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Everyone is on the "change" bandwagon. Hillary talks about producing 35 years of change--not really. What she did was do her job. And effectively and competently. I'm sure she will be an outstanding senator in the coming years. The change that Obama is talking about comes from the inide out. Look at the grassroots campaign he has put together and the tone that he set in the trenches of the campaign. The Clintons, Bushes, Nixon, all practiced the down and dirty, ball busting politics. Be alert to the phony Mitt Romney's "change" with these tactics also. I think how the campaign is run, gives an indication of how the administration will be run
the only beating i've seen is FROM the clinton camp. WE HAVE HAD A BUSH CLINTON DYNASTY THE LAST 20 YEARS. THIS TYPE OF INCUMBENCY BREEDS COMPLACENCY AND CORRUPTION. GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS, HE TURNED DOWN A GUARANTEED THIRD TERM. IF THE CLINTONS LOVED THIS COUNTRY SO DEARLY, AND IF IT WASNT ABOUT POLITICS, THEY WOULD SEE THIS AND DO LIKEWISE. THE EXPERIENCED ESTABLISHMENT IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND WHILE PADDING THEIR OWN POCKETS.
TO THIS THERE IS NO DEBATE.
Obama has faulted Hillary for "ambition". Yet here in this site we see that he has planned on being president for most of his lifetime. The real question is why does the Frankenmedia allow Obama to beat up on Hillary without question when Obama is a hypocrite on the issue? Is the media afraid of being called racist if it even dares to ask?
Or is the mostly male media afraid that if Hillary is elected, she'll push for a law requiring the neutering of obnoxious "journalists"?
The Vietnam War energized the younger generation like those who pine for OBama now. The Deomocratic Party nominated anti-war McGovern. The engergized had already moved on and let McGovern go onto one of the worst election defeats in history. A history lesson for the Obamanuts.
As a college student I first hand witnessed the apathy surrounding political discourse particularly when the 2004 election came around. Despite voting in 2004, I still felt as if i was voting for the lesser of two evils. When i listen to Obama and I read about his policies and ideals I feel for the first time in my life that here is a candidate whom I truly want to vote for. He has shaken me out of my political apathy and his message resonates with my generation. Iowa proved that Obama can instill a sense of purpose in younger voters which no other candidate democrat or republican has done (or i think can do).
As a college student I first hand witnessed the apathy surrounding political discourse particularly when the 2004 election came around. Despite voting in 2004, I still felt as if i was voting for the lesser of two evils. When i listen to Obama and I read about his policies and ideals I feel for the first time in my life that here is a candidate whom I truly want to vote for. He has shaken me out of my political apathy and his message resonates with my generation. Iowa proved that Obama can instill a sense of purpose in younger voters which no other candidate democrat or republican has done (or i think can do).
As an european union citizen , I would be glad to see Hillary running for presidency despite the fact that Obama seems like a better candidate than Clinton considering american domestic politics (Obama's policies regarding health care issues seem promising and He is a really convincing). However, I do not think that Obama has the enough experience to be a president of the USA when it comes to international politics. My fear with the probable election of Obama is that USA will lose its central position in world economics and politics and will much focus on its internal issue. Such a drastic change might unbalance the world dynamics.
What you see here is a divided democratic party and there is no chance of a democrat winning with a divided party. A republican will win. Too many Obama supporters bashing Clinton. Hard feelings have developed.
obama supporters bashing clinton? oh yeah thats a one way street. since iowa all hillary has been doing is bashing obama. it goes both ways and you know it. and it needs to stop
Why won't Hillary address her years on the board of Wal-Mart? I want to be comfortable supporting the Dem nominee, whether it's Obama or Clinton, but this makes me uneasy.
this is coming off the net - is it true?
Interesting.......and worth checking into
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita,
Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii .
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia .
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia . Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic
school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence
was temporary at best.
In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya,
soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his
son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi schoolin Jakarta .
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad
against the western world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking
Major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined
The United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States , one of their own!!!!
ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT
use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (Their equevelancy to our Bible,
but very different beliefs)
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our Country!!!
If the Muslim Charge was true , about the Obama ticket being anti American , and Anti western society posted here on this thread , don't ya think the Clinton machine would be calling this out and making it The Issue of their campaign ?????
This poster is ignorant and/or a dishonest hater. This sleazy and misleading smear has been discredited time and again. For those who somehow have missed it, here's the link again (WITH SOURCES): http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Senator Obama is on a journey
For sure he's carring a burden
but he's on the "REVIVAL TRAIN"
Don't miss this ticket
Revival time is here again
The tide is high but we're moving on
Americans; lets ride, lets ride
Revival time is here again.
Senator Obama is on a journey; His mode of transportation is the "REVIVAL TRAIN" , be sure to get a ticket for this train;
Americans lets ride, lets ride; the tide is high but we're moving on; it's revival time again.
Hopefully Obama will speak to these when the camera is on him, he has not had a very long career, and then expects to lead this country, hopefully he can cease more than just his devoted fans. So far I have heard him only speak of winning. Looks a little ego-maniacal. Like he likes to hear himself talk. God help us, We have suffered through 7 years of George W> So 4truth can u counter my personal opinion with your truthful sounding voice and counter me again?
Ignorance is not to get to the heart and mind of the matter.
I agree... and there are many resources available to assuage most doubts and fears....
We are all fools, sitting ducks like the swinging duckies that hang above the intersections of LA. Subject to the non disclosure and evasion of charasmatic racial games. Because Obama seems to be the great black hope we cannot ask hard questions, or demand more than an endorsement from OPRAH!!!
Hard questions have been asked and answered.... and will continue to be answered. If you want more information, each candidate has their own website which explicitly states their views on a range of issues. If you are interested in finding out more about Barack Obama, go to www.barackobama.com.
Posted By: oc_beachdude @ 01/08/2008 12:20:03 AM: Would you want this man leading our Country!!!
In a word, YES... leaving the word to simpleminded fearmongering xenophobes such as that author is the true stuff of Armegeddonist nightmares.
This old chestnut has been the darling "discovery" of the conservatives ever since Obama started his campaign for President, and it's still as venal as it was then. The truth of the matter is that Obama's Muslim "roots" seem to consist of one year while he was still achild. I've got a friend who was in successive years during high school a Budhist,, a Catholic, a Baptist, and an agnostic. Now he's a Methodist. Sio what?
Laughable is the Obama Koran claim. The actual member of Congress who used the Korean was Keith Ellison from that hotbed of political radicalism, the 5th Congressional District of Minenesota.. It seems that someone got the wacky idea that if you're going to swear on a holy book to do right, why not use one you actually believe in and live by?
On the other hand, it must be nice to be a conservative and never have to think again or adhere to the facts. It's worked the last seven years... why stop now?
So is Obama a Muslim, if a moderate? Wow, think Mit Romney had it hard, or even Kennedy, good luck. READ the headlines, HOW THE DEMOCRATS LOST A SURE THING!!!! Maybe I am a REPUBLICAN afterall I am tired backing the loosing side. This will be hillarious, in a time where you need a Hollywood producer to get elected, I like Obama can tell you how this will play out --- Huckabee will be our next President, says Iowa.
Huckabee gee how bad can it get. He wants a flat tax. Get rid of Social Security, medicare? You going to take care of your mama and daddy. I DOUBT it.
hey cowen, how many candidates are now jumping on the change bandwagon? haha all of em. and you re right anybodys speech would have a lack of content if you only took a soundbyte out of them. you must really confuse yourself with all those question marks. and sickof a fifth grader could have ran a balanced budget in the late 90's. the economy was unstoppable. and there wasnt a 9/11 during bill's days. that would put out the need for a war. but oh yeah he could have caught Osama, but didnt. thanks bill.
Obama's typical speech messages:
"???.stand by me and we will change the country and the world???".
" The country needs a real change???."
"???folks, change is what this country need right now!",
"???we don't want the same people in the white house, we need change"
"???I am an agent for change, help me implement change???"
"???this is a revolution for change!"
"???..if you vote for me you will be voting for change"
Notice the lack of content. Notice the repetitive term "change". Notice the lack of willingness to point to any realistic records for change. Notice the lack of details to the changes that he is proposing. Most importantly, notice how broad the definition of 'change' is and how VAGUE it is. A vote for Obama is a vote to confirm that you this country can not be bother with specifics. A vote for Obama is a vote to say???"don't ask don't tell"???..A vote for Obama is a vote for ignorance. The country is at a cross road, we need a Woman who has defy the odds to get where she is now???.a woman who has done the tough battles???.a woman who knows what it really takes to make change happen and know too well that talk is cheap.
Plus he always says "I'm fired up" to the crowd.
Whether Senator Obama is being a dreamer or not, I am still hopeful for this country.
So am I hopeful. The 8 years Bill Clinton were in were economically good and we were not in these wars. I am hopeful we will see a Clinton in the white house and have economic prosperity again and bring the boys and girls home.
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