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  • Posted By: Josh Ashley @ 08/01/2008 9:33:19 PM

    A lot of men realize that they are gay as they get older - or maybe their body chemistry changes and they just get Gayer. Or, their wife is fat and unattractive & they just can't fake attraction any more. It could be a lot of things, and I suspect that many men aren't honest about the real reasons behind their lack of interest in sex ( with their wives). Josh Ashley

  • Posted By: FarrahAshline @ 08/01/2008 11:43:49 AM

    I have dealt with this issue in my pracrice as 'The Heartache Helper" here in upstate NY. Many men feel overwhelmed or simply too tired by the demands of "balancing it all" and simply place sex at the bottom of their priority list. What is compelling to note is how sex is really a demonstration or release of feelings and the ability to "let go." When one is taught in society to "handle it all" how can we then expect men to "turn around' and let it all go sexually? I suggest a slew of eastern practices daily to connect and release stress, depression and anger such as meditation, yoga, tantra, Taoism sexual reflexology, ayurveda and arts therapies. See how quickly your body thanks you when you take care of it from the inside out!

    Farrah Ashline

  • Posted By: jonarooni @ 07/31/2008 6:39:04 PM

    The best thing you can do for intimacy's sake is THROW AWAY YOUR TELEVISION!, for multiple reasons. Do THAT, and you will already be on the road to great sex at all times of day and night....trust me.

  • Posted By: tymerazor @ 07/09/2008 3:33:02 AM

    To say that everyone needs human touch is reaching. People are very different in their needs and what makes them tick. To say that you "don't buy" the idea that humans can get by without it or are doomed to be unsatisfied in it's absence says very little. This is an opinion. If you had presented some evidence to back it up maybe I would have been more impressed. Whether you buy it or not, fact is there are plenty of couples who engage in little physical contact and are very satisfied with the arrangements. Perhaps it is really this article that leaves something to be desired.

  • Posted By: colindale @ 07/08/2008 2:04:30 PM

    In my experience, women have not the slightest clue about a man's sexual response. This is proven time upon time by reference to a man's 'performance'. It is NOT a performance! It is not to be applauded or castigated. It is a biological response. Man is not a machine. Man is a human being and should be treated with understanding and respect. When women appreciate that it is not a 'peformance' but a reaction to themselves - then many marrisges will improve.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 12:05:12 AM

    Did you know that if McCain is elected you will have to pay income tax on the value of the medical insurance that your employer gives you? Worse still, he is offering a tax break for people who pay their own insurance, BUT only $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families.

    Let's say you have a family of four. Your insurance policy costs would be at least $1,500-2,500 per month under a self-pay plan, which cost more than employer group plans. So, you pay $18,000 -$30,000 per year for insurance, and you get to deduct only $5,000 of that. If you paid $25,000 for you insurance, you would be out of pocket $20,000 per year. This is FAR WORSE than the current system, where if you are self employed you can deduct 100% of you medical insurance costs.

    So, if you're not self employed, you would stick with your Employer's plan. Employer plans for a family of four have a value of $900-$1,500 per month totaling 10,800-$18,000 per year. Surprise! On April 15th, you owe tax on all of that as INCOME to you. Say your bracket is 25%, and the value of your Employer medical plan is $14,000. You will OWE THE IRS an additional $3,500, and that's ON TOP of whatever monthly premium you already pay to your employer for your insurance.

    Many analysts say that McCain's new rules would encourage employers to stop offering health benefits. If that happened, then far fewer Americans would be insured than are insured today, because what family of four can afford $18,000-$30,000 out of pocket per year for self-pay health insurance?

    Furthermore, McCain's plan does not require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions of people who self-pay their insurance. People under employer group plans have all of their pre-existing conditions covered. This is a hugely unfair aspect of the current system. Insurance companies can afford to cover the pre-existing conditions of the much larger pool of people with group insurance, but they refuse to pay the pre-existing conditions on the smaller pool of self-pay customers. They have been allowed to price gouge the self-pay customers, which is a form of market manipulation that should be illegal.

    So let's say one of your kids had diabetes and you have high blood pressure, then your employer stops offering insurance. You now have to buy your own, but you and your child are INELIGIBLE due to pre-existing conditions. Oh, yeah, they will let you buy the insurance, but you can't use it for any pre-existing condition until you have paid on time every month for two years. And you know what happens at one year and 11 months? You get a letter saying your policy has been cancelled. I have many patients this has happened to.

    McCain's plan SUCKS.

    It does nothing to help middle class working Americans afford or obtain medical insurance. In fact, it makes the current system WORSE.

  • Posted By: fkleinberg @ 01/06/2008 1:57:39 PM

    I wish we could take all the longterm couples who are mismatched for sexual desire and play musical chairs so that we are re-aligned with partners who have the same degree of interest, or lack of it. I'm in year 36 of a marriage where an otherwise perfectly healthy wife has just dropped off the chart for any intimacy, affection or sex over the last 3 years, with no intention of doing anything about it. As a still healthy attractive man in my late 50's, I'm frustrated as hell and do not see any graceful solution. Ideas anyone???

    • Posted By: Cathexis @ 01/18/2008 1:53:11 PM

      Dude ... read the article.

      A large number of sexual "lack of interest cases" involve problems/stresses in completely different areas. One avenue to explore: Temporarily shelf your own frustrations and check to see how SHE is doing.

      • Posted By: Woman @ 05/23/2008 11:06:50 AM

        Is your wife peri-menopausal? She could be suffering from physical problems related to this. Encourage her to talk to her GYN.

  • Posted By: berleme @ 02/04/2008 1:27:20 AM

    It is really nice to hear that I am not the only one out there. I feel like I am a pretty attractive 27year old., and it is really frustrating, sad, disappointing, and even hurtful when I am the only one initiating sex, and when i initiate only half of the time does he actually respond.....this is definitely not what I signed up for!!!

  • Posted By: Anir @ 01/20/2008 11:47:11 PM

    I cannot agree more with the agoodman.

    We men will always be blamed whichever way we go. If you initiate sex, you will accussed of committing rape within marriage, if you don't you will be blamed for something else.

    Guys....just quietly let her do what she wants and then roll-over and go to sleep.

  • Posted By: SouthernVoter @ 01/06/2008 4:14:24 PM

    What? I'm 46 and it's my wife who couldn't care less about it. Where are these wives? Mine should talk to them! My wife acts like I'm a pervert for wanting to have sex with MY WIFE. Imagine that, a husband that wants to be faithful, has a passion for his wife and she thnks he's crazy.

    And by the way, she is not a bombshell or a workout queen so it's not just physical. I'm willing to be very open minded and flexible to keep things passionate but this is of no concern to her. So what's a guy to do?

    This article should not be bashing on men and instead should be on Partners that have no libido.

    • Posted By: LibertyLady @ 01/06/2008 7:43:18 PM

      I agree this problems happens to both men and women. But I do think society makes it different for women. In my corner of the world I feel that women are not suppose to want to to have sex. That is why I have never talked to anyone about this. I , too, feel like I am crazy to be wildly and passionately attracted to my husband and would love to have sex with him every chance we could. I go to work and my women coworkers are complaining about their husbands "wanting it all the time" and how they wish this part of their lives could "just be over with." And these are young women. Men are complaining that there wives never want it. I leave these conversations feeling like a freak - a sleazy woman. If I told these women what a great guy my husband is and that he doesn't want sex - I feel that would think I am lucky! And he is a loving husband. He sends flowers, likes to cuddle, etc. We have it all minus the sex. I should be thanking God for all I have but instead often cry myslef to sleep wondering if I will ever have sex again. Not a pleasant thought at 44 years old. Some days I think that I am going crazy.

      • Posted By: Cathexis @ 01/18/2008 1:49:02 PM

        Geez, "goodman" ... want some cheese with that whine? ;-)

        Seriously ... get over it! You are WAY too sensitive. I am a 50-year-old male and I couldn't disagree more. Sure, men get their share of pokes in today's society. Then again, there are a lot of men who *are* jerks. I know I am not one of them, so I don't personalize such jabs as pertaining to *every man* ... and especially not me. That's one of the costs of being in a demographic who controls most of the power in a society -- men become a "safer" target of humour. When you don't see YOURSELF as the butt of every joke, some of them are actuallyt funny. ;-)

        The reality is, IMO, that many (most?) men ARE egocentric, self-involved, non-empathetic people who go through life focused on what they like/want/"deserve" and not spending much energy thinking about what others (e.g., a Significant Other) might want or need.

        Now, you MAY actually *be* in a bad situation. I won't rule that out. OR there may be some things YOU could do to improve your situation, rather than sitting back and complaining that SHE won't change. But they involve LISTENING and GIVING ... not just to get what you want, but out of genuine love and affection for your SO.

        Now, maybe you already do all of that. Judging by your focused whine on your rough lot in life and the situation "us poor men" have to face ... I think the advice might do you some good. ;-)

        I'm done. Feel free to get all indignant and curse me out, now. ;-D

      • Posted By: cestor01 @ 01/11/2008 4:49:11 AM

        I am a middle-aged healthy man in a long-term relationship, and I don't have sex very often with my fiance, although she lets me know she wants more. I masturbate regularly, often two or more times per day, which angers her. The problem is, I got tired of doing the pursuing, and she doesn't like to be the one to initiate. I have never said no to sex, I just don't chase after it because it is easier to relieve myself

    • Posted By: agoodman @ 01/17/2008 5:40:07 PM

      when aren;t woman making men feel bad about thermselves? Make bashing is everywhere in our society.. everthing women can;t or don;t understand about men gives them reason, in their minds, to claim we;re perverts, inferior, stupid... name it..

      If people think this constant barage from the media of "men bad, women good" hasn;t had a HUGE impact on the wat we all see ourselves, I have a bridge to sell them

      Hey ladies, ask yourself this: if you don't want to be with a man that makes you feel about yoursel;f, what amkes you think a man is going to wnat to be with a woman who makes him feel bad about himself?

  • Posted By: xxyyzz @ 01/05/2008 2:48:57 PM

    "more than 40 percent of men said they're angry at their wives" says it all. Get a clue women. You can't denigrate everything a man says and does, then expect him to want to be intimate with you. Also I wonder how many men were the aggressors the first 10 years of the marriage and then finally gave up trying to get their wives interested. When the frequency of intercourse finally drops down to a level that creates desire in a women, now she expects what she didn't give all those years: passion.

  • Posted By: agoodman @ 01/17/2008 5:33:21 PM

    Let's just be honest here.... American society in 2008 caters to the whims of women. From ther movies to TV to print, male bashing is the norm. I can't watch TV for more than a half hour without seeing a conmercial where the man is too stupid to pour cough syrup on a spoon. This constant barage of " men bad, women good" has a had a huge impact on how we feel and think about ourselves.

    the article hints at this when they say " constant negative feelings from the wife" What man wants to male love to a woman who's always making him feel like crap? Think about it women... male bashing is sexist and that sexism is creating a nation of emasulated men ... you finally got what femimists have been wishing for for decades... men who don't see you as a sexual object.... you've come a long way , baby!

    Guerss what ladies, men are people too. Treat us well if you expect to eb treated well. It's a plan so crazy, it just might work

  • Posted By: phiomalibumalibu @ 01/06/2008 10:20:23 PM

    Really, hmmm 10 times isn't much really....I used to have trouble with my libido. My wife has always been patient with me though. About 6 months ago I tried 2 things. 1) I got some sexual enhancement pills from herbalsize.com and 2) I started drinking pineapple juice. After about 1 month my desire increased 10 fold, and my wife can barely handle it. I would recommend this to all the guys! Good Luck!

    • Posted By: LibertyLady @ 01/06/2008 11:03:39 PM

      Could you share with us what the problem was? What your feelings were? That has been my biggest problem. We talk about everything but he can't tell me why? I have said many times "I think that you owe me an explanation! " But i never get one. He always denies that he doesn't want to have sex with me but just can't explain why it doesn't happen.

      • Posted By: Silver01TA @ 01/15/2008 2:25:11 AM

        After reading your comments it seems you have a problem as well. You cant expect to fix him if there is something wrong with you (or bothering you). You are obviously uncomfortable with your surplus of desire and feel repress your feelings. Now sex becomes chorelike and monotanous. I think you should first let go all your inhibitons. Tell your husband how you feel.

        I, on numerous occations have been the other guy that women fool around with. Why? Because I have met women who feel that they cant be themselves around their husbands. They feel that their husbands will judge them and think less of them for having such thoughts. And when they find someone who is accepting of those desires, and makes them feel ok about themselves, thats when they stray.

        The problem is that your husband needs to let you know that he accepts you and your desires. And you need to let him know how you feel. Everybody wants to be wanted.

      • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 01/07/2008 9:13:07 AM

        LibertyLady - This gur frequently shows up in health realted boards touting his pineapple juice and herbal meds and not really contributing anything else. He is an advertiser and nothing else......

  • Posted By: Silver01TA @ 01/15/2008 1:12:20 AM

    Men and women can bring out the animal in each other. Its not physical ladies and gentleman. Its mental.

    Scenario 1
    Me: Young attractive male (20 years old) making 50k in Dallas Texas.
    Her: Older female (31 years old), beautiful eyes, pretty face, but heavy.

    She was older but she was so cool. We got along great and we did not bullshit. We said what was on our minds. Her sex drive was much larger than mine, but she could get me in the mood when I wasnt. It wasnt what she was wearing, it wasnt what she looked like, it was who she was that was sexy.

    Scenario 2
    ME: 22 years old
    HER: 20 years old very cute, great body.

    The problem, she was a prude, and was shy, timid, and would not let herself go when we would get intimate. I got tired of the barrier she put up. Whats the point of sex if you cant enjoy it. If i just wanted a quick orgasm, I could make a fist. Sex is mutual enjoyment, when it is one sided, you have a problem. And the longer you let it linger, the worse it gets. We are still together, but now my drive has completely diminished for her. Its not ED, its mental. I dont care at the moment. I have had my share of good sex. My fiancee makes will make a good wife, and she will be a great mother, but a decent lover she is not. But there is still hope.

    Its not the lingerie, or dirty talk that does it (they do help). Its the personality. A sexy personality in the bedroom is the key. If you connect mentally (or emotionally I guess) you WILL connect physically. Its the physical attraction that draws you to the other person, but its the mental attraction that will keep you there. For you ladies with men with low sex drives, you need to take a step back and reconnect with your husbands. Once you do that, the sex will follow. It will take time though, but being open and talking is the key.

  • Posted By: skinnyminny2 @ 01/14/2008 7:53:39 PM

    Maybe some of these wives are simply fat, ugly and unappealing.

  • Posted By: MGTOW @ 01/06/2008 1:59:20 PM

    Lysistrata reversed methinks. I am according to the article a "culprit" who "is too quick to blame" and "simply don't understand that sex changes over the course of a relationship"- LOL what pathetic misandry by the female author. Here is my take as a soon to be college graduate. For as long as I remember I have been told that I am inherently an abuser and a rapist. This message is inculcated at a very young age, and full blown in college. Freshperson orientation and required courses in Feminism tell us ala Dworkin and Mackinnon, that the very act of sexual penetration is a violation of a woman and tantamount to rape. So take solace women, your husbands/partners who don't have sex with you are actually being respectful of you. Your partner is probably in a workplace where any slight of a woman is grounds for being fired, yet the women in his office freely disseminate male bashing jokes and opinions. If he is in the corporate world he has to work longer than the women around him to get promoted and will see that the company is busy organizing women only corporate networking events, but that is strictly prohibited for men. He probably comes home to see Cosmo and other journalistic endeavors about touting how terrible men are, and may even settle in with you to watch the evening television (made for and marketed almost exclusively to women) continue the daily male bashing grind. And then you wonder why he may not want to be intimate with you? And goodness knows we don't want to evaluate as other posters have mentioned, environmental factors. Perhaps when women consider that topics on gender and male sexuality do not revolve only around them, and that society doesn't only revolve around them, and we address female privilege and attitudes towards men- you won't go to bed with cold toes. I applaud and urge men who are not happy in their relationships, and don't find intimacy with their partner to stand up and speak up in a way they want to, and in a way that is genuinely reflective of themselves. This article and these books rejecting your survey responses and way of expressing yourself, and rewriting in a women first way is just patently offensive. Erego, why so many young men like myself are forever proponents of The Marriage Strike. Sorry women, many of you are really decent good people, but until you stand up to the level of misandry and misandrist matriarchal structures of this society we will exclude you from our lives and our bedrooms.

    • Posted By: wallybare @ 01/07/2008 4:13:15 AM

      Why is it I get the feeling, after reading your "soon to be a college graduate" analysis on women, that it is most likely your cocky attitude that keeps the women away from you, not you away from them. I also wonder if you would ever have the energy to be in a relationship, what with the long, tiring sloughing of those chips that appear to be on your shoulders.

      • Posted By: roseville @ 01/09/2008 3:48:18 PM

        Good grief...how angry can one be? You must have been raised by some sort of feminist facist, cause never once have I, or other women I know, referred to men as rapists or abusers! If that's what you're learning in college, I suggest you transfer to a more conservative university! I agree with wallybare...have some dip with that chip on your shoulder.

        • Posted By: obvious_thinker @ 01/10/2008 5:26:59 PM

          Unfortunately, neither of you have seen the feminist agenda. Part of what he says is accurate. But at the same time, really it is hyperbole. It is purposely exaggerated in order to hit very obtuse men between the eyes. Not every man comes from a "normal" healthy example of parenting, and all these freshman sex-counciling classes are meant to tell those men that no really does mean no even if their dads, step-dads, and mom's abusive boyfriends say it isn't true.

  • Posted By: MGTOW @ 01/09/2008 5:33:57 PM

    Good ones Roseville and Wallybare- good clever comebacks. You are right wallybare I will not enter into a long term relationship until there is social and legal reform in marital/family law. If self respect, dignity and intergrity witha goal of being a decent fair person, expecting the same in return is cocky, I am guilty. As to reality, I live in New York, so the demographics, even if I were as repulsive as you might think, deliver a full social life. Roseville, the tired phrase of calling a man "angry" for standing up for issues on gender is a tired trick. I am not angry, I am forwarding my masculinist perspective when there are examples of unacceptable treatment on men and masculinity, in this case, how the author treated male sexuality in this article. It could have been informational, encouraging and postive, and it did have some of those elements, but interlaced she included very sexist, misandrist language. I should be transferrto a conservative university, (I am not even that conservative); I go to a public/state university, and should not have to transfer because of feminist indoctorination (would you tell me to go to the black school as well because I am black)-it is prevalent and common - Duke ring a bell, Group of 88- misandry is prevalent in society, Let's woman and man up over a bowl of chips and dip to do something about it.. But thanks for the fun retorts- Asad

  • Posted By: phiomalibumalibu @ 01/06/2008 2:09:05 AM

    I used to have trouble with my libido. My wife has always been patient with me though. About 6 months ago I tried 2 things. 1) I got some sexual enhancement pills from herbalsize.com and 2) I started drinking pineapple juice. After about 1 month my desire increased 10 fold, and my wife can barely handle it. I would recommend this to all the guys! Good Luck!

    • Posted By: angelus1967 @ 01/07/2008 9:03:35 AM

      Advertising again phiomalibumalibu? I am not sure that you have any credibility left on these boards (if you had any to begin with) because you are constantly advertising different herbal meds/sites. Take it elsewhere......

  • Posted By: mcshellmc @ 01/06/2008 9:33:04 PM

    eh. 10 times a year sounds like a PERFECT number!

  • Posted By: LibertyLady @ 01/06/2008 1:33:41 AM

    I can see there are many sides to this article. I am in a good relationship. Find my husband attractive and he finds me so -- yes even tells me. We are kind and loving to each other. But our sex life is nearly non-existent. I have cried and cried and cried. My husband can't give me an answer to why he feels so little desire ( we had sex twice in 2007). So we ahve tried to talk about it and even on occasion have joked about it. But in a society that tells us that men are begging and women are faking headaches it is very difficult to talk about. In fact this comment is the first time I have come close to even admitting this problem to anyone. So I was so relieved to see this article, know that I am not alone and can't wait to check out the books mentioned.

    • Posted By: Mrs. Frog @ 01/06/2008 2:09:33 PM

      Finally someone has the same problem as me. This woman described my frustration exactly. It's a very hard thing to talk about.This has been going on for 29 years. I keep hearing it's not you, it's me. I think it is a psychological problem but my husband refuses to see a therapist. Hard to admit he does have a problem. sometimes I get so frustrated I want to scream. It's the intimacy I'm craving m, not just the sex!

      • Posted By: LibertyLady @ 01/06/2008 7:30:08 PM

        It does help to know that there are others out there. I once started to talk to my best friend and when she proudly piped up that she obliges her husband at least once a week, of course I shut up. I have tried everything. Losing weight, sexy talk, nighties, offers to meet at home at noon, taking our son to Grandma's for the night, etc. It all leads to frustration and lots of tears. I hope it helps to know that I feel your pain.

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