Fully known, fully vetted indeed, and that's her unsurmountable problem. 8 years of Clintons was more than enough.
Aboard Air Hillary, aides revive a familiar storyline.
Fully known, fully vetted indeed, and that's her unsurmountable problem. 8 years of Clintons was more than enough.
Bill Clinton was great. He did some triangulating, but unlike Hillary he could sell it as coherent policy. I'd take another 8 years of Bill Clinton if possible. His wife is another matter. I don't think she can get elected.
She's been the frontrunner all along. She's obviously electable. Speeches and inspiration wear off...just look at the G.W. Bush/Twin Tower model. When the smoke clears, someone competent still needs to make policy.
The only person the repubicians can beat is OBAMA so there going to cross over and vote for him ever chance they get.Obama's personal life and no experence makes him the only democrat they can beat.The repubicians are scared to death of her so there not going to attack him until the election in Nov.
You've got it entirely backwards. Obama is the toughest match up for the cons. Hillary is the easiest. That's why they have been acting like she's the presumptive nominee. They know where her weaknesses are and are prepared to exploit them.
Naive...the Democratic nominee is a shoe in. Everyone's had it with the Republicans and their policies. It's cyclical and time for the Dems.
The article's author makes an asertion, in her last sentence, that Mr Obama will meet an "inevitable GOP barrage of attacks on...his exotic ethnic background." I would like to challenge her to list what recent historic data she used to make this charge? For me, neither sex or race is even considered a factor in the presdential race compared to qualifications. Isn't that true for most Americans? I believe so..
Considering the fact that this is the first time in the history of this country that the front-runners of a party were either black OR female, there is no recent historic data. If you think there aren't people out there in this country that will refuse to vote for a black or female, you are naive to the extreme.
Extreme analysis.
Obama stresses hope, but as Hillary well knows, one goes to a meeting of Middle Eastern leaders hoping for success, but hope is only the first half ot the task; hope must be fulfilled
by action and action procedes from experience.
How does she know? Wasn't she stuck entertaining the other leaders' wives, while Bill did that actual presidential stuff?
Theoretically...do we really know what goes on inside the Whitehouse, omniscient one.
WE ALREAY KNOW OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION. NEW HAMpSHIRE HAS MANY YOUNG COLLEGE GRADUATES AND INDEpENDENTS. THIS IS OBAMA'S BASE, AND HE IS GOING TO WIN BY A LARGE MARGIN THERE. THIS IS NOT pROpAGANDA, THIS IS A MOVEMENT FOR REAL CHANGE AND NOTHING CAN STOp IT. THIS WAVE IS GOING TO RISE HIGHER AFTER EVERY STATE.
EDWARDS MIGHT COME IN SECOND IN NEW HAMpSHIRE, NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT.WHY/ THE ESTABLISHED MEDIA, IE. MSNBC IS BACKING HILLARY. THERE ARE pEOpLE WITHIN THE HILLARY CAMp WHO REFUSE TO ACCEpT THE NEW pOLITICS OF CHANGE. ALL MY ANALYSIS HAVE BEEN DEAD ON. MY COMMENTS ARE SO ACCURATE THAT pEOpLE ACTUALLY THINK I WORK FOR ONE OF THE CAMpAIGNS. WHEN pEOpLE ARE DEFEATED, LIKE THE HILLARY CAMp, THEY BECOME BITTER AND DESpERATE AND REACT LIKE TOM. WITH A LOT OF ANGER AND DENIAL. IT IS THEIR WAY OF TAKING BACK CONTROL FROM A SUpERIOR CAMpAIGN. HILLARY UNDERESTIMATED YOUNG pEOpLE IN THIS COUNTRY, MAYBE SHE THOUGHT THIS GROUp WAS 'NAIVE" AND COULD NOT SEE THROUGH HER SCRIpTED CAMpAIGN. HOpEFULLY THE HILLARY CAMp WILL LEARN FROM pEOpLE LIKE TOM, YOU LOOK DUMB WHEN YOU REACT NEGATIVE AND BEGIN TO LIE. WHAT A pOLITICAL FAN LIKE ME WILL BE LOOKING AT IN NEW HAMpSHIRE IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN OBAMA AND McCAIN FOR THE INDEpENENT VOTERS. THIS WILL BE A GOOD INDICATOR TO SEE HOW STRONG OBAMA IS NATIONALLY.
LET'S LOOK AHEAD TO THE pRESEDENTIAL ELECTION. OBAMA VS ?. THIS IS WHERE THE ANN COULTIER'S AND THE RUSH LIMBALLS WILL BEGIN THEIR MADNESS. BOTH ANN COULTIER AND RUSH LIMBALLS HAVE BEEN ADDICTED TO pAIN KILLERS. THAT IS WHY, AT TIMES, THEY SOUND LIKE TOM OR LIKE SOME CRACK HEAD FROM THE "HOOD'. THEY GO ON THESE TIRADES WHICH SEND A MESSAGE OF HATE AND RACISM. THE ONLY WAY THE REpEBULICANS CAN WIN IS TOO LIE THEY DO NOT HAVE A REALISTIC CHANCE OF WINNING THE pRESIDENCY. pEOpLE WANT CHANGE.
BY THE WAY TOM, I DONATED ONE Dollar to the Downsnyndrome society at the outback steakshouse restaurant today.
Why do people not know how to use the Caps-Lock key in 2008. Go to your community college and take a keyboarding class, please.
Just to harrass you.
Hey, don't count Hillary out as yet!!!!!!!!!!!! She is still in the lead when it comes to delegates. Even though Obama won 39% in Iowa, he only got 18 of the 57 delegates that Iowa has. She got 16. Even more so, New Hampshire only has 22 delegates and no one will get 15. After New Hampshire its Michigan that has 128 delegates. She is up by more than 20 points in that State. Then you have Nevada that has 25 and she is up with over 20 points. Should I go on? Ok, I will. S. Caroline and Florida is back to back. She is down in S. Carolina but up by 20 points in Florida. S. Caroline has 24 delegates and Florida, 182. And then there comes New York and the others on 5th February. So, the media is wrong in a way because it is not reporting on what I just said. She does not have to be the come back kid in New Hampshire . What she needs to do is get about 9. Even if Obama wins all of the delegates and that cannot happen, she will still be in the lead.
According to all the national polls since Iowa, she is still up by 22 or more points. So please, the come back kid is for someone who left, She never did.
Wishful thinking in the extreme. Hillary is wooden and unlikable. That would be surmountable if she isn't so wishy washy in her positions on just about everything. Obama is going to take her out.
Hyperbolic hogwash.
I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO ELECT SOMEONE WHO ONLY GIVES GOOD INSPIRATIONAL SPEECHES, WRITTEN BY SOME ADVISER OF HIM OR HER. LET'S NOT FORGET GEORGE W. BUSH IS A VERY GOOD SPEAKER, AND WHERE HAS HE TAKING US TO?
Hill is now taking charge in the Panic Room and she telegraph her punches
with a bunker mentality in combination with the vaunted Clinton slash and burn
"stragedy". If I may borrow Gen. Norman S. words, she is no strategist, she
just turn strategy into tragedy ! I now wonder if she is really a Democrat
considering that she have been a Goldwater girl through his death, as evidenced
by attending his funeral but not for fellow first lady Pat ! She is the one
using the GOP dirty tricks against "fellow" Democrats, peddling lies repeatedly
even when nobody was listening to her anymore, as she continued to play it like
a broken record ! Hello, is there any big Democrats left who have balls to
restrain this wild woman now before she damages the party ? Her dirty
fingerprints are now exposed all over for the whole world to see and what they
see is a wounded animal who doesn't care anything at all but only her pursuit
for power ! A huge backlash against her mindless accusations is reflected with
Barack's 2 digit lead now in the polls and might actually came in third if this
continues.
Wow, after reading your numerous comments about Hillary, you sound like a madman who was paid to spew venom about the Clintons. Just out of cucriosity, how did you become an expert on the "evil" side of the Clintons because it is apparent by your comments that they have done nothing right or good for this country? How much are you getting paid for anyway?
SURELY I'M NOT A FAN OF SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON'S POLITICS
BUT STILL THERE WAS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN VICTORIOUS IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT THE POLES WE HIGHTENED TO
SET UP SENATOR OBAMA FOR A SUDDEN FALL OR SHOCK, BUT HE WAS UNTOUCHED AND IN THE END GAVE HIS SUPPORTERS A GOOD SPEECH. I CERTAINLY DON'T BELIEVE THIS WAS COME BACK 2
FOR THE CILNTONS, HOWEVER SENATOR OBAMA DID EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. FORTUNATELY FOR SENATOR OBAMA THIS "TRICKY POLE" APPEARED IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE RACE.
Counting Michigan is a joke. Neither Obama or Edwards is even on the ballot there because Michigan violated the rules by moving there primary up. The delegates may not even be seated.
"This just in, Hillary up 20% versus nobody"
"His record is not very well known. She is fully known, fully vetted."
That's her problem right there. People know her too well and don't like what they see. Better to take a chance on someone who might turn out to be good rather than on someone you know will be bad.
You sound like your talking about children..You should think twice before acting.
What kind of morons are these Clintonistas anyway? They talk about change then stand up on stage with Slick willy who is hated by at least one half of the country and Madeline not so bright Albright standing there. Theyre old guard status quo tax and spend idiots. Whats the change here? Iowans can obviously see through Princess Hillary's BS!
Don't you remember the glorious Bill Clinton years? Those were the best 8 years of our country's history. Everybody loved us. Life was fantastic. It was a utopia. Almost like being in heaven.
And less than 8 months after Bill left, 9/11!!! In a large part caused by his neglect of 8 years of warning signs of Al Q, starting with the 1993 bombing of the Twin Towers. Good years because he worked with the Congress ( Rep ) to get things done,
I can't stand Bill Clinton. I was just mocking the people who claim that he's our best President and that his 8 years in office were some of the best years of our lives.
You may have tried to mock. But your statements were actually correct. To accurately mock, you must exaggerate the truth slightly in order for the mocking to be evident. To put forward such splendid facts about the Clinton years comes across as straight-forward commentary and invites misinterpretation.
keep drinking that cool aid johnsonium, you must work for move on.org
Oops..missed that
what are you smoking? Isn't thisthe time period when the Cole was bombed and he did nothing? Or when he painted nato markings on american planes to bomb the serbs? He was an incompetent embarassing pervert of a president.
Nice right-wing talking points which have long ago been discredited. Watch much Fox News?
Um...You're wrong about Bill's popularity. Bill Clinton, if he could run, would blow all of the candidates out of the water.
That said, it's sad to see him up there stumping for his doomed wife. She has the smarts but not the common touch of her husband.
Not a chance. He is only popular with the left wing nut case liberals. Everyone else has him figured out to be a pervert and an embarassment as a former President. Take a good look at what happened in Iowa. Hillary was actually doing rather well until Bill hit the ground and started "helping" by going around the state talking about himself for hours on end. Suddenly her numbers plummeted. Iowans are farm people and no what sh*t smells like, and they have the Clintonistas all figured out.
Sorry neebster but that's just your opinion masquerading as the truth -- the reality is different. I personally believe Bill Clinton received more credit than is due him but Johnsonium is right about his popularity.
Exactly. The more people persecuted him, the more his popularity grew. I'm bereft to explain it from a political standpoint, because it flies against long-posited political axioms, but it is the truth.
"Common touch"? The only common touch that sexual predator had was his stalking interns and other staff members wives. When investigated, he committed purjury, was impeached and had his attorney's
license revoked. Can you imagine Hillary in the White House with Bill prowling the hall ways looking for fresh victims.
You're obviously a Freeper trying to spoil this site with your nonsense. Bill Clinton is immensely popular and got more popular as the Congress persecuted him over a personal matter.
What kind of morons are the Clintonistas anyway? She talks about change then stands on stage with slick willy and madeline half bright. Half of the country hates him, and nobody admires Albright: They are the old standard guard status quo tax and spend knuckleheads of the past. You think princess hillary would have a clue? Obviously the good folks of Iowa saw through her BS. She can try and spin it any way she wants it but people are starting to see through her lies.
Bill Clinton would win in a landslide if allowed to run today. You have obviously been spending too much time watching Sean Hannity.
and you must be inhaling what you're smoking if you believe bubba is good for anything
Much talk about Obama and Hillary. Seems people keep overlooking the candidate who finished second in Iowa, and the candidate who wins handily when matched against any of the Republicans in the election--John Edwards. Edwards speaks about the systemic kind of change that is needed if our democracy is going to survive, while Obama and Hillary will only be business as ususal.
If we don't get the corporate control of our country under control, and roll back their omnipresent influence, we are doomed as a nation where government serves the needs and will of the people. This election is too important to throw up a Democratic candidate who will go down in defeat, as both Hillary and Obama will if becoming the candidate.
Better to quit keeping Edwards out of the discussion and think long-term strategy here to wrest our nation back from the perilous precipice it teeters.
Edwards has fabulous ideas, but no presidential presence. Look at his performance in the 2004 debate. I despise Dick Cheney, but he had Edwards' lunch.
Can we stop this hillary machine , YES!!!! I am a die hard so called right-wing voter. It's time we stop this bickering between us and them. hillary will take us back to pre-911 . She claims 35 years experience doing what? Hosting tea parties at the White House does not constitute experience !!!! please go home hillary soon !!!!!!!!!!!! Think about it america
Sounds like your a little to the right of Hilter....to bad he can't run or he would probably have your vote....you probably had no problem voting for the drunk and coke user bush did you....oh i forgot if your a right winger (rush limbaugh or bush its ok ) but let President Clinton smoke a little pot and thats a different story..it then becomes wrong.Just think if you right wingers had been in office from the 1700's we could all still be working 6 days a week have no social security still own slaves be a land owner to vote get to pay poll tax to vote women couldn't vote...i could go on and on but people like you would not get it ,,,you live in the past!!!!! if it had not been for 911 bush would have be a one term president like his dad.THINK ABOUT IT AMERICA
Exactly. I think Hillary will have trouble in the general election, but I'd prefer her to any of the con candidates any day of the week. It's not personal. It's about the right fit. In these times, it takes a special Democrat to get elected president. Hillary simply doesn't have the necessary personality components to appeal to a wide enough audience.
We want change. We want change. We want change. No more Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton spin cycle. Obama has exercised superior, unique judgment among all the frontrunners in not supporting our frolic and detour in Iraq from the start. He alone can unify our country. United we stand. Divided we fall. No unity, no change.
More on why Obama is the only candidate who can unify America to achieve real change: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/2/22840/86271/686/429523
This is very dangerous thinking. Obama is a man and a politician not a messiah (even if Oprah suggests it). Young Americans could become disillusioned with our political system and drop out if he- Obama does not win or if he disapoints in governence (which always happens). Frankly I take it as a personal attack when Obama criticizes Hillary for vote on Iraq; I also supported that vote and so did 70% of Americans at that time. And so did Newsweek, New York Times etc. We all made that decision on the facts known. We did not have a crystal ball or insde CIA info like Obama. Like everything else he never explains the details of his stands.
The difference is the 70% of Americans that supported it would now likely describe their support as a mistake. Hillary refuses to admit her mistake and hides behind the intelligence available at the time. At least Edwards admits his error.
Hillary is the worst example of a person except her husband, Bill told his lover Jennifer Flowers that she had more women than him, She took thousands of drug and criminal money from her perverted husbands pardons. She rented the Lincoln bedroom to a drug dealer, she stole the Whitehouse furniture, and on and on see Clintons scandals.com and pardons.com and no more hillary.com
Wow. Inarticulate and completely misinformed. How do you do it?
What about the Clinton Records and the money she took from Norman Hsu. Peter Paul? Are all of these thing just being hidden to satisfy a pumped up image?
Those are all lies perpetrated by the Right Wing Conspiracy, in collaboration with the Bush/Cheney/Big Oil/Fox News/Rush/Hannity/O'Reilly cabal. It's a huge conspiracy.
You are correct. For anyone interested, do some research on Richard Mellon Scaife. This fellow spent millions trying to get Clinton. Thankfully, it didn't work as there was "no there there". The best that could be had was a sex scandal.
She's fully known, fully vetted, and fully repulsive. Hillary, don't count on getting the women's vote. What self-respecting woman would respect a woman who let a cheating husband stick around for her own political gain? It takes backbone and a heart to lead this county, and HIllary has neither.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've wondered the same thing for years. Don't ever tell me she represents any self-respecting woman. How they put their daughter through their tawdry life is beyond me. How Chelsea overcame having those two as parents is amazing. How people in this country hold either one in esteem is shameful. Too bad our morals have sunk so low.
Bill Clinton is a wonderful human being who likes sex. In my experience, a trait that comes with just about every wonderful human being. There was nothing amoral about it. If Hilary chose to forgive him, that's here business and I'm not going to fault her for it.
so i guess a woman saving her marraige is considered repulsive. it is amazing. millions of people choose to save thier marraiges, yet Hillary is crucified for it.
The "instant gratification" generation needs to get its emotions in check. Obama is "instant gratification," but let's try composing a hand written message once in a while. Nothing worth having comes without hard work. Hilary has put in the work and composed the message. Obama is the equivalent of a text message - it comes quick, and provides a feel good message. The hand written message is obviously more thoughful and carries more meaning.
That's about as obtuse an analysis as you will ever read.
Hilary is abrasive, shifty and has zero charisma. Obama is brilliant, passionate and oozes charisma. He knows how to inspire. Democrats need someone with strong convictions that doesn't float on the wind of popular opinion as Hilary does. Obama will take it all.
...from an obstinate perspective. It's about as clear as the air up there. Hard work will carry the day. Again, another emotion filled, instant gratification perspective. Obama is to politics, what a reality show is to generation Y - anything but reality.
Please provide some substance to back up your bizarre assertions.
Ditto!
You made the assertions; some nonsense about text messaging.
Oh, you mean euphemism, or analogy. Sorry it went over your head. You must be clouded with passion and charisma, or Mac vs. PC...or something like that. Sorry, didn't mean to cloud the issues for you with subjective satire.
When you make such a oblique and ill-described analogy, then you should expect people to call you out on it. Just because an incoherent musing is bounding around in your brain, doesn't mean it makes sense and needs to be shared. Think next time.
Almost forgot...go Obama...yeah...and some other comments about the, I don't know, whatever.
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