I got my masters degree under Dr. Frederick vom Saal, who did the pioneer work on BPA and I will unequivocally say that this chemical is bad news having done the experiments myself and seeing the results. Stick with the glass.
I got my masters degree under Dr. Frederick vom Saal, who did the pioneer work on BPA and I will unequivocally say that this chemical is bad news having done the experiments myself and seeing the results. Stick with the glass.
I got my masters degree from someone who says it's not a problem...so there...
From whom did you receive your Master's Degree? Where did you matriculate? Idiots R' Us?
Small no-name school called Johns Hopkins. (sigh)
Anyway, posted somewhat less tired, trying to be more rational comment below. Feel free to check it out.
Even 24 years ago when my oldest child was an infant, I felt uncomfortable using plastic bottles. At he time, a lot of my friends used the plastic bags that fit into a playtex bottle, or similar style, as even some breast feeding consultants recommended these little baggies for freezing breast milk in, but I just had a feeling that they were not that safe for a baby. Although I did breastfeed all of my children for a year, I worked part time and would save the breast milk in bottles, to be frozen and then warmed up for them when I was working, and so I always used glass bottles for this. After I stopped breast feeding them, at just over a year, I did give them a bottle since I felt they did not get enough milk with just using a cup. It is my feeling that the greatest danger with the plastic bottles/containers, is when they are heated up to warm the milk, formula or food that they contain, to be given to the baby. And so, I think it is a good idea to stay away from all plastic containers that will be heated up in this way, and always use glass. When the baby is older, and the milk is given to them cold, it is my feeling that it is probably not as much of a health risk to use the plastic bottles, and may make sense as at this point, they are more mobile and toddling around, and glass may pose a larger risk in possibly breaking and injuring the child. They may now make some safe coverings or jacket type things for glass bottles, that would protect them from breaking if dropped, etc. However if using other materials like plastic,, even at this stage, it would be very wise to use only BPA-free and PVC free containers - and stainless steel containers would probably make the most sense, when possible to use, I think.
Actually, I think the plastic liner type are considered relatively safe. They are BPA and PVC free - not as good as glass, and not reusable, but perhaps an interim options while we wait for the market to respond with more options? My kids are now on sippy cups (the take-and-toss type are #2, the "good" kind if there is such a thing). But if we were on bottles, I know I would not be able to afford a whole new set at those prices.
I know the plastic liner type is considered relatively safe, but I still do not think heating up milk or formula, or even foods, in them is really a good idea - just what I think, could be wrong. Heating any plastic type materials, in my opinion, does pose a risk to releasing chemical components of the plastic, into the milk or food that it contains. Even if the experts say it is not harmful, a lot of times they learn otherwise, later.
Yes...let's go on what you think. Completely ignore the facts.
I think what I am saying is, are we sure we know all the facts, and fully understand them?
I should never comment when tired...Anyway...what I'm going for is that you can never have "all" of the facts. You take the facts you have and go with them. Otherwise, just seal yourself in a bubble and never do anything. Breathing is a huge risk (my God...the things that are in the air...and only a small percentage of the problems are man-made) yet we still do it everyday. There are big enough real, established, serious problems that we need to fix that we don't need to waste time squabbling about what "may" be an issue here.
When I was a baby, my mother used a glass bottle for me. I have 9-year old-twins and they were given plastic bottles. All three of us are alive and well. How is this possible?
It is true, glass baby bottles rarely break. Who ever determined that toddlers need to carry around bottles or sippy cups of any kind? Children can be easily taught to retrive a sip of their drink from a cup or bottle that is available to them from a kitchen counter or table. Imagine how the generations before us ever survived and even prospered without plastic baby bottles...they did and we can too.
For decades baby bottles were made of glass and they seldom shattered. they could be boiled to sterilize and were cheaper than the plastic (especially those awful 'disposable' ones). Unless you have a hard granite floor, and a determined toddler throwing the bottle from a high chair, the glass is strong and does not break. And they made cool bud vases after weaning.
If people are so worried about the health of their babies, why give them glass bottles instead of plastic? So they can drop the bottle on the floor and play with the broken glass? Plastic is a MUCH safer alternative that won't shatter and pose injury to young children. Seriously.
Regarding those women who keep on talking about the breast being the best...well if you watched a CNN special about the chemicals in our bodies...even when we are breastfeeding...we are passing these toxins to our babies. We have polluted our environment with our man made conveniences and its our future that is and will be paying the price. FYI I breastfed my first born 24 months (it was very hard at the beginning...but she was very interested), my second one breastfed for 3 months (she preferred the quickness of the bottle nipple and seemed to have less gas from formula) and my third one was given breastmilk for 1 month via bottle (he was premature). All I can say is that all 3 are amazing, bright, healthy children regardless of whether they had breast or formula. Though suprisingly, my fbreastfed irstborn ended up with dental caries whereas my formula bottlefed ones do not have dental issues. I am very thankful that the improved formulas are available.
Regarding those women who keep on talking about the breast being the best...well if you watched a CNN special about the chemicals in our bodies...even when we are breastfeeding...we are passing these toxins to our babies. We have polluted our environment with our man made conveniences and its our future that is and will be paying the price. FYI I breastfed my first born 24 months (it was very hard at the begining...but she was very interested), my second one breastfed for 3 months (she preferred the quickness of the bottle nipple and seemed to have less gas from formula) and my third one was given breastmilk for 1 month via bottle (he was premature). All I can say is that all 3 are amazing, bright, healthy children regardless of whether they had breast or formula. I am very thankful that the improved formulas are available.
Regarding nursing with an infection...I had a painful infection with my first born at 8 months...and I did breastfeed her...made by toes turn...but it did clear. However, my sister-in-law had severe infection in both breasts after the birth of her twins. She had to go on v. strong meds...there was no way she could breastfeed. So at the end of the day, you must decide what is best for your well being and your baby's health.
Exactly right, TXMortgage. Nursing does, in fact, help to clear infection, and does NOT harm the baby. Becky, in my experience, most breast infections do not consist of "pus-filled lesion(s)", but are INSIDE the breast and are related to milk not being removed from the duct for some reason. Thus the reasonable thing to do is to move milk, preferably by nursing, as that is a more effective and efficient way of doing so than pumping or hand expressing. Perhaps you'd like to check YOUR information before you attack someone else's.
I would ask you the same question, Aunt Paula. Are you a medical professional? If you are, that's great and you can provide more information to educate those who are not. However, it is important to acknowledge that mastitis occurring while breast feeding can turn into a breast abscess which would likely need incision and drainage. The drainage would, in all likelihood, be pus. We don't know what type of infection the woman had nor do we know how extensive it was. In working more than 25 years in healthcare, I've seen many breast abscesses. I know of one woman who actually had to have a mastectomy due to recurrent bouts of mastitis that led to abscesses. Either way, the important thing here is the woman who had the infection either chose to stop breast feeding or was advised to do so by her doctor. Casting apersions on her for not breast feeding is inappropriate.
I am so shocked and disappointed in these companies (that make bottles, sippy cups, and also toys). why are these issues of contaminates and lead not being discovered before these items are put on the shelves and into our childrens mouths? at the very least there should be warnings or information about what materials are used to make these things on the packaging so we can make informed decisions about wether or not we would like to poison our babies. my son is almost three and has now been exposed to BPA;s, Lead and god knows what else. I am so angry and think that these companies should be legally held responsible for their actions or lack thereof. to find the answers of why our children are needing to be stuffed with anti-hyperactivity-ADD medicines, dying of cancers and other various diseases at an early age, perhaps we should be looking at the manufacturers of their toys and feeding utensils.
Right...the average life span has increased over the past 50 years and it's because "evil industry" is poisioning us all...
Not everyone can breastfeed, but MOST women (95%) can breastfeed if they want to and are given the appropriate information. Infection is actually not a reason to quit nursing - the infection will not spread to the baby and nursing actually helps heal the infection. We need to do what we can to avoid all the unknowns of formula and plastic containers. Who knows what effects they will have on children once they reach adulthood.
Excuse me - are you a medical professional? If not, how can you state that infection is not a reason to quit nursing? What makes you so certain that the infection will not spread to the baby? If I had a pus-filled lesion on my breast I would most certainly not place that breast in my infants mouth! If, per chance, you ARE a medical professional, please provide more detailed information so we can all learn how and why the infection cannot be passed on to the infant.
I have purchased the Born Free glass bottles for my then 7 month old...now 9 month old. He was a bigger baby and is sometimes freakishly strong...so with that said...he had no problem using the glass bottles. I actually much prefer them to the Dr. Brown's I was using because the parts are sooo much easier to clean. I hated the colic-free insert thing that they boast about. The Born Free glass is more natural and just feels much cleaner. I always hold him while he's drinking and I just support him when the formula runs low because he is too distracted to hold the end of the bottle up to finish...by that point he is bored and ready to move about. I also purchased the bottle sponge that they advertise and I feel that it cleans much better than a bristle brush because I can be sure it covers all the surface area. Lastly, I don't put my bottles in the dishwasher (which can be a pain...) but I found that tiny food particles would stick to the plastic parts of my old bottles and I wanted to keep these squeaky clean.
As for the breastfeeding debate...I did nurse my son for 8 months. I made up my mind that I was just going to do it and there was no other option. I had to fight for support when the going got tough because those around me always quickly defaulted to formula. Breastfeeding is the HARDEST thing I have ever had to do. I have a new appreciation for those who attempt it because it is far from a natural process when you start out. I am all for doing whatever works for you! A happy mom makes for a happy baby...hold your head up whatever your choice! My son weaned me after he started solids because looking around the room was much more interesting. I tried pumping but I didn't get milk. I let it go and shifted to formula. I do buy the organic and give him only distilled water because that makes me more comfortable.
IMPORTANT: I do want to mention though that while there is much debate about BPA...I found some articles/studies that state that BPA is also used in the lining of formula containers...the sides are lined with cardboard but the tin tops and bottoms are lined with BPA!!! Since we assembled as a marketplace to boycott the bottles...I suggest that we move to change the way formula is packaged so that those of us who don't really have choices can feel comfortable that our children are safe!!!
Oh my God! How did anyone ever survive without being breast fed? I'm amazed that anyone who was bottle fed ever lived to tell! Let's pause a minute people and take the time to think about this with some sense of reality. Yes, breast fed IS best. However, if one cannot breast feed and/or chooses not to breast feed for whatever reason, that is their choice, not someone else's. And let's stop making them feel guilty for not breast feeding. My daughter recently had a baby and wanted desperately to breast feed but was taking medication for depression that would cross over to her breast milk and was not good for the baby. My daughter had already cut back on the med during the pregnancy to protect the baby but needed to up it right after giving birth. If she had not done that, Lord knows what would have happened to her ability to care for her child. Her mental health was more important than breast feeding. She's doing very well and her child is thriving. So all you breast-feeding Nazis - back off on the women who make the choice to bottle feed. You have NO idea why they made the choice they did, and it is, quite frankly, none of your business!
No, not everyone can breastfeed.
I had infection issues that forced me to stop breastfeeding after 18 days.
Heartbroken and stressed that my boy wouldn't grow or be as healthy as breastfed babies...I fed him carnation formula and went on to healthy foods (NO Mc Donalds until after 4th birthday!)
We drink lots of water (no soda) eat lots of veggies and fruits...exercise...generally practice common sense and "everything in moderation"
He graduated from High School May of 2007 at 190 lbs and 6' 3".
* He missed over 15 days of school since Kindergarten due to illness...
I have purchased the Born Free glass bottles for my then 7 month old...now 9 month old. He was a bigger baby and is sometimes freakishly strong...so with that said...he had no problem using the glass bottles. I actually much prefer them to the Dr. Brown's I was using because the parts are sooo much easier to clean. I hated the colic-free insert thing that they boast about. The Born Free glass is more natural and just feels much cleaner. I always hold him while he's drinking and I just support him when the formula runs low because he is too distracted to hold the end of the bottle up to finish...by that point he is bored and ready to move about. I also purchased the bottle sponge that they advertise and I feel that it cleans much better than a bristle brush because I can be sure it covers all the surface area. Lastly, I don't put my bottles in the dishwasher (which can be a pain...) but I found that tiny food particles would stick to the plastic parts of my old bottles and I wanted to keep these squeaky clean.
As for the breastfeeding debate...I did nurse my son for 8 months. I made up my mind that I was just going to do it and there was no other option. I had to fight for support when the going got tough because those around me always quickly defaulted to formula. Breastfeeding is the HARDEST thing I have ever had to do. I have a new appreciation for those who attempt it because it is far from a natural process when you start out. My son weaned me after he started solids because looking around the room was much more interesting. I tried pumping but I didn't get milk. I would pump for hours for just a few ounces and I couldn't keep up with him. I let it go and shifted to formula. I do buy the organic and give him only distilled water.
IMPORTANT: I do want to mention though that while there is much debate about BPA...I found some articles/studies that state that BPA is also used in the lining of formula containers...the sides are lined with cardboard but the tin tops and bottoms are lined with BPA!!! Since we assembled as a marketplace to boycott the bottles...I suggest that we move to change the way formula is packaged so that those of us who don't really have choices can feel comfortable that our children are safe!!!
Some people absolutely CANNOT breastfeed their child. We started out nursing but at a couple of weeks she was diagnosed her as having Galactosemia. We immediately had to stop all dairy intake. In fact, if I had continued nursing I could have caused irrepairable neurological damage to her, maybe even death. So please before you judge a person because they fed formula to their child consider that they may be doing what's best for their child.
This is a disease that she will NEVER grow out of....something that she will have to live with for the rest of her life. She will constantly have to be careful of what she eats and drinks...otherwise lactose can build up to toxic levels in her body and since she can't break down lactose that means that one by one systems in her body would begin to shut down. And if she eats a slice of bread made with milk or butter she will never know she ingested it until it begins making her feel sick...which can be a LONG time and by then damage will already have been done.
When we were given this diagnosis it was hard...and I hate having to explain why I don't breastfeed my child...since that it is the "best and natural" way. When and if we decide to have another child we will have a 50% chance of him/her having this too.
Some people absolutely CANNOT breastfeed their child. We started out nursing but at a couple of weeks she was diagnosed her as having Galactosemia. We immediately had to stop all dairy intake. In fact, if I had continued nursing I could have caused irrepairable neurological damage to her, maybe even death. So please before you judge a person because they fed formula to their child consider that they may be doing what's best for their child.
This is a disease that she will NEVER grow out of....something that she will have to live with for the rest of her life. She will constantly have to be careful of what she eats and drinks...otherwise lactose can build up to toxic levels in her body and since she can't break down lactose that means that one by one systems in her body would begin to shut down. And if she eats a slice of bread made with milk or butter she will never know she ingested it until it begins making her feel sick...which can be a LONG time and by then damage will already have been done.
When we were given this diagnosis it was hard...and I hate having to explain why I don't breastfeed my child...since that it is the "best and natural" way. When and if we decide to have another child we will have a 50% chance of him/her having this too.
To the nursing nazis...not all women choose to breastfeed, not all babies can nurse, not all women have enough milk...get over yourselves. If I had nursed my last daughter, born with a soft palette cleft, she would have starved. She had no suction so she used Medela Cleft Palette nursers ($25.00 for each nipple) to survive. Given the challenges that face todays moms, maybe we should be more concerned about supporting each other no matter how they are fed.
Thank you for your comments. My baby is both breastfed and formula fed and I get judged from both sides. I don't know why we have to choose sides. As long as we are doing what is best for our babies, that should be enough. We should be supporting each other.
I am astonished at the number of women on here who find themselves to be so noble for exclusively breast-feeding their children. Lucky you to have employers who allow you to take breaks at all, especially to express milk, or to be able to keep your children at work with you in order to breast feed them. God forbid you stop looking down your noses at the rest of us to consider the circumstances under which other women live and work.
We were warned about this and other hazards regarding plastics, containers and even pvc pipes years ago at the Womans World Conference in Beijing. What amazes me is that it has taken so long for them to finally do something. I breastfed my babies ,watche my own diet, and switched back to glass containers that I had from my mum and Grandmother. I made all my own babyfood as well which was easy and a lot cheaper. than buying it,and healthier too! What am
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