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  • Posted By: YankeeLime @ 01/06/2008 8:57:39 PM

    I was told by a nurse that there was a study on the effects of microwaving formula - it produces chemicals that mimicked some hormones. Never personally saw the study, and can't find it, so I don't know more. Also, I just wanted to say that when I was pregnant, I didn't buy a single thing for formula feeding. I wasn't going to 'try' breastfeeding - I was just going to do it! Of course it's the perfect food. Unfortunately my daughter had other ideas. We were in the hospital for a week trying to learn how to breastfeed. I had at least 16 professionals of all types try to help (yeah, it was embarrassing that it felt like the whole hospital was getting a peep show). Still, we kept trying. Came home, had 3 midwives and volunteers from the La Leche League and the Breast Feeding Network over in our house but again, no success. I gave it my all. So did my daughter. No one could come up with a reason she wasn't feeding. I then expressed milk for 6 hours a day - but that still did not provide enough so we had to turn to formula after she lost too much weight.. I still spend hours a day expressing and am lucky enough to not have to return to work for a while (I'm an American living in the UK, which has such better laws for mothers, like paid maternity leave of 6 months so you can actually breastfeed for that long and requirements of all workplaces to give a mother a private place to express milk and a fridge in which to store it!). My daughter is 6 months old now, but still gets breastmilk and formula. I guess I used to be one of those women who was judgemental of those who bottlefed. Now I feel horrible about that. It's not easy for everyone, and for many, going to formula is so incredibly emotionally painful. How unChristian I was being. I need bottles for both breastmilk and formula, and I'm so happy that there are safer options out there now. Kudos to this article.

    • Posted By: fraunatur @ 01/06/2008 10:09:27 PM

      That is so similar to my own experience. I think it taught me to stop being so judgemental of other moms and learn how to support them. Kudos to the UK laws regarding maternity leave, etc. as well. How lucky for you and your daughter. What a great start. I just keep in mind that if it weren't for the wonderful creators of formula, my son would have starved! He is a healthy, happy 7 year old, so something worked out ok.

  • Posted By: 4t4d4c4jm @ 01/06/2008 10:08:45 PM

    When it comes to our American childrens' health I think we should do everything possible for them. It is about time we do not trust FDA and look into the health and safety of our health. America is not like it use to be now it is all about MONEY everyone is selling themselves out for money and affects future generations in health etc. I am so thankful we have some intelligent people out there that are checking the plastics our children eat out of and drink from. I am a Grandma that will purchase what is the best in health for our Grandchildren.

  • Posted By: grandmapam @ 01/06/2008 6:42:53 PM

    About breastfeeding....not all mothers can breastfeed. What about the babies that are adopted?

    • Posted By: ag5666 @ 01/06/2008 10:05:17 PM

      While you may not make 100% milk supply with an adopted baby, it is possible to breastfeed one.

  • Posted By: ag5666 @ 01/06/2008 10:02:35 PM

    All the more reason to exclusively breastfeed your children.

  • Posted By: cleetus8 @ 01/06/2008 9:13:47 PM

    Why is NewsWeek continuing on with the fearmongering? There has been absolutely no proof that BPA or plastic or anything harms babies. There's been "some concern" for years, but none of the "concern" has yielded an ounce of credible data on any hazard whatsoever. Having a baby is hard enough and scary enough on its own merits to need somebody rabble-rousing about phantom fears.

  • Posted By: Bananas @ 01/06/2008 8:46:10 PM

    Why is it always more expensive to do the healthier thing?!? It's more expensive to eat organic. It's more expensive to buy organic/natural fiber clothing. Baby bottles, sippy cups, pacifiers...all more expensive BPA-free. For those of us on a fixed income, it's very hard to do what is right for our children and ourselves. It's as if we're doomed to fail before we've even begun.

    • Posted By: mom2-4 @ 01/06/2008 9:12:16 PM

      If you do a computer search for "glass baby bottles", you will find several sites where they are available, and are not that expensive. Even on e-bay there are a lot of listings for glass baby bottles, and I think they are cheaper than most plastic bottles. You can also find very good deals on 100% cotton clothing, including baby and children's clothes, at a lot of places. If they are considered "organic/natural fiber clothing" that you mention, I don't know. But if you wash them well in hot soapy water a couple of times before wear, any un-natural chemicals that may have been added to the fabric, should be washed out of them, and they are still 100% cotton - which is natural. This would be most important with sleeping clothes and bedding that our little ones are laying in for hours at a time. You can buy beef from a farmer, and get meat from cows that have not been vaccinated, etc., and actually by buying a quarter cow, it is cheaper than buying the cuts in the supermarkets. If you cannot afford that much meat at one time, you can split a quarter cow with others. You just have to be thinking about ways you can live healthier, than the reasons you can't. Probably some of the biggest threats are things we often don't consider, like the chemicals in carpeting that our little ones lay on and play on. Wood floors are probably a much better choice, and then you can use cotton rugs. All we can do is try to eliminate the hazzards that we know about, and there usually are affordable ways to do that, I think. If you buy the items that are specifically marketed as "organic-natural", you will probably be paying a lot more than you need to.

  • Posted By: catmom5553 @ 01/06/2008 9:00:57 PM

    What about the problems of using glass bottles for expressed breast milk. When I was doing this 20 years ago they said that certain antibodies or other important components of breast milk adhered to glass bottles and so if you had to use a bottle use plastic.

  • Posted By: oldisbetter @ 01/06/2008 7:45:31 PM

    Babies crawling around with glass bottles????? The way to feed babies is sitting down and holding them. If they are so big that they are crawling around then maybe they do not need a bottle. My son decided he did not need a bottle at 6 months. I was very worried about this and consulted my Dr. He informed me that with the proper diet and vitamins it was OK. Our son, as I said before is 44, has never had a cavity and is very strong and healthy. I, also, worked when my child was a baby. Not because I wanted, but I had to. He still was held and loved when he was fed. Never would I think of laying him down with a bottle. All babies never asked to be brought into this world. So do what is best for them and love them. They will be grown to very soon.

    • Posted By: KCFlutes @ 01/06/2008 8:45:44 PM

      I never said anything about babies crawling around with the bottle. What I meant was that a bottle could accidentally be knocked on the floor and break. Anyone who has broken glass knows that it's difficult to clean up all the tiny glass shards on the floor.

  • Posted By: Mommy_mena @ 01/06/2008 6:27:20 PM

    If everyone breastfed like they should, they wouldn*t have to worry about the safety of the bottles. And don*t get me started on the safety of formula.

    • Posted By: grandmapam @ 01/06/2008 6:44:13 PM

      About breastfeeding....not all mothers can breastfeed. What about the babies that are adopted?

      • Posted By: Bananas @ 01/06/2008 8:35:22 PM

        A woman is still physically able to breastfeed even if she hasn't given birth to the child. Sometimes she doesn't produce enough milk to exclusively breastfeed, but it is still possible. I

    • Posted By: SheilaS. @ 01/06/2008 7:40:25 PM

      NOT ALL WOMEN CAN BREAST FEED! I did breastfeed but my sister did not produce any milk (she tried). In the old days women who did not produce milk would either get a wet nurse or their babies died. Get off your high horse and come into the 21st century.

    • Posted By: SheilaS. @ 01/06/2008 7:35:56 PM

      NOT ALL WOMEN CAN BREASTFEED! I was able to but my sister did not produce any milk (she tried) so do not put down those who can not breast feed or choose not to. In the old days people who were not able to breastfeed would either have a wet nurse or their babies died. We have come a long ways since then so get off your high horse.

    • Posted By: valorie @ 01/06/2008 6:50:06 PM

      Even a breastfeeding mother may need to occasionally feed their child from a bottle, with either expressed breastmilk, or formula. Then they do need to worry about the safety of bottles. Addtionally, this article does mention several times that this concerns sippy cups as well. You should watch your comments.

  • Posted By: ashlee.havens @ 01/06/2008 7:55:59 PM

    I am extrememly upset to read all of these comments against women who are unable to breastfeed. I personally tried breastfeeding for a week, and my milk still had not come in. so i started supplementing formula every other feeding. At his 1 week checkup I informed the doctor that my son was wanting to eat almost every hour if not sooner. He had dropped alot of weight. His doctor told me to switch right away because he was not getting enough nutrients and even though I wanted to help him by breastfeeding, I was actually hurting him. It was the worst thing that I had to face, to know that I would not be able to give my son the very best there was. Someone mentioned earlier that everyone would be able to breastfeed if they didnt harm their bodies in different ways. Well news to them, I have never picked up a cigeratte or ANY kind of drug. The only thing I have been exposed to is second-hand smoke and who can help that? I still couldnt breastfeed! I am in the military so either way it went, I would have had to introduce the bottle at 5-6 weeks for when I went back to work, so I would still have to use a bottle. To the lady that was a lawyer and went back to work and was still using breast only....Kudos to you....but, there were only a few ways that that could have happened. 1. Your office is your living room. 2. you own your own law firm and was able to escape to the sitters every few hours to breastfeed. or 3. Your children just starved from 8 am til 5 pm or whenever it is you got back home. However, not everyone can do that! I would love more than anything to stay at home all day and watch my son grow before my eyes rather than hope that I dont miss something big while he is at the sitters. But I have to go back to defending our country!

    • Posted By: mom2-4 @ 01/06/2008 8:30:00 PM

      Do not pay any attention to the comments that are put downs to moms who decide (for whatever reason), to bottle feed. Most likely, it sometimes makes insecure people feel better about themselves to say how much better a job they are doing than someone else. You are absolutely right in your comment. And this is coming from a nurse who use to work with brand new babies and moms. Breast feeding is not always the best option for everyone - every situation has its own issues that need to be considered in the decision.
      And...thank you very much for being willing to serve our country. Please know that you are appreciated!!!

  • Posted By: Meggars13 @ 01/06/2008 7:32:53 PM

    I thought glass bottles were supposed to be bad to use with breast milk. Something about some of the good stuff that helps build up your baby's immune system sticks more to glass than to plastic. I think I remember reading something about it in "What to Expect the First Year," but it is an older edition that was passed down to me, so maybe that info is out of date. I wish this article would have mentioned something about it. As for whether glass is okay to use with formula, I have no idea.

    • Posted By: mom2-4 @ 01/06/2008 8:18:53 PM

      I have not ever heard of this, but I do know that you should never rewarm breast milk in a microwave oven. One reason is because you can have hot spots and burn the baby's mouth (so formula should also not be warmed in a microwave oven), but the other reason is because it can destroy some of the "good stuff" in the milk, as you say. The best way to rewarm breast milk, is to heat water in a pan on the stove, or in a bowl in the microwave oven, and THEN place the bottle of milk or formula into the hot water, until it reaches the warmth desired. And so, in the case of frozen breast milk, this may have to repeated more than one time before the bottle is ready to feed to baby. I am not sure about the information you mention, but if breast feeding, the bottles of breastmilk would be an occasional thing, and so definately probably not a problem even if some of the "good stuff" is lost by sticking to the glass - for sure safter than taking the chances of the harmful chemicals in some plastics that this article mentions.

  • Posted By: ashlee.havens @ 01/06/2008 7:54:31 PM

    I am extrememly upset to read all of these comments against women who are unable to breastfeed. I personally tried breastfeeding for a week, and my milk still had not come in. so i started supplementing formula every other feeding. At his 1 week checkup I informed the doctor that my son was wanting to eat almost every hour if not sooner. He had dropped alot of weight. His doctor told me to switch right away because he was not getting enough nutrients and even though I wanted to help him by breastfeeding, I was actually hurting him. It was the worst thing that I had to face, to know that I would not be able to give my son the very best there was. Someone mentioned earlier that everyone would be able to breastfeed if they didnt harm their bodies in different ways. Well news to them, I have never picked up a cigeratte or ANY kind of drug. The only thing I have been exposed to is second-hand smoke and who can help that? I still couldnt breastfeed! I am in the military so either way it went, I would have had to introduce the bottle at 5-6 weeks for when I went back to work, so I would still have to use a bottle. To the lady that was a lawyer and went back to work and was still using breast only....Kudos to you....but, there were only a few ways that that could have happened. 1. Your office is your living room. 2. you own your own law firm and was able to escape to the sitters every few hours to breastfeed. or 3. Your children just starved from 8 am til 5 pm or whenever it is you got back home. However, not everyone can do that! I would love more than anything to stay at home all day and watch my son grow before my eyes rather than hope that I dont miss something big while he is at the sitters. But I have to go back to defending our country!

  • Posted By: fraunatur @ 01/06/2008 6:37:14 PM

    How unfortunate that I look to this disucssion to learn more about the bottles and it becomes a breastfeeding battle (once again). Shame on you who choose to put down mothers who choose not to breastfeed. Truth be told, it is none of your business. Period.
    Now, on to bottles. My concern with glass and babies is breakage. I suppose that is not necessary, but would like to hear from some others about what they think.

    • Posted By: mom2-4 @ 01/06/2008 7:50:22 PM

      My youngest child is 15, so I am not really sure what products are available, and possibly they already have something like this, but maybe they will come up with some type of light weight covering or jacket for the glass bottles (even like padded quilted fabric ones that can be removed and washed- I almost think that they use to have something like that back when I used glass bottles with my kids, although I am not sure and if they did, I did not use those). Maybe they will make a safe foam type of jacket for glass bottles, that is also removed for washing (or sterilizing) the bottles and stuff. Obviously bottles could still break with these, but you really should not leave your baby alone to take a bottle anyways - it is always best to make sure that feeding time is a time that your baby is held and cuddled, I think. We already know that it is unhealthy to put your older baby to bed with a bottle, for a number of reasons. And if you use stainless steel types of sippy cups for toddlers, you would not have to worry about them toddling around with a glass bottle and it breaking and injuring them. Just an idea.

  • Posted By: eallebach @ 01/06/2008 2:23:34 PM

    I wholeheartedly agree with milkyway52. The number of women who cannot breastfeed is evolutionarily nil. The inability to breastfeed is culturally and socially induced, because we live in a culture that does not value or promote breastfeeding. In fact, in makes it diffucult to do so. This attorney could have easily taken a year's leave of absence from her job to breastfeed her child. Or better yet, we need to institue paid parental leave like many more progressive countries (Denmark is an example) do, thus facilitating a practical return to breastfeeding.

    • Posted By: SheilaS. @ 01/06/2008 7:49:29 PM

      I think you need to do more research. There are many women out there that cannot breastfeed, they do not produce milk. Not everyone does and it has nothing to do with their culture or social influence. My sister produced drops and she tried for 6 weeks and finally her premie was losing way to much weight, she would have died if it was not for a high calorie formula.

    • Posted By: indy girl @ 01/06/2008 4:48:17 PM

      I had to use bottles, but it was not my first choice . Like many women I did not produce enough milk. I did everything the doctor and nurse told me to do to try and increase my milk but it did not work. i felt like I was letting my child down. Not everyone uses bottles becasue it might make somethings easier. Unless you know the facts about everyone who bottle feeds, you should not make remarks about their choices.

    • Posted By: indy girl @ 01/06/2008 4:38:52 PM

      I am a stay at home mom and I tried to breastfeed, but my body did not produce enough milk. I did everything the Doctor and Nurse told me to do. If I wasn't breastfeeding I was pumping and it still was not enough. So I had to use bottles, and like many women it was not my first choice. Not everyone uses a bottle just because it might be easier.

    • Posted By: mami1234 @ 01/06/2008 2:49:48 PM

      I completely agree with you, our culture does no nurture breastfeeding, and sometimes makes you feel that you have to fight against it to provide to your child what is BEST, but also because this culture of "easy is better" is so imbeded in people that a lot of women who may be want it to breastfeed could' not do it because lacked the knowledge or did not know what to do the support of a experienced friend.
      Kudos to all mother's who are breastfeed their babies, this is really an act of love and sacrifice, and to the mother's who really tried and couldn't, and also to the mother's who had to sacrifice this beautiful act so they could bring the bread to their homes.

  • Posted By: Meggars13 @ 01/06/2008 7:24:14 PM

    I thought glass bottles were supposed to be bad to use with breast milk. Something about some of the good stuff that helps build up your baby's immune system sticks more to glass than to plastic. I think I remember reading something about it in "What to Expect the First Year," but it is an older edition that was passed down to me, so maybe that info is out of date. I wish this article would have mentioned something about it. As for whether glass is okay to use with formula, I have no idea.

  • Posted By: KCFlutes @ 01/06/2008 7:23:52 PM

    I'm not a mother but I work in a daycare in the infant room. I first heard of this article from a parent that was furious that we would not use glass bottles. We cannot have any glass in the classroom for safety reasons. Even jar food must be kept in a separate room and the jar must be immediately disposed of after the food has been put into a plastic bowl. It's simply not safe to have glass in a room where babies crawl on the floow. Accidents happen even to the most careful of caretakers.

  • Posted By: KCFlutes @ 01/06/2008 7:19:33 PM

    While I'm not a mother, I do work at a daycare in the infant room. One of the parents was furious that we would not use glass bottles. In our daycare, we are not allowed to have any glass in the room for safety reasons. Jar food is kept in a separate room and the jar must be immediately thrown away. In a childcare facility, it is simply not safe to have glass in a room where babies crawl on the floor, no matter how careful the caretakers are. Accidents happen.

  • Posted By: realisticone08 @ 01/06/2008 6:32:15 PM

    Isn't it funny how all the modern things are going out of the window and we are going back to the basics. Didn't all mothers use either a breast or a glass bottle at one time, and a stove not a microwave? Boy if we would only learn. Cloth diapers are better too.... I wonder what chemicals are in those.

  • Posted By: milkyway52 @ 01/06/2008 1:00:36 PM

    I have a GREAT solution! Just breastfeed your baby like nature intended and you won't have to worry about the "container"! Why isn't it promoted more? No sleasy compny makes money from breastfeeding!

    • Posted By: WorkingMom @ 01/06/2008 1:17:50 PM

      Even with exclusive breastfeeding, you need bottles to store pumped breast milk for dad or another caregiver to feed the child when mom is at work. For stay-at-home moms, a bottle-free life may be possible, but I would hope even these women might be able to let someone else feed the baby once in a while so mom can take a shower, take a nap, or just get a few hours to herself!

      Also, the Playtex nurser system that uses liners is a BPA-free alternative. The hard shell of the bottle is polycarbonate, but the surfaces that contact the milk (liner and nipple) are not. I pumped directly into the liners, attached the nipple and ring, and put the bottles into the refrigerator.

      • Posted By: kristen949907 @ 01/06/2008 5:50:38 PM

        Exactly, I pump at work so my baby can have breastmilk, this stil requires a bottle! On the weekends it is all boob, no bottle necessary, but during the week we have no other option! I am so glad to hear the nursers are bpa-free, that is what we use.

    • Posted By: babymineboutique @ 01/06/2008 4:03:01 PM

      In response to milkyway52: Even women who are able to breastfeed must at one point or another use a bottle, so it is every mother's concern what the container is made up of. Also, maybe you should consider the women who WANT to breastfeed but are unable to do so. Such as the women who cannot produce enough milk for their children or the women who have had premature babies with undeveloped stomachs that have to be put on feeding tubes and have their food intake regulated. Women cannot always choose breastfeeding, sometimes they have to make a decision to make sure their baby is getting enough food to survive and to thrive and be strong.

    • Posted By: WorkingMom @ 01/06/2008 1:31:19 PM

      to milkyway52,

      Even with exclusive breastfeeding, you still need bottles to store pumped milk for dad or another caregiver to feed the baby when mom is at work. Stay-at-home moms may have the option of a bottle-free lifestyle, but I would hope even these women would be able to depend on someone else to feed the baby once in a while so mom can take a shower, take a much-needed nap or just have an hour or so to herself!

      Plus, even the most motivated mom can find she cannot produce enough milk due to a history of breast biopsies or other surgery that disrupts the milk ducts, or due to hypoplastic breast tissue secondary to a hormone imbalance, etc. Some mothers have medical conditions or are taking prescriptions that make breastfeeding contraindicated. Beleive me, these women are heartbroken when they find they have to turn to formula, even the ones who are still able to supply at least some breast milk. Don't rub salt in the wound by making such judgments about people you do not even know.

      As far as BPA is concerned, the Playtex nurser system (with liners) is a good option. The only surfaces that contact the milk directly--liners and nipples--are BPA-free. Easy to pump directly into the liners with the right pump, too.

    • Posted By: cadence1 @ 01/06/2008 1:19:56 PM

      While breastfeeding offers the best nutrition along with many benefits for moms and babies, we still need to consider moms that may be unable to breastfeed. Consider adopted/foster care parents also. This is really a dilemma for parents in these situations..

  • Posted By: lovebabies @ 01/06/2008 5:21:14 PM

    maybe if we all breastfed our babies we would not have this problem. as far as I have done with research most women do not give breastfeeding that much of a try. milk production problems are a rare exception.

    • Posted By: kristen949907 @ 01/06/2008 5:48:04 PM

      I breastfeed and pump during the day at work, which still requires a bottle to feed him the pumped milk. Even if you breatfeed exclusively some babies still need bottles!

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