so sad. No one on the republican side is worthy on the position, and the democrats can't get past Hillary's past. We need a real leader and there are none out there. Abortion and gay rights are personal choices, not to be legislated by a government that gets into wars over trumped up reasons and lies. Bill Clintin might have been a womanizer, but so were many other president's. At least he didn't lead us into a war over lies and he left office with a sizable surplus in the treasury, something the current moron from Texas can't lay claim to.

  • Posted By: BillG48 @ 12/31/2007 10:17:19 AM

    You are your father's daughter .... written well with great feeling and a some humor. I love it will be reading everthing that I can that you write. O'by the way run for the office and give the Clintons some fear of Reagan again. Just joking who want such a poor paying job for all the suffering one has to experience at the hands of the press looking for headlines. That job only ages one fast and you never can be right for half of the people do not agree with you some of the time. And the interview process for the position cost a lot of money. WOW!

  • Posted By: BillG48 @ 12/31/2007 10:09:55 AM

    You are your father's daughter, greatly written I plan on reading more on what you say. When are you going on the campaign trail it would be a good added item to the times now. Thanks for your opinion.

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